=== asac_ is now known as asac [00:42] Hy does anyone know how to enable wireless on a Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, 1.1.0 ?? [00:47] VilasBoas: If you are using Ubuntu, it should just work. What version of Ubuntu are you using? [00:48] I?m using ubuntu 9.04 i386 [00:48] this is the resolte of my lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/254282/ [04:19] how do i enable timestamps in empathy? [04:20] * ccheney wonders if there is no way as empathy is a real gnome app unlike pidgin [04:22] * ccheney thinks he will probably be running kubuntu by 10.04 if the continued removal of features keeps up :-\ [04:24] ccheney: ;-) [04:24] ccheney: Speaking of which, are we getting openoffice-kde back anytime soon? [04:25] ScottK: yea maybe tomorrow (i hope) [04:25] ScottK: its in OOo 3.1.1 [04:25] Cool. [04:26] i think i have a working build done now, ran into a few issues on friday which seem to be fixed now [04:28] well other than empathy being useless so far karmic is looking nice, i had to switch back to jaunty for a while, just upgraded again today [04:29] for me accurate timestamps (per message) are almost as important as the messages themselves, so with empathy having what appears to only be a timestamp for when the window opens it doesn't look particularly useful [04:32] ccheney: I have to the second timestamps in Quassel (currently the default Kubuntu IRC client). [04:34] ScottK: yea, and pidgin does that also :-) [04:34] * ccheney has a current kubuntu iso, will have to test it out in a vm [05:01] ccheney: The timestamp could be theme specific. [05:05] TheMuso: hmm, having timestamps in empathy is a 'theme' option? [05:05] ccheney: Empathy supports different chat themes. [05:05] SO a theme may or may not have timestamps, so far as I understand things. [05:06] but it seems themes don't yet have preferences. [05:07] The classic theme does have timestamps. [05:07] although they are displayed relative to each other. [05:08] So the date is only displayed if you continue a conversation on a different day, otherwise the time gets shown, and only if the minute has changed. [05:09] I think it only shows timestamps if there have been a few minutes since the last message. [05:09] But it's a bit hard to tell. [05:09] wait what? relative? like it says "5 seconds later..."? [05:10] Not for me. [05:12] I'm using the classic theme for jaunty's empathy [05:12] at least with jabber, I get a centred grey "- 15:40 -" or similar before each "burst" of chatter [05:13] so if both people say something soon after the other it doesn't put in a new timestamp, or something like that [05:13] AFAIK, I've never configured anything to do with it [05:14] That's the default. [05:14] Which is complainable about. [05:14] I'd like at least an easy option. [05:19] yeah, I was just trying to clarify as people seemed to be misunderstanding each other a bit [05:25] ive never used it (well, i tried once, noticed a lack of a feature i like,and stopped) so i didnt understand "displayed relative" [06:04] hmm i backed up my evolution mail before reinstalling but evolution refuses to restore from it claiming its bad archive, i can untar it just fine though [06:04] i guess i am really glad that i use imap or it would be a big pita to fix [06:05] so its only a small pita to fix instead [06:05] * ccheney thinks maybe this is evolution's way of telling me to stop using it and switch to mutt or thunderbird === nellery_ is now known as nellery [06:57] c [06:58] d === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:01] good morning [08:02] hello :) [08:33] mvo: if you want to give that xapian-core patch some testing in karmic, it'd be good to do it soon as feature freeze isn't far off... [08:33] or we can decide it's fine, or that we don't want to risk it [08:35] it's been on trunk for ages, but needed quite a few adjustments to apply === Lutin_ is now known as Lutin [09:01] ojwb: I add it now and upload a new version. sorry for the delay, I was on a vacation for some days === Sp4rKy is now known as Guest24442 === Guest24442 is now known as Sp4rKy [09:05] * ojwb guessed! [09:13] mvo: hi [09:13] hi lifeless [09:13] https://edge.launchpad.net/conflictchecker is now team owned, and you're an admin [09:14] cool, thanks lifeless [09:15] n [09:15] np [09:15] shoulda done that a while back [09:18] * mvo nods === geser_ is now known as geser === ember_ is now known as ember === freeflyi2g is now known as freeflying === freeflyi2g is now known as freeflying [12:11] mvo: around? [12:14] siretart`: yes, but I have not yet had a chance to read your mail yet (just returned from vac) [12:14] mvo: ah, in that case, welcome back! :-) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:15] urk! nautilus has gone crazy, creating and destroying hundreds of copies. anyone else having this problem? [13:15] copies of what ? [13:15] * ogra has no issues here [13:16] ogra, copies of nautilus. [13:16] fun, seb is on vacation for two weeks :P [13:16] * ogra didnt upgrade today yet ... [13:16] let me try [13:17] ogra, I think I'll just run a dist-upgrade and then restart. [13:18] i hope you mean you run update-manager instead of doing a dist-upgrade ;) [13:19] ogra, sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade [13:19] use update-manager instead [13:20] it has hooks for special cases you might need under some circumstances ... to clean up old cruft etc [13:20] ogra, within a development release ? never! it always messes up. [13:21] Then file a bug [13:21] right [13:21] nag, nag, nag [13:22] Yup [13:25] hah! whatever gnome library got updated killed the nautilus D-bus wars [13:25] :) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:00] Requested 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.17.3' but version of GTK+ is 2.16.1 [14:00] Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you [14:00] installed software in a non-standard prefix. [14:00] Alternatively, you may set the environment variables CHEESE_CFLAGS [14:00] and CHEESE_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. [14:00] See the pkg-config man page for more details. [14:00] i get the above error. ubuntu 9.04 has only got libgtk2.0-dev 2.16.x but this program cheese i'm trying to compile say's it needs 2.17.3 [14:00] any ideas? [14:06] idlogin: try reinstalling or check up apt.alturl.com if u are an advanced user [14:06] props to whoever's on the queue [14:06] * Laney fist bumps you [14:08] terrorist fist jab! :o [14:18] zero component mismatches? You can't be serious! :-) [14:28] SeaOrifice: Thanks. trying to reinstall still give libgtk2.0-dev-2.16.1 which is what i get when i search apt.alturl.com [14:28] i need something => 2.17.3. is there a way i can build that myself from sources? === v is now known as vorian === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === robbiew_away is now known as robbiew === saispo_ is now known as saispo [15:38] james_w: slangasek: could you promote mysql-5.1 to main? [15:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/408333 [15:38] Ubuntu bug 408333 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "MIR for mysql 5.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] [15:57] mathiaz: what will depend on it? [15:58] james_w: you mean which new packages would be pulled in from universe? [15:58] james_w: AFAICT none [15:58] no [15:58] what will keep it in main? [15:58] seeds? [15:58] james_w: yes - mysql-5.1 builds mysql-server now [15:59] james_w: which is seeded IIRC [15:59] ok [15:59] james_w: mysql-server is in the server-ship seed [16:03] mathiaz: do you need things demoted at the same time? [16:03] james_w: mysql-dfsg-5.0 [16:04] and all the -5.0 bits? [16:08] james_w: yes [16:08] james_w: libmysqclient15off is probably still required by some packages in main [16:08] ok [16:08] james_w: they'll have to be rebuild against 5.1 [16:09] you want all binaries from the 5.1 package promoted? [16:11] james_w: all except libmysqld-{dev,pic} [16:11] james_w: all the other packages were already part of main for mysql-5.0 [16:12] james_w: the libmysqld-* are new packages that weren't in 5.0 [16:12] mathiaz: done [16:13] james_w: \o/ - thank you! [16:13] please check in an hour or so that things look as you expect [16:13] ogra: ping [16:13] I demoted 15off as well, so transitioning those packages would be appreciated [16:14] can somebody moderate my u-d-a@ mail? [16:14] kirkland, hey [16:14] ogra: hiya, i didn't see any uploads to qemu-kvm, just checking [16:14] kirkland, i did about 5 yesterday :) [16:14] ogra: oh :-) /me checks again [16:15] sorry that it took so long but we had some disasters on armel [16:15] ogra: okey doke, no worries [16:15] should be all fine now [16:15] ogra: cool, i'll play with those [16:15] ogra: sorry, my comment was about 24 hours stale :-) [16:15] ogra: i checked yesterday morning, and hadn't seen anything [16:16] i'm doing a full copy of the source tree now at buuld time for the static stuff that will make sure we'll never interfere [16:16] *build [16:16] ogra: cool [16:17] * ogra is just researching why there are so many qemus fixes in the suse src rpm that never went upstream [16:18] especially one that makes mono work on arm ... tsk [16:59] can somebody moderate my u-d-a@ mail? === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [17:30] bryce: in view of bug 363238, would it be possible to update xorg-xserver-video-ati past http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=f564460e94c9d0f1cf3ff4b8535481b2b8b4e9c1 ? [17:30] Launchpad bug 363238 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "very poor Xorg performance on various older graphics HW - XAA solves this" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363238 [17:30] or cherry-pick? [17:30] The current Jaunty driver still has this fairly severe problem. [17:31] Laibsch, yep, is that the commit needed? [17:31] I think so [17:31] Or I should say, I'm quite certain [17:32] It's Rolf [17:32] I've been testing and packaging bugfixed packages [17:32] I think it's fairly well-tested [17:33] patch looks sane, yeah think we can include it [17:33] hmm new mesa in xorg-edgers eh.. [17:34] Laibsch, I'm hesitant to move our git snapshot up newer since then it moves us into kms territory, which is still pretty buggy [17:34] but looks like this can be merged independent of that [17:37] cool [17:46] Keybuk: thoughts on bug 540575? [17:46] Error: Launchpad bug 540575 could not be found === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara === br_away is now known as bratsche [18:13] Keybuk, are you planning on pulling in udev 146 soonish? [18:14] lamont: FYI - Keybuk is on holiday. [18:14] superm1: ^ [18:17] Then i guess that's a "no" :) [18:17] superm1: he's lurking around though...so things may "magically" happen ;) === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [18:40] ScottK, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/411849 [18:40] Ubuntu bug 411849 in hardy-backports "Please backport security fix for USN-812-1 in subversion 1.5" [Undecided,New] [18:53] Caesar: ping i have a couple of puppet questions for you [18:57] hi there. the NBS list was not updated for some days now, is this a known issue? (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/) === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ [19:19] Ampelbein: heh, how did I miss that earlier? [19:20] james_w: how would i know? ;-) so I guess it was not a known issue... [19:21] not to me at least === mterry_ is now known as mterry === brianchidester_ is now known as brianchidester [19:44] Ampelbein: should be updating now, yay for silent failures. Thanks for noticing [19:46] kirkland: hey, is what I am seeing in this build from my ppa: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30425319/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.libvirt_0.7.0-1ubuntu2~jdstrand1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz the same as bug #399459? [19:46] Launchpad bug 399459 in open-iscsi "open-iscsi in hardy fails to install in pbuilder as a build-dependency" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399459 [19:47] kirkland: actually, I can answer that... it is not [19:47] kirkland: however, is what I am seeing in my ppa known? [19:49] jdstrand: i've never seen that [19:49] jdstrand: actually, I really think open-iscsi should have a -dev package [19:49] jdstrand: that doesn't require starting that (crappy) init script [19:50] jdstrand: slangasek and co. have worked on iscsi lately, i wonder if they've added something that depends on /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d perhaps? [19:50] not I [19:50] slangasek: hey, thanks. [19:53] mathiaz: have you seen this? ^ [19:54] jdstrand: yes [19:55] jdstrand: /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d is not created in the build chroots IIRC [19:55] jdstrand: which is the reason why open-iscsi is failing to install [19:56] mathiaz: yes, that was my conclusion as well. is there a bug? is it being worked on on? what normally creates /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d ? [19:58] mathiaz: rsyslog removes things from there in its postrm it looks like [19:58] mathiaz: so a syslog to rsyslog transition issue, possibly? [19:58] jdstrand: may be [19:59] jdstrand: openiscsi would only fail if /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d/ the directory doesn't exist [19:59] mathiaz: yes [20:00] (which is what happens) [20:00] jdstrand: and the issue is only in chroot [20:00] mathiaz: are you contending it is a build issue? [20:00] buildd [20:00] jdstrand: not only a buildd - pbuilder has the same problem [20:01] jdstrand: I'd say it's an issue if you try to install open-iscsi in a chroot [20:01] mathiaz: so this causes an FTBFS for anything that depends on open-iscsi [20:01] jdstrand: yop - libvirt being such an example [20:05] jdstrand, hey there [20:05] I am late to the discussion, and missed the beginning of it [20:05] jdstrand, basically, a package (libvirtd, I think) have a build-dep on open-iscsi [20:06] EtienneG: yes [20:06] jdstrand, building the karmic package of that package on jaunty fail [20:06] EtienneG, mathiaz: I am simply going to adjust the open-iscsi initscript to create the symlink only if /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d exists [20:07] jdstrand, basically, open-iscsi is a build-dep because the Makefile of that package check for the presence of the iscsiadm executable [20:07] EtienneG: I could just do '|| true' as well [20:07] jdstrand, hold on, phone rings [20:07] * jdstrand opts for '|| true' [20:07] jdstrand: right - that seems the best workaround [20:08] mathiaz, jdstrand: if you ask, the Makefile that check for the presence of a specific executable without ever using it in the build is wrong [20:08] well, the initscript is wrong too [20:08] so technically, you could also remove the build-dep on open-iscsi by patching the Makefile [20:08] jdstrand, they are both wrong [20:08] * jdstrand nods [20:09] anyway, just saying [20:09] jdstrand, my recollection of that bug is fuzzy, but it struck me as being really hare-brained to check for the iscsiadm (if failing if it was not there) yet never to use it in the build [20:11] * jdstrand nods [20:11] ugh, I make way too many typos [20:11] anyway, I think there should not be a build-dep on open-iscsi in that case === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew === ssam_ is now known as ssam [20:45] james_w: sorry to bother again, but the nbs list seems not to update. or does it just take long time? [20:54] Ampelbein: the NBS list is only updated 4x a day IIRC, and it operates on the archive so it takes at least an hour before any changes to the archive are visible in the input to that script [20:55] Ampelbein: it's still running [20:55] almost done by the look of it [20:58] Ampelbein: there you go [20:59] james_w, slangasek: thank you very much. [21:02] hi, while trying UNR with qemu I seem to go very very slow. Anyone know how to fix this? [21:04] niktaris: Simple. Don't use QEmu :) [21:05] soren, :_D and use what? [21:11] jdstrand, hey, could you watch evince bugs for a while? there is new breakages due to your changes [21:12] seb128: I am a bug subscriber, but I haven't seen anything lately... :/ [21:12] seb128: but I'll look at them [21:13] jdstrand, sort by most recents, the newer ones are due to your changes [21:13] thanks [21:14] NCommander: I'm attempting to be on vacation this week. [21:14] any core-dev available to review/sponsor 415024 [21:14] niktaris: kvm, I suppose. [21:14] (damn enter-key on damn netbook) any core-dev available to review/sponsor bug 415024 please? [21:14] Launchpad bug 415024 in libtheora "Packages linking libtheora will FTBFS due to reference of non-existing libogg.la" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415024 [21:16] Ampelbein: on it [21:18] james_w: an example of a FTBFS is the sparc and armel build of linphone: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30389979/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-sparc.linphone_3.1.2-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [21:20] anyone here working on networkmanager ? I'm trying to figure out why some usb gsm modem is not working on karmic anymore -- networkmanager stops at Stage4 (IPv4 config) and never makes it to Stage5 (IPv4 config commit) .. related bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/413989 [21:20] Ubuntu bug 413989 in ubuntu "karmic: huawei gsm modem not working anymore" [Undecided,New] [21:37] james_w: thanks for sponsoring [21:37] np [21:53] james_w: it seems that the apr-util package branch is not up-to-date with version that is in the archive [21:54] mathiaz: that's one that failed [21:54] it's a bit of a stupid error on my part, but quite a bit of code to fix it [21:55] or I could just upgrade the branches. It doesn't fix the general issue, but would unblock you [21:56] james_w: that's ok - I'm not block by thius [21:57] ok [21:57] I'll work out how to fix it generally :-) [22:26] jjohansen: hi! is there a way to specify in a profile to transition to another profile if it exists, otherwise go unconfined? eg, I would like firefox to Px evince if the profile exists. otherwise Ux it. [22:32] jdstrand: sigh, not at the moment. [22:33] jjohansen: doe that mean it is planned? [22:33] does [22:33] (not for karmic, but long term) [22:33] jdstrand: jdstrand: internally it is allowed, but there are limits on the current interface [22:34] jjohansen: ok [22:34] jjohansen: thanks [22:34] jdstrand: basically, the current bit layout doesn't allow, if I can come up with a way to stuff it in there are remain compatible it would take 5 min to add [22:35] jjohansen: it isn't a big deal atm-- the firefox profile will be opt-in for the foreseeable future [22:47] jdstrand: hold on it may actually be there by a happy quirk === maco is now known as MsMaco