[00:12] <MythbuntuGuest79> How can I check it my capture card is working ? I have an Asus PVR416 I can see video and I know that my audio works cause I can play DVD's mp3's etc but TV there is nothing
[01:52] <MythbuntuGuest37> seems like latest build broke vdpau live tv
[01:52] <MythbuntuGuest37> was working fine with the previous
[01:54] <MythbuntuGuest37> either a settings page or some blocky broken textures like old stuff in video card ram
[01:54] <MythbuntuGuest37> just vdpau
[01:56] <MythbuntuGuest37> same as here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/392395
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest37> recorded stuff plays fine with vdpau, just livetv exhibits this
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest37> 0.21.0+trunk21261-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu3
[01:58] <MythbuntuGuest37> shame, last build finally fixed livetv hdpvr for me
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[03:52] <ryan__> Trying to install latest trunk build.  Not sure where I'm going wrong.  I install a fresh copy of mythbuntu 9.04 32-bit.   remove all myth* packages, do update/upgrade and then sudo apt-get install mythtv
[03:54] <ryan__> mythfrontend begins to load, I'm seeing Err - udevinfo failed to start and various theme errors
[03:54] <ryan__> oh yeah, install mythbuntu-repos package after removing myth packages
[03:55] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest37, well does that workaround work at least maybe?
[06:00] <orificium> I have mythbuntu 9.04 installed, installed mythbuntu repos package, set to -trunk PPA testing and ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, rebooted, now what?
[06:03] <tgm4883> orificium, uh, now your done?
[06:09] <orificium> hm
[06:09] <orificium> but it hasn't updated any of the mythtv packages
[06:10] <orificium> there are still uprades available.
[06:10] <orificium> sudo apt-get upgrade says "the following packages have been kept back"
[06:11] <orificium> and lists the mythtv packages
[06:11] <orificium> dist-upgrade ays mythcontrol will be removed, and qt4 packages ill be added, mthtv will be updated
[06:12] <orificium> but either option leads to the mythbackend not starting any more
[06:15] <orificium> the same issue described here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7011972&postcount=56
[06:16] <superm1> it's normal that mythcontrols is removed
[06:16] <superm1> and qt4 is added
[06:17] <superm1> just try removing mytharchive before you get started if you are hitting that
[06:20] <orificium> superm1: mytharchive and mytharchive-data are part of what its upgrading.  Are you saying I shold remove those immediately after its done upgrading the rest of the packages?
[06:20] <orificium> I also see it upgrading the older themes I suppose that is normal?
[06:21] <superm1> orificium, you might want to remove it to do the upgrade and add it back in
[06:21] <superm1> after your done with the upgrade
[06:21] <superm1> upgrading themes is normal
[06:23] <orificium> what else will I need to do as part of the upgrade?
[06:24] <orificium> besides running apt-get dist-upgrade now
[06:25] <superm1> that should be it
[06:25] <superm1> everything else should be pretty automatic
[06:25] <superm1> surprised that mytharchive thing is still coming up though. i thought that we fixed that in packaging
[06:46] <orificium> got the following error: Setting up mythtv-database (0.21.0+trunk21261-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu3) ...
[06:46] <orificium> Failed to connect to database (incorrect admin password)
[06:47] <orificium> and: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[06:47] <orificium> during sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[06:49] <orificium> mythfrontend fails to load with several errors mentioning udevinfo failed to sart
[06:50] <orificium> and missing themeinfo.xml
[06:51] <orificium> this is the fourth time I believe I've tried this in several different orders all with the same result
[06:55] <orificium> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/mb215834
[06:57] <orificium> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d20533dc0
[07:07] <superm1> orificium, that's not actually an error if you have an existing DB
[07:07] <superm1> (the first one)
[07:07] <superm1> as for the second, you need to reset your theme to GANT
[07:07] <superm1> it's because the mythbuntu 8.04-9.04 theme doesn't work with trunk
[07:19] <orificium> superm1: how do reset it to GANT?
[07:21] <orificium> "mythfrontend -r" did the trick
[07:26] <superm1> orificium, as for those udevinfo errors, i just submitted a patch upstream for that
[07:26] <superm1> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6866
[07:27] <orificium> what do that mean?
[07:28] <orificium> *does
[07:29] <superm1> if upstream accepts my patch, next week's build shouldn't have any problems in the log about udevinfo
[07:29] <superm1> it's going to possibly stop DVD detection from working until it's fixed
[11:47] <sebrock> I have a headless backend and need to run mythtv-setup on that, I installed a vncserver but all I get when connecting is an empty window and mouse. Cant even start a terminal. What o I need?
[14:23] <Essobi_> morning.
[14:39] <sebrock> nevermind fixed it
[14:39] <sebrock> is mythweather broken again?
[14:42] <superm1> in which release?
[14:43] <sebrock> just taken from repo
[14:43] <superm1> i understand that.  what release
[14:43] <superm1> 9.04/9.10
[14:44] <superm1> upstream 0.21/trunk
[14:44] <sebrock> err, this is a backend clean install om Jaunty. So obviously some manual work needs to be done
[14:44] <sebrock> stable
[14:44] <sebrock> 9.04
[14:44] <superm1> i wasn't aware it was broke at all for jaunty
[14:44] <superm1> run from a terminal and take a look at output
[14:44] <sebrock> well, it is the satellite image that I don't get
[14:45] <sebrock> and the current condition image is just "unknown"... taken from BBC
[14:45] <sebrock> ok, what is the input to bbc script?
[14:45] <superm1> i'm not sure off hand.  that's why i was hoping running from a terminal would give hints whats up :)
[14:46] <sebrock> I will run it from terminal... just dont know the ins ans outs of the script
[14:46] <sebrock> I guess it takes location etc as input
[14:50] <sebrock> looks like I should be having a variable that is opt_u and locid
[15:08] <sebrock> no clue
[15:20] <sebrock> it can't fetch the europe satellite image
[15:25] <sebrock> superm1, u there?
[15:25] <sebrock> I found this /data/cache/EuropeSatellite-0 was not found on this server.
[15:25] <sebrock> however the image IS there and is owned by www-data
[15:26] <sebrock> dunno why it says it is not there
[15:27] <sebrock> infact even /data is not accessable
[15:29] <sebrock> which is very strange as it finds the channel icons in the same dir
[18:20] <noii> playing back dvd ISOs via mythvideo has, the last couple of times i've tried to use it, been really glitchy video
[18:37] <superm1> hopefully that's better with trunk (0.22)
[18:50] <rhpot1991> noii bad rips?
[18:50] <rhpot1991> I play mine just fine
[18:51] <rhpot1991> I had some bandwidth issues while using the internal player on a 2nd fronend though, switched to xine after that
[19:16] <noii> rhpot1991: they've played fine in the past, this is just recently. it's the same sort of glitching i see if my reception is bad on a digital recording which is odd
[19:17] <noii> i'm guessing it's a playback problem, but my front end and backend are on one machine, so not sure what's changed
[19:17] <rhpot1991> noii: I've seen similiar with bad dvds or very old ones that I was unable to make good rips of
[19:18] <noii> my ethernet connection isn't working at the moment too, so i wonder if there's something more general going wrong
[19:18] <noii> rhpot1991: yeah, but these same rips have played fine in the past
[19:18] <noii> it's literally every iso i try and play
[19:18] <rhpot1991> noii: ah ok, check your logs and see if there are any hints in there
[19:19] <noii> which log should i be looking at?
[19:19] <rhpot1991> I'd watch resources as its playing as well
[19:19] <noii> i'm a little new to debugging this sort of thing, how can i monitor resources?
[19:20] <noii> brb
[19:20] <UnderSampled> Hello. I need help setting up a tuner card.
[19:20] <rhpot1991> if you are using the internal player then /var/log/mythtv
[19:20] <rhpot1991> grrr, mythfrontend.log in there
[19:20] <UnderSampled> really, I just need help. :)
[19:20] <rhpot1991> noii: ssh in and run top
[19:29] <UnderSampled> I have a tuner card, but when I choose "watch tv" nothing happens. obviously setting up a tuner card takes a little bit of work
[19:30] <UnderSampled> but I don't know the smallest bit where to start
[19:40] <rhpot1991> UnderSampled: nothing as in black screen then back to the menu?
[19:41] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: yes, although the black screen only shows for a tiny fraction of a second
[19:41] <rhpot1991> !blank% | UnderSampled
[19:41] <Zinn> UnderSampled: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[19:42] <noii> ah, ok, top, i remember that, and i was poking around in mythfrontend.log before. i'll have another look at these
[19:42] <noii> thanks
[19:48] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: ok, but I didn't change anything. this is from a frsh install
[19:48] <rhpot1991> UnderSampled: could be you didn't setup your tuner correctly either, check the logs
[19:48] <rhpot1991> !logs
[19:48] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[19:50] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2b44e6d4
[19:53] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: where is the default recording directory?
[19:59] <rhpot1991> UnderSampled: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[19:59] <rhpot1991> which should be pretty good
[19:59] <rhpot1991> you normally only have permission issues if you set up a different directory
[20:00] <UnderSampled> how do you find what permissions a dir has?
[20:03] <UnderSampled> nvm
[20:04] <sebrock> Which permissions should the default recording dir have?
[20:05] <sebrock> if I start mythbackend with /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend It does not work, if started with sudo mythbackend it works
[20:05] <sebrock> dont understand why
[20:32] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: so, do you have any idea on how to configure my tuner?
[20:33] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: it is not on the list of "tuners that work without any setup", but it is a hauppage
[20:45] <UnderSampled> Hello qcjn
[20:46] <qcjn> hi
[20:46] <qcjn> going good
[20:46] <qcjn> never managed to make going my pvr-150 on ubuntu
[20:51] <rhpot1991> sebrock: init script should be run as sudo
[20:51] <rhpot1991> UnderSampled: look for documentation on the tuner
[20:51] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: where would it be?
[20:51] <rhpot1991> UnderSampled: what tuner?
[20:52] <sebrock> rhpot1991, I run it with sudo
[20:52] <sebrock> but only running sudo mythbackend
[20:52] <sebrock> works
[20:53] <sebrock> the init.d script somehow does not allow access to my recordingsdir
[20:53] <sebrock> really strange
[20:56] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: I am having trouble finding the model without opening the case
[20:57] <rhpot1991> sebrock: make sure that mythtv owns the dir, and its set to 775
[20:58] <rhpot1991> the init script will run the backend as mythtv
[21:00] <sebrock> I did all that
[21:00] <sebrock> does not work
[21:00] <sebrock> I posted in the ubuntu general help forum, please consider answering there
[21:01] <sebrock> tnx bye
[21:32] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: I finnaly found it :)
[21:32] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: from dmesg: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d65063497
[21:32] <UnderSampled> (model name is in there)
[21:32] <rhpot1991> ah hvr-1600
[21:33] <rhpot1991> IIRC that should work out of the box anymore
[21:33] <rhpot1991> hit up google, check wiki.mythtv.com
[21:33] <rhpot1991> !forums
[21:33] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[21:33] <rhpot1991> will be helpful as well
[21:34] <UnderSampled> rhpot1991: thank you. you are mighty helpfull
[21:35] <nsmith> I have diskless mythbuntu frontends, but when i try to reboot them, i get a squashfs error and must manually turn them off. How can I resolve this?
[22:09] <UnderSampled> how important is acpi for watching videos?
[22:14] <nsmith> I have diskless mythbuntu frontends, but when i try to reboot them, i get a squashfs error and must manually turn them off. How can I resolve this?
[22:36] <gbutters> UnderSampled: you need to run mythsetup and setup you tuner card