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daurnjbernard__, ping?00:46
jbernard__daurn: yep00:51
daurnjbernard__, i don't understand revu, but the latest diff looks like its created errors?00:52
jbernard__daurn: which diff are you referring to? lua-iconv?00:52
daurnya00:52
jbernard__hang on, lemme check00:53
daurnhttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/report.py/diff?upid1=6660&upid2=665700:53
jbernard__that diff looks good to me, which part is concering?00:54
james_wjbernard__: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua-iconv is already available if you would like to subscribe to the bugs for the package00:55
daurnall the warnnings/notices in the revu look like they're created in that diff to me?00:55
jbernard__the only warning refers to no debian/watch file or get-orig-source target, that I see00:57
jbernard__james_w: awesome, thanks00:57
daurnjbernard__, "Package is for "unstable" but only packages for "karmic" are currently accepted. " and "The changelog does not close a bug from Launchpad. New packages should have a needs-packaging bug and the upload close it using the syntax "(LP: #nnnn)". "01:00
jbernard__ahh01:01
jbernard__that was an early upload01:01
jbernard__i fixed that shortly after01:01
daurnand my point is the latest diff looked like it un-fixed it to me (it changed back to unstable from karmic, and to changed it from LP: top Closed:01:02
daurns/top/to/01:02
jbernard__so the diff that I'm seeing from the main page: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/lua-iconv-0908172306/lua-iconv_6-0ubuntu1.diff01:04
jbernard__i do agree that the diff you've got looks a bit odd01:04
daurndon't worryu01:05
daurnI fiigured it out01:05
james_wdaurn: I think you are looking at an earlier version, and so the diff is backwards01:05
daurnI just didn't understand revu01:05
daurnjames_w, yeah >.<01:05
james_wno worries then :-)01:06
daurni don't even know what it means, but why doesn't it have the get-orig-source thing?01:06
daurnbtw, will it get pushed upstream to debian?01:07
jbernard__ahh, the lua hosting site creates a new (and random) url for each new release tarball01:07
jbernard__daurn: yep, it's waiting in the NEW queue at the moment01:08
daurnok01:08
jbernard__i don't have an easy solution for that, if anyone's got one, though, I'm all ears01:09
daurnjbernard__, care to look into another, much much larger request for packaging me?01:09
jbernard__daurn: i can at least take a look..01:09
daurni haven't even made a needs-packaging bug yet as it  might seem like too much01:09
daurnjbernard__, http://oproj.tuxfamily.org/wiki/doku.php?id=lgob01:10
daurnI don't know if you can work from an AUR package?01:13
daurnbut theres one here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2557001:13
jbernard__there's a 'Sources' link that has a tarball, so that's probably where I would start01:13
daurnok, well, I've gotta head off now01:14
daurnbut thanks for doing iconv01:14
jbernard__sure, file the needs-packaging bug and I'll see if i can get to it01:14
jbernard__no problem01:14
daurnmeans lgob is the only dep left for my app that has no package01:15
daurn:)01:15
daurncya01:17
rowinggolferhi folks.01:33
rowinggolfercan anyone point me to a howto on where to put my .desktop file?01:33
rowinggolferI am trawling the web with no joy.01:33
rowinggolferproject is http://launchpad01:35
rowinggolferhttps://launchpad.net/~rowinggolfer/+archive/ppa01:35
rowinggolferI have a working deb, but need to get desktop integration.01:36
rowinggolferthis is a pure python app, using disutils01:36
rowinggolferno worries - found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PythonRecipes/DebianPackage01:41
kklimondais there an official way of getting diff between orig and dfsg tarballs? or somewhere where I can see a list of changes?02:13
directhexkklimonda, it ought to be documented in README.source02:14
directhexor failing thst the packager should have a get-orig-source rule which does it02:15
kklimondadirecthex: thanks.02:18
EagleScreenshould debootstrap 1.0.15 from Debian unstable know about karmic release?04:00
ipatrolHello?04:54
EagleScreenmany few people at this time04:55
ipatroldevel sent me here04:55
EagleScreenvisit the links on the top, ipatrol04:55
ipatrolyes04:57
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dholbachgood morning06:55
porthosedholbach, good morning :)07:14
porthosewould a kind MOTU please ACK Bug #415102.  :)07:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 415102 in ubuntu "Sync upnp-inspector 0.2.2+dfsg-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41510207:16
dholbachporthose: taking a look07:16
slytherindholbach: ping07:19
porthosedholbach, ty :)07:20
dholbachslytherin: pong07:21
slytherindholbach: Sorry, I couldn't respond to the mail till now. Have been busy with other tasks.07:21
dholbachslytherin: no worries - just follow up on it when you have the time - I'll keep nagging you ;-)07:22
slytherinasac: I tried updating obexd yesterday. It was simple 'get new source and build'. I couldn't actually test it. It seems my phone's bluetooth support is broken.07:27
porthosedholbach, ty :)07:31
dholbachno worries07:31
* porthose huges dholbach07:32
* dholbach hugs porthose back :)07:32
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* quadrispro hugs all08:18
* quadrispro asks if everyone has some time to spend in a REView08:18
* quadrispro oops, s/everyone/anyone08:22
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slytherinttx: Any ides why ant-optional is not getting installed, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30455994/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-ia64.java3d_1.5.2%2Bdfsg-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:29
ttxslytherin: yes.10:29
ttxlet me fix that.10:30
slytherinwhat is the issue?10:30
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ttxslytherin: basically I moved libxerces2-java to build "any" so that it can have spearate recommends on -gcj based on  arch10:31
slytherinRight you told me.10:31
ttxhowever libxerces2-java fails to build, since it build depends on itself.10:31
slytherinhe he10:31
ttxwell, it depends on ant10:31
ttxwhich depends on libxerces2-java10:31
ttxso... I'll just move it back to arch:all and suggest the -gcj stuff10:32
slytherinLet me know when you fix it. :-)10:32
slytherinasac: Not sure if you know this already. There is a bluetooth plugin in network-manager (in karmic). From build logs it looks like the plugin is getting built but it is not installed anywhere.10:33
ttxslytherin: as soon as i'm done with my sponsoring task.10:33
slytherinTake you time. Anytime before weekend.10:33
ttxit's blocking most java builds on ia64/armel/sparc.10:34
ttxso I'll fix it now.10:34
asaclet me check10:43
asacslytherin: you mean on applet side?10:46
slytherinasac: no, I mean the core code.10:46
asacslytherin: on the daemon side there is no plugin ... its directly linked into the main binary and in libnm-util10:48
asacbut i think you are right. the applet needs libgnome-bluetooth build depends and also ensure that the plugin gets installed to right place10:48
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slytherinasac: I misunderstood the build log of daemon then.10:50
juli__slytherin, Hi! It looks like sf.net still have problem:( so I checked my corrections manually. Should I upload cobertura on REVU again?10:53
slytherinjuli__: Upload it somewhere so that I can review.10:53
juli__slytherin, ok I'll upload on REVU soon10:54
juli__slytherin, done: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cobertura11:01
slytheringive me some time, busy with office task.11:06
asacslytherin: ok so https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk will have it tonight11:08
asacupload will happen in two days or so11:08
juli__slytherin, ok, no problem:) Thank you!11:13
Hewfteqcc "failed to upload", what can be done about this?11:39
pochuwhat was the way to create a tarball with the same hash? -m option to tar?11:39
geserHew: bug in LP, let me find the bug number11:40
Laneypochu: tar --mtime=@011:40
Laneyand then gzip -9fn11:41
pochuLaney: that's it, thanks!11:41
juanjedholbach: Hi, have you some time?11:42
Hewgeser, would it be bug 408528?11:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408528 in launchpad-foundations "lucene2 synced from Debian, built fine but failed to upload" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40852811:43
geserHew: yes11:43
Hewthanks for the info geser, at least it's not a problem with fteqcc itself :-)11:44
juanjedholbach: well, when you can... I did change the stuff you told me the other day on the http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/nautilus-md5sum package. Please, have a look at it when you can. Thanks ;-)11:44
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gilircan someone change my status on REVU ? I can't review any package11:52
juanjeif someone is up for reviewing, I got two packages just cleaned up which need a review: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/nautilus-md5sum  and  http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/mount-systray  ;-)11:57
juanjethanks in advance11:57
juanje:-)11:57
slytherinjuanje: Does the md5sum extension work only for ISO files?12:14
pochuLaney: I get this:12:17
pochuE: scribes: package-contains-ancient-file usr/share/doc/scribes/TODO 1970-01-0112:17
pochuE: scribes: package-contains-ancient-file usr/share/doc/scribes/changelog.gz 1970-01-0112:17
pochuI: scribes source: tar-errors-from-source scribes-0.4~r473/intltool-update: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 00:00:0012:17
pochuI: scribes source: tar-errors-from-source scribes-0.4~r473/intltool-merge.in: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 00:00:0012:17
Laneyyeah12:17
pochuLaney: seems to be because of --mtime=@012:18
Laneyyou can change @0 to something else if you want12:18
pochuLaney: something arbitrary?12:18
Laneysomething more recent12:18
LaneyI'd be tempted to ignore or override it though12:18
Laneyor you could somehow retrieve the timestamp of the downloaded tarball and use that12:20
sistpoty|workgilir: done12:23
pochuit's a bzr export12:23
pochuand seems to be changing the timestamps with every export12:24
Laneywell you could always be clever with commit timestamps or something12:25
LaneyI'm not sure that it's worth the effort12:25
juanjeSylphid: I'm really sure, I just fix some stuff at teh package12:25
juanjeups12:25
juanjeslytherin: the message was for you12:25
juanjeslytherin: I can ask to who did it, but I think that, by now, it just work for iso files12:26
slytherinjuanje: what I meant was , does it not work for other file types?12:26
juanjeslytherin: I think not. At least, not in this version12:27
slytherinttx: LOL. Now you have more problems related to libxerces2-java. :-P12:29
slytherinlibxerces2-java itself is failing to build.12:29
ttxslytherin: nah, just a timing issue :)12:29
slytherinoh12:30
ttxthe all package was not published yet for those to use it12:30
ttxI'm retrying them now12:30
Laneywhoops12:45
LaneyI totally forgot to reply to that archive reorg mail12:45
* Laney does it Right Now12:46
hyperairwhat archive reorg mail?12:48
Laneyhyperair: secret mail to developers12:49
DktrKranzhyperair: MOTUs were asked which kind of upload privileges they want after archive-reorg12:49
LaneyHow to organise hyperair into the cupboard and only let him out for feeding12:49
hyperairah i see12:49
* hyperair forces Laney into a cupboard and tosses a donut in12:50
Laneyfirst toss, then no forcing required12:50
Laneynomnom12:50
DktrKranzand obviously secret plans for hyperair to pay ice cream to MOTUs12:50
hyperairhaha12:50
gilirsistpoty|work: thanks :)12:51
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Laneymy laptop is so screwed12:59
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directhexLaney, unscrew it!13:11
LaneyI think it would involve a reinstall13:11
Laneydamn osx13:11
Laneymaybe Karmic will work well on it now :O13:11
directhexmy office pc died :(13:12
Laneyhardware?13:12
directhexLaney, clunky disk13:12
Laneyat least applecare is decent13:12
directhexit's intensely slow. unless you take it to your nearest aplpe premium partner under applecare, and add some middleman for speed13:13
LaneyI took it in on Thursday and got it back on Monday for a new hard disk13:14
Laneywas reasonable enough13:14
directhexmy machine's in bristol right now13:15
Laneyorly13:15
ttxslytherin: the build issue with libxerces2-java on ia64/sparc/armel should be gone now.14:06
directhexyays!14:10
alkisgHow could I put a repository into a CD? Like, when I insert the ubuntu alternate CD, when I get prompted to install packages from it?14:21
slytherinttx: thanks. Let me try rebuilding the packages that were failing for me.14:22
slytherinalkisg: you might want to try aptoncd.14:22
alkisgslytherin: I think that doesn't use the same method like the ubuntu alternate cd, i.e. the end user needs aptoncd to install the packages14:23
slytherinalkisg: Then probably it is the update-manager that handles alternate CD specially.14:24
alkisgI think so, yeah. I'm looking for information on what to put to the CD so that update-manager can handle it14:24
alkisgI tried putting the dist/ and pool/ folders from my repository, but it didn't work...14:24
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slicerCan someone give me access to bug 407848 so I can close it? :) I have access to 412873 but that's a duplicate of the original, so I can't change its state.14:37
ubottuBug 407848 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/407848 is private14:37
Laneyslicer: try now14:38
slicerLaney: Thanks :)14:39
slicerLaney: BTW, how come I didn't have access to it originally? I thought I had access to all bugs against my package?14:40
Laneyslicer: Private bugs are visible to their subscribers only14:40
slicerLaney: Ah. So I won't be notified until someone on the bug squad makes it public?14:41
Laneyright14:41
Laneyof course you could join bug control yourself...14:41
slicerLaney: Would that be appropriate when I'm really only interested in bug reports for 2-3 packages?14:42
LaneyI don't think that matters14:42
slicerLaney: In that case.. *goes to google*14:42
Laneybut ask bdmurray14:42
slicerbdmurray: Is it appropriate to join bug control when I'm really only interested in bug reports for "my" packages?14:44
Laneyimho we are short of triagers for universe packages, and want people with a special interest14:44
slicerWell, the original bug report was 12 days old when the duplicate was filed; I never saw the original, or I'd have the fix commited 2 weeks ago ;)14:46
slytherinslicer: have you subscribed to the bug mail for your packages?14:47
Laneygo for it14:47
slicerslytherin: I get email for all other bug reports, but apparantly not private ones.14:47
slytherinhmm14:48
slytheringot to go, see you all later.14:48
slicerAh, there's even a "way to join" for upstream developers. Perfect :)14:50
mzzso (still assuming you let me ask packaging questions here even if they're not directly motu-related) I'm still trying to find the best tools to use for actual building. I really want to like sbuild/schroot's lvm-snapshot support, but I can't find a way to not reinstall all the source deps for every build conveniently.15:03
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mzzis there some trick I'm overlooking? I'd expect there to be a way to snapshot the master image with the source deps installed, so they don't have to be refetched for every build attempt15:03
mzzI think I can actually do that by hand, but if it was a reasonable thing to do I'd expect it to be easier :)15:05
mathiazmzz: I'd suggest to use a local apt cache so that packages don't need to be refetched from the network15:07
mzzmathiaz: oh, the network fetch isn't an issue, it's the time needed to actually install a few 100 source dependencies.15:07
mathiazmzz: I wouldn't recommend to leave all the dependencies in the pristine chroot15:08
mzzyeah, that wouldn't be good.15:08
mzzbut couldn't I make a snapshot of that pristine chroot, then install the dependencies, then have sbuild make another snapshot of that snapshot?15:08
mathiazmzz: if you leave dependency in the source chroot then you may miss some of them in your build-dep15:08
mathiazmzz: and then the build would fail on the buildd15:08
mzzthis is true.15:08
mathiazmzz: another solution is to have two chroots15:09
mathiazmzz: a minimal one and another one with all the build deps always installed15:09
mzzI understand why sbuild goes out of its way to use a clean build environment, and I think that's a really good thing. But I *also* want a way to build a package more quickly while I'm still tinkering with the packaging.15:09
mzzyes, and I think I could do that second chroot via a snapshot of the first15:10
mathiazmzz: you could just create a second chroot and install all the build dep in the source chroots15:10
mathiazmzz: if you use schroot+lvm, you can enter the source chroot with: schroot -c karmic-source -u root15:11
mathiazmzz: you just append -source to the name of the chroot15:11
mathiazmzz: everything you installed in the -source chroot will be kept afterwards15:11
mzzI think I'll just create a snapshot of my jaunty_chroot lv, install the source deps in there, install dependencies (as indicated above :), get the package working right, then roll jaunty_chroot back to the snapshot (still have to look up the right lvm incantation for that)15:12
mathiazmzz: does lvm support snapshots of snapshots?15:12
mzzlet's find out!15:12
c_kornhow do I tell cdbs to run autoreconf at the beginning ? google pointed me to a cdbs patch which never got into ubuntu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-December/026954.html15:13
mathiazc_korn: you can use the makebuilddir target15:15
mzz(so far this really is me tinkering for personal use, but I'll probably end up building a few things that should go into a ppa at least)15:15
mathiazc_korn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255153/15:16
c_kornmathiaz: thanks15:17
EagleScreenhello15:24
EagleScreeni am trying to build some ubuntu packages in my Debian system, but i have problems: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255159/15:24
sistpoty|workEagleScreen: I assume you should use --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com as an argument to pbuilder (or some such)15:27
mzzmathiaz: my other plan was to use schroot's session support, but I haven't manage to trick sbuild into using an existing session yet15:28
EagleScreenyes i am using de.archive.uubntu.com15:28
EagleScreenbut well spelled lol15:29
virtualddo you have ubuntu-keyring installed?15:29
EagleScreeni have found a workaround, adding --allow-unauthenticated to debootstrapopts15:29
EagleScreenshall i install it in host system or in chroot?15:30
virtualdno idea15:30
mathiazmzz: I'd suggest to create two chroots (ie have two lvs) and put all the build dep in one them15:30
mathiazmzz: you can always get rid of the latter when you've finished testing your packakge15:30
mathiazmzz: building a chroot is a matter of minutes15:30
mzzmathiaz: yes, but the set of build deps won't be the same all the time (I'm not building the same package all the time) so I'd have to blow that chroot away again frequently. Just basing it off the perfectly decent chroot I already have seems reasonable.15:30
* mzz is picky15:31
mzzalso, assuming lvm actually supports stacking snapshots like this it'll be pretty easy.15:31
* mzz tries.15:31
mathiazmzz: sure - if lvm supports snapshots of snapshots15:31
mathiazmzz: otherwise you can just dd the minimal chroot when creating a new one15:32
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mzz:( "Snapshots of snapshots are not supported yet."15:33
mzzand it was such a good plan! Let's see if I can find an eta for this15:33
bddebianHeya gang15:38
EagleScreeni have installed uubntu-keyring due to the pbuilder problem here http://paste.ubuntu.com/255159/15:44
EagleScreenthis is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/255172/15:44
EagleScreenany mention to ubuntu?15:44
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EagleScreencdebootstrap 0.5.5 and debootstrap 1.0.15 (Debian unstable) don't know about jaunty and karmic suits16:03
alkisgI have a repository with educational apps, how can I put them in a DVD so that update-manager would be able to read the packages from it?16:04
hggdhc.f. bug 415435 -- what is the S.O.P. for licence mismatch (packages states GPLV2+, source states GPLV3+)?16:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 415435 in gnubik "gnubik is GPLv3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41543516:59
Laneyhggdh: Forward it to Debian please17:00
Laneythe package is on sync17:00
Laneyin17:00
hggdhyes, I was unsure. Will do, manually, since reportbug seems to like to sigsegv on me. thanks, Laney17:01
qnixwhat's the site for *-security packages ?17:18
keesqnix: do you mean security.ubuntu.com?17:20
qnixI mean something like packages.ubuntu.com17:21
qnixbut for the packages in *-security repos17:22
keesqnix: normally i just use launchpad directly.  which package do you want details on?17:22
kees(I thought packages.ubuntu.com contained -security too, but it lags a bit)17:22
qnixI would like to see if a security patch I've made is in the repository and available17:23
keesqnix: which package?17:24
ryanakcalook at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packagename>/  ... might see something in the changelog17:24
qnixseems that the url of ryanakca do the job. but my patch is not yet available.17:25
qnixthanks17:25
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j^happyaron, was anything specific not ok with the package i updated at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/oggvideotools18:02
happyaronj^: not really, but the project maintainer of gmchess asked me to do that18:02
happyaronj^: oh, sorry18:03
happyaronget mistaken on project18:03
j^i uploaded a version based on cdbs, you another version, was just wondering18:03
happyaronj^: That's a mis-doing on oggvideotools, but didn't have time to ask you, so sorry18:04
j^i dont care one way or the other, as long as it gets into 9.1018:04
happyaronj^: I didn't see anyone replied on that bug18:04
happyaronj^: if you could maintain it that's better, the day before yesterday a friend ask me to help him maintain package for his project18:05
happyaronbut his project still needs lots of work, i am also considering how to deal with that oggvideotools,:)18:06
happyaronj^: you could re-upload to replace mine18:07
j^right now i can not upload packages to universe, so i would depend on someone else doing that, i am willing to update it as new version of oggvideotools come out18:07
j^happyaron, can you upload to universe?18:08
happyaronj^: I am also not a MOTU, either18:09
happyaronj^: no, I cannot18:10
j^ok will push my version again, i think it a bit cleaner and has a working debian/watch file18:10
happyaronj^: that's good18:11
mzzanother stupid sbuild question: I can see in the logs a .ddeb was built, but it's not copied out of the chroot. Any way I can change that?18:22
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jtimbermanmathiaz: I pushed a new upload for merb.18:40
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mathiazjtimberman: great - I'm reviewing the other packages18:57
jtimbermanmathiaz: thanks!18:58
mathiazjtimberman: IIRC libsyntax-ruby   is the only package that does *not* to be reviewed on REVU?19:01
mathiazjtimberman: IIRC libsyntax-ruby   is the only package that does *not* need to be reviewed on REVU?19:01
jtimbermanmathiaz: correct, libsyntax-ruby is deprecated in chef for coderay.19:01
jtimbermancoderay/libcoderay-ruby19:01
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mathiazjtimberman: libsystemu-ruby is already in debian19:49
jtimbermanmathiaz: that happened over the weekend.19:49
mathiazjtimberman: great - I've filed a sync request for ubuntu19:50
jtimbermanmathiaz: awesome, thanks!19:50
jtimbermani saw notices that the mixlibs were synced19:50
jtimbermanoh, and merb is MIT license.. updating the man pages and other bits.19:51
jtimbermanthe installedfiles and .configs were there from when i built the actual .debs for my testing repo :)19:51
jtimbermanmathiaz: new upload for merb (two uploads, consider the second, i didn't verify the lsdiff output before uploading the first)20:06
mathiazjtimberman: ok - I'll review that after stompserver20:10
jtimbermanthanks!20:10
mathiazjtimberman: IIUC stompserver doesn't provide an upstream release tarball?20:11
mathiazjtimberman: and this why the package is native?20:11
mathiazjtimberman: hm - no it seems that there is an upstream tarball20:12
mathiazjtimberman:      stompserver-0.9.9.tgz20:12
jtimbermanmathiaz: Not entirely sure, I adapted the package btm was working on for Debian.20:13
jtimbermanstompserver isn't even in Debian NEW yet per the ITP20:14
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jtimbermanmathiaz: coderay re-uploaded w/ changes.20:25
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mathiazjtimberman: send feedback on stompserver - that one may require more work20:43
jtimbermanmathiaz: ok20:44
mathiazjtimberman: let me know if you have any question on the comments I made20:44
jtimbermanmathiaz: i'm making a couple changes to chef based on what you've looked at for other packages (man page license stuff, copyright, uploaders, etc)20:44
jtimbermangoing to finish that and re-upload chef in a few.20:44
jtimbermanthen i'll take a look at stompserver20:44
mathiazjtimberman: right - I haven't looked at chef yet20:44
mathiazjtimberman: I'll go through the other package first (merb, stompserver, coderay)20:45
mathiazjtimberman: and then start looking at chef20:45
jtimbermank20:45
jtimbermanmathiaz: does the patch tagging recognize "DebianSpecific" as well?20:53
jtimbermanor just UbuntuSpecific20:53
mathiazjtimberman: I don't think DebianSpecific is recognized20:55
jtimbermanokay.20:55
mathiazjtimberman: you can see the Debian Patch tagging guidline in DEP320:56
mathiazjtimberman: however dep.debian.net is offline for now20:56
mathiazjtimberman: google for "debian dep3" and you'll be able to retrieve a cached copy20:57
jtimbermancame up for me.20:57
jtimberman:)20:57
mathiazjtimberman: dep.debian.net?20:57
jtimbermanhttp://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/20:58
mathiazjtimberman: hm - interesting20:58
mathiazjtimberman: anyway there doesn't seem to have a DebianSpecific tag.20:58
jtimbermanmathiaz: can i have 'daemonuser' be 'daemon', which already exists?21:01
jtimbermanor does it have to be a user named after the package/service21:01
mathiazjtimberman: better to have user named after the service21:02
jtimbermank21:05
mathiazjtimberman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255351/21:09
mathiazjtimberman: ^^ this is some code to create a system user that needs to be added to the postinst script21:09
jtimbermangotcha.21:09
jtimbermanso i try to set the log directory in the stompserver config file, and it wants to make it /var/lib/stompserver/var/log/stompserver .. i know FHS discourages logging to /var/lib, but this seems to be a limitation in the stompserver code itself.21:10
mathiazjtimberman: and you also need to delete user on purge (in the postrm script)21:10
jtimbermanwill do21:10
mathiazjtimberman: could symlink /var/log/stompserver to /var/lib/stompserver/log/ ?21:11
mathiazjtimberman: apache2 does something similar21:11
jtimbermanegh, it puts the pid file in there too.21:13
mathiazjtimberman: hm - how easy would it be to patch the code to do the right thing?21:15
jtimbermanmathiaz: that i don't know, i've not looked at the stompserver internals.21:15
mathiazjtimberman: it seems that it just takes /var/lib/stompserver as the base directory21:16
jtimbermanwell thats in the config file.21:16
mathiazjtimberman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255358/21:17
mathiazjtimberman: in lib/stomp_server.rb21:17
jtimbermanoh geez. thats silly.21:17
mathiazjtimberman: could a logdir and pidfile options be added?21:19
stochasticcan any kind motu with a free minute take a loot at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid ?21:26
james_wstochastic: are you on karmic?21:55
stochasticjames_w, I have a karmic boot, yes21:55
james_ware you logged in to it now?21:55
stochasticnope not right now21:55
james_wok21:56
stochasticwhy?21:56
james_whttp://paste.ubuntu.com/255382/21:56
stochasticahh, yes, someone told me that 3.8.2 was the latest standards version and packages should be updated to that, so that's what I did21:58
james_wplus, you don't need to list all the files that are under the dominant license, just list the exceptions21:58
stochasticokay, I just wanted clarity on the matter, shall I create a new upload?21:59
james_wsure22:00
james_wadvocated22:00
* james_w goes back to coding22:01
stochasticjames_w: thanks22:02
binarymutantwill the Dev Week schedule be put into the Fridge's calendar?22:12
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