[00:06] <suit> harjot: command not found
[00:09] <BluesKaj> Paddy_NI, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[00:10] <Paddy_NI> BluesKaj: having a look
[00:10] <Paddy_NI> cheers
[00:11] <Paddy_NI> BluesKaj: Oh well that is a handy link but its not exactly what I am after.. I pretty much want to keep gnome as well
[00:11] <Paddy_NI> :)
[00:12] <BluesKaj> ahh, well, that's a horse of a colour I'm not familiar with :)
[00:15] <suit> harjot_: are you there? :)
[00:21] <u4293181> !Rules
[00:24] <harjot_> suit: yes now iam
[00:25] <harjot_> suit: still need help?
[00:35] <pedronveloso> hi! Is there some repositorie with KDE 4.3 for 8.04 kubuntu ??
[00:36] <EagleScreen> pedronveloso: negative
[00:37] <brian_> can someone in here give me a hand im getting stuck on step 4 http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/integrate-google-gadgets-with-plasma-in.html
[00:37] <brian_> when i
[00:37] <brian_> cd kdebase-workspace-4.2.1a
[00:37] <pedronveloso> EagleScreen, humm, too bad :\. Is it easy to compile ?
[00:37] <brian_> cmake .
[00:37] <brian_> it says not found
[00:37] <FloodBotK2> brian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <brian_> sorry mistake
[00:37] <EagleScreen> it is not easy pedronveloso
[00:38] <brian_> but ya i do everything the list says but i dont know what im doing wrong
[00:39] <pedronveloso> EagleScreen, thanks
[00:46] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one?
[00:47] <jeremy___> i have kubuntu 9.04
[00:49] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one?
[00:49] <jeremy___> i have kubuntu 9.04
[00:49] <jeremy___> ????
[00:49] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one using amarok 1.4
[00:50] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one using amarok 1.4
[00:51] <jeremy___> damn anybody in this bitch talk i need sum help isnt this room 4 that
[00:51] <mase_work> jeremy___: you need to be patient
[00:52] <mase_work> not everyone is awake
[00:52] <mase_work> its not instahelp
[00:52] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one using amarok 1.4
[00:52] <mase_work> if i knew i would have answered
[00:52] <MsMaco> i dont think new amarok does mp3 players :-/
[00:52] <MsMaco> though 1.4 is still "old" amarok, right?
[00:52] <mase_work> you have stated your question, you can either wait around for someone who knoews, or you can write to the forums or mailing lists
[00:52] <jeremy___> i got the old one amarok 1.4
[00:53] <MsMaco> by the way, no swearing!
[00:53] <jeremy___> it is a free country
[00:53] <MsMaco> old amarok has a devices tab
[00:53] <mase_work> its not a free channel
[00:53] <MsMaco> that doesnt change that this channel hs rules
[00:53] <jeremy___> i know and it asks for a mount point?
[00:53] <MsMaco> !guidelines
[00:53] <MsMaco> jeremy___: what sort of player is it?
[00:53] <MsMaco> ive only used amarok with ipods
[00:54] <jeremy___> just a 512 usb stick player
[00:54] <MsMaco> and it doesnt show up in your device applet on the panel as a usb stick when you plug in?
[00:54] <jeremy___> it asks for a mount point?
[00:56] <jeremy___> ?
[00:57] <jeremy___> how do  i get my mp3 player to mount or connect it a usb one using amarok 1.4
[00:58] <MsMaco> amarok asks for a mount point...yeah, got it
[00:59] <MsMaco> ok fine
[00:59] <mase_work> what a tool.
[00:59] <MsMaco> couldve answered the question about whether the mounter was detecting it or not...
[00:59] <MsMaco> oh hmm need to test something
[00:59] <MsMaco> awesome
[01:00] <MsMaco> changing nicks did not remove my op-abilities
[01:08] <Hijodelaluna76> hi
[01:09] <Hijodelaluna76> bin neu hier
[01:11] <brian_> sudo cp ../../../lib/plasma_package_ggl.so /usr/lib/kde4/
[01:24] <sudok> hallo?
[01:25] <yuri_> i have ubuntu-restricted extras installed but amarok still says i need packages. which packages does it want?
[01:26] <TheNumber> yuri_: try in a terminal : apt-get install amarok
[01:27] <yuri_> TheNumber: everything istalled
[01:27] <TheNumber> and even amarok it self ?
[01:28] <yuri_> yes
[01:29] <TheNumber> humm and it refuses to play any sousnd ?
[01:30] <yuri_> it plays some things but not others. im trying to use one of the plugins to stream audio
[01:44] <khaije|amalt> image manager?
[02:05] <kavurt> is there a gui tool in Kubuntu  to disable touchpad tapping?
[02:12] <ubuntu> how do i find my kernel version
[02:13] <mase_work> ubuntu:  uname -a
[02:13] <bazhang> ubuntu, uname -a in the konsole
[02:13] <Pici> ubuntu: uname -r
[02:13] <Pici> well, -a will show it too
[02:13] <ubuntu> ty
[02:15] <shicmap> hey I wonder how I can fix this problem. I cannot listen to the audio when I am watching on youtube. FlashPlayer is installed, and it's up-to-date.
[02:15] <shicmap> any thoughts?
[02:22] <PingJocky> anyone know where i can find some help on kubuntu netbook remix?
[02:23] <nositelicense> ask...
[02:24] <kavurt> PingJocky: what kind of help do you need?
[02:24] <PingJocky> how do i add programs to the applications menus, mine was almost blank on install
[02:28] <PingJocky> http://imagebin.ca/view/FWT1aLy.html
[02:28] <PingJocky> if i click on any of the submenus they are empty
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> PingJocky- you should be able to right-click the K Menu button and go to the Menu Editor
[02:34] <PingJocky> There is no K Menu unless i add it... I will add it and try that
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I don't recognize that plasmoid
[02:37] <EagleScreen> is it Kubuntu netbook, PingJocky?
[02:37] <PingJocky> EagleScreen: yes sir... 9.10 Alpha 4
[02:38] <EagleScreen> 9.10 Alpha is in agressive development, it is normal to have bugs
[02:38] <PingJocky> i  didnt know if it was a bug or user error...
[02:39] <PingJocky> im leaning twards user error :P
[02:39] <EagleScreen> PingJocky: aks also in #ubuntu+1 and visit http://launchpad.net and report any bug if you have time
[02:39] <PingJocky> is there a #kubuntu+1?
[02:39] <bazhang> PingJocky, #ubuntu+1 for all Karmic discussion
[02:40] <PingJocky> ok thanks
[03:21] <brian_> i need some help  when i get to number 4 i get a error  any advise http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/integrate-google-gadgets-with-plasma-in.html
[03:26] <Rofl> srry but whats the kubuntu sound channel?
[03:29] <Rofl> hello????
[03:37] <chatubuntu> Hi
[03:55] <webbb> anyone know why i would get this error when i try to download google gadgets A Fatal Error Occurred
[03:55] <webbb> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[04:06] <colton_> how do you "register with services" to use a channel?
[04:24] <rmrfslash> I just upgraded to KDE 4.3 and now all my window borders are missing and desktop effects are not working at all.... anyone else experience this or know what I should do?
[04:24] <rmrfslash> this totally stinks
[04:25] <rmrfslash> I installed also ATI Catalyst 9.8
[04:26] <mayday_jay> try sudo kwin --replace   ... not a kde user....it's a longshot...
[04:27] <webbb> does anoyone know how to speed up the kmennu when i open it i get major lag
[04:57] <khaije|amalt> it seems like large amounts of load or even umounting both cause my entire machine to seize (kubuntu jaunty 64)
[04:58] <khaije|amalt> what should i be looking at to diagnose this? (i said seize, i should have said reboot!)
[04:58] <khaije|amalt> oh sorry i'll try this again
[05:00] <khaije|amalt> it seems that when using my external usb-connected harddisk if there is a large amount of load or even if i stop using it and umount- either of these things cause my entire machine to instantly reboot (kubuntu jaunty 64)
[05:21] <ex0> yo
[05:23] <ex0> neone here
[05:23] <ex0> lolz
[05:28] <graham_> test
[05:29] <graham_> Hi all, anyone know how to configure kubuntu for nvidia sli - I've been trying for days and haven't got anywhere.
[05:31] <djayhogan> sorry graham_ , wish I could help you
[05:32] <graham_> Actually, the sli part shouldn't be that hard, its getting the xorg.conf setup for the correct card in the first place - seems a nightmare.
[05:33] <graham_> I
[05:33] <graham_> I've got the sli command noted down. but ca
[05:34] <graham_> ...but for some reason am unable to get the sorg.conf setup with all the commands for the relevant card.
[05:35] <graham_> I've been battling with this ubuntu for several days now. first it was disk drives. finally got that sorted - now can't sort graphics. what a pain in the arse.
[05:35] <graham_> ...but determined to see it through, just now ran out of idea's. Being a newb with this os doesn't help.
[05:37] <graham_> Ah well dj, thanks for reply all the same.
[05:38] <djayhogan> yeah, i know the feeling; doesn't help that the channel's pretty much dead at the moment, either. Don't feel too bad; after 3 years I still have to switch video cards to get to the console
[05:39] <graham_> it seems that whatever I do, the xorg.conf doesn't get populated with the relevant info.  If it did, I could then enter the command to add in the sli bit. at boot it keeps telling me problems with display.
[05:39] <graham_> ...and the only way to resolve it is with a complete new install.
[05:40] <graham_> probably installed this now about 30 times. lol, kinda wearing me out now. I may be resilient - but getting tired with it.
[05:41] <graham_> Damn shame, cuz its much better than window. and I dislike MS anyway.
[05:42] <djayhogan> thinking, you might try your question in #ubuntu; they usually have a good handle on xorg setup problems
[05:44] <graham_> ok, I'll have a look. I just left this at its default channel. thanks for taking the time to reply. take it easy.
[05:44] <djayhogan> good luck
[06:33] <zeltak_> morning guys :) i need some help with an apt-get upgrade error http://pastebin.ca/1533410
[06:33] <zeltak_> anyone care to point me in the right direction?
[06:52] <noa_> How can  see the parts made in Python?
[06:53] <noa_> I noticed that the session manager has a python running.
[06:53] <noa_> from gPS
[06:57] <zeltak_> noa_: were you reffering to my question/
[07:06] <theadmin> What is "Shiretoko web browser", why did it install on my system, and what is it's package name? I want to remove that
[07:06] <theadmin> It installed along with firefox
[07:07] <dracnoc> Shrietoko was/is and early FF3.5beta.
[07:07] <theadmin> And how do i remove that? I need firefox only
[07:08] <dracnoc> i seem to recall it being listed as firefox-3.5 in the repos.
[07:08] <theadmin> Oh.
[07:09] <khaije|amalt> shiretoko is the release name, identified in the repo as firefox-3.5, the default firefox packaged still points to v3
[07:09] <dracnoc> there ya go
[07:10] <theadmin> alright, i removed that. Also, is it safe to remove konqueror? I recall it has something to do with Dolphin...
[07:11] <dracnoc> not entirely sure what would happen there.
[07:12] <dracnoc> just tried to remove it, there's no mention of it altering Dolphin, so you might get away with it.
[07:13] <theadmin> Okay, guess i can leave it. Something bad could happen. As far as i remember, both dolphin and konqueror are parts of an application "kfmclient"
[07:16] <dracnoc> no. kfmclient does it's own thing. kfmclient can call up both konqueror and dolphin to get things done. You may wish to keep it.
[07:16] <dracnoc> (It's part of the KDE base)
[07:17] <theadmin> But removing a part of it won't remove it itself?
[07:17] <dracnoc> do you mean removing kfmclient removes kdebase?
[07:18] <theadmin> No, i mean, does removing Konqueror remove kfmclient
[07:18] <dracnoc> no, not at all
[07:20] <dracnoc> I'm gonna have to go in a minute. Anything else I can help with?
[07:21] <theadmin> No, thank you
[07:22] <dracnoc> ok, have fun with that lot. time to go.
[07:30] <apparle> hi guys
[07:31] <kavurt> !hi
[07:55] <chaos_>  
[07:56] <apparle> When I open Vista......my screen seems pretty big and 6 winddows are there in my taskbar but in kubuntu why is the Desktop so cluttered........the screen seems as if its too small
[08:00] <kavurt> apparle: is it a resolution problem?
[08:01] <apparle> no I have 1280x1024
[08:01] <kavurt> is it the same in vista?
[08:08] <apparle> kavurt: yes
[08:08] <solaries> how can I find out to which package the file psvn.el belongs?
[08:08] <solaries> There was a neat aptitude command for that...
[08:12] <solaries> found it: dpkg -S psvn.el
[08:46] <dirtbag666> Hey there. Still have a problem: KDM login will just redirect me to same the login form again. Even reinstalling did not solve it! Any ideas?
[09:01] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[09:12] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[09:13] <CedricWoSto> Good morning everyone ! have a nice day :D
[09:58] <Havoc][> is there any workarround to get the twitter microblogging plasmoid working (and show friends)?
[10:54] <Guest51960> bad .desktop file: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/pauker.desktop: ParsingError in file '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/pauker.desktop', [Desktop Entry]-Header missing
[11:00] <Guest51960> should be allready fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu/+bug/385248
[11:02] <arash> Hi all , is there any search file capability in Kubuntu 9.04 ? to search all files in partition for a given parameter?
[11:12] <kavurt> arash: do you want to find a file or what?
[11:12] <arash> yes a file or direcotory with partial name i know
[11:14] <kavurt> you can use find command in a terminal
[11:14] <kavurt> do you want gui or cli?
[11:16] <arash> if gui is better since i am new and dont know much bash
[11:19] <kavurt> arash: I don't know about gui search, but if you want to try cli, open a terminal and type this:
[11:20] <arash> ok ...type what? I am looking for a file with something like gr_signal*
[11:20] <kavurt> find /path/to/directory *partofthename*
[11:20] <kavurt> find /path/to/directory gr_signal*
[11:21] <arash> what is path/to/directory ?
[11:22] <kavurt> where do you want to search it?
[11:22] <arash> the whole partition.I have no idea where it might be
[11:22] <kavurt> is the partition mounted?
[11:22] <kavurt> is it root partition?
[11:23] <arash> yes
[11:23] <kavurt> if you want to searh in whole computer type
[11:23] <kavurt> find / filename
[11:24] <arash> thanks so much
[11:26] <arash> does wildcards like * work as well as DOS here ?
[11:30] <skyhunter> Hey! Is there an alternativ for Ark?
[11:31] <skyhunter> I cant compress files properly...
[11:33] <apparle> skyhunter: you can try 7zip...but it is command line
[11:34] <makdaknife> skyhunter: try using the command line... open up konsole,  tar -cjvf mytarball.bz2 /path/to/dir
[11:34] <skyhunter> Hmm, or is there a way to compress one file with NO compression rate to a .zip in Ark?
[11:34] <apparle> I don't know
[11:34] <apparle> PeaZip is also a good archive manager
[11:35] <skyhunter> Okay
[11:35] <skyhunter> PeaZip? Im tryin it :)
[11:36] <apparle> !info peazip
[11:37] <skyhunter> Downloadin from their homepage atm
[11:41] <skyhunter> Its really laggy
[11:41] <skyhunter> but irs working
[11:41] <skyhunter> *its
[11:44] <apparle> skyhunter: good.......................or another option is trying to GUI of 7-zip.org in wine.
[11:45] <skyhunter> ok
[11:46] <apparle> skyhunter: I always use 7-zip in windows and it is awesome......it works fine is wine
[11:46] <skyhunter> ok then i use that
[11:46] <skyhunter> this laggy thing is annoying
[11:47] <QuantumKaos> can anyone help with this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/255039/ my removable HD is not working
[11:51] <QuantumKaos> it gives me a cyclic redundancy error
[11:51] <QuantumKaos> anyhelp?
[11:55] <C0m_BOY> [15:51] <COm_BOY> I am using Hardy Heron Kubuntu .. however ... the items in the taskbar near the time have disappeared
[11:55] <C0m_BOY> [15:51] <COm_BOY> like i open KMESS and then close it.. it should minimise and go to the taskbar area near the TIME.. but unfortunattely nothing is going over there
[12:03] <cuznt> pls what is the apt-get for synaptic package manager
[12:04] <QuantumKaos> having trouble with opening my removable HD linux gives this output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/255039/ by following it i tried to chkdsk from windows and the ms-dos prompt says "cyclic redundancy error", this HD is full of important stuff, how do i avoid losing it? thanks
[12:04] <cuznt> !synaptic package manager
[12:11] <apparle_> Guys, college server blocks the word proxy so I am unable to download this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/libproxy0_0.2.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[12:11] <apparle_> Plz download it, rename and upload it on some fileserver
[12:11] <apparle_> plz
[12:13] <cuznt> !synaptic
[12:15] <apparle> cuznt: what is your problem
[12:17] <apparle> College blocks word like 'proxy' so I can't download this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libproxy/libproxy0_0.2.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[12:17] <apparle> Plz download it (only 35KB),rename it and send me plzzz
[12:19] <KelloggsFrosties> apparle: http://tinyurl.com/oewtn9  .... is this working?
[12:20] <KelloggsFrosties> apparle: might work if your college proxy is set up by fools
[12:20] <apparle> KelloggsFrosties: no use.........later on the URL expands
[12:20] <KelloggsFrosties> apparle: okay. no idea where i could put it
[12:21] <apparle> KelloggsFrosties: I goto the file from some guy on #ubuntu
[12:23] <llutz> apparle: try accepting dcc
[12:24] <apparle> llutz: I got the file..........what is dcc
[12:24] <llutz> dcc-filesend
[12:24] <llutz> apparle: but if you already got it, fine
[12:25] <apparle> llutz: thanks for helping
[12:26] <hoji> spricht hier jemand Deutsch?
[12:26] <MyUser4I> !de hoji
[12:26] <MyUser4I> oh - geh bitte in #ubuntu-de oder #kubuntu-de
[12:27] <MyUser4I> Hier wird englisch gesprochen
[12:27] <hoji> achso
[12:27] <hoji> sorry bin neu hier
[12:27] <hoji> weiss nicht ,al genau wo ich bin
[12:28] <KelloggsFrosties> !de hoji
[12:28] <MyUser4I> jetzt bist du in #ubuntu - wenn du konversation benutzt, hast du oben tabs
[12:28] <MyUser4I> tipp einfach /join #ubuntu-de bzw. /join #kubuntu-de in die Eingabezeile des Chats
[12:28] <MyUser4I> oder klick auf den Link
[12:29] <hoji> dann werde ich in Raum deutschland landen ja?
[12:29] <MyUser4I> hoji:Naja, genaugenommen wo halt Deutsch gesprochen wird - können selbstverst. auch Österreicher oder sonstwas sein, #ubuntu-at ist z. B. sehr schlecht besetzt
[12:30] <hoji> ok
[12:31] <hoji> koenntest du mir die raeume hier generel erklaeren?
[12:32] <hoji> ich meine ist es nur PC oder Ubuntu bezogen oder gibtest unterschidliche intressenbereiche
[12:32] <MyUser4I> Es gibt unterschiedliche Interessensbereiche, freenode ist aber glaub ich v.a. "stark" bei Computerbezogenen Inhalten, insb. freie Software
[12:33] <hoji> und was ist der unterschid zu der herkoemliche chat-raeume wie man es z.b von yahoo kannte
[12:34] <MyUser4I> Tja - wenn ich wüsste, was die Chat-Räume bei Yahoo sind ... Wenn es so wie bei den IM ist, die ich benutze: Der wesentliche Unterschied ist, dass es hier Operatoren gibt, die dich kicken (aus dem Channel werfen) und bannen (permanent aus dem Kanal entfernen) können - tlw. können auch nur bestimmte Leute reden
[12:34] <hoji> ich meine auf welchem Server it man den gena wenn man hier in IRC chatet
[12:34] <hoji> und wer ist der anbieter_
[12:34] <MyUser4I> Unterschiedliche Server, freenode ist der Anbieter (?), es gibt z. B. irc.ubuntu.com oder irc.freenode.com
[12:35] <MyUser4I> Auf welchem Server von Freenode man ist, ist aber normalerweise egal - jede Nachricht von jedem Server kommt zu jedem anderen
[12:35] <Ectomorph> Hi folks !
[12:37] <hoji> ok das heisst IRC ist qausi das Protokoll wie POP3 oder IMAP fuer Mail und FTP fuer file transfer ist , und es kann von unterschiedliche Firmen angeboten werden- habe ich das richtig verstanden?
[12:38] <MyUser4I> ob es das Protokoll ist, weiß ich nicht, aber ja, es gibt ein bestimmtes Protokoll und ja, es kann und wird von unterschiedlichen Firmen angeboten. Wenn du z. B. einmal in die Serverliste von konversation/quassel/was auch immer schaust, wirst du es sehen
[12:38] <llutz> hoji: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[12:39] <lyhana8> hi, how do I install firefox-3.5 under kubuntu 8.04
[12:41] <hoji> user4 ich danke dir erstmal
[12:41] <hoji> hab wiedermal was gelernt
[12:42] <MyUser4I> kein Problem, sinnvollerweise spricht man darüber aber nicht in #ubuntu, sondern wenn dann in #ubuntu-de-offtopic oder einen anderen Kanal, der für irc-Fragen da ist (gibt es #irc bzw. #irc-de?)
[12:43] <hoji> recht hast du , aber wie gesagt ich habe grade mehr oder weniger nicht verstanden wie ich ueberhaupt hier her gelandet bin
[12:43] <hoji> also ehr
[12:43] <hoji> zufall
[12:43] <hoji> ich werde es aber jetyt gleich testen
[12:43] <MyUser4I> bzw. voreinstellung :-)
[12:43] <MyUser4I> ok
[12:44] <hoji> wuensche dir noch was
[12:44] <MyUser4I> dir auch, cu
[12:44] <hoji> danke und ciao
[12:45] <Cruithne> oO
[12:47] <MyUser4I> sorry
[13:04] <hybr1der> Hi, how do i disable autoconnect to a network without disabling the interface?
[13:22] <OsamaK> What package should I install to debug Lokilaze
[13:24] <Guest56177> hell
[13:24] <Guest56177> how are u
[13:26] <kaddi> is there a way to find out when ubuntu was last installed on a system from CD?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:26] <kaddi> heya BluesKaj :)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> hey kaddi :)
[13:50] <Polyculture> hey there, I'm working at kubuntu 9.04 machine here and have a brother mfc206c printer installed
[13:50] <Polyculture> however, the kde printer applet tells me 'cups-missing-filter' when i try to print something
[13:51] <Polyculture> any idea how to fix this?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Polyculture, have you tried printing anyway ...I got the same warning 3 or 4 times, but just ignored it and the printer worked anyway.
[14:06] <pica> hey :-) , is it possible to install linux ( for example openSuse) on a 2nd hard drive while using kubuntu ?
[14:09] <Polyculture> BluesKaj:unfortunately it does not respond
[14:09] <Polyculture> BluesKaj: the print job's status is 'pending' all the time, not sure if that's normal
[14:18] <sladen> if I have a user saying "PS: I "chmoded" it to 777, however when I dblclick it, it asks for "Run in terminal", "Display" and "Run". Can it be hidden?" is that likely to be a KDE thing, rather than GNOME?
[14:35] <BrianE> Afternoon, could anyone tell me how to configure Dolphin such that a single click highlights and double click runs/navigates?
[14:35] <Polyculture> BrianE: have a look at systemsettings
[14:36] <Polyculture> --> keyboard and mouse
[14:36] <Polyculture> --> mouse
[14:36] <Polyculture> and then select double-click to open files and folders
[14:37] <BrianE> Aha, thanks very much :-)
[14:37] <Polyculture> note that this is a kde-global setting
[14:37] <Polyculture> also valid for konqueror, for instance
[14:37] <Polyculture> BrianE: you're welcome
[14:38] <BrianE> Speaking of Konqueror, I've been trying to set Firefox as my default browser in KDE since switching to KDE last night... I haven't been able to, there is no "Firefox" option in the drop-down in System Settings and setting it as default in Firefox doesn't do so
[14:40] <Polyculture> where did you try to select this?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> BrianE, you have to set it in a couple of places as default , not just system settings
[14:41] <BrianE> Actually just got it, thanks :)
[14:41] <Polyculture> you can define a programme to handle http and https under 'default applications'
[14:41] <BrianE> I guess I forgot to hit "Apply" =\
[14:42] <Polyculture> BluesKa: btw, which would that be?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> your email prog prolly won't take the setting if it's anytrhing other than kamail
[14:42] <Polyculture> sure
[14:43] <BrianE> I'm using Thunderbird, though I'm fine ;)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> err kmail and also your irc app
[14:43] <Polyculture> actually kmail respects the default setting in systemsettings
[14:44] <BrianE> KDE's looking pretty nice these days.... Last time I tried it was a few years back, and God was it ugly
[14:44] <_2> in older versions of kubuntu where did "kmail" appear in the menus ?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> kmenu/internet
[14:45] <Polyculture> _2: i guess office or internet
[14:45] <_2> BrianE heh. you mean the default settings/theme look nice
[14:45] <_2> Polyculture i would have guessed there too     but....
[14:46] <Polyculture> _2: sorry if not i guess i cannot help
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Polyculture, kmail is part of kde system settings but other progs like thunderbird etc need to be configged internally
[14:47] <BrianE> No, I mean the whole shebang
[14:47] <BrianE> It hasn't got the icons fixed yet, but the rest is looking a whole lot better layout-wise, colour-wise, etc
[14:47] <Polyculture> BluesKaj: yeah, so i guess this was a missunderstanding
[14:47] <BrianE> Before, EVERYTHING colour-clashed, it was HORRIBLE. Now, it's actually aesthetic... Save the icons
[14:47] <_2> BluesKaj the system settings menu ?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> _2, are you asking about kmail?
[14:49] <_2> BluesKaj yes.  the launcher in the menu in particular
[14:49] <_2> BluesKaj i don't see one.   <<dapper>>
[14:49] <BluesKaj> kmenu / apllications / internet /kmail
[14:49] <kaddi> dapper :o
[14:50] <BluesKaj> oooh, dunno if I can recall that far back ...it should be in the kmenu
[14:52] <_2> there exists not any "kmenu / apllications"  i looked in "kmenu / net"  and  "kmenu / office"   and  "kmenu / utilities" ....   i don't see it anywhere
[14:52] <kaddi> _2 couldn't you simply create a shortcut in the kmenu where you expect it, instead of searching for it any longer?
[14:53] <_2> kaddi yeah sure.  i just wondered if it was in some "extra odd" place
[14:53] <_2> kaddi i could also use a terminal to launch it
[14:53] <kaddi> _2 didn't want to say that as you obviously wanted it in the menu ;)
[14:54] <_2> thought if it used to be in some wierd location, sutely someone here would recall where
[14:54] <kaddi> _2 in kde4 it is in programs->internet->kmail, which is were I would expect it in kde3 as well
[14:54] <_2> surely
[14:54] <BluesKaj> _2, alt+f2 and type kamail
[14:54] <BluesKaj> kmail
[14:55] <BluesKaj> seems it's gone in kde4.3
[14:56] <_2> BluesKaj seems it's gone in 3.5.2 also
[15:00] <_2> hmm, that's why i used to always install the debian menu, it lists all gui applications,  and some cli ones ;/
[15:00] <BluesKaj> _2, do a locate kmail in the terminal , cuz it certainly seens to exist in "/home/username/.kde/share/apps/kmail"
[15:01] <_2> BluesKaj heh that's the customization information ;/
[15:01] <BluesKaj> and many other files too
[15:02] <BluesKaj> yeah oops
[15:05] <kaddi> hi, i'm looking into collecting debug info for the random intel-related freezes I get on this machine.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> _2, well it instakked just fine ...and I know i saw it not too long ago in the internet section
[15:05] <BluesKaj> err installed
[15:06] <kaddi> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test I found these instructions, but I have 2 questions. the first one would be in step 4: How can I change my settings so that kdm is always started with intel_debug=batch on boot? and second in step 7: what is the kdm equivalent of requesting the following logs:sudo cp /var/log/gdm/\:0.log dri_debug/gdm.log
[15:07] <galvao> Greetings. Kubuntu 9.04 here. When I issue the command sudo iphone-mount I get the error "Please add yourself to the fuse group...". My user *is* already in the fuse group... Any ideas?
[15:09] <QuantumKaos> how do i sort files by type?
[15:10] <_2> ok am i spoofed or what.  i can't reach google.com   it's redirrected to  free.google.com
[15:10] <_2> ???
[15:11] <kaddi> it's a trojan, run an AVP ;)
[15:11] <_2> kaddi avp ?
[15:11] <kaddi> anti virus program, sorry.. I'm just messing with you
[15:12] <kaddi> _2 you could try alternative browser to see if it is browser specific or a global setting
[15:12] <kaddi> aw :/
[15:13] <galvao> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 and when I issue the command sudo iphone-mount I get the error "Please add yourself to the fuse group...". My user *is* already in the fuse group... Any ideas?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !patience | galvao
[15:14] <galvao> Sorry, my bad
[15:15] <BluesKaj> !lol
[15:19] <cod0r> its a lame code
[15:22] <BluesKaj> _2, I'm using opendns and it blocks free.google.com .. wonder what that is .
[15:23]  * BluesKaj googles free.google.com :)
[15:24] <rickey> my adept manger has locked up anyone here have the sudo  comand
[15:24] <rickey> to unlock and reset it
[15:25] <BluesKaj> rickey, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:25] <rickey> ty
[15:26] <BluesKaj> then remove broken dependencies if required, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:26] <rickey> will that reopen it or do i need to do a configure comand?
[15:26] <_2> and sudo apt-get install -f   as needed
[15:28] <BluesKaj> it should clear any blocked installs
[15:29] <apparle> galvao: Since you are using 'sudo' you are doing this as root.......plz check if 'root' is in fuse group........................ I don't know for sure
[15:29] <BluesKaj> rickey, maybe you had 2 installs going simultaneously on diff package managers or apt
[15:31] <_2> which is the very reason for the lock file to begin with
[15:38] <skreech> Hello
[15:38] <skreech> I'm looking for a pptp client does anyone know one?
[15:58] <BrianE> Erm...
[15:59] <BrianE> Kopete crashes every time I login to my WLM account
[15:59] <kaddi> BrianE are you using OTR? That has been crashing Kopete for close to year for me now
[15:59] <[-Haza-]> Afternoon folks. Simple question. Can i set my dolphin to display folkder in a tree like structure? (Like Windows Explorer) Cheers
[15:59] <[-Haza-]> Oh, KDE 4.2.2
[16:00] <BrianE> kaddi: No, I just opened Kopete for the first time, entered my login details then let it login... I've tried it 4 times now, each time it crashes
[16:00] <BrianE> Could it be anything to do with the fact I have in the region of 1000 contacts?
[16:00] <kaddi> It might, you have another account you could test?
[16:01] <BrianE> I have one with around 2-3 hundred...
[16:01] <kaddi> BrianE :O I have 4 people on WLM.. :p
[16:03] <kaddi> [-Haza-] press F7 and you should get a tree on the left side
[16:03] <[-Haza-]> kaddi: Thank Youuuuuuuu! :D
[16:03] <kaddi> your welcome :D
[16:03] <BrianE> Alright, trying to connect with my smaller account...
[16:04] <kaddi> it's supposedly also in the dolphin settings, but I was looking right now and couldn't find it
[16:04] <BrianE> It's just sitting on "Connecting"
[16:04] <BrianE> Nope, it's not, it crashed
[16:04] <kaddi> BrianE let me check my kopete
[16:05] <kaddi> it's working fine with 0.70.4
[16:06] <el> How can I turn off "Sorry, the program *blah* closed unexpectedly" messages?
[16:07] <kaddi> BrianE you added new accounts to kopete just now or are you using an older profile for kopete?
[16:07] <BrianE> This is my first time using KDE, I just switched from GNOME last night
[16:07] <BrianE> First ever time using Kopete ;)
[16:07] <kaddi> :D
[16:08] <kaddi> It's usually a great IM, but I'm sorry I can't help you with that.. have you tried running kopete from command line to see if it gives you a more precise error message?
[16:09] <BrianE> Doing so now
[16:09] <kaddi> el I don't think that's possbile, at the very least, I don't know how you could do that. Sorry
[16:10] <BrianE> While it's frozen, it's echoing hundreds of lines in the terminal
[16:10] <kaddi> always the same line? or all different?
[16:10] <skreech> [-Haza-]: have you looked at the folders panel?
[16:10] <BrianE> "kopete(PID) WlmAccount::createContact: contact "contact@address.com" already on server list. Do Nothing."
[16:10] <BrianE> For every contact... And I think it just finished and loaded properly :O
[16:10] <kaddi> hehe
[16:10] <BrianE> It did, I've got my contacts for the smaller account listed now :)
[16:10] <BrianE> Dare I try with my bigger account???
[16:10] <skreech> [-Haza-]: Oh wait you have :)
[16:11] <[-Haza-]> skreech: Thanks for the reply but i have been pointed in the right direction. Cheers! :)
[16:11] <kaddi> BrianE go for it :D
[16:12] <BrianE> How do I make it only show online contacts??
[16:13] <kaddi> BrianE you see the little men in the taskline? the first one sets your online status, the second is for adding new contats and the third should hide/unhide offline contacts
[16:13] <kaddi> the third one is grey on grey, it looks as if it is disabled (for me) but it isn't
[16:14] <skreech> el_: uninstall drkonqui ?
[16:15] <kaddi> BrianE otherwise click "settings" and you should the an option "show offline users" untick the box in front of it
[16:15] <BrianE> Got it, cheers :D
[16:16] <BrianE> Alright, about to enable my bigger account... This should be fun lol
[16:16] <skreech> BrianE: Ctrl+U :)
[16:17] <BrianE> Is there a way to make the contact list more... Aesthetic?
[16:19] <kaddi> honestly, I never tried :p But when you go into settings, you have options for the contact list and chat window and I believe you can install new themes.. But I don't know how tweakable all of this is
[16:22] <el_> skreech: There is no such package.
[16:23] <BrianE> Erm... I see a potential problem here
[16:23] <BrianE> When logging in it shows a notification for EVERY contact that's online
[16:23] <sara_> salut
[16:23] <BrianE> "Ben has come online", etc
[16:23] <BrianE> When that happens with over 200 contacts online at once, it is NOT a good thing
[16:24] <kaddi> salut sara_ :)
[16:24] <kaddi> !fr
[16:26] <shadeslayer> BrianE: you can configure that in the notifications section of system settings
[16:26] <BrianE> Aah, thanks :)
[16:26] <kid_> hi, does "apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade packages, or upgrade 9.04 to 9.10?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> kid_: nope
[16:27] <shadeslayer> kid_: not unless you converted your sources.list to karmic
[16:27] <kid_> shadeslaye: no i didnt' i just added a ppa to upgrade to kde 4.3
[16:27] <shadeslayer> kid_: then theres no harm
[16:28] <rmrfslash> Anyone using ATI and experiencing issues w/ suspend + OpenGL compositing should upgrade to Catalyst 9.8. The issue finally appears to be fixed. You need to wipe your xorg.conf though and run aticonfig --initial
[16:29] <kid_> shadeslaye: i tried to upgrade through the graphical update manager 3 times, but they were all unsuccessful, the kde was messed up, no background ( a chek screen is shown), no clicks on desktop, no widget, no applet, no title bar, kde menu is opened at top of thepage and lots of problems
[16:31] <anoneemouse> kid_ i had the same problems
[16:31] <anoneemouse> you need to figure ut which packages failed
[16:31] <anoneemouse> i had some weird corrupt file in contact in my package lists
[16:31] <kid_> anoneemous: how should i do that?
[16:32] <anoneemouse> try running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in konsole
[16:32] <anoneemouse> then watch the output for errors
[16:32] <anoneemouse> the graphical thing obviously wasnt showing you the error
[16:32] <kid_> anoneemous: yeah u r right
[16:33] <anoneemouse> i had the same thing with the checkerboard
[16:33] <kid_> anoneemous: yes exactly, a checker board is shown as desktop!
[16:34] <kid_> anoneemous: and now does kde 4.3 works fine for u?
[16:34] <anoneemouse> yeah i managed to fix it
[16:34] <rickey> can someone post me a link for thr restricted downloads
[16:34] <rickey>  metaubuntu and stuh
[16:34] <BluesKaj> funny how that upgrade manager works well from a clean start , but if you've upgraded apps with apt cli or adept or synaptic , the upgrade manager doesn't see those and fails
[16:34] <rickey> such
[16:34] <anoneemouse> kpackagekit is a piece of crap
[16:35] <anoneemouse> it really sucks bad
[16:35] <kid_> anoneemous: yes
[16:35] <kid_> anoneemous: ii think adept (especially those in kde .5)was really nice
[16:35] <kid_> 3.5
[16:36] <kid_> thanks for ur help, another question, after i found the errors what should i do then?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> rickey, alt_f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , uncomment /delete the # that begins the 'deb' url sources )
[16:36] <BluesKaj> alt=f2 sorry
[16:37] <BluesKaj> duh alt+f2
[16:37] <anoneemouse> what error did you get kid_?
[16:37]  * BluesKaj needs to take a break
[16:37] <kid_> anoneemous: still nothing, now downloading kmail
[16:38] <rickey> not sure i understand
[16:38] <BluesKaj> rickey, then in the terminal , sudo apt-get update
[16:38] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:39] <anoneemouse> wait for it to fail kid_... maybe you will even be lucky and it will work
[16:39] <kid_> anoneemous: i hope so
[16:39] <shadeslayer> kid_: you havent seen kpackagekit in Karmic....its *awesome*
[16:39] <kid_> shadeslaye: really? did u tried karmic?
[16:40] <shadeslayer> kid_: im on karmic.... alpha 4 :)
[16:40] <anoneemouse> i dont know... kubuntu has been about as stable as windows 98 for me
[16:40] <anoneemouse> i dont know if ill stick with it
[16:40] <kid_> shadeslaye: does it really unstable?
[16:41] <kid_> shadeslaye: first i wanted to upgrade to karmic, but as it is highly recommanded not to use aphas and betas for noral uses, i changed my mind
[16:41] <shadeslayer> kid_: thats up to you
[16:41] <kid_> shadeslaye: did u face any fatal bugs there on karmic?
[16:42] <shadeslayer> kid_: not till now
[16:42] <shadeslayer> kid_: can we take this over to #ubuntu+1 ?
[16:43] <kid_> shadeslaye: great, and when karmic is beta and then the final release, does the update do all to upgrade to that?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> kid_: sure does
[16:44] <kid_> shadeslaye: great, so i am going on karmic :)
[16:44] <anoneemouse> shadeslayer: how will that affect a system that has already been upgraded to kde 4.3
[16:44] <anoneemouse> ?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: hmm.... idk,i did a clean install
[16:46] <skreech> anoneemouse: It will add some newer packages
[16:46] <skreech> karmic tracks the KDE 4.3 branch up till release
[16:46] <kaddi> it will also update all the non kde 4.3 stuff ;)
[16:47] <anoneemouse> when i upgraded kde it looked like some other things were also upgraded...
[16:47] <anoneemouse> im not sure though... i have no idea how kubuntu updates work
[16:48] <anoneemouse> should i upgrade if im having alot of stability issues?
[16:48] <anoneemouse> i have about 3-4 complete system lockups daily
[16:48] <kaddi> anoneemouse are you using intel graphics?
[16:49] <anoneemouse> nope... latest nvidia drivers
[16:49] <anoneemouse> geforce le 7300 .. nothing fancy
[16:49] <kaddi> can't help then ;)
[16:49] <anoneemouse> the last lockup happened when i tried to copy a dvd with handbrake
[16:50] <anoneemouse> the one before the ktimetracker pulled down my whole system
[16:50] <kaddi> anoneemouse if you upgrade to karmic, you'll get the new kernel and a newer X release as well. There has been improvement  for intel in karmic, but I have not followed any developpement with nvidia
[16:50] <kaddi> ;)
[16:51] <shadeslayer> kaddi: new 190.x drivers are awesome (had to compile them)
[16:52] <anoneemouse> 190.x for nvidia?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: yep
[16:52] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: theres a thread some where about the beta nvidia drivers
[16:52] <anoneemouse> i had to install the 185 drivers to make my system usable
[16:53] <skreech> anoneemouse: KDE has external dependencies they would be pulled in as well assuming that all you did was update KDE
[16:53] <kid_> shadeslaye anoneemous: thanks for ur help, i appreciate it. going to karmic :)
[16:53] <anoneemouse> it looked like it updated my sound drivers... because i had many more devices suddenly
[16:54] <skreech> anoneemouse: is 7300 supported from nVidia? I thought they dropped that from the drivers
[16:54] <anoneemouse> and my usb sound driver started working mysteriously
[16:54] <shadeslayer> kid_: no problemo.... hope we meet in #ubuntu+1
[16:54] <anoneemouse> skreech: yes it is... the drivers work great for me
[16:55] <anoneemouse> the strange thing is that i never had a single graphics crash on freebsd with nvidia drivers
[16:55] <anoneemouse> but i was still running x86
[16:55] <anoneemouse> maybe x64 just sucks
[16:55] <skreech> ahh x64
[16:56] <BluesKaj> skreech, yes the nvidia 185 driver supports the 7300 series
[16:56] <shadeslayer> 64 bit is great...no problems so far
[16:56] <MsMaco> x86...so thats like 8086....so x64 must be 8064? no... umm x64 is 64bit...so x86 is 86bit?
[16:57] <anoneemouse> thank you for the correction doctor
[16:57] <BluesKaj> skreech, it's actually listed under the 180 driver in adept
[16:57] <skreech> MsMaco: That's the nomerthat AMD has bestowed upon 64Bit computers with x86 compatibilty
[16:57] <MsMaco> x86_64
[16:57] <phh> MsMaco: x64 is the name used only by lazy people, the "real" name is x86_64, meaning it's x86 with 64
[16:57] <phh> ho.
[16:57] <MsMaco> ho?
[16:57] <anoneemouse> who thehell cares... everyone knows what it means
[16:58] <BluesKaj> <--- AMD64, but been using x86 for 4 yrs
[16:58] <anoneemouse> BluesKaj: i just swicthed to a 64 bit os(kubuntu) : it hasnt been very good
[16:58] <BluesKaj> phh , lazy ppl ?
[16:58] <phh> anoneemouse: like what ?
[16:59] <phh> BluesKaj: i can't see any other reason than lazyness.
[16:59] <MsMaco> phh: whyd you say "ho."?
[16:59] <anoneemouse> hahaha :P
[16:59] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, yeah I found that out with first try with kubuntu 64 bit version
[16:59] <phh> MsMaco: pointless
[17:00] <MsMaco> ok...
[17:00] <anoneemouse> i get so many system lockups :/
[17:00] <anoneemouse> its sad
[17:00] <anoneemouse> and its the first time i used linux in years... i was expecting something amazing
[17:00] <[John]> having trouble here; that last update seems to have broken my sound subsystem
[17:00] <[John]> no sound whatsoever
[17:01] <BluesKaj> hmm, phh ...no need to be judgmental , most are here to help one another , not be critical
[17:01] <[John]> how am I supposed to enjoy my midget amputee porn with no sound?
[17:01] <anoneemouse> [John]:  does your soundcard show in the multimedia system settings?
[17:01] <anoneemouse> make your own sound effects
[17:01] <anoneemouse> :)
[17:01] <MsMaco> anoneemouse: lockups sound like either bad hardware or bad driver
[17:02] <BluesKaj> [John], midget amputee sound goes with that, it's cutoff
[17:02] <[John]> "Oooh Ohh yeah baby, gimme that fat stump... I'm a filthy little stump-f*cker!"
[17:02] <[John]> uh, no
[17:02] <[John]> it's not the same
[17:02] <MsMaco> uh guys
[17:02] <anoneemouse> MsMaco: my hardware is not bad... i run xp for a week without rebooting
[17:02] <MsMaco> anoneemouse: so thatd be the "bad driver" option then.
[17:03] <BluesKaj> [John], you're treading on thin ice
[17:03] <[John]> I'm in xfce right now
[17:03] <anoneemouse> bad driver... could be... but which device?
[17:03] <skreech> anoneemouse: I'll wager it's X do you have two computers in the house?
[17:03] <MsMaco> [John]: lets go with "can't watch Harry Potter" k?
[17:03] <[John]> oh sorry
[17:03] <[John]> ok
[17:03] <[John]> just trying to b e funny
[17:03] <[John]> didn't mean to offend
[17:03] <anoneemouse> there is another yes skreech, but its not mine
[17:03] <MsMaco> !guidelines | [John]
[17:04] <[John]> um, OK I can't watch my Naruto
[17:04] <anoneemouse> im going to try the 190 nvidia driver
[17:04] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, , don't
[17:04] <anoneemouse> why not?
[17:04] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: why not?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> if you do , make sure you uninstall any glx drivers first
[17:05] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: they are beta drivers so be carefull,also you will not be supported here with x problems
[17:05] <shadeslayer> later on if you install the new drivers
[17:05] <anoneemouse> well i have the .run file for the older driver...so im sure i could just reinstall those
[17:06] <[John]> OK I know that Jack won't run
[17:06] <tommy_the-dragon> why has john not been kicked?
[17:07] <[John]> all my levels look fine in aumix
[17:07] <[John]> heh? I apologized for the language
[17:07] <tommy_the-dragon> oh ok
[17:07] <shadeslayer> [John]: have you installed the restricted package?
[17:07] <[John]> yes
[17:07] <[John]> hold on...
[17:07] <[John]> lemme make sure
[17:07] <tommy_the-dragon> aah i see
[17:07] <anoneemouse> well im going to try the beta driver... cant make things any worse i guess
[17:08] <[John]> I saw it downloading while I was updating
[17:08] <anoneemouse> bye
[17:08] <tommy_the-dragon> its just young people use this channel
[17:08] <shadeslayer> [John]: the kubuntu-restricted-extra
[17:08] <shadeslayer> package
[17:08] <[John]> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:08] <[John]> or extra?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> [John]: extras
[17:09] <[John]> will I need to restart after downloading this?
[17:09] <[John]> and installing?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> [John]: nope
[17:10] <[John]> audio should just work?
[17:10] <shadeslayer> [John]: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras :
[17:10] <shadeslayer> [John]: does your audio not work by default? have you not tested ot yet?
[17:11] <[John]> I remember watching kubuntu-restricted-extras appear in the list of packages being downloaded
[17:11] <MsMaco> [John]: run "speakertest" in a terminal
[17:11] <MsMaco> er
[17:11] <MsMaco> speaker-test
[17:13] <[John]> OK I have an ncurses license agreement
[17:14] <[John]> scroll to the bottom and hit "enter"?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> [John]: sure
[17:15] <[John]> ah I see... right arrow, then Enter
[17:16] <[John]> OK done
[17:17] <[John]> OK still nothing
[17:19] <[John]> No sound
[17:19] <anoneemouse> shadeslayer: this driver seems a lot more responsive
[17:19] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: :)
[17:19] <anoneemouse> :)
[17:19] <[John]> one thing I ought to mention: I have two sound cards
[17:19] <shadeslayer> its better at power management too
[17:20] <anoneemouse> im not too worried about that shadeslayer, im hoping ill have less crashes
[17:20] <[John]> one is an onboard, the other is an old Creative Sound Blaster Live!
[17:20] <anoneemouse> and i can now scroll in amarok without it being really glitchy
[17:20] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:21] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: told ya
[17:21] <[John]> any other suggestions?
[17:21] <[John]> I'
[17:21] <[John]> I'm getting rather frustrated with this
[17:21] <anoneemouse> [John]: i have two soundcards
[17:21] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: btw if you have a kernel upgrade youll need to recompile the drivers
[17:21] <[John]> been working on it for a few hours already
[17:21] <anoneemouse> you need to set the preference in the multimedia settings... have you tried that?
[17:22] <anoneemouse> shadeslayer: do i just run the .run file again?
[17:22] <anoneemouse> it compiles the drivers it seems
[17:22] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: yep
[17:22] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: theres a script out on the forums
[17:23] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: to automatically compile them for you in case of a upgrade
[17:23] <anoneemouse> will i need it...?
[17:23] <anoneemouse> i dont mind doing it manually
[17:23] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: its up to you,its automatic....
[17:24] <anoneemouse> ill just do it manually... i have bad luck with automatic things in any case
[17:24] <shadeslayer> i have the script.....havent tested it yet
[17:25] <anoneemouse> are you also running kde 4.3 shadeslayer?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: im on karmic
[17:25] <anoneemouse> when is karmic being going rtm(so to speak)
[17:26] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: 1st October for Beta and sometime in mid october is the actual release
[17:26] <anoneemouse> its a bit early... i think ill wait for beta at least
[17:27] <[John]> OK I've selected the sound blaster card, but when I try to test it, I hear nothing
[17:28] <anoneemouse> have you checked the volume on it [John]?
[17:29] <[John]> on the device?
[17:29] <[John]> how do I do that for a specific device?
[17:29] <[John]> alsamixer?
[17:30] <anoneemouse> you should be able to use kmix just fine
[17:31] <anoneemouse> but you can try alsamixer -c 1
[17:31] <anoneemouse> 1 being the card number
[17:33] <anoneemouse> is the gstreamer backend better than the xine backend... i have heard alot of good thingsabout gstreamer
[17:34] <[John]> still nothing
[17:34] <[John]> both sound cards are unresponsive
[17:34] <anoneemouse> hmmm
[17:34] <MsMaco> [John]: does anything happen when you run "speaker-test"?
[17:35] <MsMaco> should make static noises
[17:35] <bhabalinux> hi everyone
[17:36] <bhabalinux> is there anyway, we can make a dialup to connect internet through dsl?
[17:36] <anoneemouse> [John]: have you tried running "sudo asoundconf list"?
[17:36] <QuantumKaos> can anyone help?
[17:36] <[John]> speaker-test = nothing
[17:37] <anoneemouse> it should show you the order of preference for soundcards
[17:37] <QuantumKaos> i cant copy a directory into my hd, it says "omitting directory"
[17:37] <QuantumKaos> what the heck?
[17:37] <MsMaco> QuantumKaos: cp -R
[17:37] <QuantumKaos> the command i give is "cp -R"
[17:37] <bhabalinux> I do 'sudo pppoeconf' but its so frustrating
[17:37] <QuantumKaos> exactly!
[17:37] <[John]> Names of available sound cards:
[17:37] <[John]> Live
[17:37] <[John]> VT82xx
[17:37] <QuantumKaos> and it wont work
[17:37] <skreech> QuantumKaos: what is the full command ?
[17:38] <QuantumKaos> cp -R /media/Archive/nameofthefolder /dev/sdf1/
[17:38] <QuantumKaos> the output is cp: accessing `/dev/sdf1/': Not a directory
[17:38] <anoneemouse> which one is your speakers connected to [John]?
[17:39] <QuantumKaos> skreech: ??
[17:40] <anoneemouse> is it ok to post a long url in here?
[17:40] <BrianE> Wtf
[17:40] <BrianE> I'm using Kopete, finally get signed in etc...
[17:40] <BrianE> Then when I send and recieve messages, they're ALWAYS blank
[17:41] <skreech> QuantumKaos: Why are you copying into a raw device?
[17:41] <anoneemouse> is it possible that the text color is the same as the background BrianE?
[17:41] <QuantumKaos> because i have to put that folder in there
[17:42] <BrianE> anoneemouse: No. I've tried sending messages to myself, I get a notification saying "Incoming message from Brian"... Below that are empty quotes
[17:42] <kaddi> QuantumKaos partitions get mounted under /media/somename which is where you want to copy that content
[17:42] <anoneemouse> have you tried running kopete from command line and checking for errors on the console when you send a message?
[17:42] <kaddi> hehehehe
[17:43] <QuantumKaos> i tried that too, but it wont let me copy it anyway, i even tried sudo dolphin but still it wont work
[17:43] <kaddi> QuantumKaos under what name did you mount the partition?
[17:44] <QuantumKaos> could this be a prob? http://paste.ubuntu.com/255235/
[17:45] <kaddi> QuantumKaos you need to start graphical programs with kdesudo instead of sudo, but this should not be the problem
[17:45] <kaddi> how did you mount the partition?
[17:45] <kaddi> and what filesystem is it using?
[17:47] <QuantumKaos> have u seen the output? http://paste.ubuntu.com/255235/
[17:47] <BrianE> Aha, I think I've found the problem
[17:48] <BrianE> "trying to create local folder /home/brian/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/WlmProtocol :  Permission denied"
[17:48] <BrianE> I'll fix the permission problems and see if that helps
[17:48] <BrianE> I think I ran Kopete as root by accident to fix a previous problem with it crashing
[17:49] <trojan> Подскажите как тэги в долфине включить?
[17:49] <trojan> Чот не могу найти.
[17:49] <kaddi> QuantumKaos yes, it is most likely due to the fact that you started dolphin with sudo instead of kdesudo. This is not a problem related to your copying. Please answer my questions: Did you mount the drive to which you are trying to copy and what filesystem does it have? (eg ntfs, fat32, ext2..)
[17:49] <kaddi> !ru
[17:50] <skreech> BrianE: Ah yeah I never get why that makes a root directory in someone elses ~
[17:50] <kaddi> BrianE Happy to hear you could resolve your problem yourself :)
[17:50] <QuantumKaos> its automounted
[17:50] <QuantumKaos> cuz itz a removable hd
[17:50] <skreech> QuantumKaos: Then copy to where it's mounted
[17:51] <QuantumKaos> i tried...........!!!
[17:51] <QuantumKaos> both on /media/....
[17:51] <QuantumKaos> and /dev/.....
[17:51] <QuantumKaos> none of em work
[17:51] <kaddi> which name does it get when it's automounted?
[17:51] <skreech> QuantumKaos: What's the command and error you got?
[17:51] <QuantumKaos> sdf1
[17:52] <QuantumKaos> [18:37] <QuantumKaos> the output is cp: accessing `/dev/sdf1/': Not a directory
[17:52] <kaddi> QuantumKaos please post the output from "moun" to pastebin and give us the link, it might help to find the rpoblem
[17:52] <kaddi> "mount" even
[17:52] <bhabalinux> I accidentally removed taskbar, how can I restore please anyone!
[17:53] <QuantumKaos> here it is, so u believe itz mounted now?    /dev/sdf1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[17:53] <kaddi> bhabalinux do a rightclick on the desktop, select "create taskbar" then you can do a rightclick on the taskbar and add the widgets back in it believe
[17:53] <[John]> I wonder what happened to break my sound
[17:53] <kaddi> QuantumKaos ok, so you need to copy to /media/disk not /dev/sdf1 not /media/sdf1
[17:53] <[John]> it was fine until I rebooted last night after an update
[17:53] <anoneemouse> does someone here know how to set sample rate for a specific card in alsa?
[17:54] <BrianE> Goddammit, that hasn't solved it
[17:54] <BrianE> Still nothing
[17:54] <QuantumKaos> kaddi, i tried that too
[17:54] <kaddi> and what did it say?
[17:54] <QuantumKaos> otherwise id not be here
[17:54] <anoneemouse> the #alsa channel seems pretty dead :/ ive been struggling for weeks
[17:54] <bhabalinux> kaddi, I don't have create taskbar option in rightclick..
[17:55] <[John]> I'm going to restart this machine
[17:55] <QuantumKaos> cp: omitting directory `/media/Archive/foldername'
[17:55] <QuantumKaos> but of course itz there
[17:55] <kaddi> QuantumKaos try cp -r /media/Archive/foldername /media/disk
[17:56] <kaddi> what does it say?
[17:56] <QuantumKaos> kaddi: it's apparently working ;)
[17:56] <kaddi> hehe
[17:56] <BrianE> Lol, you're not gonna believe this...
[17:56] <BrianE> Well you probably are, but it's stupid nonetheless
[17:56] <kaddi> I never believe anything ;)
[17:57] <BrianE> When browsing through the plugins page I'd enabled "Pipe" and written a test script to see what kind of data it passed, see if I could parse that into an online IM database for future use...
[17:58] <BrianE> The script didn't return anything, so Kopete just ignored my messages and treated everything as "" :(
[17:58] <kaddi> QuantumKaos when you try to access a mounted device, you will always find it in media. You only need /dev/sd if you are mounting something manually (eg mount  /dev/sda1 /media/disk) once the device is mounted, you can access it in media. mount will tell you which device is mounted to which mountpoint in media
[17:59] <kaddi> BrianE lol, Id never been able to help you find that in a hundred years ;)
[17:59] <QuantumKaos> kaddi: thanks, the copy didnt go well
[17:59] <BrianE> :P
[17:59] <kaddi> QuantumKaos what happened?
[17:59] <BrianE> Thanks for your help, Kopete looks nice :)
[18:00] <QuantumKaos> something was apparently corrupted
[18:01] <bhabalinux> kaddi, any other suggestions please!
[18:01] <QuantumKaos> it copied some of the files but not all, it left some entire folders, im trying to re-copy em manually
[18:01] <BrianE> bhabalinux: Right click the desktop and choose "Add Panel"
[18:01] <BrianE> bhabalinux: That'll create an empty taskbar along the bottom of the screen. Right click that taskbar and choose "Add Widgets"
[18:02] <bhabalinux> I did
[18:02] <bhabalinux> it goes at the top of the screen
[18:02] <BrianE> That's alright, you can reposition it later
[18:02] <BrianE> Then, drag and drop the following widgets: Application Launcher Menu
[18:03] <bhabalinux> ok
[18:03] <BrianE> Task Manager
[18:03] <BrianE> Pager
[18:04] <BrianE> System Tray
[18:04] <BrianE> Digital Clock... In that order
[18:04] <tammaro> /join #ubuntu-it
[18:04] <tammaro> ops
[18:04] <tammaro> sorry
[18:04] <kaddi> you can reposition them as well later, if you didn't stick to the order ;)
[18:05] <BrianE> That'll reproduce your taskbar. Aah sorry, for the "Application Launcher Menu", you can choose that or "Application Launcher"... Personally I'm using the former, though the latter is the full KDE menu
[18:05] <kaddi> I usually add in a wastebin as well, it's just useful :)
[18:06] <MsMaco> or remove your plasmarc, then log out and back in and itll be regenerated
[18:08] <ade_> ciao
[18:08] <xtrmzero> hi, i have a dual boot system: windows and ubuntu (gnome interface). i`m new with linux and i have tried to use the winamp 2.0 skins on audacious and now it doesn`t work anymore...
[18:08] <xtrmzero> please help a noob :D
[18:09] <BrianE> Alright, I'm off to the shop, back in a roly mo
[18:09] <anoneemouse> try #ubuntu xtrmzero
[18:10] <xtrmzero> thanks
[18:10] <xtrmzero> will do
[18:10] <anoneemouse> #kubuntu doesnt come with audacious
[18:10] <anoneemouse> kubuntu even
[18:10] <anoneemouse> :)
[18:10] <xtrmzero> could u recoment another player?
[18:10] <xtrmzero> recomend*
[18:10] <BrianE> Amarok
[18:10] <anoneemouse> i don't know... i don't use skins myself
[18:11] <ade_> naggia
[18:11] <anoneemouse> amarok 1.4 is nice
[18:11] <xtrmzero> thanks again
[18:11] <xtrmzero> i`ll try to install it now
[18:12] <MsMaco> thats a rather different player...
[18:13] <MsMaco> amarok is big jukebox style....like itunes...big window taking up whole screen
[18:13] <MsMaco> theres a kde version of xmms though
[18:13] <MsMaco> qmmp?
[18:13] <MsMaco> yeah thats the name
[18:14] <BluesKaj> VLC ftw
[18:16] <QuantumKaos> if during a copy it blocks cuz of a corrupted file reporting the name of the file in the output, how do i "say" in the console "skip"? in order to let it skip that file and go on with the copy?
[18:16] <anoneemouse> cp should have a switch for that.. have you checked the man page QuantumKaos?
[18:17] <QuantumKaos> nope
[18:17]  * BluesKaj is not happy with the recent trend in linux media apps trying to be everything to everybody ...it spreads it's strengths too thin and then most of the good aspects don't work right anymore
[18:18] <anoneemouse> i dont see a switch for that QuantumKaos :/
[18:18] <QuantumKaos> but i see that myname@mymachinename: $ didnt re-appear in the last line as it usually does when something goes well, so i assume its temporarly stopped waiting for my "decision"?
[18:18] <anoneemouse> BluesKaj: amarok 2.x has been a dissappointment so far
[18:19] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, yeah , I switched back to amarok 1.4 for a whaile but finally settled for VLC ..it's aboring interface but it works well
[18:19] <QuantumKaos> i just checked and it copied only 35 gb of the 125 it should have, so itz actually waiting for me to tell him to "skip"
[18:20] <anoneemouse> im ok with amarok 2.1... but im hoping it gets better... i loved 1.4
[18:37] <ubuntu> hi evverybody
[18:37] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: hi
[18:37] <ubuntu> need help to install kubuntu on an usb drive
[18:37] <ubuntu> and want to boot from this usb drive
[18:38] <jtheuer> ubuntu: there is a livecd -to usb howto is that sufficient for you?
[18:38] <ubuntu> i run kubuntu from live cd right now
[18:39] <jtheuer> so you have the livecd on usb.
[18:39] <bhabalinux> Thank you all for your great help
[18:39] <ubuntu> no, i have the live cd on cdrom
[18:39] <ubuntu> don't know what to do next
[18:39] <bhabalinux> I can now customize panels and widgets
[18:40] <jtheuer> if you have the livecd on usb you HAVE ubuntu on usb and you can install you own stuff
[18:40] <jtheuer> (at least I think you can)
[18:40] <ubuntu> no, i don't have the live cd on usb!
[18:45] <ubuntu> ok, i've found in ubuntuusers' wiki a howto for live-usb
[18:45] <ubuntu> thanks for the hint
[18:53] <silentda> hello world
[18:54] <yaman> hello
[18:54] <silentda> I'm having problems with viewing videos online which use Brightcove video player... any ideas how to resolve this?
[19:08] <kaddi> shadeslayer as this is normal jaunty I'm taking this here. ;) the aurora thing says it needs 4.3, can I safely ignore that, or should I take an older release?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> kaddi: hmm....i had 4.3 when i compiled it so no idea
[19:09] <kaddi> ah :/ ok, well I'll check if I find an older release for 4.2 or if it really is 4.3 only
[19:09] <shadeslayer> kaddi: sure
[19:11] <kaddi> well everything points to 4.3 only, the comments mention many cases were compiling with 4.2 just breaks stuff.. and developpement only began in june, so there are no "old versions"
[19:12] <kaddi> I'll just wait it out then
[19:14] <shadeslayer> kaddi: hehe
[19:17] <suit> Does anyone use the DeKorator theme engine? I get tiny grey "corners" in every corner of every window no matter which DeKorator theme I use, does anyone have an idea? It's driving me insane!
[19:19] <silentda> Has anyone encountered problems viewing videos online which use Brightcove player? It's all over the internet, and I can't see videos which use it :(
[19:19] <silentda> http://www.brightcove.com/en/
[19:22] <norpan111> Best font in kde?
[19:22] <norpan111> Wich?P
[19:23] <BluesKaj>  silentda , instead of their website , whynot post a url that uses the player
[19:31] <silentda> Actually, I'm having problems beyond one video player. There are many online players which don't work for me, for example AOL videos: http://video.aol.com/
[19:32] <jiohdi> I have an acer laptop, I changed sessions to KDE but I dont find wifi anywhere, where is the settings... it worked fine with gnome
[19:34] <jiohdi>  I have an acer laptop, I changed sessions to KDE but I dont find wifi anywhere, where is the settings... it worked fine with gnome
[19:34] <kaddi> !patience | jiohdi
[19:34] <kaddi> jiohdi you should have knetworkmanager in your start menu under internet, can you see it there?
[19:34] <jiohdi> sorry, I saw new entries :)
[19:35] <jiohdi> I will check, different machine
[19:37] <BluesKaj> well silentda , i'm afraid your USA only sites like aol don't play anywhere else , try for a more universal tpe site
[19:37] <BluesKaj> type
[19:37] <Phrea> sorry to bother you again, what's the recommended partition setup for the most stable install? [I have a 320gig hdd]
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !partition
[19:38] <Phrea> I'm thinking: / 10GB, /etc 10gb, /swap 8gb, /home [the rest]
[19:39] <Dragnslcr> That would work, though I don't usually separate /etc from /
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Phrea, how much Ram ?
[19:39] <Phrea> I know how to partition, just not sure of the size per partition
[19:39] <Phrea> BluesKaj: 4gb
[19:39] <Dragnslcr> I would think /var would need the space more than /etc would
[19:39] <Phrea> I've got lots of room, so better safe than sorry right
[19:40] <BluesKaj> then 4G is plenty ..ususlly it's 1.5X ram but that's formula for under 2G
[19:40] <Phrea> so would you recommend /var as a seperate partition instead of /etc?
[19:40] <Phrea> or are both quite useless as seperate partitions?
[19:41] <kaddi> speaking of space and /var/ is /var/log cleaned up in any way or do I get the logs from install up to the current date in there?
[19:41] <kaddi> I have a kdm.log that has >1Gb which I find quite a lot
[19:41] <Dragnslcr> I don't think separating /etc or /var is worth it. Just do regular backups of them and you should be fine
[19:42] <Phrea> so both on / ?
[19:42] <Dragnslcr> I only have about 15 MB on /etc, and less than 1 GB on /var
[19:42] <Phrea> [no partitions for either of them?]
[19:42] <BluesKaj> dunno never tried it ...tried / as a seperate once but never saw any speed advantages , mostly it's meant to save your data if one or the other in the unlikely event that one becomes corrupted
[19:42] <Phrea> I just want the most stable install possible
[19:42] <Dragnslcr> I'd separate /home from /, but that's usually it
[19:43] <Phrea> [so, for a windows user, that's having a lot of partitions]
[19:43] <Phrea> ok
[19:43] <Phrea> well, that and a bit of /swap
[19:43] <Phrea> will the installer give me all those options?
[19:44] <Phrea> dont version me, I'm ashamed enough as it is
[19:44] <BluesKaj> no , you'll need to manually cofigure them afaik
[19:44] <Phrea> oh ah
[19:44] <Phrea> I'm SO new at this :D
[19:44] <BluesKaj> ojn the live cd
[19:44] <Dragnslcr> There should be a step during the install to partition the disk
[19:44] <Phrea> thank you for the advice
[19:45] <jonah1980> hi guys, i've screwed my system trying to install a different video driver/kernel and now i just have a prompt, can anyone pleae help me out?
[19:45] <Phrea> Dragnslcr: yes indeed
[19:45] <Phrea> ooooh
[19:45] <BluesKaj> hehe
[19:45] <Phrea> I shouldnt have said that :D
[19:45] <Phrea> well, my other box is running Deb atm
[19:45] <Phrea> so forgive me my vista install on this one
[19:46]  * kaddi throws the first stone
[19:46] <kaddi> and hides her vista-dualboot ;)
[19:46] <Phrea> gheheh
[19:46] <Phrea> :D
[19:46] <Phrea> thanks :D
[19:46] <BluesKaj> jonah1980, at the prompt sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , choose the default driver if there's an option to
[19:46] <Phrea> no, my other box wil a pure Kubu box
[19:46] <Phrea> hence all my questions
[19:46] <kaddi> :)
[19:46] <Phrea> there will be no dualboot
[19:47] <Phrea> [I want to completely go from win to lin]
[19:47] <jonah1980> BluesKaj: tried that but it doesn't give any options, it reconfigures but x won't start
[19:47] <Dragnslcr> If you have a newer CPU, you can always setup kvm for running other systems
[19:47] <Phrea> it's a new box that I'm building
[19:47] <Dragnslcr> I finally got the networking worked out, so I have a couple Ubuntu servers running in VM's
[19:48] <Phrea> but I want to keep true to lin on that one
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Phrea, I dual boot vista nad kubuntu on a our laptop ,and I'm dual booting W7 and kubuntu on this pc ... nothing wrong with that
[19:48] <Phrea> true, but I'm fed up with all the crap
[19:48] <jonah1980> BluesKaj: actually there's an error message that says psb module psb not found, drmopen failed, this driver currently needs drm to operate
[19:48] <Phrea> so that one is going lin all the way
[19:48] <Phrea> hence my q's
[19:48] <BluesKaj> jonah1980, did you try the startx cmnd
[19:49] <jonah1980> BluesKaj: yeah tried it
[19:50] <BluesKaj> jonah1980, sudo apt-get remove "whateverdriveryouinstalled"
[19:50] <Phrea> you guys scare me
[19:51] <BluesKaj> jonah1980, or sudo dpkg -r "thedrivername"
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Phrea, no need to be , we were all new to this at one time
[19:51] <Phrea> true :)
[19:51] <Phrea> thanks you
[19:51] <Martijn81> are there any volunteers to help and make the ktorrent.orf/wiki a littlebit better??
[19:51] <Phrea> hey, I tried lin in the past a lot of times
[19:52] <Phrea> going back 10+ years
[19:52] <Phrea> ...but that was always to try only
[19:52] <Phrea> and then go back to windows quickly
[19:52] <Phrea> this will be my first real install which I'll be using as a win replacement
[19:54] <BluesKaj> yeah , same here actaully but i finally caught the linux bug with debian because it was so user friendly and introduced me to the apt package management system ...that was the kicker ..easy to install and remove apps that actually worked :)
[19:54] <Phrea> then I always succeeded, but now, it will be a serious install
[19:54] <Phrea> indeed !!
[19:54] <Phrea> so, here I am :D
[19:54] <BluesKaj> well welcome kubuntu Phrea ! :)
[19:54] <Phrea> ty :)
[19:55] <Phrea> I'll be installing it the day after tomorrow [after the hardware upgrade]
[19:55] <Phrea> :)
[19:55] <BluesKaj> hardware upgrade ?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> graphics ?
[19:55] <Phrea> yes, the box that I'll be installing it on is not really stable atm
[19:56] <Phrea> so I'm upgrading it
[19:56] <Phrea> no, the complete core [mabo, cpu, mem, etc]
[19:56] <Phrea> [not forgetting the hdd's]
[19:57] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, when i copy a file it always says "could not change permissions for" what does it mean? how do i solve it?
[19:57] <Phrea> the only thing I wont be upgrading is the video card actually
[19:57] <Phrea> gheh
[19:57] <BluesKaj> basically building a new pc
[19:57] <silentda> BluesKaj, I can play videos from youtube.com, and video.google.com, but videos from places like metacafe.com, dailymotion.com, vids.myspace.com do not work
[19:57] <Phrea> BluesKaj: yes :)
[19:57] <Martijn81> i am here to collect voulenteers to make the ktorrent's bittorrent client a better place to be
[19:58] <silentda> I use ktorrent...
[19:58] <Phrea> that's why I SO want my install to be as stable and good as possible
[19:58] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, when i copy a file it always says "could not change permissions for" what does it mean? how do i solve it?
[19:58] <Phrea> because it's my default box, and I use it very intensly
[20:00] <Martijn81> silentda: that is of good use
[20:01] <Martijn81> silentda: we need a lot of stuff done in the wiki
[20:01] <BluesKaj> silentda, make sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras , flashplugin-nonfree , w32codec installed
[20:01] <Martijn81> so if you have some time over to do something, please do so
[20:03] <BluesKaj> err w32codecs. silentda
[20:03] <QuantumKaos> hello???
[20:03] <QuantumKaos> BluesKaj: when i copy a file it always says "could not change permissions for" what does it mean? how do i solve it?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, make the file executable by right clicking and opening properties..thatwill give you permission
[20:05] <QuantumKaos> alright but what i dont understand is why till yesterday i could easily copy whatever i wanted to and now itz behaving like this?
[20:08] <QuantumKaos> ehm... so?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, did someone tell you to run a chmod +x command or chmod 777  or some such
[20:08] <QuantumKaos> not at all, but with kubuntu u never no
[20:08] <QuantumKaos> could we check what ur saying?
[20:09] <QuantumKaos> (for example another thing when i close a folder it says "unable to save bookmarks" before it wasnt)
[20:09] <BluesKaj> you could open the terminal and use the up arow kety to see what cmnds have been enterd in the last while
[20:10] <BluesKaj> arrow key
[20:10] <QuantumKaos> i entered many, cuz today i was trying to mount an external hd
[20:10] <QuantumKaos> so it would be useless
[20:10] <QuantumKaos> or endless :D
[20:10] <QuantumKaos> for me to find out
[20:10] <QuantumKaos> cant we just fix it in some way?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ok, now are you using autologin without a pw
[20:11] <QuantumKaos> no
[20:11] <QuantumKaos> i am typing a pw
[20:11] <QuantumKaos> and theres a logon screen
[20:12] <BluesKaj> ok, have you switched package managers like using konqueror instead of dolphin or vice versa
[20:12] <BluesKaj> err file managers
[20:12] <BluesKaj> not package
[20:14] <QuantumKaos> nope
[20:14] <QuantumKaos> i had the "unable to save bookmarks..." issue solved by typing "
[20:14] <QuantumKaos> cd /home
[20:14] <QuantumKaos> sudo chown -R username:username username
[20:15] <QuantumKaos> in a terminal
[20:15] <QuantumKaos> right now
[20:15] <FloodBotK1> QuantumKaos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <QuantumKaos> (sorry)
[20:15] <QuantumKaos> i dunno how to solve up the "could not change permissions for..." issue
[20:18] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, are you accessing a seperate HDD from the kubuntu partition ?
[20:18] <QuantumKaos> yep
[20:18] <QuantumKaos> ive got 4 of em
[20:19] <QuantumKaos> the system on one and 3 data storages
[20:19] <BluesKaj> aha , you need to change permissions for the whole drive afaik ...not sure how tho , fstab I think
[20:20] <BluesKaj> anyone ?
[20:20] <QuantumKaos> fstab was compile by me 2 years ago and it always worked well i swear
[20:20] <QuantumKaos> this message never appeared
[20:20] <QuantumKaos> its the first time
[20:20] <QuantumKaos> dunno why
[20:21] <BluesKaj> something to do with runlevels has changed perhaps
[20:21] <_temp_> hi, konversation just ate all my settings and can't even connect here anymore.. anyone has any idea where I can find them and maybe find out what happened or am  I better of to  go and ask in #konversation
[20:22] <silentda> BluesKaj, I had the kubuntu-restricted package installed already. I just installed the flash-plugin-nonfree, but the w32codecs doesn't appear in the package manager
[20:23] <Zxcvb> how can you install koffice 2.0.1 without installing kde 4.3?
[20:24] <QuantumKaos> BluesKaj: with runlevels?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> silentda, then open the package manager and find the sources tab and enable 3rd party software
[20:24] <silentda> okay
[20:25] <BluesKaj> then look for w32codecs again
[20:25] <Zxcvb> or is it not possible because both use the same ppa backports archive?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, it's prolly alongshot but, sudo update-rc.d
[20:29] <silentda> BluesKaj, w32codecs doesn't appear in any of the three software package managers installed
[20:29] <BluesKaj> silentda, do you have medibuntu repos installed ?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[20:30] <silentda> BluesKaj, not that I am aware of.. I can check
[20:33] <QuantumKaos> BluesKaj: what is that command for? cuz i run hardy and do not want to upgrade cuz ive done it in the past and it screwed up my sys, since im a newbie im not able to follow all the times so i prefer just keeping it that way for now, anwyay what about it?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, nono it's upgrading to another version , it's merely updating your permissions on your existing setup
[20:35] <BluesKaj> not upgrading to anther version
[20:36] <BluesKaj> QuantumKaos, you're merely updating you permissions ..that's all . You've made some changes on your setup that need to be adjusted
[20:38] <BluesKaj> !runlevels | QuantumKaos
[20:38] <slow-motion> hi
[20:39]  * BluesKaj takes a break
[20:40] <QuantumKaos> ok so im doing it and it wont change anything
[20:40] <QuantumKaos> right?
[20:40] <QuantumKaos> but my permissions
[20:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:41] <QuantumKaos> didnt solve the prob
[20:41] <QuantumKaos> sorry
[20:48] <max__> 123
[20:50] <[-Haza-]> Hey guys (and gals).. the whole CLASSPATH thing still confuses me a little... I have installed apache ant (its a build tool) and ive been told that i need to add a third party java lib (xmltask for all you java developers) to the classpath..
[20:51] <silentda> BluesKaj, w32codecs is downloading, then I think I need to reboot my system. Thanks so much for your advise so far.
[20:51] <[-Haza-]> Now.. i know how to add my JAVA_HOME in the bashrc
[20:51] <[-Haza-]> But what about when they talk about just adding a .jar to the CLASSPATH
[20:51] <silentda> brb
[20:59] <silentda> BluesKaj...installing those codec packages didn't finish the job
[21:01] <BluesKaj> well silentda , some internet websites aren't perfect, actually most aren't and some sites just employ proprietary codec/players that simply won't work in linux
[21:02] <silentda> hmmm
[21:02] <silentda> I used to use Fedora 7, and just installed Kubuntu. I never had a problem with Fedora
[21:03] <BluesKaj> do these sites work in windows , if so then try to find out what the media players are based on
[21:03] <silentda> one media player which I have trouble with is called Brightcove
[21:04] <BluesKaj> yes , you mentioned that...
[21:04] <silentda> these sites do work in windows
[21:04] <silentda> I posted something in the Ubuntuforums... I should update the thread with what I've done so far
[21:06] <BluesKaj> silentda, brightcove is based on flash ...what browser are you using ?
[21:09] <silentda> BluesKaj, I mainly use firefox 3.0.13 (?), but these players don't work in Epiphany or SeaMonkey or Konqueror
[21:10] <BluesKaj> really ?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> lemme look  again
[21:12] <BluesKaj> what's good site to test again, silentda ?
[21:12] <silentda> mmm
[21:13] <silentda> here's a random one
[21:13] <silentda> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1098393/how_people_count_cash/
[21:14] <kaddi_> silentda: that link works fine for me with flash and java
[21:15] <warren_> hi
[21:15] <kaddi_> !hi
[21:15] <BluesKaj> yeah same here as does this one http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=61958924
[21:15] <silentda> Might I have some conflicting plugin that overrides flash or java?
[21:15] <Guest66326> my packages are fu**ed upn when i do an upgrade i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255355/
[21:15] <Guest66326> what can i doN
[21:15] <kaddi_> interesting video btw :)
[21:16] <silentda> I wouldn't know
[21:16] <kaddi_> sty
[21:16] <kaddi_> sry
[21:16] <silentda> :)
[21:16] <BluesKaj> silentda, apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[21:16] <silentda> yeah, vids.myspace don't work either
[21:17] <BluesKaj> just give the installed : output
[21:17] <silentda> flashplugin-nonfree:
[21:17] <silentda>   Installed: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1
[21:17] <silentda>   Candidate: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1
[21:17] <silentda>   Version table:
[21:17] <silentda>  *** 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1 0
[21:17] <FloodBotK1> silentda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <silentda>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/multiverse Packages
[21:19] <silentda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/255362/
[21:20] <BluesKaj> ok now silentda , just the output beside installed ,  apt-cache policy kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:21] <silentda> k
[21:21] <silentda> Installed: 31
[21:23] <WarrenD> can someone help me?
[21:24] <BluesKaj> alright , open firefox , and type, about:plugins , in the addressbar ... make sure they're all enabled
[21:25] <BluesKaj> !ask | WarrenD
[21:25] <WarrenD> i already asked
[21:25] <WarrenD> but my name was Guest...
[21:25] <BluesKaj> well...
[21:26] <WarrenD> i don't know how to get it running in english to help you, any idea?
[21:27] <silentda> BluesKaj, the list of plugins is pretty huge, all of them enabled except "Default plugin"
[21:28] <silentda> Shall I enable it?
[21:28] <silentda> if so, how?! :p
[21:32] <BluesKaj> no, the others cover for it anyway
[21:32] <WarrenD> anyone knows how i could run apt-get in english ?
[21:32] <BluesKaj> apt-get is english
[21:32] <WarrenD> well the output is in french ;)
[21:34] <BluesKaj> change your locale and language in system settings/regional & language
[21:35] <WarrenD> isnt tthere a var? like LANG=en_fr program_to_run
[21:38] <silentda> my list of plugins has some overlaps... I don't know if that matters or not:
[21:38] <silentda> in brief, here are my plugins: Shockwave Flash, IcedTea Java Web Browser plugin, default plugin, Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux, DivX Web Player, Quicktime Plugin 7.2.0, VLC Multimedia Plugin, Windows Media Player Plugin 10, DivX Browser Plugin, Quicktime Plugin 7.4.5, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plug-in, Gecko-mediaplayer 0.9.4, DivX Browser Plugin, Quicktime Plugin 7.4.5, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plugin, and mplayerplug-in 3.55,
[21:39] <WarrenD> Here is the output in english: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255373/
[21:39] <WarrenD> what can i do?
[21:39] <shenhaZ> hi all, would you tell me how i can create usb live disc from mac os x?
[21:44] <iEatChildren> i cant find libopenal.so anything on my system
[21:44] <iEatChildren> any ideas?
[21:45] <EagleScreen> shenhaZ: look for any usb-disk image of Kubuntu
[21:45] <iEatChildren> nevermind, i found the packages i need i believe
[21:47] <silentda> in brief, here are my plugins: Shockwave Flash, IcedTea Java Web Browser plugin, default plugin, Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux, DivX Web Player, Quicktime Plugin 7.2.0, VLC Multimedia Plugin, Windows Media Player Plugin 10, DivX Browser Plugin, Quicktime Plugin 7.4.5, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plug-in, Gecko-mediaplayer 0.9.4, DivX Browser Plugin, Quicktime Plugin 7.4.5, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plugin, and mplayerplug-in 3.55,
[21:47] <Walzmyn> kdenlive says it'll record from my webcam, and it turns the light on briefly, but then says "not connected" anybody know about this?
[21:47] <kaddi> silentda: and what is the name of the file for the shockwave plugin?
[21:48] <silentda> Kaddi, libswfdecmozilla.so
[21:48] <kaddi> ha :D
[21:49] <silentda> there are 2 mime types: adobe flash movie and future splash movie
[21:49] <kaddi> ok, BluesKaj, silentda  I didn't entirely follow what you guys did, did you install flashplugin-installer? kubuntu-extras-restricted? Did you install sun-java?
[21:50] <kaddi> silentda: I think the problem is, that you have several programs for flash installed and they keep each other from working correctly. The same might be true for java
[21:51] <silentda> kaddi, we did install kubuntu-restricted-extras, I think flashplugin-installer is already there (can check), and I'll have to check on sun java
[21:51] <kaddi> silentda: can you type the following commands into your commandline and tell me which of these have been installed. (give me a sec I need to look for the packages)
[21:51] <silentda> but yes, it was my suspicion that I because some of my plugins are seemingly superfluous, it's a conflict in the system
[21:52] <silentda> go ahead
[21:52] <BluesKaj> don't use the flashplugin-installer , it confuses things , if the falshplugins are installed dump the installer
[21:53] <kaddi> I thought flashplugin-installer replaced flashplugin-nonfree?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> no
[21:54] <kaddi> silentda: let's just check what is installed first please type apt-cache policy <package name> for each of the following packages: flashplugin-nonfree, swfdec-mozilla, swfdec-gnome, mozilla-plugin-gnash, gnash and tell us which are installed.
[21:54] <silentda> one sec
[21:55] <BluesKaj> kaddi, he already did
[21:56] <kaddi> BluesKaj: ah, sry I missed that. Just thought that would be the problem as FF is pointing to swfdec and you installed kubuntu-restricrted-extras
[21:56] <BluesKaj> mozilla plugin-gnash is culptrit .;..i see it now
[21:56] <BluesKaj> remove it ..conflicts with the nonfree version in FF
[21:57] <silentda> okay, so I should remove the flashplugin-installer too?
[21:58] <silentda>  wait... mozilla-plugin-gnash is not installed (installed: (none))
[21:59] <silentda> also gnash is installed:(none)
[21:59] <kaddi> what about swdefc-mozilla?
[21:59] <silentda> swfdec-mozilla is there
[21:59] <kaddi> *swfdec
[21:59] <kaddi> remove that and see if it helps
[22:00] <BluesKaj> silentda, no the flash installer is ok ...it runs in the shell
[22:01] <BluesKaj> the swf is a flashplayer ..it's ok
[22:02] <BluesKaj> maybe you can try removing swfdec-mozilla, can always reinstall
[22:02] <kaddi> BluesKaj: I also noted the IceTea alternative for java in that list. I don't know if that might cause problems
[22:03] <BluesKaj> no idea, it could be
[22:03] <silentda> I did remove swfdec-mozilla. should I restart FF to see if any changes occur? no change so far
[22:03] <Walzmyn> What are we trying to fix here?
[22:03] <kaddi> not working flahs in Firefox
[22:03] <BluesKaj> BBL...gonna take a break
[22:03] <kaddi> *flash
[22:04] <silentda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243653
[22:04] <Walzmyn> When I've ran into this, I had to do a compelete removal of the flash package (ie config and all) then reinstall, and it worked
[22:06] <kaddi> silentda: Is the other swfdec package also installed?
[22:06] <silentda> at this moment, no
[22:08] <kaddi> silentda: can you please also check with apt-cache policy the following packages: icedtea6-plugin icedtea-6-jre-cacao
[22:08] <silentda> wait, it looks like things are improvingQ
[22:08] <silentda> !
[22:09] <kaddi> :)
[22:09] <silentda> omg...
[22:09] <silentda> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/576380/fattest_child_in_the_world/
[22:09] <kaddi> it's working?
[22:10] <silentda> sorry for the off-topic-ness, but you don't need to understand German to know that girl's got a problem
[22:11] <silentda> Yes, its working!
[22:11] <kaddi> the video is rather old, I think and afaik the child lost wait. (I happen to be german though, so I understand just fine ;) )
[22:12] <silentda> so, lemme see, what did we do to make it work? After I restarted FF things started working...
[22:12] <silentda> I think it was from removing the swfdec-mozilla
[22:12] <kaddi> we uninstalled swfdec an open source flash alternative.
[22:13] <kaddi> usually if you have two flash plugins installed things don't work
[22:13] <kaddi> (that is my personal experience )
[22:13] <silentda> you know, I suspected that from the beginning, but didn't know much about it to say for sure
[22:14] <silentda> Alright, I'm going out for some exercise. I don't want to end up like that girl. Thanks a bunch Kaddi and BluesKaj for the help!
[22:15] <kaddi> silentda: yeah, it's not always easy to figure out what the problem is. I think you still have two java-plugins installed: the normal sun one and the icedchat alternative.. I wouldn't change things if they are working now. just in case something goes wrong in the future ;)
[22:15] <kaddi> have fun
[22:18] <silentda> I'll keep the 2 Javas in mind. I've also got 2 of a lot of stuff... windows media player, realplayer, divX and quicktime. Not very elegant I think
[22:23] <LuisJa> ehhm for somereason the data for autoconnecting to ubuntu irc channel was deleted in konversation
[22:24] <LuisJa> i am using quassel right now, can someone help me get the data back to log in to kubuntu irc with konversation?
[22:25] <kaddi> LuisJa: what happens if you try to login into kubuntu irc with konversation?
[22:25] <kaddi> (just curious)
[22:25] <kaddi> or is the connect window completely empty?
[22:27] <leravi> español
[22:28] <leravi> ???
[22:28] <kaddi> !es
[22:28] <leravi> gracias
[22:28] <kaddi> de nada
[22:29] <kaddi> LuisJa: still with us?
[22:29] <slow-motion> n8
[22:35] <carl___> how do i upgrade from jaunty to alpha 4
[23:18] <_ronald> I'm using the daily build of kubuntu 9.10 and I would like to know other experiance with it. Here it is still very unstabel (kde)
[23:19] <kaddi> _ronald: I believe these things are better discussed in #ubuntu+1
[23:21] <_ronald> kaddi: thanks for the info
[23:22] <kaddi> most people here will use an official release, while ubuntu+1 is exclusively for karmic
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> A daily build is unstable? That should be a major headline in the newspapers...
[23:26] <_ronald> Dragnsicr: Wow that is so funny :(
[23:34] <usuario> boa noite
[23:34] <usuario> alguém pode me dar um help rápido ?
[23:35] <Phrea> uhuh
[23:35] <usuario> não consigo abrir o synaptic
[23:35] <usuario> eu já sei porque, mais não consigo resolver
[23:36] <usuario> preciso editar o source.list
[23:36] <kaddi> !br
[23:36] <usuario> mais não consigo saltar
[23:36] <usuario> salvar
[23:36] <usuario> ok
[23:36] <kaddi> :)
[23:36] <usuario> thanks
[23:39] <Aqui1a> Hello. I'm trying to install Kubuntu onto my laptop, but I'm not having much success. No matter what I seem to do, my laptop won't boot from the DVD Drive... Does anyone have any helpful suggestions? :)
[23:41] <kaddi> Aqui1a: did you change your boot-order in bios?
[23:41] <Aqui1a> Yep. I set 'internal optical device' as numero uno
[23:42] <kaddi> did you burn the cd yourself or did you order it?
[23:43] <Aqui1a> I burnt it myself
[23:44] <kaddi> Aqui1a: could you try the cd on another pc to make sure it is bootable?
[23:44] <kaddi> did you check the md5sum of the file before you burnt it?
[23:44] <Aqui1a> I don't have access
[23:45] <Aqui1a> I don't know what that is... I just extracted the files from the ISO
[23:45] <Aqui1a> and burnt them to disc
[23:46] <kaddi> Aqui1a: you need to burn the iso to the disk and mark the disk as bootable, as far as I know. You shouldn't extract them before
[23:46] <Aqui1a> I see
[23:46] <kaddi> Aqui1a: see here for instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[23:47] <BluesKaj> yes , Aqui1a the iso image is important as it contains the boot up instruction for the the dvd
[23:48] <Aqui1a> Okies
[23:48] <Aqui1a> Can I use blank DVDs?
[23:51] <BluesKaj> yes
[23:51] <BluesKaj> oops
[23:54] <marco> Kde 4.3 is goign
[23:54] <Phrea> its what?
[23:54] <marco> Is Kde 4.3 going to be pushed in the official repos of Kubuntu 9.04?
[23:55] <Phrea> no, it'll be included in 9.10
[23:55] <EagleScreen> i dont think so
[23:55] <EagleScreen> what is the function of kdewallet?
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> EagleScreen- stores application passwords
[23:57] <Aqui1a> Sorry about that - my computer restarted by itself
[23:57] <EagleScreen> Dragnslcr: the idea of storing passwords is not have to type them each time, ins't it?
[23:57] <Aqui1a> So, could I use a DVD-R to install Kubuntu with?
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> EagleScreen- I would think so
[23:58] <Phrea> yes
[23:58] <EagleScreen> Dragnslcr: then why does it ask for password for each application that I launch each session?
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> Aqui1a- if you downloaded the DVD disc image, yes. I can't remember if the CD image works on blank DVD's
[23:59] <Dragnslcr> EagleScreen- well, it means not having to type the passwords many times for the same program (Kopete is a good example)
[23:59] <Aqui1a> I can only find one image