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TheMuso | c | 07:22 |
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huats | morning everyone | 08:29 |
chrisccoulson | good morning everyone! | 09:20 |
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asac | hmm. any clue why alt+f2 does not work for me? | 11:58 |
asac | usually i could run commands there ;) | 11:58 |
asac | but since karmic its broken somehow | 11:58 |
Laney | asac: It's something to do with gnome-panel and transparent backgrounds | 12:00 |
asac | transparent backgrounds ? ;) | 12:01 |
* Laney shrugs | 12:01 | |
Laney | there's a bug about it | 12:01 |
Laney | if you set it to no background or whatever and restart the panel it works again | 12:01 |
chrisccoulson | asac - bug 398826 | 12:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 398826 in gnome-panel "run application broken when setting background color set to "solid color"" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398826 | 12:02 |
asac | mine is none ... but maybe it wasnt all the time | 12:03 |
Laney | It's a good bug, I like it | 12:03 |
chrisccoulson | Laney - it's not a bug, it's a feature ;) | 12:03 |
Laney | enforced taste | 12:04 |
chrisccoulson | why would anyone want alt+f2 to work with a transparent background? ;) | 12:04 |
pochu | why would anyone want a transparent background? :) | 12:04 |
asac | i _dont_ have transparent background here ;) | 12:05 |
asac | its not working anyway | 12:05 |
pochu | try changing it just in case ;) | 12:06 |
asac | pochu: to solid color ;)? | 12:06 |
Laney | it breaks with transparent or background image | 12:06 |
Laney | only none works | 12:06 |
Laney | (I think) | 12:06 |
asac | Laney: i have "system theme" | 12:06 |
Laney | I'm not on gnome here so can't tell what the optionsa re | 12:07 |
asac | oh | 12:07 |
asac | i my bottom panel is transparent ; | 12:07 |
* asac kills all panels | 12:07 | |
asac | indeed it works | 12:07 |
asac | nice | 12:07 |
Laney | fun bug eh | 12:08 |
asac | yeah | 12:08 |
asac | is it really gnome-panel dealing with that? | 12:10 |
chrisccoulson | asac - yes | 12:12 |
asac | _GNOME_PANEL_ACTION_RUN_DIALOG | 12:12 |
asac | that comes from X? | 12:12 |
asac | guess metacity | 12:12 |
vuntz | asac: metacity, yes | 12:13 |
vuntz | and I have no idea why a transparent panel would make this stop :/ | 12:13 |
vuntz | likely some stupid bug | 12:13 |
asac | yeah. but this isnt taken over by compiz? | 12:14 |
asac | hmm compiz-0.8.2/plugins/gnomecompat.c:XInternAtom (d->display, "_GNOME_PANEL_ACTION_RUN_DIALOG", FALSE) | 12:15 |
Laney | I don't have any compiz | 12:15 |
Laney | metacity compositor though | 12:15 |
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rickspencer3 | hi gang | 13:37 |
rickspencer3 | vacation = over for rickspencer3 :) | 13:38 |
Laney | hihi | 13:38 |
Laney | you're in for a quiet week | 13:38 |
chrisccoulson | did you have a good vacation rickspencer3? | 13:41 |
rickspencer3 | chrisccoulson: yes | 13:43 |
rickspencer3 | I even got a nice sunburn | 13:43 |
chrisccoulson | where did you get the sun? i havent seen much sun here for a while ;) | 13:44 |
rickspencer3 | heh | 13:46 |
rickspencer3 | I went to Bethany Beach Delaware to visit my parents, they live at the beach/shore/seaside | 13:47 |
chrisccoulson | cool, so you're nice and refreshed for work now then ;) | 13:48 |
rickspencer3 | yeah, I think I'll need the refreshment :) | 13:48 |
kenvandif | hey rickspencer3 | 13:59 |
rickspencer3 | hi kenvandif | 14:00 |
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* kenvandine is wading through 2000+ unread emails from being gone just a few days | 14:00 | |
asac | so how can one disable compiz forever? without touching gconf? | 14:00 |
asac | any config file? | 14:00 |
kenvandine | remove it :) | 14:01 |
asac | kenvandine: nah. i want to just disable it for one run ;) | 14:02 |
kenvandine | mv /usr/bin/compiz.real /usr/bin/compiz.real.disabled :) | 14:02 |
kenvandine | the wrapper script should not even try if it doesn't exist | 14:03 |
kenvandine | rickspencer3, have a good vacation i hope? | 14:05 |
rickspencer3 | kenvandine: sort of, yes | 14:05 |
rickspencer3 | the vacation was good, but the timing wasn't so great | 14:05 |
Laney | asac: it's in the appearence properties under visual effects | 14:06 |
kenvandine | rickspencer3, so you went to delaware? | 14:06 |
* kenvandine was in PA, right on the delaware river | 14:06 | |
rickspencer3 | heh | 14:06 |
rickspencer3 | kenvandine: yes, Bethany Beach, home the righteous sunburn | 14:07 |
kenvandine | hehe | 14:07 |
kenvandine | so i guess you got fried | 14:08 |
rickspencer3 | kenvandine: yes, I didn't do my back one day, the sun is so much stronger than in Seattle, I forgot what it can do to you | 14:09 |
* rickspencer3 reaches for back scratcher | 14:09 | |
kenvandine | we did lots of swimming in the river, and it was always shady... which i am always thankful for | 14:09 |
asac | Laney: but thats gconf ;) | 14:12 |
Laney | oh | 14:13 |
Laney | I thought you meant directly manipulating it | 14:13 |
rickspencer3 | asac: ArneGoetje kenvandine ccheney pedro_ Riddell we'll skip the team meeting today I presume? | 14:18 |
asac | yeah | 14:18 |
asac | thanks a lot ;) | 14:18 |
Riddell | rickspencer3: why's that? | 14:18 |
rickspencer3 | but activity reports would be quite useful | 14:18 |
asac | rickspencer3: we could encourage anyone to add the stuff to wiki though | 14:18 |
asac | so we can send out | 14:18 |
asac | ack | 14:18 |
asac | rickspencer3: can you setup the wiki page for today? | 14:18 |
rickspencer3 | Riddell: because many of us are on holiday, and I just got back, etc... | 14:19 |
* asac looks ... maybe its already there | 14:19 | |
asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-08-18 | 14:19 |
asac | setup | 14:19 |
asac | hehe. even the template has a syntax bug ;) see Tony Espy's section | 14:20 |
rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-08-18 | 14:20 |
rickspencer3 | asac: it's a wiki, you can fix it ;) | 14:21 |
asac | i was trying to, but didnt find the template easily ... | 14:21 |
* asac checks one more time | 14:21 | |
asac | we have DesktopTeam/Meeting/Template and DesktopTeam/MeetingTemplate | 14:22 |
asac | which one do we want to keep? | 14:22 |
rickspencer3 | awac, I fixed the template | 14:22 |
rickspencer3 | but for the record : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/MeetingTemplate | 14:22 |
asac | ok. i will delete the other then i guess | 14:22 |
asac | done | 14:23 |
pedro_ | rickspencer3, sure, thats ok for me | 14:34 |
kenvandine | rickspencer3, that works for me... i have quite a bit of catch up to do | 14:35 |
mvo | woah, dbus restart -> kills gdm - impressive | 15:00 |
kenvandine | mvo, not cool! | 15:03 |
mclasen | dbus restarts are overrated | 15:09 |
mvo | :) | 15:09 |
mclasen | gotta get dbus in the kernel to kill that idea off for good... | 15:09 |
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rodrigo_ | Riddell: did you upload evo-couchdb? it seems to not be in the archive yet? | 16:14 |
Riddell | rodrigo_: seems I failed to do so, uploaded now | 16:16 |
rodrigo_ | Riddell: ok, thanks! | 16:16 |
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albasheers | hello everyone | 17:07 |
albasheers | which is the tom theme for linux | 17:08 |
albasheers | which is the best theme for ubuntu 8.10 | 17:09 |
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bryce | morning | 17:28 |
rickspencer3 | hiya bryce | 17:28 |
awe | hey guys! | 17:29 |
rickspencer3 | no team meeting today | 17:29 |
rickspencer3 | but please send me your activity report, or add to the wiki | 17:29 |
bryce | rickspencer3, ah ok | 17:29 |
bryce | hope you had a good vacation, rickspencer3? | 17:29 |
awe | +1 | 17:29 |
rickspencer3 | it was good, and I have the sunburn to prove it | 17:30 |
tedg | Hey bryce, my FDI file for setting my touchpad settings doesn't seem to work in Karmic. Is there a new way to do that? | 17:30 |
bryce | tedg, should still work the same afaik | 17:30 |
bryce | tedg, perhaps tjaalton knows some techniques | 17:31 |
tedg | bryce: Okay, I'll poke around and see if I can find something. Perhaps a string changed somewhere. | 17:31 |
bryce | tedg, some stuff can be set via xinput now, so you could try that too | 17:31 |
tedg | Hmm, xinput. That's likely to just get me into trouble :) | 17:31 |
mac_v | tedg: what touchpad settings are you looking for? | 17:34 |
tedg | mac_v: A few of them: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eted/%2Bjunk/macbook-pro-fdi/annotate/head%3A/10_synaptics_touchpad.fdi | 17:35 |
mac_v | tedg: install gpointing-device-settings , most of the options you want can be set using that | 17:37 |
mac_v | tedg: or if you want to set it manually, in gconf> /desktop/gnome/peripherals | 17:39 |
tedg | Oh, that's evil. No Gconf schemas... It just creates the values on the fly. | 17:41 |
tedg | Hmm, so I can get scrolling working. But not tapping. | 17:49 |
tedg | Neither right nor left click. | 17:49 |
rickspencer3 | kenvandine: have we already switched to gnome-scan> | 18:03 |
rickspencer3 | ? | 18:03 |
kenvandine | rickspencer3, no... pitti wanted to wait until he returned | 18:13 |
dobey | james_w: around still? | 18:40 |
james_w | hi dobey | 18:40 |
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dobey | james_w: hi, just had a quick question of whether something would be considered a feature or a bug, since feature freeze is next week, and it's something i'd really like to get in u1, but not sure if we have time | 18:41 |
dobey | james_w: but right now we don't support proxies fully... would lack of proxy support be a bug, or would adding full support be considered a feature? | 18:42 |
james_w | it can be argued either way | 18:42 |
james_w | if it's a small change then it sounds like the kind of thing that could get in next month either way you argue it | 18:43 |
dobey | right. which is why i wanted to get a more definite answer from ubuntu developers :) | 18:43 |
james_w | if not then the sooner the better either way | 18:43 |
mac_v | tedg: for the tap to work , you have to activate it from the gconf , there is a bug about that | 18:43 |
james_w | I'm not on the release team, so I can't give you an definitive answer, sorry | 18:43 |
dobey | i think the change would not exactly be small | 18:43 |
dobey | since we have our own protocol built with google protobuf | 18:44 |
dobey | and we'd have to change that code | 18:44 |
dobey | james_w: thanks :) | 18:48 |
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andreasn_ | asac, is there any PPA:s with Thunderbird Beta3 around? | 21:25 |
asac | andreasn_: daily, but not the milestone | 21:33 |
andreasn_ | asac, ok, thanks | 21:35 |
dael99 | need somebody to make a review | 22:39 |
dael99 | watch this and tell me what you think | 22:40 |
dael99 | wiki.ubuntu.com/Vbar | 22:40 |
dael99 | VBar | 22:40 |
dael99 | and the review??? | 22:50 |
dael99 | maybe i'll start bothering someone.... | 22:50 |
dael99 | can i contact here the Visions Team??? | 22:55 |
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dael_99 | anyone???????? | 23:19 |
dael_99 | never mind. | 23:19 |
dael_99 | wiki.ubuntu.com/VBar | 23:19 |
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