| psi-jack | Is there an equivalent to linux-igd for ubuntu 9.04? | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| clusty | <HellMind> #debian guys are punks | 00:18 |
| clusty | well they are more knowledgeable than ubuntu ppl | 00:18 |
| clusty | probalem is that they think debian>> ubuntu and look down at us | 00:18 |
| KillMeNow | keep up the flattery, i'm sure it'll help | 00:19 |
| psi-jack | clusty: Sometimes. | 00:19 |
| clusty | i know that ass kissing works awesome | 00:19 |
| clusty | and i do it as much as my lungs can handle :D | 00:19 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, btw, still no luck with DNS-ing | 00:20 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, part 1 of the guide you gave me: http://www.cahilig.org/how-setup-lan-dns-server-using-bind9-under-debian-and-ubuntu-linux | 00:20 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, thing is I want my main machine to be called "algorithmica" so I substitued all over the zone files | 00:20 |
| clusty | and it still cannot find my domain called debian.lan | 00:21 |
| clusty | pfff need to fight another day with this issue | 00:21 |
| psi-jack | Okay.. | 00:21 |
| psi-jack | Odd.. | 00:21 |
| clusty | thing is it seems all jibberish to me (the zone files) | 00:21 |
| clusty | they do not make a whole lotta sense | 00:21 |
| clusty | ohh also my net is : 192.168.0.xxx so i changed it accordingly | 00:22 |
| psi-jack | So, packages.ubuntu.com says 9.04 (Jaunty) has linux-igd in universe, I checked my apt.sources, and universe was enabled by default, but it's not there. | 00:23 |
| * psi-jack snaps his fingers.. | 00:23 | |
| psi-jack | ahhh, I forgot, it's eBox 1.2, from 8.04.2 | 00:23 |
| KillMeNow | http://www.cahilig.org/debian-and-ubuntu-ddns-bind9-and-dhcp | 00:24 |
| KillMeNow | that is the one i sent i do believe | 00:24 |
| KillMeNow | you wanted to hvae a local DHCP server push updates to DNS | 00:24 |
| KillMeNow | just like Microsoft does with their DHCP to DNS | 00:24 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, well they said in first sentence that this is building on the link i sent you | 00:25 |
| psi-jack | Crap! | 00:25 |
| KillMeNow | gotcha | 00:25 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, that is a minimal check that the system works | 00:25 |
| psi-jack | linux-igd isn't even available for 8.04-hardy | 00:25 |
| KillMeNow | yea, so you set up your DNS server and it's not working? | 00:26 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, correct :( | 00:26 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #414986 in open-iscsi (main) "open-iscsi causes FTBFS for anything that Build-Depends on it" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414986 | 00:26 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, i must be doing somethign seriously wrong | 00:26 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, any difference since i am running 8.04? | 00:27 |
| KillMeNow | not particularly | 00:28 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, thanks for help. will try tomorrow with a fresh head | 00:28 |
| clusty | will screw up the whole office network so ppl will hate me :D | 00:29 |
| KillMeNow | rightous | 00:30 |
| KillMeNow | hate is gud | 00:30 |
| KillMeNow | biggest thing is, debian.lan is the domain name they are using | 00:31 |
| clusty | tomorrow is hate thy sys admin day :D | 00:31 |
| KillMeNow | if you have a internal domain name, and other machines are using this box to resolve, then you need to put that domain name in to the zone | 00:31 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, there is no domain really | 00:31 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, another example suggested dyn.example.com | 00:31 |
| clusty | which was used till now | 00:32 |
| KillMeNow | it sets up the reverse zone as well as the main zone | 00:32 |
| KillMeNow | yea, but is that the name of the internal domain you're using? | 00:32 |
| clusty | probably i screwed up the zone file | 00:32 |
| clusty | well you swamped me :D | 00:32 |
| clusty | i did not spcify any domain before | 00:33 |
| KillMeNow | well that is why they are using debian.lan | 00:33 |
| KillMeNow | it can be any name | 00:33 |
| KillMeNow | it could be anything.local | 00:33 |
| KillMeNow | as long as you specify that is the zone it is authoriative for | 00:34 |
| clusty | i figured as much | 00:34 |
| clusty | another thing: i could not check the validity of zone files i created | 00:34 |
| KillMeNow | so if your work domain is say: prince.corp | 00:34 |
| KillMeNow | your DNS server had better have a prince.corp zone file | 00:35 |
| clusty | they gave some tool, which is missing some files | 00:35 |
| KillMeNow | validity? | 00:35 |
| KillMeNow | you mean that the configuration is correct? | 00:35 |
| clusty | they say to do a : named-checkzone convergence.lan /etc/bind/zones/db.convergence.lan | 00:35 |
| clusty | but i am missing those files | 00:35 |
| KillMeNow | then you named it in your named.conf.local | 00:35 |
| KillMeNow | did you copy / paste from the website? | 00:36 |
| clusty | yeap :D | 00:36 |
| clusty | apart from zone files | 00:36 |
| clusty | which i doctored | 00:36 |
| clusty | to fit my main machine name and ip class | 00:36 |
| KillMeNow | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-5.html | 00:38 |
| KillMeNow | brush up on how DNS works | 00:38 |
| KillMeNow | http://www.google.com/cse?cx=017644269519104757279%3Agm62gtzaoky&q=Bind9&sa=go | 00:38 |
| KillMeNow | if you want a bunch of stuff on DNS and Bind9 | 00:39 |
| clusty | KillMeNow, thnaks. you're the man | 00:41 |
| clusty | ...or woman :d | 00:41 |
| KillMeNow | man | 00:41 |
| clusty | thoguht so | 00:41 |
| clusty | linux gals are a rare and precious comodity | 00:42 |
| clusty | :D | 00:42 |
| KillMeNow | fraid so | 00:42 |
| Kamilion | but gaining. | 00:42 |
| KillMeNow | yes, now if i could only meet one IRL | 00:43 |
| Kamilion | unfortunately, most of them are in the older-than-young-adult category. | 00:43 |
| Kamilion | Technically, my grandmother's a linux gal, as her desktop email-station runs 8.10 ;) | 00:44 |
| clusty | actually one GF was a linuxoid | 00:46 |
| clusty | not even fat and zitty :D | 00:46 |
| clusty | and not even computer science, but bio | 00:47 |
| clusty | :d | 00:47 |
| clusty | miracle really | 00:47 |
| HellMind | where should I store a pid file? | 00:47 |
| clusty | ...and then she left to save the rain forest | 00:47 |
| * clusty sighs | 00:47 | |
| clusty | HellMind, /var/run ? | 00:47 |
| clusty | is that not the standard spot? | 00:47 |
| HellMind | yep :D | 00:49 |
| HellMind | ty | 00:49 |
| HellMind | who want to see my init script ? | 01:36 |
| HellMind | just see it http://pastebin.com/m13bab642 | 01:39 |
| KillMeNow | very nice | 01:43 |
| HellMind | I know, why ppl dont do thing like that :( | 01:43 |
| Q-FUNK | Howdy! Would anyone be available to comment on bug #194140 ? | 02:53 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 194140 in cyrus-sasl2 "Dependency cycle prevents upgrade of libsasl2-2" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194140 | 02:53 |
| psi-jack | Alrighty then. | 03:00 |
| psi-jack | Time to setup the ldap client. ;) | 03:00 |
| psi-jack | !find ldapsearch | 03:59 |
| ubottu | File ldapsearch found in caudium, kdepimlibs5-dev, ldap-utils, libnet-ldap-perl, nessus-plugins (and 2 others) | 03:59 |
| psi-jack | !find psql | 04:56 |
| ubottu | Found: libqt3-mt-psql, libqt4-sql-psql | 04:56 |
| psi-jack | Ugh | 04:56 |
| jmarsden | psi-jack: You'd probably get more useful results using apt-cache search psql | 06:19 |
| chrisellis | Hey guys... I've tried several times to make a sub domain and i can't get it to work | 06:21 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I can help! | 06:21 |
| chrisellis | firecrotch: awesome | 06:22 |
| chrisellis | what i did was create an A record and pointing to my IP address and then created a virtual server with that name | 06:22 |
| chrisellis | firecrotch: is that how you do i t? | 06:23 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: you're on the right track | 06:23 |
| chrisellis | what am i doing wrong ? | 06:24 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: you created the new virtual server in /etc/apache2/sites-available? | 06:24 |
| chrisellis | yes | 06:24 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: Did you then run sudo a2ensite thenameofthefile ? | 06:24 |
| chrisellis | wait no i created the .conf file in sites-enabled | 06:24 |
| firecrotch | Ok, can you pastebin that file and your 000-default file? | 06:25 |
| chrisellis | i have a default-ssl file and my primary longhornpcrepair.com.cof | 06:25 |
| chrisellis | conf | 06:25 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: do you get an error when you restart apache? | 06:26 |
| chrisellis | oh wait | 06:26 |
| chrisellis | i never restarted it | 06:26 |
| chrisellis | woops | 06:26 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: that *might* help ;) | 06:27 |
| chrisellis | k let me restart it | 06:27 |
| chrisellis | k restarted it | 06:27 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: does your subdomain work now? | 06:28 |
| chrisellis | im not sure i can't check it | 06:28 |
| chrisellis | http://swot.wwmcd.org | 06:28 |
| firecrotch | cannot find server | 06:28 |
| chrisellis | hmm | 06:29 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I did dig swot.wwmcd.org and got no answer | 06:29 |
| chrisellis | mmk | 06:30 |
| chrisellis | is wwmcd.org still working | 06:30 |
| chrisellis | firecrotch: here is my .conf file - http://pastebin.com/m31386711 | 06:31 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: the main domain does work, albeit slowly | 06:31 |
| chrisellis | thats not good | 06:32 |
| firecrotch | Seems to me that your DNS isn't updated | 06:32 |
| chrisellis | do i need to restart bind? | 06:32 |
| firecrotch | Yup | 06:33 |
| chrisellis | k | 06:34 |
| chrisellis | restarted it | 06:34 |
| jmarsden | It works now, although only one "Singing Woman" is listed and the site name is plural "women" :) | 06:35 |
| chrisellis | haha yeah | 06:35 |
| chrisellis | I am just starting on the site | 06:35 |
| chrisellis | fake content | 06:35 |
| chrisellis | and let me just make sure that wwmcd.org is still working | 06:35 |
| firecrotch | wwmcd.org is still working, and much faster now | 06:36 |
| chrisellis | great | 06:37 |
| chrisellis | so it was just a restart issue | 06:37 |
| chrisellis | i keep forgetting to restart my servers when i add stuff i will have to make a mental note | 06:37 |
| chrisellis | thank you much | 06:38 |
| jmarsden | You usually don't need to restart bind, sudo rndc reload wwwmcd.org would probably have been enough in this case. | 06:39 |
| chrisellis | what does that do? | 06:39 |
| jmarsden | man rndc. rnddc is a tool for sending commands to named | 06:39 |
| jmarsden | actually it lets you do all sorts of things to your DNS server except restart it :) | 06:40 |
| chrisellis | ahh | 06:41 |
| chrisellis | alright | 06:41 |
| chrisellis | I'm still learning how this all works | 06:41 |
| chrisellis | is there a script out there where i could just say the name of the domain and the directory and it creates all the files for me | 06:43 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I used to have one that I wrote, let me see if I have a copy somewhere | 06:43 |
| chrisellis | awesome | 06:44 |
| jmarsden | Well, I have some of those that do that for me and my needs... there can't really be a generic one because what you need for each new zone is up to you and ho wyou set up security for each zone, who can query it, etc etc. | 06:44 |
| chrisellis | I just set up all my domains pretty standard | 06:45 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: Unfortunately, I don't see the script on my server anywhere, and my backup drive is at work | 06:45 |
| chrisellis | oh alright | 06:46 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: You could write your own :) | 06:46 |
| chrisellis | firecrotch: true.. I would have to figure out how | 06:46 |
| chrisellis | i would love to create a php file that has a gui to it | 06:46 |
| chrisellis | or i mean that can give it a gui | 06:46 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I don't think that will be possible, since you have to use sudo for a lot of the stuff | 06:48 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: nor would it be a good idea | 06:48 |
| chrisellis | yeah | 06:48 |
| chrisellis | well make it https and only on local network | 06:48 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I remember my script prompting me for the domain name and the directory to use | 06:49 |
| chrisellis | oh thats cool | 06:49 |
| firecrotch | chrisellis: I've always found this guide useful for bash scripting: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ | 06:51 |
| chrisellis | awesome i will look into it | 06:51 |
| firecrotch | basically, I created a template for my apache configs, and used sed to put the domain name and directory into the file | 06:52 |
| jmarsden | I did the same for DNS... See http://pastebin.com/f9acf6b0 and http://pastebin.com/f6446090a for a script and template for DNS setup for new zones... just DNS, not web server setup, because DNS and web servers are separate machines in my case at work :) | 06:53 |
| chrisellis | pretty fancy | 06:55 |
| jmarsden | Not compared to some of the larger scripts I use :) | 06:56 |
| chrisellis | I'm just getting into this linux is very fun | 07:00 |
| chrisellis | let me use some punctuation... I'm just getting into linux, It is very fun | 07:00 |
| ball | chrisellis: Linux is useful, but the people are fun ;-) | 07:00 |
| chrisellis | yes | 07:00 |
| chrisellis | finally set up my own server and its been a challenge and very fun | 07:01 |
| chrisellis | i can't wait to buy another and set it up | 07:01 |
| ball | I'll be right back | 07:03 |
| chrisellis | is there an advantage to getting one of those servers at a server farm ? | 07:03 |
| jmarsden | Reliability, and less noise from server fans in your bedroom or living room or office :) | 07:04 |
| jmarsden | BTw the script for DNS is at http://pastebin.com/f6f861a36 | 07:04 |
| jmarsden | Apparently I posted the template file twice earlier :) | 07:04 |
| ball | chrisellis: what will you use your Ubuntu server for? | 07:06 |
| chrisellis | ball: the one i have now is for my websites and my clients websites | 07:06 |
| chrisellis | mostly all my sites a php and mysql | 07:07 |
| ball | Are you using virtualisation? | 07:07 |
| ball | ...or do they all live within one OS instance? | 07:08 |
| chrisellis | I'm using virtual servers | 07:08 |
| ball | What are you using as a hypervisor? KVM? | 07:08 |
| chrisellis | apache2 | 07:09 |
| ball | apache2 is not a hypervisor | 07:09 |
| jmarsden | I think chrisellis is confusing cirtual hosts and virtualization :) | 07:09 |
| ball | Ah, okay. | 07:09 |
| chrisellis | haha yeah | 07:09 |
| chrisellis | im a noob | 07:09 |
| jmarsden | chrisellis: Virtualization is running multiple OSes "inside" another one. With tools like KVM or virtualbox or vmware server | 07:10 |
| chrisellis | oo | 07:10 |
| chrisellis | no i just have ubuntu running on a dell poweredge 1750 | 07:10 |
| chrisellis | and just ssh into it ? | 07:12 |
| ball | It's a while since I looked at Dell Servers... is that a tower or rack mount? | 07:12 |
| qman__ | you're running a single OS, using apache virtualhosts | 07:13 |
| chrisellis | its a rack | 07:13 |
| chrisellis | k i am running one OS | 07:13 |
| ball | I used to work with a 1U PowerEdge and that thing was *loud* | 07:13 |
| chrisellis | haha yeah | 07:13 |
| ball | ...it was adequate though. | 07:13 |
| chrisellis | its a 1u | 07:13 |
| chrisellis | and its in the closet cause its sooo loud | 07:14 |
| chrisellis | don't worry there is an air condition vent in there | 07:14 |
| chrisellis | i want to get a poweredge 6650 | 07:14 |
| qman__ | those cooling systems are designed to deal with much worse than just a closet :) | 07:14 |
| qman__ | I've got two servers in my closet, though they're towers, not rackmounts | 07:15 |
| ball | I would like a server with a matched pair of Shanghai chips in it, but short of winning the lottery, that's unlikely to happen. | 07:15 |
| chrisellis | who makes the best servers? | 07:16 |
| qman__ | one's an athlon 64 3500+, the other's a sempron 64 | 07:16 |
| chrisellis | I've just been looking at dells cause i live in austin and they are easy to find | 07:17 |
| jmarsden | chrisellis: "Best" at any price? And you have the space and power and cooling? IBM zSeries mainframes, probably :) But "best" is very subjective. | 07:17 |
| chrisellis | or round rock i mean | 07:17 |
| ball | chrisellis: IBM and HP seem to make some credible gear. Sun make some that's probably good for certain applications. | 07:17 |
| ball | ...I wouldn't mind trying a Lenovo server. | 07:17 |
| ball | jmarsden: pSeries ftw ;-) | 07:17 |
| chrisellis | isn't lenovo basically IBM | 07:18 |
| ball | chrisellis: sort of. | 07:18 |
| qman__ | dpm | 07:18 |
| qman__ | don't know about their servers | 07:18 |
| qman__ | lenovo bought IBM's division for laptops and such though | 07:18 |
| chrisellis | yeah | 07:18 |
| qman__ | but IBM still makes servers, so not sure about them | 07:18 |
| jmarsden | No, Lenovo bought IBM PC designs... the IBM zSeries and pSeries stuff are much bigger machines using non-Intel noj-AMD CPUs and are very much *not* PC's at all... | 07:18 |
| ball | HP probably sell Itanium boxen... does anyone else? | 07:19 |
| chrisellis | all the servers i'm looking at are quad Xeon processors | 07:19 |
| ball | chrisellis: Nehalem? | 07:19 |
| chrisellis | ball: Is that a brand? | 07:19 |
| qman__ | nehalem is also known as i7 | 07:19 |
| twb | chrisellis: nehalem is an Intel product name | 07:19 |
| ball | chrisellis: *some* quad core Xeons are Nehalem chips | 07:20 |
| chrisellis | let me check | 07:20 |
| qman__ | it's intel's latest and greatest processors | 07:20 |
| ball | it's a development codename. | 07:20 |
| jmarsden | Nehalem is the "code name" for a recent series of Intel CPUs. | 07:20 |
| qman__ | they're fast, and they're expensive | 07:20 |
| twb | FSVO greatest ;-) | 07:20 |
| ball | Supposedly they have some nice power management features. | 07:20 |
| twb | It's not like Intel make particularly great chips to begin with, I guess | 07:20 |
| chrisellis | I'm not sure ... its a dell poweredge 6650 | 07:20 |
| ball | twb: any thoughts on Shanghai? | 07:20 |
| chrisellis | it doesn't say in the manual | 07:20 |
| twb | ball: I don't track that shit closely | 07:21 |
| ball | chrisellis: don't buy it if you can't find out. | 07:21 |
| ball | twb: any thoughts on Istambul? ;-) | 07:21 |
| twb | ball: I don't track that shit closely | 07:21 |
| qman__ | I can't afford any of that stuff, all my servers are desktop hardware | 07:21 |
| twb | qman__: my gear is fucking Pentium IIIs in compaq cases | 07:22 |
| ball | chrisellis: If you know you'll be scaling up, consider a blade chassis | 07:22 |
| qman__ | my shell server is a 200MHz K6 | 07:22 |
| jetsaredim | is there a guide for setting up raid under ubuntu? | 07:22 |
| ball | ...perhaps once you get past three x86 boxen | 07:22 |
| twb | That's the work machines, of course. | 07:22 |
| chrisellis | ball: well this server is only $150 | 07:22 |
| ball | qman__: I have a 450 MHz K6-2+ box here. | 07:22 |
| chrisellis | and for my uses i think it would be perfect | 07:22 |
| twb | At home I run everything off an Asus 500gP | 07:22 |
| ball | chrisellis: ah well, then you're not going to be all that fussy | 07:22 |
| ball | brb | 07:22 |
| qman__ | you get four or five SSH sessions going, and it starts to lag | 07:22 |
| chrisellis | yeah | 07:22 |
| twb | Not because I'm poor, but for the challenge | 07:23 |
| qman__ | perfect for personal use, not useful for much else | 07:23 |
| jmarsden | jetsaredim: See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html for software RAID | 07:24 |
| chrisellis | I know that the 6650 chips have hyper-threading | 07:24 |
| qman__ | HT means they're either pretty old, or the new nehalems | 07:25 |
| chrisellis | i dont think the 6650's are new | 07:25 |
| chrisellis | maybe 2006-2007 | 07:25 |
| chrisellis | but again its only $150.00 | 07:25 |
| qman__ | that's not bad | 07:25 |
| chrisellis | yeah quad 2.2GHZ 3x73GB 10K | 07:26 |
| twb | I wasn't impressed by HT in the P4s | 07:26 |
| qman__ | that's a nice machine for so little | 07:26 |
| qman__ | probably eats up a lot of power though | 07:26 |
| chrisellis | its got 2x900 Watt Power supplies | 07:27 |
| twb | Gimme SATA's larger capacities for most shit, though | 07:27 |
| firecrotch | P4 HT was crap | 07:27 |
| twb | firecrotch: is nehalem's any better? | 07:27 |
| chrisellis | so hearing that they are 2 900watt power supplies i bet that things loud as crap | 07:27 |
| qman__ | HT isn't useful on one core | 07:27 |
| qman__ | but when you throw in 4+, it begins to show worth | 07:27 |
| firecrotch | twb: it's lightyears beyond P4's | 07:27 |
| qman__ | but only in certain applications | 07:27 |
| twb | qman__: why? | 07:27 |
| twb | qman__: my understanding of HT was that the number of cores wasn't relevant | 07:28 |
| qman__ | HT doubles your cores effectively | 07:28 |
| twb | qman__: bullshit | 07:28 |
| soren | qman__: Err.. It really, really doesn't. | 07:28 |
| qman__ | but on the original P4 implementation, the way it worked, a runaway process would still hang your box | 07:28 |
| twb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreading | 07:29 |
| chrisellis | so in theory 1 HT processor is 2 ? | 07:29 |
| qman__ | well, it doesn't double them without consequence | 07:29 |
| twb | chrisellis: FSVO theory = marketing | 07:29 |
| qman__ | it provides more cores at reduced performance per core | 07:29 |
| qman__ | to the software | 07:29 |
| qman__ | so it really depends on what software you run | 07:29 |
| qman__ | but the new HT is far more useful than the original | 07:29 |
| jetsaredim | in what package would i be able to find mkraid? | 07:29 |
| * ball nods | 07:29 | |
| ball | Hyperthreading is snake oil, at least on x86] | 07:30 |
| twb | "RMI, a Cupertino-based startup, is the first MIPS vendor to provide a processor SOC based on 8 cores, each of which runs 4 threads." | 07:30 |
| twb | 32 threads on a soc? I'd like to see Intel do that | 07:30 |
| soren | jetsaredim: mkraid? | 07:30 |
| ball | soren! | 07:31 |
| qman__ | jetsaredim, you probably shouldn't be using mkraid, you should use mdadm instead | 07:31 |
| chrisellis | If i already have a server thats a dual 2.8 would there be a point in running another server or just replacing that one | 07:31 |
| jetsaredim | qman__: ok | 07:31 |
| chrisellis | i mean for my needs at least | 07:31 |
| ball | chrisellis: look at your utilisation | 07:31 |
| qman__ | that depends on your needs | 07:31 |
| qman__ | if what you have is doing the job with a little performance to spare, I wouldn't bother upgrading it | 07:32 |
| ball | Look at your upgrade path *before* the load becomes very high and the users start to suffer. | 07:32 |
| twb | ball: if ANYTHING works, leave that thing the fuck alone :-) | 07:32 |
| qman__ | web servers are an interesting thing | 07:32 |
| chrisellis | i just don't want to pass up a great deal like this | 07:32 |
| qman__ | because it depends entirely on the nature of your sites | 07:32 |
| qman__ | if you're using complex scripts and SSL, you need a lot of CPU power | 07:33 |
| ball | twb: Right, but if it's a production server you'll want another machine anyway. | 07:33 |
| qman__ | if you're just serving static pages, not so much | 07:33 |
| chrisellis | right now i am using 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 cpu load average and 1.97GB Real memory | 07:33 |
| jmarsden | chrisellis: There will almost always be a better deal in a few months.... available general purpose computers get better, faster and cheaper over time. | 07:33 |
| qman__ | it is a great deal, but if you don't need it, you'll just be increasing your electric bill for no good reason | 07:33 |
| jetsaredim | qman__: will mdadm automatically save the setup for next boot? | 07:33 |
| ball | chrisellis: do you have another machine synced with that, to take over when that one fails? | 07:34 |
| jmarsden | If you have 0 load avg you do not need more cores :) | 07:34 |
| chrisellis | no thats why i kinda want to get another one | 07:34 |
| qman__ | jetsaredim, you have to save the mdadm.conf and set up your fstab | 07:34 |
| qman__ | the howto should go through that, if it's the one I think it is | 07:34 |
| qman__ | you can always manually reassemble an array | 07:35 |
| jetsaredim | not sure which howto you might be talking about? | 07:36 |
| qman__ | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html | 07:36 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 07:36 |
| chrisellis | But what you said about the power bill ... 2x900watt power supplies plus whatever that 1750 is doing ... might kill me | 07:36 |
| qman__ | yeah, it's a good deal if you need the CPU power, but it's going to be pretty costly to run | 07:37 |
| qman__ | AMD's biggest marketing ploy is that opterons are more power efficient than xeons | 07:37 |
| ball | chrisellis: just because you have 900W PSUs, doesn't mean your server is going to be burning 900 Watts. | 07:38 |
| chrisellis | ball: oh well thats good to know | 07:38 |
| qman__ | yeah | 07:38 |
| qman__ | that's just the max capacity | 07:38 |
| qman__ | and also, it's likely that they're redundant | 07:38 |
| ball | chrisellis: but choose your CPU and disk drives with care. | 07:38 |
| qman__ | meaning that the machine is not designed to use more than 900 watts | 07:38 |
| qman__ | however, it could still be pretty expensive to run | 07:38 |
| qman__ | look into the TDP of the processors | 07:39 |
| jetsaredim | qman__: trying to figure out how to specify that a given drive is a spare in a raid 5 setup | 07:39 |
| ball | ...and make sure they can do Cool-n-Quiet (AMD) or SpeedStep (Intel) | 07:39 |
| ball | ...that those things are enabled too. | 07:39 |
| ball | ...and 15k drives may be fast, but they also run hot. | 07:40 |
| ball | Alright, I really am going to bed now. | 07:40 |
| ball | Goodnight everyone. | 07:40 |
| ball | I shall dream of a new server, with 2.5" disk drives and stone cold microprocessors. | 07:41 |
| twb | 2.5 so they fail faster? | 07:41 |
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| qman__ | jetsaredim, http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2007/03/11/adding-a-hot-spare-to-an-md-device/ | 07:41 |
| qman__ | yeah, I am not a fan of 2.5" hard drives | 07:42 |
| chrisellis | alright talk to you later | 07:42 |
| qman__ | too slow and too fragile | 07:44 |
| soren | qman__: You know that many SAS drives are 2.5", right? | 07:46 |
| qman__ | nope, though fast and fragile isn't much better | 07:47 |
| qman__ | I like my nice, cool 3.5" SATA drives | 07:48 |
| twb | I think what I like most about my 3.5" SATA drives is their commoditory nature (i.e. cost per byte). | 07:49 |
| qman__ | yeah | 07:50 |
| qman__ | RAID a bunch of them together, and you have a reasonably fast filesystem | 07:51 |
| firecrotch | I'll stick with my 5.25" drives, tyvm | 07:51 |
| jetsaredim | just got 5x wd black 750G for 65 per | 07:52 |
| twb | AUD 0.11 / megabyte for 1.5TB seagate sata 3.5 | 07:55 |
| jetsaredim | $0.0866 for the wd drives - they were the deal of the day last week one day | 07:56 |
| twb | Nothing that good on msy.com.au, as at 2009-07-23 | 08:00 |
| twb | Probably I should take a new snapshot | 08:00 |
| jetsaredim | yea - it was a daily deal last week on newegg | 08:00 |
| jetsaredim | how does one re-activate a "stopped" md device? | 08:01 |
| qman__ | probably mdadm --assemble | 08:02 |
| jetsaredim | not identified in config file | 08:02 |
| qman__ | without a config set up you'd have to specify the devices to use | 08:06 |
| qman__ | syntax would be | 08:08 |
| qman__ | mdadm --assemble /dev/md? /dev/sd? /dev/sd? /dev/sd? | 08:09 |
| qman__ | replacing ? with the appropriate devices, of course | 08:09 |
| jetsaredim | hrm | 08:09 |
| jetsaredim | device or resource busy | 08:09 |
| jetsaredim | i'll just reinstall again | 08:11 |
| jetsaredim | just setting it up again | 08:11 |
| jetsaredim | so when saving the config | 08:12 |
| jetsaredim | would be something like mdadm --detail --scan --verbose > /etc/mdadm.conf | 08:12 |
| qman__ | yes | 08:12 |
| jetsaredim | but maybe /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf | 08:12 |
| qman__ | I can't remember exactly but that's the idea | 08:12 |
| qman__ | yes, the second is the correct file | 08:12 |
| jetsaredim | should it be appended or overwritten? | 08:12 |
| qman__ | appended | 08:13 |
| jetsaredim | ok cool | 08:13 |
| jetsaredim | thanks for the assistance | 08:13 |
| qman__ | no problem, sorry you have to start over | 08:14 |
| jetsaredim | i'm just starting out with it | 08:14 |
| jetsaredim | have an existing file server running on a hodgepodge of ide disks | 08:14 |
| jetsaredim | and upgrading to a new system i just built using the 5x 750 wd black drives | 08:14 |
| jetsaredim | trying to setup raid 5 | 08:14 |
| jetsaredim | for media/backups/fault tolerance/etc | 08:15 |
| qman__ | yeah | 08:15 |
| jetsaredim | lots of mp3s, tv shows, my kids dvds | 08:15 |
| jetsaredim | digital pics etc | 08:15 |
| qman__ | I did pretty much the same thing with mine, took a few days to get it set up the way I wanted | 08:15 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 08:15 |
| jetsaredim | took me about a month to find the right parts i wanted | 08:15 |
| qman__ | but it's worth the effort | 08:15 |
| jetsaredim | so it's not like i'm in any huge rush | 08:16 |
| qman__ | and in the event of a system crash, you can still reassemble the array from a live CD | 08:16 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 08:16 |
| jetsaredim | well | 08:16 |
| jetsaredim | i was going to use 4 active drives and have the 5th for spare | 08:16 |
| jetsaredim | since i got them so relatively cheap | 08:16 |
| qman__ | I started mine with 6 disks, and added 2 later | 08:16 |
| jetsaredim | ah | 08:17 |
| qman__ | it's almost full again though, I'm going to have to get bigger disks and make a new array | 08:17 |
| jetsaredim | only 6 sata connectors at the moment on the mobo | 08:17 |
| jetsaredim | my case has enough bays for 11 drives | 08:17 |
| jetsaredim | so i'm set for expansion | 08:17 |
| jetsaredim | oddly enough the case was the one thing i had when i started the project | 08:18 |
| jetsaredim | heh | 08:18 |
| qman__ | I've got room for 4 more, so I figure once 2TB drives get reliable and down in price, I'll create a new array with four of those, move the data, then add more 2TB disks | 08:18 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 08:18 |
| jetsaredim | though | 08:18 |
| jetsaredim | with the higher capacity disks there is greater likelihood of fault | 08:19 |
| qman__ | yeah, I'd do raid 6 with them | 08:19 |
| jetsaredim | ah | 08:19 |
| qman__ | right now I have raid 5, using 500GB disks | 08:19 |
| jetsaredim | sounds like fun | 08:19 |
| qman__ | so I've got about 3.3TB of space | 08:19 |
| jetsaredim | that would be enough to tide me over for a while | 08:20 |
| qman__ | one thing I didn't realize when I started | 08:20 |
| qman__ | is that I already had enough data to fill more than half of it | 08:20 |
| jetsaredim | heh | 08:20 |
| qman__ | once I got all my stuff off the various desktops around | 08:20 |
| jetsaredim | I'm getting there | 08:20 |
| jetsaredim | i have a 500G drive that's completely full | 08:21 |
| jetsaredim | plus a bunch of stuff on other random places | 08:21 |
| jetsaredim | i'd say i have about 100 movies | 08:21 |
| jetsaredim | plus about 400G of tv shows | 08:22 |
| jetsaredim | i need to go through them and get rid of some | 08:22 |
| qman__ | I have about 300GB left | 08:22 |
| qman__ | I can probably clean up about 150GB of unnecessary stuff | 08:22 |
| qman__ | but at the rate things are going I'll be full by next year | 08:23 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 08:23 |
| jetsaredim | it goes fast | 08:23 |
| jetsaredim | especially if you use it | 08:23 |
| jetsaredim | anyway well - thanks again | 08:24 |
| qman__ | yeah, no problem | 08:24 |
| jetsaredim | i may come back with more questions at some point tomorrow when i try again | 08:24 |
| qman__ | that linux raid howto is the best resource for it | 08:24 |
| qman__ | despite how old it is | 08:24 |
| jetsaredim | maybe i'll give karmic a go | 08:24 |
| jetsaredim | actually - i found something from the forums that's decent | 08:24 |
| qman__ | cool | 08:25 |
| jetsaredim | ok later | 08:26 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #415224 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415224 | 08:41 |
| acalvo | anyone here using postfix+dovecot (and LDAP as backend)? | 08:53 |
| stochastic | can anyone tell me how to prevent my external USB drive from Auto-mounting when I plug it in? | 08:54 |
| negge | my /var/mail/<user> has stopped growing since about 6 months back. Has there been an update to the system that changes the location of the mail file or what is going on? I doubt cron haven't had anything to say for that long. | 08:58 |
| CopyWriter | hello all | 09:12 |
| CopyWriter | today's question :) - i installed 2 network cards into a ubuntu server lts 8:04, configured the eth0 with dhcp and connected it to my adsl modem (can ping google, did updates etc) configured eth1 with static 192.168.1.1 that plugs into a wireless router, other clients will connect to the wireless network fine, but get no internet | 09:15 |
| CopyWriter | oh and eth1 also has a dhcp server configured on it also | 09:15 |
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| CopyWriter | so it handles assigning addresses | 09:15 |
| CopyWriter | disabled dhcp on the wireless router, but then the clients couldn't connect to it | 09:16 |
| CopyWriter | when i open a browser it just stays at connecting and then nada | 09:16 |
| CopyWriter | i'm thinking to just plug the router into a lan port on the wireless router, but then that would entirely defeat the purpose of having the server act as a firewall | 09:18 |
| CopyWriter | !dhcp | 09:18 |
| ubottu | dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP | 09:18 |
| stefan____ | what is the gateway for the wireless router | 09:18 |
| stefan____ | ? | 09:18 |
| stefan____ | must be eth1s ip address | 09:19 |
| CopyWriter | 192.168.1.1 | 09:19 |
| stefan____ | and that is the ip of the eth1 nic card ? | 09:19 |
| CopyWriter | yep | 09:19 |
| stefan____ | do you have your 804 server configured as a router ? | 09:20 |
| CopyWriter | i'm not sure | 09:20 |
| CopyWriter | i don't think so | 09:20 |
| stefan____ | that is way it is not working | 09:20 |
| CopyWriter | how do i do that | 09:20 |
| stefan____ | http://unixfoo.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-to-configure-linux-machine-as.html | 09:20 |
| CopyWriter | i knew it was something i was missing | 09:20 |
| stefan____ | enable ip_forward | 09:21 |
| CopyWriter | thanks stefan | 09:22 |
| stefan____ | no probs CopyWriter | 09:22 |
| CopyWriter | i'll try that at the office, i woke up early to research the problem it's 4:22 now, will most likely still have time to get some shut eye before work | 09:23 |
| stefan____ | it is good you woke up early then :) | 09:23 |
| acalvo | is it possible that the openssh server has some kind of timeout session? | 10:26 |
| acalvo | I'm finding that if I ssh one server and do not run any command for a large period (say 15min) it gets blocked | 10:26 |
| acalvo | maybe the connection was killed? | 10:26 |
| _ruben | most likely a connection tracking issue of one routers/firewalls in between | 10:35 |
| acalvo | _ruben: but it does not makes sense | 10:36 |
| _ruben | why not? | 10:36 |
| acalvo | since if I log in thru ssh and starting working, it does not get killed the connection | 10:36 |
| acalvo | only after a period | 10:36 |
| _ruben | so you're experiencing a timeout somewhere, a fairly common one is a busted connection tracking along the way | 10:37 |
| acalvo | oh, I see | 10:38 |
| acalvo | maybe you're right | 10:38 |
| andol | ttx: Regarding bug #334374, aside from having ldap-auth-config as an explicit Recommend, do you agree with the change otherwise? | 11:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 334374 in libnss-ldap "libnss-ldap should not depend on libpam-ldap" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334374 | 11:04 |
| ttx | andol: I was wondering what was the best way to fix it, given that other related bug. Wanted to ping mathiaz/dendrobates about it since they authored the original design | 11:05 |
| andol | ttx: Thinking of bug #11:36 < acalvo> _ruben: but it does not makes sense | 11:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 11 in rosetta "Rosetta says there are untranslated strings, but it isn't" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11 | 11:06 |
| andol | ohh, bad paste there, sorry | 11:06 |
| andol | ttx: Thinking of bug #306054 I assume? | 11:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 306054 in ldap-auth-client "Not using LDAP for auth, please downgrade libpam-ldap to Recommends:" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306054 | 11:07 |
| ttx | yes | 11:07 |
| ttx | both are about the current design not allowing some specific setups | 11:07 |
| ttx | Downgrading a depends to a recommends would fix it, I'm just unsure which depend should be converted :) | 11:08 |
| ttx | Your solution would not fix 306054. | 11:08 |
| andol | ttx: Yeah, been thinking about that one too, but haven't really used ldap-auth{config,client} enough to have an an actual opinon on those. | 11:08 |
| andol | ttx: No, it wouldn't. Nevertheless I don't think ldap-auth-config should be a hard dependency to libnss-ldap. You can very well use that lib without any extra configuration utility. | 11:10 |
| ttx | true, the design was done at a time where recommends would not get installed, so it needs to be salted with some recommends to allow better flexibility. | 11:11 |
| andol | ttx: Which is basically the solution I suggest, especially if we add -auth-config as an explicit recommend. I belive that's a good change, no matter what. | 11:12 |
| andol | ttx: Still, I guess there is no hurry, if we anyway should solve the whole situation. | 11:12 |
| ttx | andol: ok | 11:13 |
| andol | ttx: So, what's the plan now? Try getting some input from matiaz and/or dendrobates? | 11:14 |
| ttx | andol: yes, I'll ask them to have a look and comment, then if they are ok with your debdiff, I'll uplaod it | 11:14 |
| ttx | upload it, even | 11:15 |
| andol | ttx: Does that mean I should add a new debdiff, with auth-recommends listed under Recommends as well? | 11:15 |
| ttx | andol: doesn't hurt to prepare it, yes :) | 11:16 |
| andol | ttx: Being a rather easy change I'll create a new one when I get off from work. | 11:17 |
| andol | Work is by the way something I probably should return to now. | 11:17 |
| ttx | andol: makes sense :) | 11:18 |
| sebrock | I just installed a vncserver on a headless ubuntu 9.04 server | 11:40 |
| sebrock | When I connect to it all I see is the X11 desktop, I cannot start a terminal or anything... how do I do that? | 11:41 |
| _ruben | install the desktop edition instead? :) | 11:41 |
| sebrock | uh nope no good | 11:42 |
| sebrock | I want to keep the installs at a minimum | 11:42 |
| sebrock | got the mouse ans everything, just no terminal | 11:42 |
| sebrock | so I can't start anything really | 11:43 |
| _ruben | perhaps you have no terminal program installed | 11:43 |
| ogra | install a minimal window manager | 11:43 |
| sebrock | Should it really be necessary to install a window manager? | 11:44 |
| ogra | openbox or fluxbox | 11:44 |
| sebrock | vncserver acts as a window manager | 11:44 |
| ogra | huh ? | 11:44 |
| _ruben | vncserver a wm?? | 11:44 |
| sebrock | it installs X11 libs | 11:44 |
| ogra | vnc server acts as an X server | 11:44 |
| _ruben | its an X server, not a wm | 11:44 |
| sebrock | I heard a wm should not be needed | 11:45 |
| ogra | why do you use vnc at all ? as i understand you you just want to be able to run a terminal, using ssh should provide you with that | 11:46 |
| ogra | you just add useless overhead | 11:46 |
| dorvan83 | hi to all | 11:47 |
| sebrock | ogra, it's for a mytht-backend | 11:47 |
| dorvan83 | i have a problem with /dev/random.... seems doesn't work... | 11:48 |
| sebrock | Last time X-forward did not work very well with the initil setup | 11:48 |
| _ruben | dorvan83: you probably lack entropy .. which is a nasty problem .. i run into it every now and then on mostly idle systems | 11:49 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: yes i this this too, but entropy pool in kernel is 4096 and i'm trying different keygen executebles, have problem to generate a 1024 key from /dev/random | 11:51 |
| _ruben | dorvan83: its total size is probably 4096, yet empty (so 4096 of nothingness) | 11:52 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: but if i launch a dd if=/dev/random of=/root/text.txt and after some time i stop it.. | 11:52 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: the results from dd statistics is zero | 11:52 |
| _ruben | which indicates lack of entropy | 11:52 |
| _ruben | there are some tricks to increase entropy to be found on the 'net, but i never found one that actualy worked well | 11:53 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: but if i make the same with "urandom" dd print something | 11:53 |
| _ruben | because urandom is less "secure" than random | 11:53 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: i'm using ubuntu server 9.04 in which way i can solve this, to try? | 11:54 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: some doc on the net suggest to remove rando and make an alis to urandom named random | 11:57 |
| _ruben | http://stupefydeveloper.blogspot.com/2007/12/random-vs-urandom.html .. little post on the differences between random and urandom .. as for increasing entropy itself, google, tho like i said, i dont recall ever being able to increase the entropy on a "problematic" box | 11:57 |
| dorvan83 | _ruben: but sound stupid... | 11:57 |
| _ruben | that'd work as a temp work around | 11:57 |
| _ruben | and it depends on how much you care about "real" randomness | 11:58 |
| _ruben | if a certain box lacks enough entropy for a given task, i run the task on another box which does have enough entropy .. when possible that is | 11:58 |
| MatBoy | _ruben: do you still live ? | 12:12 |
| sebrock | yup, vncserver should start twm, so it includes a wm | 12:15 |
| sebrock | I see it should also start a terminal by default | 12:17 |
| sebrock | FYI all I had to do was to add the full path to xterm in the xstartup file | 12:35 |
| sebrock | works now | 12:35 |
| garymc | Hi people, do i need an antivirus software on my ubuntu server? if so which one and does it cost anything? | 12:40 |
| pmatulis | garymc: no a/v s/w necessary | 12:43 |
| garymc | s/w? | 12:49 |
| pmatulis | software | 12:50 |
| garymc | ahh :S | 12:51 |
| pmatulis | garymc: what kind of server are you talking about anyway? | 12:51 |
| ivoks | ttx: here? | 12:51 |
| ttx | ivoks: yes | 12:51 |
| garymc | im using an LTSP setup | 12:51 |
| pmatulis | ok, an LTSP server | 12:51 |
| ivoks | ttx: regarding the corosync sync | 12:51 |
| garymc | ive got 3 servers, trying to use two of them right now | 12:51 |
| garymc | Im gonna put Astlinux on one of them | 12:52 |
| ttx | ivoks: yes | 12:52 |
| ivoks | ttx: my laptop died couple of days ago, so it's kind of pain to do anythnig now using my phone | 12:52 |
| garymc | and try to link it through so each ltsp user has a phone too | 12:52 |
| ttx | hehe | 12:52 |
| ivoks | ttx: so, i'll be finishing my vacation tomorrow and should be able to fix those things day after tomottow | 12:53 |
| ivoks | tomorrow | 12:53 |
| ttx | ivoks: works for me, I'm mostly concerned by the NBS | 12:53 |
| ivoks | nbs? | 12:53 |
| ttx | the library transition | 12:53 |
| ivoks | ah. | 12:53 |
| ivoks | rhcs will need rebuild | 12:53 |
| ivoks | acctualy, new version | 12:54 |
| ivoks | and | 12:54 |
| ivoks | but we need to sync corosync first | 12:54 |
| ivoks | then we will sync openais | 12:54 |
| ivoks | and new pacemaker and new rhcs | 12:54 |
| ivoks | corosync is first step | 12:55 |
| ivoks | openais second | 12:55 |
| ivoks | everything except rhcs is in the ppa i mentioned in the bug | 12:56 |
| ivoks | i couldn't finish rhcs cause my thinpad died... £%$&*£"! | 12:56 |
| ivoks | ... and i won't be at the meeting today for the same reason... | 12:57 |
| ttx | ivoks: There is no laptop reparirman on your beach ? | 12:58 |
| ivoks | no :/ | 12:58 |
| garymc | pmatulis: do you know if i can do this? | 12:58 |
| garymc | pmatulis: setup a separate server with astlinux on ubuntu then link it to my ltsp clients and giv them a phone each? | 12:59 |
| pmatulis | garymc: best ask on #ltsp | 12:59 |
| ivoks | ttx: oh, and we can't sync from experimental since that version isn't there yet | 12:59 |
| ttx | it is now | 12:59 |
| ttx | ivoks: since Aug 15 | 13:00 |
| ivoks | eh... i couldn't know that :/ | 13:00 |
| ivoks | does it has all my changes? | 13:00 |
| ivoks | have | 13:01 |
| ivoks | i hate lenovo :/ | 13:01 |
| _ruben | MatBoy: nah :) | 13:02 |
| ivoks | anyway, i'll be back in 48 hours... take care | 13:02 |
| dorvan83 | ivoks: i'm using your last released packages on launchpad for ubuntu for corosync and pacemaker. Yesterday night sdake of #linux-cluster have bypassed an issue with corosync-keygen binary, but there are other problems with system entropy. | 13:53 |
| ttx | dorvan83: he is no longer in-channel. You should send an email to him. | 13:55 |
| dorvan83 | ah, ok | 13:55 |
| dorvan83 | where i can get it? | 13:55 |
| dorvan83 | from whois command? | 13:55 |
| dorvan83 | i can't see | 13:57 |
| dorvan83 | ttx: have you suggestion for increase system entropy? | 13:57 |
| dorvan83 | i found this:http://ubuntumagnet.com/2007/11/creating-more-entropy-linux-kernel-virtualized-environment | 13:58 |
| ttx | dorvan83: see pm | 14:00 |
| dorvan83 | ttx: pm? | 14:03 |
| ttx | dorvan83: I just sent you the email address by Private Message (pm) | 14:05 |
| dorvan83 | ooppss sorry... that pm aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh | 14:07 |
| dorvan83 | ttx: thanks, sorry but i'm in remote console on irssi. | 14:08 |
| smoser | soren, would it make sense to allow the user to provide the ssh host keys for a new instance (in user-data or something).. they could run ssh-keygen the system that started the instance and send them over to the new instance, rather than trying to verify by scraping console output (which sometimes doesn't work) | 14:10 |
| soren | smoser: i thought about it, but I think it's a bad idea. The user-data is not protected, so if someone finds a way to query your meta-data, they get your ssh host private key, and that would be bad news. | 14:11 |
| smoser | this is true | 14:12 |
| smoser | obviously, that info (the private key) is also in /etc/ssh | 14:12 |
| smoser | but there it is file system permissions protected | 14:12 |
| smoser | i think you might have mentioned before the possibility of locking up (via iptables) the user data | 14:13 |
| smoser | after it is used. perhaps crawl it, store it in /var/run/ec2-user data with secure filesystem permissions and then deny access to 169.254.169.254:80 | 14:14 |
| smoser | soren, ^ (no hurry, just so you see it) | 14:15 |
| soren | smoser: Hm. Interesting idea. That could work, I guess. | 14:16 |
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| rayno_b | Hi there, I need to forward port 3840 to a specific IP address on the network (this should happen from internal). Can someone here please assist me to get that to work? | 16:01 |
| PhotoJim_ | there are lots of ways of doing that. | 16:01 |
| PhotoJim_ | I use shorewall. /etc/shorewall/rules has the configuration. | 16:02 |
| rayno_b | If I use webmin could I do this with ip tables? | 16:02 |
| PhotoJim_ | DNAT net loc:192.168.222.13 tcp 5050 | 16:02 |
| PhotoJim_ | DNAT net loc:192.168.222.13 udp 5050 | 16:02 |
| PhotoJim_ | that forwards port 5050 from my router's external IP (my router is an Ubuntu box) to that private IP on my LAN (my Slingbox in this case). | 16:02 |
| giovani | rayno_b: your ubuntu box is the firewall/router? | 16:03 |
| rayno_b | no | 16:03 |
| PhotoJim_ | iptables can do it, but I'm not experienced in doing that. and I don't use webmin . my router has no GUI. better performance that way. | 16:03 |
| PhotoJim_ | ahh. you have to do this on your router. | 16:03 |
| giovani | rayno_b: then this isn't an ubuntu question -- this is a question for your router/firewall company | 16:03 |
| rayno_b | but is there any way to do this on this ubuntu machine that is currently getting the request? | 16:03 |
| giovani | rayno_b: no ... | 16:04 |
| giovani | you need to open the port at the router/firewall | 16:04 |
| rayno_b | look, the port is open. | 16:04 |
| giovani | the entire function of that device is to stop random traffic from entering your network -- so that's where the exception has to be made | 16:04 |
| giovani | rayno_b: on the router/firewall? or on the server? there's a big difference | 16:04 |
| rayno_b | Giovani - I know. The port is only going to be used in the local lan, not from external to internal. | 16:05 |
| PhotoJim_ | why do you want to do local port forwarding? | 16:05 |
| giovani | rayno_b: then there's nothing you need to do -- the port is open | 16:05 |
| rayno_b | but | 16:05 |
| PhotoJim_ | port forwarding is usually done as a kludge to get around NAT. local IPs don't need to work around it. | 16:05 |
| rayno_b | If the request comes to the ubuntu box on port 3840, I want that request to be processed by another machine on the network. | 16:05 |
| PhotoJim_ | can you not direct the request to the proper machine? | 16:05 |
| rayno_b | You would think - That's what I would have done, but I'm not the admin of this network. The network admin insists that I do it this way. | 16:06 |
| giovani | rayno_b: there's no good solution to this | 16:06 |
| PhotoJim_ | this is a really dumb way to do it. no offense. :) | 16:06 |
| giovani | you need to do it the right way | 16:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #387257 in bacula (universe) "Bacula crashed on installation" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387257 | 16:06 |
| giovani | which is to send the client to the correct server | 16:06 |
| giovani | also, what protocol are you using on this port? | 16:07 |
| rayno_b | I'm using tcp | 16:07 |
| giovani | no | 16:07 |
| giovani | I meant application protocol | 16:07 |
| rayno_b | It's an http address | 16:08 |
| giovani | well, you can issue an http redirect | 16:08 |
| giovani | it's far cleaner than any kind of weird port-tunneling you want to do | 16:08 |
| rayno_b | okay... but say I insist on doing this weird tunneling thing. can you just help me to get it working please? I understand it's not the right thing to do. | 16:09 |
| giovani | an HTTP 301 reply will ensure the client sends their traffic (for the entire session) to that new server | 16:09 |
| giovani | rayno_b: nope, sorry, I can't help do something so silly | 16:10 |
| giovani | maybe someone else will | 16:10 |
| rayno_b | can I explain the network admin's point of view. | 16:10 |
| giovani | well you've also decided not to use my perfectly valid solution | 16:11 |
| giovani | for some unknown reason | 16:11 |
| rayno_b | giovani - ok, can you help me with the HTTP 301 reply? | 16:11 |
| giovani | sure, set up a webserver, and configure it that way | 16:11 |
| giovani | lighttpd will do | 16:11 |
| giovani | it's still serious overkill | 16:12 |
| giovani | but at least it'll make sure you're not duplicating tons of traffic for no good reason | 16:12 |
| rayno_b | okay, i'll try that. thank you. | 16:12 |
| PhotoJim_ | that seems the most elegant solution. | 16:13 |
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| giovani | PhotoJim: it still makes me cringe :) | 16:13 |
| rayno_b | you wouldn't do it? | 16:14 |
| giovani | rayno_b: I'd talk to the network admin | 16:14 |
| giovani | I don't know why this is the network admin's decision anyway | 16:14 |
| rayno_b | okay | 16:14 |
| giovani | you don't need his permission to tell clients to access the server directly | 16:14 |
| giovani | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Docs:ModRedirect | 16:14 |
| pmatulis | rayno_b: give giovani the admin's telephone number | 16:15 |
| giovani | there's the (pretty good) documentation on mod_redirect (which you'd need to use lighttpd here) | 16:15 |
| giovani | just make sure to set the url.redirect-code to 301 | 16:15 |
| rayno_b | the thing is, the server sends 'n url link to the clients in their mailboxes and this contains the wrong address at the moment. | 16:15 |
| giovani | so fix it? | 16:15 |
| rayno_b | the dns name on other ports should point to the ubuntu server. it's just this one single port that's the problem. | 16:16 |
| PhotoJim | yeah, that's a good point. can you change it to give the correct address? | 16:16 |
| giovani | rayno_b: I don't follow you -- ports aren't related to domain names | 16:16 |
| giovani | domain names map to ip addresses -- you can't specify which ports are accessible when using a given name to resolve the ip | 16:17 |
| rayno_b | I know I know. | 16:17 |
| rayno_b | This is a special case. | 16:17 |
| rayno_b | From outside, the address somename.dyndns.org maps to the router that comes into the client's network. | 16:18 |
| rayno_b | From inside, the network administrator has mapped that name (somename.dyndns.org) to the ubuntu server that I'm administrating. | 16:18 |
| rayno_b | Because all ports on that name should go to the ubuntu server, except for this one port 3840 which should go back to another address. | 16:18 |
| giovani | so use a different name ... | 16:19 |
| giovani | for the right server | 16:19 |
| giovani | and send that one out in the emails | 16:19 |
| PhotoJim | sounds to me like the optimal solution is to just give the Ubuntu server the public IP, and have it port forward that one port. | 16:22 |
| PhotoJim | using a router to forward all ports to a single machine means the router isn't really routing. | 16:22 |
| PhotoJim | it's superfluous. | 16:22 |
| rayno_b | Okay, will talk to the network admin. | 16:25 |
| rayno_b | I have another question which is not related to my current topic... Do you mind? | 16:25 |
| giovani | rayno_b: as long as it's an ubuntu question, sure | 16:26 |
| rayno_b | I've been trying to understand traffic shaping, but I have no clue how to get this right. At the moment, I use an ubuntu server as gateway to the internet. How can I control that one user cannot simply use all available bandwidth to the internet? And maybe always allow mail traffic to be able to flow through, etc.? | 16:28 |
| rayno_b | I'll be right back | 16:29 |
| rayno_b | Right, I'm back. | 16:32 |
| rayno_b | Giovani - Can you or PhotoJim help with this? | 16:39 |
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| giovani | rayno_b: honestly, it's a reasonably complex topic | 16:42 |
| giovani | there are a number of howtos on traffic queueing in linux -- but I wouldn't advise taking it on | 16:43 |
| rayno_b | I must say, I've been very much unsuccessfull so far in what I've been trying. | 16:44 |
| rayno_b | But everytime someone on the network now downloads something, the internet is unusable to anyone else. | 16:44 |
| giovani | downloads something over http? or with something abusive like bittorrent? | 16:46 |
| rayno_b | just straight forward download | 16:46 |
| giovani | so over http then | 16:46 |
| giovani | that shouldn't be happening | 16:46 |
| rayno_b | remember, we're in africa. download speeds are really slow. | 16:46 |
| giovani | alright, well then it sounds like you may need traffic shaping | 16:47 |
| giovani | but it's not a simple task | 16:47 |
| giovani | so I'm not sure what to offer you | 16:47 |
| rayno_b | Are you prepared to help me set it up? | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: yo | 17:00 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: hi | 17:00 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: what is the subject of your email? | 17:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | looking... | 17:01 |
| Daviey | nijaba & kirkland: Let me know when you have 5 mins to chat about ubuntu-server-tips | 17:02 |
| kirkland | Daviey: i'm working a hard math problem at the moment | 17:02 |
| nijaba | Daviey: I'm free now (well, let me grab a coffee first) | 17:02 |
| nijaba | kirkland: well, since I know you do not have kids, I guess it is not a school relted pb ;) | 17:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | its on pkg-openldap-devel, cc'd you... 'enable nss-slapd to be built' | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and steve... | 17:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | since i'm kinda new to this i wasnt sure where i should run it by you guys, submit a bug/patch, or whatever... | 17:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | s/where/whether | 17:04 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: submitting a patch is always a good idea | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | also added a patch to fix test058's failing issue | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure, so just submit a bug and attach the udiff? | 17:05 |
| Daviey | kirkland: heh, ok.. ping me and nijaba when you are free :) | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | and patches which patch the build mechanism are ok too? | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: sure | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: what's your patch about test58? | 17:06 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: I'd also suggest to file the patches in the upstream bug tracker | 17:06 |
| nijaba | Daviey: from what I have gathered so far, you should just add a file starting with a number inside /etc/update-motd.d/ which contains the command to be executed to display tips. Once there the command will be executed at login to display the tip. kirkland will confirm, but I am quite sure that's all there is to it | 17:08 |
| kirkland | nijaba: Daviey: right... or a symlink to a file | 17:08 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: test58 randomly fails - try to rebuild the package and the build may succeed | 17:08 |
| kirkland | Daviey: do you have a binary that just plucks and prints one random tip? | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: the patch for test058 was from hyc... it got committed to openldap CVS | 17:08 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: part of 2.4.18 then? | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: so i added it to the build for 2.4.17 ... and it seems to reduce or eliminate the random failures that arent already caught | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | it will be | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | which means it becomes moot if 2.4.18 makes it into karmic | 17:09 |
| nijaba | kirkland: /usr/bin/ubuntu-server-tip | 17:10 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: that's ok - we backport patches from upstream if they're relevant | 17:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, this was a minor one that just cleaned up builds... along with my nssov patch which clear out the temporary build files leftover in the nssov tree | 17:10 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: this seems like a good candidate to send to upstream | 17:11 |
| nijaba | kirkland: so I guess a ln -s /usr/bin/ubuntu-server-tip /etc/update-motd.d/60_ubuntu-server-tip should be it? | 17:11 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: so I'd file a bug in ITS too | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: the nssov patch? | 17:11 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: yes - if you modify the Makefile to add a clean target it would be beneficial to upstream too | 17:11 |
| kirkland | nijaba: Daviey: yeah, that should do it ;-) | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | that was the question i had in my email... whether i should patch debian/rules to manually purge the files... or patch the nssov makefile to include a 'clean' rule and then debian/rules to call it | 17:12 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: I didn't pay too much attention to your patch as I don't build package more than once in the same tree | 17:12 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: patch the nssov Makefile | 17:12 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: and submit the patch to upstream | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok... and what about calling it during build cleanup? | 17:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i originally just added the clean target to 'all' which solved it, but felt a bit clunky | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: the clean target in the rules doesn't clean up the build | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: the clean target in the rules doesn't clean up the build tree | 17:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | what does then? | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: hm - well it does: rm -rf $(builddir) $(builddir_notls) $(installdir) | 17:14 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: however it's not done from a Makefile target | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, right | 17:15 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: It doesn't use make clean | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | nssov gets built in the regular source tree, not build iirc | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | which explains where the leftovers come from | 17:15 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: right - so may be modifying the nssov to be build in the build tree? | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like a better plan | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | now that i see how its working :) | 17:16 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: and while you're working on this, the latest version of slapd in ubuntu doesn't load the nssov | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | figure its also pertinent for building things like smbk5pwd | 17:16 |
| Daviey | kirkland: sorry, went AFK.. Something nijaba mentioned about it being 160 chars or less.. I was thinking of adding a "-s" switch to /usr/bin/ubuntu-server-tip that returns a tip less than 160 chars, as this might be more suitable for MOTD? What do you think? | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | which would also be a nice thing to integrate... | 17:16 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: I haven't tracked down the reason why the nssov shared library is not loaded correctly | 17:16 |
| Daviey | kirkland: That obv breaks your symlink, unless -s is default behaviour | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: hmm... i'll look into it | 17:17 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: that would be very helpful | 17:17 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: take the latest version of slapd in karmic and try to load the slapd overlay | 17:17 |
| Daviey | kirkland: i guess if user = root, it could default to -s ? | 17:17 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: take the latest version of slapd in karmic and try to load the nssov overlay | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | k... looking at that now... | 17:18 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: smbk5pwd is also interesting however it's build for heimdal | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, that was another question | 17:19 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: so the overlay needs to be ported to support MIT kerberos | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | with samba4 integrating heimdal, whats the plans with MIT? | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | or are they orthogonal | 17:19 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: MIT is the supported version of kerberso in ubuntu | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... | 17:19 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: ie MIT kerberos is in main while heimdal is in universe | 17:20 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: so the smbkrb5pwd needs to be ported to MIT | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | i saw something on the server pages about getting heimdal into main (which i think it was a long time ago) | 17:20 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: there is someone from redhat working on adding support for MIT kerberos to samba4 | 17:20 |
| nijaba | Daviey: ln -s is what you would do from the command line to add the symlink. The script ubuntu-server-tip can have whatever you want in it | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: ah, cool | 17:20 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: that must have been a long time ago | 17:20 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: the current plan is to stick with MIT kerberos in main and have heimdal in universe | 17:21 |
| Daviey | nijaba: sure, but just wanted to clarify that the MOTD should be <160 chars.. and if so, should i make this the default behaviour if ran as root? As update-motd no doubt runs as root. | 17:21 |
| Daviey | Can't think of a cleaner way, i'm sure update-motd doesn't introduce any enviroment variables? | 17:21 |
| nijaba | Daviey: ah, ok... in that case add a real file 60_ubuntu-server-tip in update-motd.d that contains a call to /usr/bin/ubuntu-server-tip and all the options you want | 17:22 |
| Daviey | The reason i'm suggesting this, as i think the user should be able to run further ubuntu-server-tip on demand | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | the thing about heimdal is it'll set your smb password automatically when you change your kerberos password... so patching smbk5pwd might take a bit more work | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | since i think it lets heimdal handle some of the footwork automagically | 17:23 |
| Daviey | nijaba: I was pondering the idea of a --submit option, so people could easily send a tip via the command line :) | 17:23 |
| mathiaz | Sam-I-Am: does heimdal use the EXT OP to change the ldap password? | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: not for samba.. it just writes the NT hash | 17:24 |
| nijaba | Daviey: that would be cool! I guess it could just use the standard bug reporting interface... | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think theres an exop for md4 | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | it would be nice if it was all exop... | 17:24 |
| nijaba | Daviey: ie: ubuntu-bug command | 17:24 |
| nijaba | Daviey: err.... no | 17:25 |
| Daviey | nijaba: well i was thinking this.. using ubuntu-bug, but it is my understanding that; only works for ubuntu packages, not projects (not a long term issue once it is included), they also *require* a LP account.. and i don't know if this is a good or bad thing for making suggestions | 17:25 |
| nijaba | Daviey: yes, that's what I was just looking at. Might be simpler to have an email sent to some generic address | 17:26 |
| Daviey | nijaba: but we don't install a smtp server on base :/ | 17:26 |
| nijaba | Daviey: for example the ubuntu-server-tip team ml | 17:26 |
| Daviey | nijaba: that is a good idea, then there can be discussion per thread on the validity of the command. | 17:27 |
| psi-jack | Hmm interesting. | 17:28 |
| nijaba | Daviey: well... if smtp is not configured (ie no smtp-mta available) maybe we could just tell the person to send an email to the list? | 17:28 |
| nijaba | Daviey: we need something simple.. | 17:29 |
| psi-jack | I have ldaps:/// in my etc/default/slapd, and it's listening to 636, but tls is failing. | 17:29 |
| nijaba | Daviey: btw, there is a tip about iotop and another about iftop, but none are in main, which, in the principle, breaks rule #3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/server-tips | 17:31 |
| nijaba | Daviey: I do however find the tip useful, so I am wondering if we should request an exception | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | psi-jack: 636 is not tls, its ssl | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | tls uses 389 | 17:32 |
| Clusty | hey | 17:33 |
| Daviey | nijaba: hmm.. do you think we should generally review rule #3 ? | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | in fact, you should probably not be using ssl unless one of your clients doesnt speak tls | 17:33 |
| Clusty | i wanted to give out static IP addresses to certain MACs and dynamic tot he rest | 17:33 |
| Daviey | nijaba: I mean, if the server admin is happy to use universe stuff - then it's enabled in sources.list.. and if they try and run the command, they'll get command-not-found telling them how to install it? | 17:33 |
| VSpike | If I'm connected with ssh to my server and am partway through a long backup script, and if I now discover I have to leave and shutdown my client machine.... | 17:34 |
| Clusty | unfortunately google gives me just how to configure static addresses from the client side | 17:34 |
| nijaba | Daviey: yep, I think it is quite important that we do not advise people to use stuff not in main. but that can be discussed for utilities | 17:34 |
| VSpike | Is there anyway, given that I didn't use nohup or screen, to prevent the backup from stopping? | 17:34 |
| nijaba | Daviey: I would be much more concern for long standing deamons to tell you the truth | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | VSpike: use nohup? :) | 17:34 |
| Clusty | VSpike, if i am not mistaking you can do some magic, to give a process a new parent | 17:34 |
| VSpike | I do not like that Sam-I-Am ;) | 17:35 |
| Daviey | nijaba: yeah, i can see that point.. | 17:35 |
| Clusty | VSpike, not sure thoiugh | 17:35 |
| Clusty | VSpike, consider running all in a VNC ? | 17:35 |
| Daviey | nijaba: TBH, i actually forgot about the rules on the wiki page.. not purposely disobeyed them :( | 17:35 |
| VSpike | Clusty: I have heard of such things, I agree | 17:35 |
| nijaba | Daviey: hey, no prob, we are still in early stages here | 17:35 |
| VSpike | Clusty: it sounds quite voodoo | 17:35 |
| Clusty | VSpike, i know it's possible. but i would not know where to start | 17:36 |
| VSpike | I guess I'll just kill the backup, start screen, restart the process and check it later | 17:36 |
| Daviey | nijaba: "Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud" tip does sail close to the wind.. :/ | 17:36 |
| VSpike | I would rather not, but if there is no other way then c'est la vie | 17:36 |
| nijaba | Daviey: why is that? will be in main in karmic | 17:37 |
| Daviey | "Tips are not advertisement, but information. No paid services or product can be referred to here, except if an exception is granted during a server community meeting." | 17:37 |
| Clusty | VSpike, so you are running backups from a ssh? | 17:37 |
| Clusty | and want to be protected against net stops? | 17:37 |
| VSpike | Clusty: yes, running a script on the server to backup to NAS using tar/ssh/dd | 17:37 |
| Daviey | nijaba: Links to a page that is largely advertisment for Canonical | 17:38 |
| VSpike | Clusty: It's a one-off hack at the moment, just to get one backup | 17:38 |
| Clusty | VSpike, the right thing to do is to cron the task | 17:38 |
| VSpike | Agreed | 17:38 |
| Clusty | since anyways you prolly want to do it weekly.... | 17:38 |
| VSpike | I need to put some logging and error handling in the script and so on | 17:38 |
| VSpike | Clusty: quite | 17:38 |
| nijaba | Daviey: Well, agreed, the cloud pages are pushing our services around it | 17:38 |
| VSpike | this is just a first cut "get a backup" script | 17:38 |
| Clusty | VSpike, till then screen is a quick hack | 17:38 |
| VSpike | Yep :) | 17:39 |
| Clusty | VSpike, there is backup-manager | 17:39 |
| VSpike | oh? don't know it | 17:39 |
| Clusty | it';s a decent proggie | 17:39 |
| Clusty | it supports incremental tars | 17:39 |
| Clusty | so i do daily incremental | 17:39 |
| Clusty | and weekly full backups | 17:39 |
| VSpike | I need that elsewhere | 17:39 |
| Clusty | and it autodeletes olb backups | 17:39 |
| Clusty | old* | 17:39 |
| nijaba | Daviey: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/cloud/uec would be better, I think. I just need to setup a short url for it :P | 17:39 |
| VSpike | Clusty: http://pastebin.com/f6f8f0061 | 17:40 |
| VSpike | Clusty: ^ current script :) | 17:40 |
| Clusty | you're the man :D | 17:40 |
| VSpike | The destination is a WD Mybook World Edition with hacks applied to enable ssh access etc | 17:40 |
| Clusty | sed-master | 17:40 |
| Clusty | :D | 17:40 |
| VSpike | heh | 17:40 |
| Daviey | nijaba: I'm not happy with using tinyurl.com etc either.. one of the tips has that short url | 17:40 |
| Clusty | so any1 can help me with my DHCP issue? | 17:41 |
| Clusty | is it even possible? | 17:41 |
| nijaba | Daviey: yep, that's not great. | 17:41 |
| Daviey | (especially as i heard tinyurl are in difficulty atm) | 17:41 |
| nijaba | Daviey: tell me which url and I'll find a way to get a short url on ubuntu.com for it | 17:41 |
| Daviey | but it's also a third party that could potentially redirect that url to anywhere.. perhaps RHEL website :) | 17:41 |
| VSpike | Clusty / Sam-I-Am : thanks for the help - backup running anew in screen. Gotta dash! | 17:42 |
| VSpike | Clusty: will check out backup-manager | 17:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | Clusty: as long as the mac addresses are different, dhcp should hand out whatever IPs are configured | 17:42 |
| nijaba | Daviey: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/etckeeper.html, I guess | 17:43 |
| Clusty | Sam-I-Am, i want to give a certain mac a certain address | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats handled on the dhcp server | 17:43 |
| Daviey | nijaba: http://tinyurl.com/etckeeper | 17:43 |
| Daviey | yeah | 17:43 |
| Clusty | Sam-I-Am, any place i can start reading? | 17:44 |
| Clusty | Sam-I-Am, the server gives now dynamic to all | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | the default dhcpd.conf file includes examples of how to configure a static IP for a MAC | 17:44 |
| Daviey | nijaba: Is a redirect from ubuntu.com/$NAME a good long term solution.. i imagine that many more tips will have urls.. | 17:45 |
| Daviey | struggling to think of something better tbh.. | 17:45 |
| nijaba | Daviey: I am writing a proposal to our webmaster as we speak. Something like ubuntu.com/go/$name | 17:46 |
| Daviey | nijaba: that would make sense, especially if they can create/update urls regulary on demand. | 17:46 |
| nijaba | yep | 17:47 |
| Daviey | nijaba: It also has the added benefit that a url that is on someones installation can be quickly resolved, if the real link turns bad.. | 17:48 |
| Clusty | Sam-I-Am, http://pastebin.com/m8bd587f | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the example | 17:49 |
| Clusty | this is the closest thing | 17:49 |
| psi-jack | Okay. So ldapsearch -x -Z works for me, presently, but ldapsearch -x -ZZ fails with just this error: ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11) | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're using dns, you can use the hostname... otherwise, put the IP in there | 17:49 |
| Clusty | but how do i tell it i want to give 192.168.0.201 ? | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | after fixed-address | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | fixed-address <ip> | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | psi-jack: does the cert hostname match how you're connecting? | 17:50 |
| psi-jack | Hmm. Well I'd thought. but apparently not. I added -h ldap.mydomain.tld and ZZ worked. | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, so you can set that in ldap.conf | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | under URI | 17:51 |
| * psi-jack nods. | 17:51 | |
| psi-jack | Got it. Finally working. | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | yay | 17:52 |
| psi-jack | But, okay, so I wanted to create an SSL cert that was *.mydomain.tld | 17:52 |
| psi-jack | And that one, failed, because the cn didn't match. | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | that should work fine | 17:53 |
| Clusty | Sam-I-Am, thanks. worked | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm @ installing slapd on karmic and it not asking me for a default admin password | 17:54 |
| psi-jack | Okay, NOW * worked. | 17:55 |
| psi-jack | Poifect. | 17:56 |
| clusty | hey | 18:23 |
| clusty | i am trying to get NIS running | 18:23 |
| clusty | unfortunately this nis thing does not start | 18:23 |
| clusty | it tries to bind to the yp server | 18:24 |
| clusty | and it chokes (after a few attempts) | 18:24 |
| clusty | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo | 18:24 |
| clusty | served as how-to guide | 18:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | mathiaz: think i figured out the nssov problem... its compiled with the wrong libdir | 18:31 |
| clusty | there seems to be some problem with this: if [ "`ypwhich 2>/dev/null`" != "" ] | 18:34 |
| clusty | i cannot do ypwhich | 18:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | yp? | 18:35 |
| clusty | NIS | 18:35 |
| clusty | i am trying to get nis running | 18:35 |
| clusty | Sam-I-Am, ypwhich is supposed to tell me the domain name of the NIS | 18:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | what uses yp/nis anymore? | 18:36 |
| clusty | Sam-I-Am, that would be me :D | 18:37 |
| clusty | you know a better way to have centralized user management? | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | any uh.. reason? | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | try ldap | 18:37 |
| clusty | besides ldap | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | nis is a dinosaur | 18:38 |
| clusty | that feels overkill | 18:38 |
| clusty | really? | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | its insecure and broken | 18:38 |
| clusty | ldap felt complicated | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | your other choice is AD heh | 18:38 |
| clusty | AD? | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | ldap is not bad | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | active directory :) | 18:38 |
| clusty | is that not some windoze thing? | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | it is | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | so theres your choices... | 18:38 |
| clusty | then billy can go suck a lemon | 18:39 |
| clusty | won't promote M$ junk | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | ldap or... AD... which is basically microsoftified ldap | 18:39 |
| clusty | debian fellas were not very outraged by the idea of having NIS | 18:39 |
| clusty | and NIS+ipsec seemed a decently securized variant | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i guess, but openldap is really the way to go | 18:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | if nis worked, we'd have documentation for configuring it in ubuntu heh | 18:40 |
| clusty | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo | 18:41 |
| clusty | seems very straight forward | 18:41 |
| clusty | if it only did not choke | 18:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-authentication.html | 18:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty straightforward | 18:43 |
| clusty | Sam-I-Am, yaiks. this is serious work :D | 18:46 |
| clusty | compared with nis | 18:46 |
| psi-jack | !find pam_ldap.conf | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Package/file pam_ldap.conf does not exist in jaunty | 18:49 |
| jtimberman | ldap is the way to go for single sign on, as it will work with a lot of other places you might also need authn. I would not bother with NIS. | 18:50 |
| nick125 | I thought pam_ldap.conf was just a symlink to another file in Debian/Ubuntu... | 18:50 |
| psi-jack | Well, if it is, it's not been set properly. | 18:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | psi-jack: its just /etc/ldap.conf | 18:51 |
| psi-jack | My problem is ldapscripts aren't working. | 18:54 |
| psi-jack | ldappasswd, fails, cause it tries to use SASL for some aweful reason, no matter what. | 18:54 |
| psi-jack | Even though the ubuntu setup uses -x everywhere I can see. | 18:54 |
| psi-jack | Otherwise, authentication is fully functional so far that I can tell. | 18:55 |
| dmclain | Anyone here familiar with /etc/sysctl.conf? | 19:05 |
| dmclain | Im wondering : Whats the equivalent of kern.maxproc for Ubuntu in /etc/sysctl.conf? I didn't see a default in there for it, but I think I need to set it higher than the default for the box. | 19:05 |
| psi-jack | dmclain: sysctl.conf is not different per distributions. | 19:07 |
| psi-jack | It's a standard thing. | 19:07 |
| dmclain | ah, excellent. Thanks for taking the time :-) | 19:07 |
| sbeattie | dmclain: that said, 'sysctl -a | grep maxproc' doesn't find anything on karmic, so I'm not sure what you're trying to set. | 19:09 |
| psi-jack | True that. | 19:09 |
| psi-jack | Nothing in /proc for maxproc, either. | 19:10 |
| clusty | pffff | 19:11 |
| clusty | i love it when the debian guys jump at your juggular | 19:11 |
| clusty | i love it when the debian guys jump at your juggular | 19:11 |
| clusty | when you mention ubuntu | 19:11 |
| clusty | i feel like lining them all and bitchslapping them silly | 19:11 |
| psi-jack | clusty: I love it when people complain about debian.. NOT | 19:11 |
| clusty | psi-jack, even though my question is more linux rather then distro specific | 19:12 |
| psi-jack | clusty: Point? | 19:12 |
| clusty | psi-jack, debian ppl are knowledgeable, but damn snobs | 19:12 |
| psi-jack | General linux, ##linux | 19:12 |
| clusty | most of them | 19:12 |
| psi-jack | clusty: Funny. Most Debian people I meet, don't know jack crap. | 19:13 |
| clusty | psi-jack, i mean irc ppl | 19:13 |
| psi-jack | Most of the time, in fact, they hide behind their ego. | 19:13 |
| psi-jack | clusty: So do I. | 19:13 |
| clusty | #ubuntu is not very usefull | 19:13 |
| clusty | most questions are quite basic | 19:13 |
| psi-jack | This is why ##linux exists. | 19:14 |
| clusty | and is also insanely large traffic | 19:14 |
| clusty | this is best really. cause it'sa bit more customized | 19:14 |
| clusty | best of both worlds. ppl know their shitr generally | 19:14 |
| clusty | and replies are ubuntu specific | 19:15 |
| clusty | such as conf file location ... | 19:15 |
| psi-jack | How many questions do you have that are ubuntu-specific that cannot be resolved without being distribution-specific? | 19:15 |
| psi-jack | Conf file location /etc | 19:15 |
| psi-jack | Simple | 19:15 |
| clusty | anyways back to debian, i would rather them be a bit more understanding | 19:15 |
| psi-jack | Why do you think Ian Murdock isn't with them anymore? | 19:16 |
| psi-jack | Or even supporting them? | 19:16 |
| clusty | who is he? | 19:16 |
| clusty | sorry for asking :D | 19:16 |
| psi-jack | The founder of Debian. | 19:16 |
| clusty | i know stallman, which i don't particularilyl like | 19:16 |
| clusty | but respect still | 19:16 |
| psi-jack | Heh | 19:17 |
| psi-jack | I wish there was a TurnKey for just making an authentication box and/or a router box. | 19:17 |
| clusty | most starters of trends end up dissociating themselves from their creations | 19:17 |
| clusty | psi-jack, there is | 19:17 |
| psi-jack | clusty: Erm? | 19:17 |
| clusty | there are routing distros | 19:17 |
| clusty | like entangle | 19:17 |
| psi-jack | Like? | 19:17 |
| clusty | or something like that | 19:17 |
| psi-jack | Untangle? | 19:18 |
| clusty | that one :D | 19:18 |
| clusty | might have to cough up some cash if you want really fancy stuff | 19:18 |
| clusty | like balancing and smart filters | 19:19 |
| clusty | spam | 19:19 |
| psi-jack | Bleh | 19:19 |
| * psi-jack turns back on Untangle right away. | 19:19 | |
| psi-jack | Next! | 19:19 |
| clusty | :D | 19:19 |
| psi-jack | Hell, eBox is better | 19:19 |
| clusty | it's fine | 19:20 |
| clusty | only antivir/load balance are paid | 19:20 |
| psi-jack | Yeah, which are standard Linux features. | 19:20 |
| clusty | load balanciong is hard | 19:21 |
| clusty | you cna always implement it yourself | 19:21 |
| clusty | but you loose the fancy GUI thing | 19:21 |
| clusty | or whatever | 19:21 |
| psi-jack | Hmm. Dunno.. So far it looks okay.. Without the load balancing part, it has QoS | 19:22 |
| psi-jack | And tailored QoS at that, not just basics like wondershaper gives | 19:22 |
| psi-jack | It's Debian-based I see? | 19:24 |
| psi-jack | Might toss this on my spare server to test it out, so I have a backup router just in case. | 19:26 |
| psi-jack | Still wondering how in the frack they do it under Windows. | 19:27 |
| clusty | psi-jack, it's debian i guess | 19:27 |
| clusty | psi-jack, you could actually install a package at some point | 19:27 |
| clusty | on top of an ubuntu | 19:27 |
| psi-jack | Using apt? | 19:28 |
| clusty | yes | 19:28 |
| clusty | but when i tried it failed | 19:28 |
| clusty | actually i never got the thing running | 19:28 |
| psi-jack | Oh nice! | 19:28 |
| clusty | cause i did nto want to dedicate a box for just routing | 19:28 |
| psi-jack | I already do. | 19:28 |
| psi-jack | routing, mail, and dns cachine., | 19:28 |
| clusty | i will suggest the big chief buys a new box | 19:28 |
| psi-jack | caching | 19:28 |
| clusty | i did not do cahceing just yet | 19:29 |
| clusty | i am fighting with getting dns working for local pc-s | 19:29 |
| psi-jack | dns caching, not web caching. | 19:29 |
| clusty | i know | 19:29 |
| clusty | dnsmasq | 19:29 |
| clusty | or how is it called | 19:29 |
| psi-jack | No, bind. | 19:29 |
| giovani | bind is incredible bloat for a dns cache | 19:29 |
| clusty | i failed yesterday getting bind to like my local pc-s | 19:29 |
| clusty | i postponed the task for now | 19:30 |
| clusty | and wanna get central user management | 19:30 |
| clusty | guess there is not way around it | 19:30 |
| clusty | but using ldap | 19:30 |
| psi-jack | What I reaaaaly want, though, is a turnkey like this, for just authentication. | 19:30 |
| psi-jack | Like you just said, central user management. | 19:30 |
| clusty | i never set up such a thing, so it's a learnign 3experience | 19:31 |
| KillMeNow | i reaaaaally want Telekinesis and Omnipotence but that's not gonna happen anytime soon | 19:31 |
| clusty | i am a self taught sys admin | 19:31 |
| clusty | :D | 19:31 |
| psi-jack | It's a pain in the arse. | 19:31 |
| clusty | wonder are there ppl actually learning linux in school? | 19:31 |
| psi-jack | clusty: So am I, since before Linux 1.0.0 was released, I've been using Linux. | 19:31 |
| clusty | besides taking certifications | 19:31 |
| psi-jack | I've 0 certifications. | 19:31 |
| psi-jack | Just a lot of hands-on experience and know-how. | 19:32 |
| clusty | i sinstalled linux in 5th grade first D: | 19:32 |
| clusty | that was like 15 years ago | 19:32 |
| clusty | was damn strange toy, i did not know what it was good for | 19:32 |
| giovani | 15 years ago, linux 1.0 hadn't been released | 19:32 |
| clusty | think it was first slackware | 19:32 |
| clusty | 10 years | 19:33 |
| clusty | not 15 | 19:33 |
| clusty | what is linux 1.0? | 19:33 |
| clusty | some homebew thing before distro concept? | 19:33 |
| clusty | :D | 19:33 |
| giovani | ... | 19:33 |
| giovani | the kernel version | 19:33 |
| clusty | ohh | 19:34 |
| clusty | holly molly | 19:34 |
| clusty | what about first slackware? | 19:34 |
| clusty | what kernel did that have? | 19:34 |
| clusty | lemme look | 19:34 |
| giovani | probably slightly before that | 19:34 |
| clusty | had the most god awful WM :D | 19:35 |
| clusty | anyways i started using linux full time in university | 19:35 |
| clusty | and that was debian | 19:35 |
| giovani | slackware 1? | 19:36 |
| giovani | highly doubt there was a window manager :) | 19:36 |
| clusty | there was a horrid TWM-like thing | 19:36 |
| clusty | can hardly call it WM :D | 19:36 |
| clusty | slackware 1 came in 1992 | 19:37 |
| clusty | twm came in 1987 | 19:37 |
| clusty | or so wiki says | 19:38 |
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| psi-jack | Hmmm. I might look into zeroshell. | 19:42 |
| clusty | psi-jack, that is cool i hear | 19:52 |
| clusty | psi-jack, a lot of people are doing mlppp with it | 19:53 |
| psi-jack | mlppp? | 19:53 |
| clusty | psi-jack, multi link ppp | 19:53 |
| psi-jack | Ewww | 19:53 |
| clusty | psi-jack, you basically bind multiple DSL lines | 19:53 |
| clusty | awesome | 19:53 |
| clusty | :D | 19:53 |
| clusty | for a multitude of reasons: | 19:53 |
| psi-jack | sadism? | 19:53 |
| psi-jack | :p | 19:53 |
| clusty | 1 you get all the transfer rate in 1 conection | 19:53 |
| clusty | 2 you bypass DPI | 19:54 |
| clusty | in canada all DSL is screwed | 19:54 |
| clusty | all DSL traffic is throtelled | 19:54 |
| clusty | no torrents, no encrypted stuff | 19:54 |
| clusty | psi-jack, i am having ldap trouble | 19:55 |
| clusty | following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html | 19:55 |
| giovani | in canada, dsl owns you! | 19:55 |
| clusty | giovani, yeap.the EWUL bell is choking the life of the net | 19:55 |
| giovani | clusty: I don't know what "no encrypted stuff" means -- I assure you the major candian isps don't block ssl | 19:55 |
| clusty | they dont block | 19:55 |
| clusty | here is deal: | 19:56 |
| clusty | 80% of dsl goes through bell infrastructure | 19:56 |
| clusty | bell is slowing down every1 cause they claim their netowrk cant do full speed | 19:56 |
| clusty | so whatever DPI can't figure out it assumes it's not legitimate traffic | 19:56 |
| clusty | all SSL=torrents | 19:57 |
| clusty | in their mind | 19:57 |
| giovani | I don't believe that | 19:57 |
| giovani | it's easy enough to test | 19:57 |
| giovani | find an ssl webserver and do a speed test on it | 19:57 |
| clusty | i did test | 19:58 |
| clusty | there is a big fuss now about it | 19:58 |
| clusty | i mean ppl going to ottawa and screaming BELL GO HOME :D | 19:58 |
| clusty | anyways, i installed ldap set the admin password, but when i do a ldapsearch the thing rejects credentials | 19:59 |
| KillMeNow | which is why i'm praying that Net Neutrality laws come to life here in the US | 20:00 |
| giovani | clusty: probably doing the wrong auth, etc | 20:00 |
| clusty | giovani, me, the good little tool is doing copy paste from site | 20:00 |
| giovani | clusty: sasl or simple? | 20:00 |
| clusty | giovani, not clue what that is :D | 20:01 |
| clusty | ldapsearch -xLLL -b cn=config -D cn=admin,cn=config -W olcDatabase={1}hdb | 20:01 |
| giovani | time to read more about ldap then | 20:01 |
| clusty | is what i am doing | 20:01 |
| clusty | giovani, so yes, that is sassl :D | 20:06 |
| mookatt | hi everyone, looking for advice --- i'm very much in need of generating pdf's of internal webpages on my dapper server and I can do this with firefox+commandline print extension. I need gtk+ toolkit however. How big of an issue is it to have gtk+ on my server? Obviously it's overhead not needed and may present security issues, but I'm not seasoned enough to know exactly what caveats will creep up | 20:09 |
| Claw6 | anybody may can help me with mysqldump ? | 20:11 |
| Claw6 | i run it but nothing seems to happen | 20:12 |
| mookatt | what do you need to know? | 20:12 |
| Claw6 | may im doing something wrong | 20:12 |
| mookatt | what command did you run? | 20:12 |
| Claw6 | mysql -u root -p -h localhost db260642497 < dumpDB_.sql | 20:12 |
| Claw6 | where will it be saved to ? | 20:12 |
| mookatt | try mysql -u root -p -h localhost db > dump.sql | 20:13 |
| mookatt | > instead of < | 20:13 |
| Claw6 | mh... seems processing | 20:15 |
| Claw6 | well i just copied that commandline from a website | 20:16 |
| Claw6 | did not recognized that < was the wrong way | 20:16 |
| mookatt | the < typically means to read that file as input and the > means to put the result of the command to a file | 20:17 |
| mookatt | man mysqldump | 20:17 |
| KillMeNow | you can also "stream" in a sql dump file from within the mysql command line, just FYI | 20:18 |
| Claw6 | where will the dumpDB_.sql will be stored to ? | 20:18 |
| Claw6 | im realy new to unix | 20:18 |
| KillMeNow | in the directory you ran the mysqldump command | 20:18 |
| KillMeNow | if you don't explicitly state the path | 20:18 |
| KillMeNow | so if you're in /tmp | 20:19 |
| KillMeNow | and run mysqldump -u root -p --database > DBsql.sql | 20:19 |
| KillMeNow | you should find a DBsql.sql file in the /tmp dir | 20:19 |
| mookatt | anybody have any opinions on installing gtk+ toolkit on a dapper server? | 20:20 |
| clusty | well gonna run home. hopefully electricity is back up | 20:21 |
| Claw6 | KillMeNow nope it does not appear there | 20:24 |
| Claw6 | or its not even created | 20:24 |
| Claw6 | should i get a echo out when its done? | 20:25 |
| KillMeNow | don't think so, don't remember getting one in the past | 20:25 |
| KillMeNow | ls -la | 20:25 |
| KillMeNow | mysqldump -u[user] -p[password] [databasename] > dumpfile.sql | 20:26 |
| KillMeNow | that is the command you should run | 20:27 |
| KillMeNow | you can do it like this: mysqldump -u[user] -p[password] [databasename] > /path/to/dumpfile.sql | 20:27 |
| KillMeNow | if you want to explicitly state the path the archive should be dumped to | 20:27 |
| KillMeNow | if you leave the -p blank, it should prompt you for a password | 20:28 |
| === genii_ is now known as genii | ||
| uvirtbot | New bug: #415559 in freeradius (universe) "Unable to open file "/etc/freeradius/sql/mysql/dialup.conf": No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415559 | 20:30 |
| Claw6 | well after importing the db (it should overwrite an existing one) do i have to restart mysql or anything like that ? | 20:33 |
| KillMeNow | nope... shouldn't need to | 20:33 |
| KillMeNow | however, if you accidentally imported a blank file, i think that *may* bork your old database | 20:34 |
| KillMeNow | I know I've accidentally taken a empty .sql DB backup before and over wrote the DB i was trying to backup | 20:34 |
| KillMeNow | thankfully i did have good backups stored elsewhere | 20:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #412059 in vtun (universe) "MIR for vtun" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412059 | 20:51 |
| psi-jack | Hmmm | 23:00 |
| psi-jack | Well, I'd tried zeroshell, and was not impressed.. At all. | 23:00 |
| psi-jack | Now, what I seriously would like, is like a distribution or "appliance" that uses gosa. | 23:01 |
| psi-jack | That... Would be utterly sweet. | 23:01 |
| Djannakhan | Hi, | 23:05 |
| Djannakhan | I've a issue with locale on a fresh new ubuntu server 9.04 install | 23:06 |
| Djannakhan | http://pastebin.ca/1534376 | 23:06 |
| Djannakhan | dpkg-reconfigure locales won't solve the issue | 23:06 |
| Djannakhan | (it gave the same issue) | 23:06 |
| sub | Djannakhan: Try installing the language pack - sudo apt-get install language-pack-en | 23:08 |
| Djannakhan | sub: it's allready installed (i've just run the command) | 23:09 |
| Djannakhan | http://pastebin.ca/1534383 | 23:10 |
| Djannakhan | I still got the warning | 23:10 |
| Djannakhan | strange this file : /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local does not exists on this server, while on other servers, it exists | 23:11 |
| sub | Ah hmm, have you tried manually running locale-gen ? | 23:13 |
| sub | I believe it's what's actually responsible for populating that directory/file | 23:14 |
| Djannakhan | sub: yes I did and it didn't change anything | 23:15 |
| Djannakhan | sub: I'll retry just now, as i've reinstalled the system this afternoon | 23:16 |
| Djannakhan | sub: still no change | 23:16 |
| Djannakhan | same warning on 'locale' command | 23:16 |
| sub | I don't know, I'd say you could try local-gen --purge but I'm not sure if that will really fix anything or somehow make it worse. You lost me =) | 23:19 |
| Djannakhan | ;) | 23:20 |
| Djannakhan | don't solve the problem either | 23:21 |
| Djannakhan | but what's strange is that en_US.ISO-8859-15 is not regenerated | 23:21 |
| Djannakhan | could this be the problem ? if I change the system local to en_US.ISO-8859-1, which is generated? | 23:21 |
| Djannakhan | Yes ! | 23:24 |
| Djannakhan | I've changed to en_US.ISO-8859-1, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, 'locales' command still show the issue, but after a reboot it's gone ! | 23:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #415627 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server + akonadi-server = conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415627 | 23:26 |
| sub | excellent | 23:28 |
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