[00:19] <micahg> intellectronica: what kind of specification do  you need for that follow bug?
[00:28] <Flare183> Can I use the package bug-triage to triage bugs for Ubuntu?
[00:32] <wgrant> Flare183: No; that only supports the Debian BTS, not Launchpad.
[00:32] <Flare183> wgrant: Dang, thanks.
[00:33] <wgrant> Flare183: Launchpad has a nice API, though, so an alternative could be written.
[00:33] <Flare183> wgrant: True.
[00:47] <spm> *** FYI. restarting codehosting for a Cherry Pick ***
[03:03] <micahg> why would I not be able to download something published 11 hours ago on a ppa?
[03:04] <wgrant> micahg: Link?
[03:05] <micahg> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[03:05] <micahg> thunderbird package
[03:05] <micahg> amd64 build finished 8 hours ago
[03:07] <wgrant> micahg: Which one is missing, and from where?
[03:07] <wgrant> All that I've checked are fine.
[03:07] <micahg> I just did and apt-get update and cannot see the new thunderbird
[03:08] <wgrant> Which series?
[03:08] <micahg> jaunty
[03:09] <wgrant> micahg: thunderbird 2.0.0.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
[03:09] <wgrant> That's in the jaunty/amd64/main index.
[03:09] <wgrant> So it is there.
[03:10] <micahg> maybe because I'm getting failures on other files it's not rebuilding the apt db
[06:48] <twb> Where is malone's email interface documented?
[06:49] <twb> I'm looking at https://launchpad.net/malone and not seeing a documentation link
[06:49] <lifeless> help.launchpad.net
[06:49] <wgrant> twb: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[06:49] <twb> wgrant: thanks
[06:49] <wgrant> Fairly easy to find from help.launchpad.net's home.
[06:49] <wgrant> Although help.launchpad.net is not really easy to find.
[06:49] <wgrant> And that page used to be linked from within the web UI.,
[09:12] <philn> hi
[09:13] <philn> i get oops'd when accessing to https://edge.launchpad.net/elisa
[09:13] <wgrant> philn: Known and fixed bug.
[09:13] <wgrant> philn: Should be on edge in a few hours.
[09:13] <wgrant> philn: You can go to https://launchpad.net/ to disable the edge redirect for now.
[09:14] <philn> oh well, i'll just wait
[09:19] <wgrant> philn: Why not disable the edge redirect?
[09:20] <philn> dunno, i'm lazy :) as long as i can access bugs it's fine
[11:16] <michaelforrest> hello hello, can anybody tell me how to make a team 'private' on launchpad??
[11:24] <rowinggolfer> michaelforrest: At the moment if you want to use them in a free project you should send mail to feedback@ or ask a question in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad asking for them to be enabled.
[11:24] <rowinggolfer> not my words... but taken from http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-privacy-features-for-commercial-subscribers
[11:25] <michaelforrest> rowinggolfer: thanks
[11:25] <michaelforrest> I thought I'd done that though... I guess I should try again.
[11:25] <michaelforrest> my code branches are private but the team is showing as public.
[11:26] <rowinggolfer> ah... my bad, misunderstood your point.
[11:26] <rowinggolfer> what's your team?
[11:27] <rowinggolfer> I'm only asking so I can see what it is you want to hide ;)
[11:28] <mrevell> michaelforrest: Hi!
[11:29] <mrevell> michaelforrest: If you want to make a team private, you'll need to get one of our commercial subscriptions and then we can add you to the beta of our privacy features. Here's a link:
[11:29] <michaelforrest> hi mrevell
[11:29] <michaelforrest> I am actually a Canonical employee
[11:29] <michaelforrest> so I've already got some of that set up
[11:29] <michaelforrest> so I just fired off another email to feedback@
[11:29] <mrevell> michaelforrest: Ach, forgive me :) We're getting big now :)
[11:30] <mrevell> michaelforrest: Let me go check the feedback mailbox
[11:30] <michaelforrest> cool
[11:44] <idnar> how do I upgrade a bzr branch on launchpad to a newer format?
[12:07] <maxb> idnar: IIUC, bzr upgrade lp:...... should work
[12:09]  * idnar smacks his forehead
[12:09] <idnar> yeah, that works
[12:09] <idnar> I didn't even think to try it
[12:17] <magnetic_> hi
[12:20] <magnetic_> how can i attach binary files with launchpadlib. Text files work ok, but not binaries:
[12:20] <magnetic_> bug.addAttachment(comment='', data=open('foo.diff.gz').read(),
[12:20] <magnetic_> description='diff.gz', filename='foo.diff.gz', is_patch=False)
[12:22] <james_w> magnetic_: what's your version of launchpadlib?
[12:23] <magnetic_> james_w: 1.5.1
[12:24] <james_w> what's the error?
[12:26] <magnetic_> james_w: http://pastebin.com/m5ed004d
[12:29] <james_w> bug 353805
[13:25] <oubiwann> hey guys, I'm getting oops's on several project pages on launchpad...
[13:25] <beuno> oubiwann, yeah, sorry about that
[13:25] <beuno> should be fixed by tomorrow
[13:26] <beuno> fix went in, but it didn't make last nights rollout
[13:26] <oubiwann> beuno: okay, just checking to make sure it was a known issue
[13:26] <beuno> oubiwann, it is, thanks
[13:26] <beuno> flacoste, maybe it's worth a roll out during the day?  ^
[13:32] <idnar> if I'm getting an OOPS on edge, should I file a bug report?
[14:13] <flacoste> beuno: talk to Ursinha-nom to get an idea of the actual user impact
[14:41] <Ursinha> hi idnar
[14:44] <idnar> Ursinha: hi
[14:48] <mok0> So, I created a +junk hosted branch, and LP tells me that it's not a branch when I try bzr checkout. wtf?
[14:49] <lgoodrich> Hi, I have a question about the data retention policy of Launchpad. If I delete a branch of code, does it remain on your server?
[14:51] <mok0> lgoodrich: no one here right now /me thinks
[15:10] <jml> lgoodrich, it gets deleted from the server
[15:11] <lgoodrich> I was looking over the data retention policy, and it states that data is permantently stored unless there is an explicit reason for it to be completely removed
[15:12] <lgoodrich> My situation is that a branch was uploaded with sensitive information (a whole bunch of cleartext passwords) included in the revision history. I have deleted the branch but I want to ensure the data is completely removed from the server
[15:12] <beuno> lgoodrich, it may take a while from being removed from disk, backups, etc
[15:12] <beuno> it's no longer user-accessible
[15:12]  * jml returns to his vacation
[15:12] <beuno> but it takes a while (days? weeks?) for it to be cleared out from everywhere internally
[15:12] <beuno> \o/
[15:12] <beuno> welcome back jml
[15:13] <jml> beuno, _to_ my vacation, I'm not back until Monday :)
[15:13] <lgoodrich> Its fine if it takes a little bit, I'd just like to make sure it is eventually completely removed
[15:14] <beuno> lgoodrich, it will
[15:14] <beuno> jml, you got my hopes up
[15:14] <lgoodrich> My only concern is this statement within the Data Rentention policy: "General Data Retention Statement
[15:14] <lgoodrich> Launchpad retains all data submitted by users permanently.
[15:14] <lgoodrich> Except in the circumstances listed below, Launchpad will only delete data if required to do so by law or if data (including files, PPA submissions, bug reports, bug comments, bug attachments, and translations) is inappropriate. Canonical reserves the right to determine whether data is inappropriate. Spam, malicious code, and defamation are considered inappropriate. Where data is deleted, it will be removed from the Launchpad database but i
[15:14] <lgoodrich>  continue to exist in backup archives which are maintained by Canonical.
[15:15] <lgoodrich> sorry for the huge paste, here's the URL: https://help.launchpad.net/PrivacyPolicy
[15:15] <beuno> lgoodrich, right. Guaranteeing that it will be deleted from *all* backups is hard
[15:16] <beuno> hence, the policy
[15:16] <beuno> I'd change the passwords if it's critical
[15:16] <lgoodrich> yeah, that's understandable
[15:16] <beuno> although, only a handful of sysadmins have access to backups
[15:17] <lgoodrich> ok, so to summarize: My branch deletion will eventually propogate through the system, and the data will only exist on offline backups eventually?
[15:18] <beuno> lgoodrich, yes
[15:18] <lgoodrich> ok, thanks for your help beuno!
[15:26] <lfaraone> Hi, I want to change my project URL after a internal reorganization, but don't want old links + bzr checkouts to break. (we want to change from gasp-code to gasp-core)
[15:26] <lfaraone> Is there a way that a 301 redirect can be put in?
[15:27] <beuno> lfaraone, I don't k ow if project aliases work on that level
[15:27] <beuno> salgado, ^
[15:30] <salgado> lfaraone, just ask a question (launchpad.net/launchpad/+newquestion) asking for your project to be renamed and an alias created for the old name
[15:30] <salgado> beuno, that's exactly how project aliases work. :)
[15:32] <lfaraone> salgado:
[15:32] <lfaraone> salgado: thanks *
[15:33] <lfaraone> salgado: heh, amusingly, that gets me a 404 on edge.lp.net
[15:33] <salgado> lfaraone, http://launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion .  sorry
[15:35] <lfaraone> salgado: done, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/80333
[15:37] <kiko> gmb, ping?
[15:45] <gmb> kiko: Hi.
[15:45] <nhandler> I just tried to subscribe to a bug on edge and got: The following errors were encountered: person: No such object "https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~nhandler". Is this a known issue? Or should I go ahead and file a bug?
[15:46] <gmb> nhandler: I think that's a known issue. Let me just dig it up for you...
[15:46] <kiko> gmb, two questions. a) did jml contact you? b) what's the story on the bug tracker syncing stuff?
[15:47] <gmb> nhandler: That's bug 415166. There's a fix for that in the PQM queue at the moment.
[15:47] <nhandler> Thanks gmb
[15:48] <gmb> kiko: a) Yes, I'm talking to him tomorrow AM. b) If you mean the Bugzilla 3.4 work, it's all going smoothly so far. Should be landning a couple of infrastructure branches today and then it's just a case of plowing through the work that needs doing to adapt what we've already got for the LP plugin to work with the 3.4 API.
[15:48] <gmb> (Which is pretty straightforward)
[15:49] <kiko> gmb, okay. the reason I'm asking and that it's urgent is that the support period for that work is limited, so if max needs to do any fixes there's not a lot of time left for it
[15:49] <gmb> kiko: I know. BjornT said we had 30 days from the handover. Is that correct?
[15:50] <kiko> gmb, that's half correct -- part of the problem is that this code is already upstream and harder to change since 3.4 is out
[15:50] <gmb> Ah, okay.
[15:50] <kiko> but we'll figure it out -- just make sure you have something of a run in the next few days so we can assess the risk
[15:50] <gmb> kiko: Well, I'll be doing Bugzilla to the exclusion of all else tomorrow, so if there are any serious problems I'll probably run into them very soon.
[15:51] <kiko> gmb, awesome. thanks!
[15:51] <gmb> No worries.
[15:54] <Ursinha> idnar, in which page are you getting timeouts on edge?
[15:55] <idnar> Ursinha: I'm not getting timeouts; my problem is https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/415351
[15:55] <Ursinha> idnar, let me see
[15:58] <Ursinha> idnar, this is a duplicate of bug 414610
[15:58] <Ursinha> the fix is on the way
[15:58] <idnar> Ursinha: great, just wanted to make sure you guys knew about it
[15:59] <Ursinha> idnar, cool, thanks for filing that bug!
[16:25] <james_w> is there a page that shows me the list of reviews that have been requested of me and any team that I am in?
[16:27] <salgado> james_w, afaik, only on a per-project basis
[16:28] <james_w> ok, but this isn't a project, so that doesn't solve the issue either :-)
[16:28] <james_w> it seems I can poll each likely team, which at least allows me to find them
[16:43] <james_w> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review doesn't seem to document the process for resubmitting a branch
[17:21] <pedro_> hello, I'm getting a person: No such object "https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~pvillavi". when trying to subscribe to a report
[17:21] <pedro_> is that a known issue?
[17:21] <pedro_> bug 414627
[17:21] <pedro_> i'm trying to subscribe to that one ^
[17:24] <Ursinha> pedro_, I'm checking this
[17:24] <Ursinha> pedro_, I can reproduce this consistently here
[17:24] <Ursinha> intellectronica, hi
[17:25] <intellectronica> hi Ursinha
[17:25] <pedro_> Ursinha, ok thanks
[17:25] <intellectronica> pedro_: that's known and has already been fixed
[17:25] <intellectronica> Ursinha: ^^^^^
[17:26] <Ursinha> intellectronica, just found the bug
[17:26] <intellectronica> cool
[17:26] <Ursinha> (and a dupe)
[17:31] <pedro_> awesome, thank folks!
[18:38] <rowinggolfer> I know that project wiki's are frequently being requested for launchpad
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> are there any plans?
[18:39] <rowinggolfer> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+spec/project-wiki
[18:43] <intellectronica> rowinggolfer: yes, that's very high on the agenda for the next major cycle
[18:44] <rowinggolfer> intellectronica: any suggestions for starting a wiki which should be migratable?
[18:44] <rowinggolfer> is there any good standard format or application
[18:45] <intellectronica> rowinggolfer: no, i don't think we're that far in planning it yet. note that we all use moinmoin heavily. i don't know if that will influence the final format, but it's not a bad wiki at all
[18:47] <rowinggolfer> ok.. thanks
[19:53] <stgraber> cprov: Hi, you just marked bug 412186 as incomplete, can you explain me what information is missing ?
[19:56] <cprov> stgraber: sure, recently /sys and other bits started to be mounted for general builds. I'd like to have a confirmation that the issue is not already fixed.
[19:56] <cprov> stgraber: I should have commented that, I'm sorry.
[20:01] <stgraber> cprov: ok, I'll ask Michael Jeanson to test it again and comment if it still happens
[20:02] <cprov> stgraber: appreciated, thank you.
[20:33] <micahg> is the subscribe feature going to be broke on edge until the next full release?
[20:33] <micahg> or is the milestone regarding what is deployed to production only, not what's on edge?
[20:34] <beuno> micahg, only applies to production
[20:35] <beuno> edge is rolled out daily
[20:35] <micahg> cool
[20:35] <micahg> so hopefully tomorrow I can subscribe to bugs again :)
[20:40] <beuno> micahg, yeah, or, middle click on it
[20:57] <Daviey> Is LP busted? :)
[20:57] <Daviey> OOPS-1326ED427 ?
[20:57] <beuno> Daviey, when visiting a project's page?
[20:57] <Daviey> yah
[20:58] <Daviey> yeah, every project i try and visit under edge isn't working.
[20:59] <beuno> Daviey, known bug, fixed by tomorrow
[20:59] <Daviey> hurray, i assume current work around is disable edge for 2 hours?
[21:00] <beuno> Daviey, correct
[21:00] <Daviey> thanks beuno
[22:31] <cyberix> Are edge servers supposed to mirror everything from the actual servers?
[22:32] <cyberix> is this a bug https://edge.launchpad.net/kunquat
[22:32] <cyberix> or is it just that kunquat project is not part of the test setup?
[22:44] <matsubara> cyberix, bug 414610
[23:03] <popey> uhm, i just tried to subscribe to a bug and launchpad (edge) popped up a dialog box saying... The following errors were encountered:
[23:03] <popey> * person: No such object "https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~popey".
[23:04] <thumper> popey: known bug
[23:04] <thumper> popey: fix landed
[23:04] <thumper> not yet rolled I believe
[23:04] <popey> ok, thanks! :)
[23:05] <popey> i worked around it by "subscribing someone else" and putting my id in :)
[23:16] <popey> uhm, just visited https://edge.launchpad.net/wxbanker and got  (Error ID: OOPS-1326EC620)
[23:17] <matsubara> popey, likely to be bug 414610
[23:18] <popey> thanks. have disabled redirect for 2 hours