[00:00] <Dragnslcr> I'm not sure if you can have applications access an open wallet without using a password. I think I only have Kopete using kwallet
[00:01] <marco> kde 3.5 has support'
[00:01] <marco> ?
[00:01] <kaddi> EagleScreen: if memory serves me right, you can also select "always allow access to wallet, then you only need to enter your wallet password once at boot and all other program can access it freely.. it just isn't really secure that way :p
[00:02] <Dragnslcr> marco- if it support for KDE 3.5 hasn't ended yet, it will fairly soon
[00:04] <Aqui1a> Does anybody know if it's possible to boot from CD on a Sony Vaio laptop?
[00:05] <LuisJa> of course...
[00:05] <LuisJa> just change boot order at the start of the boot
[00:05] <LuisJa> to cd-rw dvd
[00:05] <Aqui1a> I've done that. I made 'internal optical drive' number one
[00:06] <Aqui1a> It still skipped it altogether, and went on to boot Windows
[00:06] <BluesKaj> Aqui1a, are you sure that is you cdrom drive ?
[00:07] <Aqui1a> No lol
[00:07] <Aqui1a> but none of the other options could be it
[00:07] <Aqui1a> So I'm guessing that it is my DVD Drive
[00:09] <BluesKaj> well you need akubuntu iso image burned to a cd-r or cd-rw
[00:11] <Aqui1a> You're probably right...
[00:11] <BluesKaj> you can download the livecd iso and burn it in windows then pop it in your optical drive :) and you should be able to boot the live cd
[00:11] <BluesKaj> back into the drive
[00:11] <Aqui1a> Hmm
[00:11]  * BluesKaj is beginning to repeat
[00:12] <Aqui1a> lol
[00:12] <BluesKaj> himself
[00:12] <Aqui1a> No need
[00:12] <Aqui1a> I fully understand
[00:12] <marco> will Kde be (one day) the default WM in Ubuntu?
[00:13] <_genuser_> Hello People.
[00:13] <_genuser_> I'm having issue getting sound to work.
[00:15] <BluesKaj> marco, no kde is a desktop environment for kubuntu, like gnome is adektop envirniment for ubuntu
[00:16] <MsMaco> if ubuntu used kde, what would happen to kubuntu?
[00:17] <kaddi> it would use gnome :D
[00:17]  * kaddi feels like she deserved that parting message, also it probably was random :p
[00:18] <BluesKaj> nothing MsMaco ,  kubuntu is kde
[00:18] <MsMaco> im aware
[00:19] <MsMaco> but with what marco asked
[00:19] <BluesKaj> !kde | MsMaco
[00:19] <MsMaco> if ubuntu switched to kde....what would be the point of kubuntu?
[00:19] <MsMaco> *sigh* i know. i have commit access in kde and a handful of patches in kubuntu
[00:19] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[00:20] <MsMaco> hmm nice that that factoid now tells you which package to install
[00:21] <MsMaco> im just sayin... marco asked if ubuntu would switch to kde. hypothetically, if that were to happen (which...er...no), then either kubuntu would need to use a DE that doesnt start with a K or would have to go away
[00:21] <_genuser_> guys can someone help debug sound issues?
[00:22] <_genuser_> amarok fails to playing saying jack can't start.
[00:22] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version _genuser_ ?
[00:23] <_genuser_> jaunty, 9.04.  kde 4.2.2.
[00:24] <BluesKaj> alsa-utils installed ?
[00:24] <_genuser_> BluesKaj: I don't remember manually installing it. I would say no.
[00:25] <BluesKaj> jack is something i've avoided over the yrs ...it's too messy for my simple mind to comprehend
[00:26] <_genuser_> BluesKaj: in other distros, I've also avoided JACK. I haven't really had a need to mix multiple audio sources. But I'm not sure how to debug an k/ubuntu installation.
[00:26] <BluesKaj> dealing with alsa, pulseaudio and media settings difficult enuff
[00:26] <_genuser_> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils says it's already installed.
[00:27] <BluesKaj> have you checked alsamixer in the terminal ?
[00:27] <_genuser_> BluesKaj: alsamixer fails. snd_ctl_open failed.
[00:27] <_genuser_> probably sound driver problem...
[00:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[00:28] <MsMaco> kubuntu doesnt include jack by default...
[00:28] <BluesKaj> alsa uses the driver , pulseaudio is the default sound server in kubuntu now
[00:28] <MsMaco> nuh uh
[00:28] <MsMaco> kubuntu doesnt include pulseaudio
[00:28] <MsMaco> only ubuntu does
[00:28] <_genuser_> BluesKaj: ok rebooting. I just realized the vmware didn't connect my soundcard. thanks for helping me debug.
[00:28] <_genuser_> :)
[00:29] <MsMaco> kubuntu uses phonon as an abstraction layer to make writing video/audio apps easier
[00:29]  * BluesKaj shakes his head ...nm
[00:29] <phh> MsMaco: software mixing is done by alsa ?
[00:29] <MsMaco> BluesKaj: it is very common to see pulseaudio on kubuntu though
[00:29] <MsMaco> phh: alsa doesnt do software mixing unless you use dmix as the device
[00:30] <MsMaco> phh: pulseaudio does software mixing in ubuntu, and i assume phonon must know how to do it too
[00:30] <phh> MsMaco: dmix is the default setting for a long a time now
[00:30] <MsMaco> BluesKaj: the reason its common is that java depends on it
[00:30] <BluesKaj> ok then why is pulse audio installed on my setup, when i never installed it separately
[00:30] <phh> MsMaco: phono is just a library, no daemon, it won't do any mixing
[00:30] <MsMaco> because java depends on it
[00:30] <MsMaco> phh: then i have no idea how the mixing works
[00:31] <MsMaco> and im pretty sure dmix isnt the default device...i recall doing a writeup on my blog when pulseaudio went into ubuntu on how to change to dmix since a few apps (like mythtv) couldnt do pulseaudio and would block on it without dmi
[00:31] <MsMaco> *dmix
[00:32] <MsMaco> unless its changed in the last year...
[00:32] <BluesKaj> pulesaudio afaik has replaced esd , and it doesn't work in some cases, such as pci soundcards that have fallback driver modules
[00:33] <MsMaco> fallback driver modules?
[00:34] <MsMaco> but yes, its the esd replacement
[00:35] <BluesKaj> yes quasi-kernel modules as it was explained , sort of like X is now and depends on HAL. That's as much as iI can recall about the article I read
[00:35] <MsMaco> and im sure kubuntu doesnt include pulseaudio because ive been there when an audio developer and a few kubuntu developers were arguing about "blah blah pulseaudio causes bugs!" "so report the bugs!"
[00:37] <BluesKaj> MsMaco, I agree about the bugs , cuz it was working unders test a while ago , but now pulseaudio hands off to this " fall back" which has the same name as my soundcard
[00:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Is this in any of the repositories yet http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle
[00:38] <MsMaco> interesting...
[00:39] <MsMaco> one of the complaints about pulse is that when phonon realizes it cant lock the sound device and has to use pulse instead it says something like "Intel ALC883 failed. Falling back to PulseAudio" and then users think it means their hardware broke
[00:39] <MsMaco> audio guy and i both went "er...so fix phonon's notification strings?"
[00:39] <BluesKaj> which makes me think it's some kind of audio-kernel module associated with my soundcard
[00:39] <Sertse> hello
[00:40] <Sertse> what do you make Konq work w/ gmail?
[00:40] <BluesKaj> Sertse, which kubuntu version ?
[00:41] <BluesKaj> the newer kubuntu versions have fixed the problem with gmail ..mostly
[00:41] <MsMaco> Konqueror is just kinda ..umm....boo
[00:42] <MsMaco> i think Arora (the maybe-replacement for Konq in 9.10...undecided so far) works with it
[00:42] <MsMaco> or well...i think a lot of us just use firefox instead
[00:42] <MsMaco> Slashdot was the reason Riddell asked "can we replace Konqueror?"
[00:43] <BluesKaj> arora and rekonq are boring browsers :P
[00:44] <aqui1a> Hi :)
[00:44]  * BluesKaj is running chromium-browser
[00:44] <aqui1a> It worked lol
[00:44] <BluesKaj> the iso ?
[00:44] <aqui1a> Yup
[00:44] <kaddi> great
[00:44] <aqui1a> Successfully installed
[00:45] <aqui1a> :)
[00:45] <aqui1a> and I also got my wireless network working too. Double fun.
[00:45] <kaddi> that's lucky!
[00:45] <kaddi> :D
[00:45] <BluesKaj> yeah , that's afirst :)
[00:53] <kaddi> ok, no I need to ask.. is it possilbel to disable ctrl+c for konversation? -.- I seem unable to not hit it every 2 hours -.-
[00:53] <kaddi> *now
[00:53] <kaddi> that would be an exception I need to set with global shortcuts, no?
[00:56] <BluesKaj> ctrl+c ...are you copying something ?
[00:57] <kaddi> BluesKaj: no I just keep accidentally hitting that combination.. I seem to be magically attracted to it, which then kills the program.
[00:57] <kaddi> Konversation is the only program that I unintentionally close with that shortcut
[00:59] <BluesKaj> I use it all the time to copy highlighted text but it doesn't kill konversation
[00:59] <MsMaco> konversation doesnt have settings -> configure shortcuts ?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> TV time ..BBL
[01:00] <kaddi> it does, but it is not set to ctrl+c, it was set to ctrl+q, but I removed that some time ago
[01:01] <kaddi> i thought it was a setting from kwin or something?
[01:04] <kaddi> ok, well I'm off to bed, too.. so see you all later.
[01:13] <m0u5e> all my gtk icons look like the gnome default, is there a way to change them?
[01:28] <heinkel_111> i believe it is possible to upgrade kubuntu (8.10->9.04) from the DVD download using sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[01:28] <heinkel_111> i am looking for some kind of confirmation
[01:28] <heinkel_111> anyone seen any documentation about upgrading from the dvd anywhere?
[01:32] <Aqui1a> lol
[01:33] <m0u5e> all my gtk icons look like the gnome default, is there a way to change them?
[01:33] <m0u5e> also, all my applications in my previous session startup by default, how do i disable this "feature"
[01:34] <nejode> heinkel: you can only upgrade using the alternate CD, not the desktop Live CD version
[01:34] <m0u5e> how do I apply my KDE theme to my gnome applications, this is really frustrating
[01:35] <heinkel_111> nejode: yes..or the dvd i assume
[01:35] <heinkel_111> i have done this once before but memory is failing a little
[01:36] <heinkel_111> i think the process is as follows> modify sources.list so dvd is sole source
[01:36] <heinkel_111> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:37] <nejode> heinkel: in the DVD, can you see the debs in alphabetically arranged directories?
[01:37] <heinkel_111> after that, enable the other repositories and sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <heinkel_111> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:37] <heinkel_111> should finish it
[01:38] <m0u5e> also, how do you install applications in kde? does kde have its own version of the add / remove application manager in ubuntu?
[01:38] <MsMaco> kpackagekit
[01:38] <MsMaco> if youre using 9.04
[01:38] <MsMaco> if an older version: adept
[01:39] <MsMaco> in the kicker menu, go to computer, then there's a KPackageKit option
[01:39] <MsMaco> m0u5e: ^
[01:39] <nejode> heinkel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading  ...half way down the page
[01:40] <m0u5e> MsMaco: thx
[01:41] <m0u5e> MsMaco: do yknow how to fix gtk apps from looking like crap?
[01:41] <heinkel_111> nejode:  answer is yes i can see the alphabetically ordered folders
[01:41] <MsMaco> uhh.... choose a different theme in systemsettings -> appearance
[01:41] <MsMaco> there should be a GTK section of the appearance thingy
[01:41] <MsMaco> you can make it force gtk apps to mimic the qt theme
[01:42] <heinkel_111> nejode: if I understand correctly the method described on that webpage kicks off a somewhat graphic upgrading program
[01:43] <heinkel_111> nejode: i want text-based, to get apt feedback when things go wrong
[01:43] <MsMaco> sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:46] <kavurt> can someone tell me how to install and setup compiz in kubuntu?
[01:47] <nejode> heinkel: well man, sudo apt-cdrom add , comment out all other entries in your souces.list
[01:47] <nejode> *source3s.list
[01:47] <nejode> *sources.list
[01:48] <nejode> and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade...
[01:49] <nejode> but you should do sudo aptitude update first of course
[01:49] <nejode> I've never done it that way, just speculating
[01:54] <m0u5e> MsMaco: i cant find it under settings :(
[02:00] <MsMaco> m0u5e: is it 9.04 or 9.10?
[02:00] <MsMaco> 9.04 should have it
[02:00] <m0u5e> 9.04
[02:02] <m0u5e> MsMaco: weird now its appearing... 6__6; maybe its something I installed
[02:02] <m0u5e> MsMaco: thx for the help :)
[02:03] <duncan> anyone know how Kubuntu 9.10 is shaping up?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> duncan, join #ubuntu+1 to find out
[02:06] <MsMaco> duncan: pretty :)
[02:06] <MsMaco> duncan: and i think networking may be sorted now too
[02:27] <heinkel_111> upgrade time, back to whine about problems later ;-)
[02:36] <axiom> Second time trying to upgrade to KDE 4.3.0, still get no window decorations.  .kde folder was deleted.  Advice?
[03:05] <Guest95147> hey all
[03:16] <duncan> anyone been able to get PIM synced with google?
[03:16] <duncan> as far as contacts and calendar
[03:20] <maemaro> hi
[03:20] <maemaro> como estan todos
[03:21] <maemaro> how are  you every body
[03:30] <yvan300> hello all, i'm new to kubuntu and would like to know how to enable desktop effects
[03:31] <yvan300> anyone?
[03:32] <Trebacz> Applied updates from Kubuntu backports for the first time to Kubuntu 4.3 my window decorators have disappeared
[03:33] <Trebacz> I can get them to reappear on a session per session basis by executing "emerald --replace &" at the command line
[03:34] <Trebacz> Once I restart the window decorators are missing again. I'm assuming I have some odd conflict in my configuration and would like to fix the root cause
[03:38] <Trebacz> xorg.log dosn't report anything unusual. Did a lot of web searching on the issue, but couldn't find a match for my issue. Thoughts?
[04:16] <Jonty> handbrahandbrake
[04:26] <xsebsx> hey there, i am on a wireless connection, i set up my cisco wtr160n router when i had windows originally, but i've gotten rid of windows since then, my problem is, i downloaded nicotine and though i can connect to the soulseek server i cannot connect to other users, when i try to download a file, it says cannot connect on the status, anyone can help me out?
[04:34] <darthanubis> xsebsx: this has NOTHING to do with kubuntu
[04:34] <darthanubis> forward your ports like the soulseek page details
[04:35] <amason_> wtf is soulseek ?
[04:35] <xsebsx> well, this never happened before when i had windows
[04:35] <xsebsx> i didnt change the connection settings
[04:35] <darthanubis> repeat, has NOTHING to do with Kubuntu
[04:35] <xsebsx> theres no firewall
[04:35] <xsebsx> so
[04:36] <darthanubis> so your wap is NOT a firewall?
[04:36] <darthanubis> amason_: google it like everyone does
[04:37] <amason_> darthanubis: no thanks. i just won't try and help.
[04:37] <darthanubis> no sweat
[04:37] <darthanubis> nothing to help with
[04:39] <xsebsx> ok then
[04:39] <xsebsx> the other thing was
[04:39] <xsebsx> i've no sound on totem
[04:40] <xsebsx> when opening mp3s
[04:41] <darthanubis> xsebsx: have you been using linux for only 30minutes or so?
[04:42] <darthanubis> seeing as you have no idea what kind of router you have is not a good place to start
[04:42] <xsebsx> no, however on this computer I have been using linux for only a couple of days, originally i had no sound and had to fix that
[04:42] <darthanubis> And of course your router/gateway has a firewall
[04:42] <xsebsx> i know what kind of router i have, i have a cisco wtr160n
[04:42] <xsebsx> wireless router
[04:43] <darthanubis> wrong
[04:43] <xsebsx> explain
[04:43] <darthanubis> it is a WRT160n
[04:43] <darthanubis> made by Linksys a Cisco owned company
[04:43] <xsebsx> thats exactly the same only caps
[04:43] <darthanubis> and it IS a firewall
[04:43] <darthanubis> no its not
[04:44] <darthanubis> can't you even scroll up to see you misspelled it and got the functionality wrong?
[04:44] <darthanubis> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRT160N
[04:44] <darthanubis> Advanced wireless security and SPI firewall protection designed to help safeguard your home network and computers from most Internet attacks.
[04:45] <xsebsx> great, how do i shut that off
[04:45] <darthanubis> I like to help people who at least take the time to READ their manual, you know, do your homework.
[04:46] <darthanubis> I'm not going to setup your network after I educate you about it, then play your mp3s for you, but happy reading. I'm sure someone will spoon feed you, but not I
[04:47] <xsebsx> you might want to go to www.freedomainradio.com
[04:50] <xsebsx> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1534668
[05:00] <xsebsx> fixed
[05:05] <fedel> Hi everybody.
[05:05] <fedel> I tried to update KDE to KDE4.3
[05:06] <fedel> I inserted a a URL in source.list and run apt-get update and upgrade
[05:07] <fedel> it returns: The following packages have been kept back
[05:07] <fedel> and 66 packages were not update
[05:07] <fedel> What can I do?
[05:08] <fedel> hum...now...I run aptitude upgrade and it works. Why?
[05:38] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty.
[05:38] <Psi-Jack> So, oddness happened, and my sound card is now showing up in the wrong order.
[06:18] <jurist> yop
[06:18] <jurist> anybody home
[06:19] <jurist> екарны бабай
[07:24] <lore_> hi
[07:35] <pheonix> hi lore
[07:35] <pheonix> hi lore_
[07:51] <phil__> 这里说中文吗？？？
[07:54] <phil__> hello
[07:55] <pheonix> hello phil_
[07:55] <pheonix> hello phil__
[07:56] <phil__> i have a doubt
[07:59] <phil__> After I upgrade to 9.10,watch online video,the player no sound after a period of time the
[08:01] <eMyller> hey people
[08:01] <eMyller> can i 'upgrade' from my stable jaunty to kk alpha 4?
[08:01] <phil__> But the voice of the computer itself, what's this all about
[08:01] <eMyller> if yes, how would i do it? i'm wondering if i just have to add kk's sources list to my jaunty
[08:03] <frost_> Hia, Anyone able to check this post out please, and see if they got any solution ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175102&highlight=XFi
[08:05] <eMyller> brb
[08:05] <phil__> Who can help me? Thinks
[08:15] <phil__> - -
[08:34] <eMyller> can i 'upgrade' from my stable jaunty to karmic alpha 4?
[08:35] <xsebsx> hello, i am new to kde, how do you get the taskbar to display only the windows of the current desktop according to which desktop divider you click on?
[08:37] <eMyller> xsebsx: right click the task manager bar and find this option
[08:38] <eMyller> xsebsx: ops, go to 'settings'
[08:38] <eMyller> it's there.
[08:42] <xsebsx> eMyller: I can't find that
[08:42] <xsebsx> only options regarding to where the widgets are positioned
[08:42] <xsebsx> and where the taskbar goes and should it hide
[08:42] <eMyller> xsebsx: these are the *panel* options
[08:44] <eMyller> right click an empty area on your taskbar and go to "Task Manager Settings"
[08:44] <eMyller> make sure you actually have a task manager in your panel.
[08:46] <xsebsx> eMyller: how do i make sure of that?
[08:46] <xsebsx> i mean
[08:46] <xsebsx> what's the difference
[08:47] <eMyller> xsebsx: are you seeing any window entry in the panel?
[08:47] <xsebsx> i mean to talk about the wee bar horizontally set whereupon the k menu rests on its leftmost end
[08:48] <eMyller> xsebsx: hit ctrl+f2 (to go to 2nd desktop) then right click and empty area on your panel, where the windows should be listed in.
[08:48] <eMyller> xsebsx: then tell me what options you see
[08:50] <xsebsx> eMyller: that's my problem though, that no matter what desktop i'm on the windows remain listed leaving not that empty spot you speak about
[08:50] <eMyller> ah, ok. got it.
[08:50] <eMyller> so, follow this:
[08:51] <eMyller> 1) unlock the widgets, it they're locked
[08:51] <eMyller> click that button in the panel's corner, to access its options
[08:52] <xsebsx> widgets are already unlocked
[08:52] <eMyller> 3) *hover* the windows list. you should see a little green arrow in the left side of the windows list. click on it
[08:53] <xsebsx> hmmm
[08:53] <xsebsx> left side?
[08:53] <eMyller> now you might see those options i told you about
[08:53] <xsebsx> i got lost in the hover
[08:54] <eMyller> xsebsx: hover the windows list with the panels options active.
[08:54] <eMyller> it's a special viewing mode, that you can grab the widgets in the panel and move them around
[08:55] <eMyller> you can also find this *very little* green arrow in every widget you hover
[08:55] <eMyller> check if you find the task manager's one
[08:56] <xsebsx> i'm not talking about widgets here though
[08:56] <xsebsx> i'm talking about the horizontal bottom bar
[08:57] <xsebsx> there's a widget on it that shows the desktops
[08:57] <eMyller> xsebsx: i know
[08:58] <eMyller> xsebsx: did you follow what i said?
[08:58] <xsebsx> worked
[08:58] <xsebsx> thanks
[08:58] <eMyller> np
[08:59] <eMyller> xsebsx: did you go through the green arrow?
[08:59] <xsebsx> yep
[08:59] <eMyller> k :)
[09:00] <eMyller> you can find those same options if you right click an empty area of the widget. it might be easier now.
[09:50] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, how do i find out what wireless card driver i have installed?
[09:52] <Silurian> ok i have kubuntu installed on a pc of mine and now i would like to put ubuntu server on instead the problem is the cd won't boot any ideas]
[09:55] <MadAGu> hey guys anyone knows how to use dolphin instead of nautilus with firefox?
[10:14] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, how do i find out what wireless card driver i have installed?
[10:15] <monox> QuantumKaos: open your case and look at the label.
[10:15] <monox> QuantumKaos: or try `lspci`
[10:19] <QuantumKaos> monox: :D
[10:29] <syntax> how do you install the new konversation on ubuntu if you got the old one
[10:53] <apparle> plz suggest a GPS software
[11:12] <CedricWoSto> hey, I would like to know which irc channel you use as for web programming and php ?
[11:12] <CedricWoSto> furthermore, which tech news sites do you check ?
[11:12] <CedricWoSto> ty :)
[11:14] <tsimpson> CedricWoSto: this is not a general chat channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:14] <CedricWoSto> sorry about that
[11:19] <u19809> hi all, my shiretoko 3.5 browser is unable to preview pdf files ... what might be wrong ?
[11:20]  * Lacsap doing something else
[11:23] <combo> can someone tell me how to activate DVI connector to my monitor (samsung syncmaster 740BF). i have installed AIGLX already, here is my xorg http://wklej.org/id/136942/ what part modify to use DVI instead analog connector
[12:25] <Wouterdt> hello
[12:25] <Wouterdt> I've installed Kubuntu on a PC, a TV is attached trough a DVI -> HDMI cable
[12:26] <Wouterdt> now I've got some overscan, is there a way to compensate that?
[12:29] <vitalblue> hi to everyone, is there anyway to install a plugin in firefox to play audio streams (as web-radio)?
[12:29] <vitalblue> I tried the webpage in konqueror and it works but i can't configure it in firefox
[12:38] <tolonuga> hi. 9.04/x86 kubuntu: wifi ins't working for me, it seems to be the ath5k driver. In the hardware manager I can click "Accept" when asked if I want to use madwifi instead, but as a result nothing happends - after a reboot still ath5k module is loaded instead of madwifi. is there a manual way to trigger the ath5k/madwifi choice?
[12:41] <carwash> Hi, how can i enable "big desktop" with two monitors in kubuntu. The display system settings panel finds both monitors, but they are placed on top of each other in the placementview.
[12:41] <houcine> salut tt l monde ya t il kelkun ki parle français g besoin d'aide
[12:44] <tolonuga> if you have an nvidia graphic card, it comes with a settings tool by nvidia, that works great for me. I think ati has something similar. if you have a different graphic card: sorry, no idea.
[12:45] <carwash> sorry, i forgot to say I have an ATI-card. using amdcccle (previously fglrxsettings) i can only set it up to use the screens as two independent x screens, not as one big desktop
[12:46] <tolonuga> hmm, after I manually "rmmod ath5k" I can run the hardware tool to switch to madwifi driver. and it works - It connects to my local wifi (wrt54gl with wpa2-psk) fine and gets an ip, while ath5k claimed to do that as well and timed out during dhcp - didn't receive anything. known bug?
[12:48] <tolonuga> sorry carwash, I only know the nvidia tool in detail, where you can enable "twinview" which is one big desktop spanned across two screens (or one a copy of the other, whatever you prefer).
[12:48] <carwash> I just noticed a new ati-driver today
[12:48] <carwash> I'll try that
[12:48] <Bou> houcine:fr!
[12:48] <Bou> oops
[13:01] <Peter__> fdgdg
[13:02] <tolonuga> I want to configure kubuntu to load "ath_pci" when it boots. I could put a modprobe into rc.local scripts, but I guess there is a better way?
[13:05] <soulchild> I still have no truetype font when typing in KDM on KDE 4.3, nobody's got the same problem ?
[13:26] <maite> hi all
[13:27] <maite> need some help with the execution of pcscd
[13:28] <norpan111> I just installed kde with "kubuntu-desktop",, can i just uninstall gnome now? i want to keep using kde
[13:28] <norpan111> it betas gnome by far :D im in love again
[13:28] <maite> could someone help me please?
[13:29] <norpan111> And how do i uninstall gnome ?
[13:29] <maite> i don't figure out why "pscsd -f" works fine but the daemon by itself (pcscd) doesn't
[13:29] <shadeslayer> !purekde | nameiner
[13:30] <shadeslayer> oops
[13:30] <shadeslayer> maite: look above
[13:30] <norpan111> :9
[13:31] <maite> above, where?
[13:32] <norpan111> What?
[13:33] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  i love your theme
[13:33] <shadeslayer> norpan111: :)
[13:33] <shadeslayer> !purekde | maite
[13:34] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  if you remember =)
[13:34] <norpan111> purekde?
[13:34] <norpan111> maite,  thats for me?
[13:34] <maite> hehehe nop, I haven't talked about anything like that
[13:34] <maite> :)
[13:34] <norpan111> maite,  i have no "system" in my K-menu
[13:35] <maite> I was just asking about a problem with the pcscd
[13:35] <norpan111> favorites, apps computer recentlu used and leave
[13:35] <norpan111> How do i shut off my pc in kde? i really cant find the shutuff option, not even restart option
[13:36] <shadeslayer> norpan111: K > Leave
[13:36] <maite> the thing is that when I execute "sudo pcscd -f", it works OK, but when I launch the daemon, doesn't work at all
[13:36] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  there is no "shut down" option
[13:36] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  ok there is now.. there wasnt yesterday lol
[13:36] <norpan111> thnks
[13:36] <maite> I actually can see that the process is running,...
[13:37] <maite> but for reasons that I ignore, when I call pcsc_scan, complains about the daemon, not responding
[13:37] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  should i have "k-menu - system " ??
[13:37] <norpan111> I dont have that in m kmenu
[13:38] <maite> who could I ask about this?
[13:38] <norpan111> Try #WHY?!
[13:38] <norpan111> If there is no... make one :d
[13:39] <maite> :|
[13:39] <norpan111> sorry
[13:40] <Pici> norpan111: Thats not helpful.
[13:40] <maite> yeah, ok...
[13:40] <Pici> maite: You could try asking in #ubuntu as well, as this package doesn't seem to be KDE specific.
[13:41] <maite> ok, I see
[13:41] <maite> I'm on it...
[13:49] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks Im trying to set my JAVA_HOME as a system variable (before i used to set it only for my user in the ~/.bashrc file). Am i right in thinking that i have to set the JAVA_HOME in /etc/.bashrc ?
[13:50] <[-Haza-]> I need to set this as a enviroment variable as i have to load an application that requires the JAVA_HOME variable using sudo
[13:50] <[-Haza-]> Thoughts?
[14:00] <thomas___> is there a guide to configure my wireless network in kubuntu 9.04 somewhere?
[14:02] <thomas___> [-Haza-]: I think the difference between the two solutions is to set JAVA_HOME for all users or just for one user
[14:03] <thomas___> [-Haza-]:  it makes sense to do it in /etc/.bashrc if you want the superuser to see the JAVA_HOME
[14:03] <thomas___> [-Haza-]: disclaimer: I am not an expert on this but...
[14:04] <[-Haza-]> thomas___: Yeah, before i set it for a sinle user in the users home/.bashrc file
[14:04] <[-Haza-]> that worked okay
[14:05] <[-Haza-]> but as i said before i need it to be set as an enviroment variable so i can sudo and app
[14:06] <[-Haza-]> For example.. i have to more my tomcat server over to port 80. Port 80 can only be binded by the superuser. tomcat requires the JAVA_HOME to be set... so sudo ./start (starting tomcat) returns an error stating that JAVA_HOME is not set :)
[14:06] <canen> did something change in kmail (kde 4.3) last update that would be causing it to refresh all folders?
[14:06] <canen> i am using disconnected imap
[14:10] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:20] <thomas___> is there a guide to configure my wireless network in kubuntu 9.04 somewhere?
[14:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 thomas___
[14:22] <thomas___> bazhang: thank you...reading now
[14:24] <thomas___> bazhang: it does look a little bit hacksy, though
[14:25] <bazhang> thomas___, its how to configure manually.
[14:26] <thomas___> bazhang:  yes, but I think my first attempt should be with the out-of the box solution. However it seems like it is no longer Knetworkmanager, so I need to figure out how to start correctly
[14:26] <bazhang> thomas___, by out of the box solution do you mean the gui tools?
[14:27] <thomas___> bazhang: yes
[14:38] <Makuseru> I just got four security updates, and now my wireless doesn't work. Is there anyway to fix this?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> which network manager , Makuseru?
[14:41] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: "knetworkmanager" I wish I could use the old one, it worked so much better. This new one has given me nothing but problems.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, what OS are you on ?
[14:44] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: Kubuntu 9.04.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> are you on the widget-network-manager?
[14:46] <Makuseru> I wasn't aware there was a widget for knetworkmanager, I just use the one that lives inside the system tray.
[14:48] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: thats the nm-applet from gnome
[14:49] <Makuseru> shadeslayer: What?
[14:49] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: see the release notes for KDE 4.3 on kubuntu.org
[14:51] <user60> hey guys if your bored try facebook zombies :D - http://apps.facebook.com/zombies/links.php?r=719927515&nref=st
[14:52] <Makuseru> shadeslayer: I don't see anything about the network manager there.
[14:53] <thomas___> Makuseru: I think you are looking for plasma-widget-network-manager
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: This archive includes a new network manager application, run "knetworkmanager" (the Plasmoid is just a dummy currently).
[14:54] <Makuseru> That's what I am running.
[14:54] <thomas___> it seems like i just figured out how to use it
[14:54] <Makuseru> It's what is giving me all these problems and not letting me connect to a wireless network.
[14:54] <thomas___> shadeslayer: the plasmoid is not a dummy, is it?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> thomas___: yes it is
[14:55] <thomas___> brb
[14:55] <Makuseru> Is there no way to go back to the old network manager?
[14:56] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  what theme are uself using right now?
[14:57] <thomas___> shadeslayer: there you go... i ripped out the network plug and reconnected through the 'dummy' plasmoid
[14:57] <shadeslayer> norpan111: the same
[14:57] <thomas___> which seems to substantiate my claim that it is not a dummy plasmoid
[14:57] <shadeslayer> thomas___: :o
[14:57] <shadeslayer> thomas___: its on the kubuntu.org site....
[14:57] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  ok =) i think the color-scheme did not fit so well
[14:58] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  its was different darkness between window boarder and all the black inside the window..
[14:58] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  if i choose the right colour-scheme that is..
[14:58] <shadeslayer> norpan111: its all about figuring what you want
[14:59] <Makuseru> So does noone have any information on how to fix these wireless problems?
[14:59] <thomas___> shadeslayer...however I will not claim that it is the most informative widget , it is just a black dot on my screen
[14:59] <norpan111> shadeslayer,  im really really bad at that ;D
[15:00] <thomas___> Makuseru: well, I just solved mine, but what exactly is your problems then?\
[15:00] <shadeslayer> thomas___: hehe,well i think all the backend is the same just the frontend was replaced
[15:00] <thomas___> i googled and read quite a lot so maybe i have an idea
[15:01] <Makuseru> thomas___: Well when it upgraded to 4.3.00 my current network manager plasmoid said it could cause a system crash and that I should install "knetworkmanager" instead, so I did that, and now its just an icon that's in the system tray, and it won't connect to any wireless network.
[15:02] <thomas___> Makuseru: I also found knetworkmanager disfunctional
[15:02] <thomas___> I just upgraded to KDE 4.3.00 as well
[15:02] <thomas___> however I did not get the warning you received, Makuseru
[15:03] <thomas___> so I dared to use the plasmoid plasma-widget-network-manager
[15:03] <thomas___> and I configured my WPA2 network
[15:03] <Makuseru> I have no clue how to do any of that.
[15:03] <thomas___> and so far... 30 mins testing and counting, not crashed
[15:04] <Makuseru> And I tried to install that but apparently its already installed "plasma-widget-network-manager is already the newest version." I just don't know how to run it.
[15:04] <thomas___> Makuseru: you are just where I was about 40 mins ago :-)
[15:05] <thomas___> Makuseru: right click on the desktop > add element, plasmoid (or something like that, I am not using english version so not sure what the precise wording is)
[15:06] <thomas___> from the list, find the network plasmoid icon
[15:06] <thomas___> Makuseru: it looks like a graphitti N in blue color
[15:06] <Makuseru> That's the old one that changed when I upgraded.
[15:08] <thomas___> is it? I just installed it an used it and it seems to work, as I told you
[15:08] <thomas___> Makuseru: so proceed at your own risk
[15:08] <Makuseru> The icon when its in the panel changes, it's a cellphone, and when I hover over it it says "Network Management is changing, this is highly unstable and will crash your desktop.  Until Further notice please use KDE4 knetworkmanager instead"
[15:09] <thomas___> Makuseru: but I guess you know the rest of the drill then
[15:09] <Makuseru> And it doesn't behave like it use to, I have no settings for networks or anything, it appears to do nothing at all.
[15:09] <thomas___> Makuseru: the behavior you describe is nothing like what I have observed, we may be looking at different versions or different systemss
[15:10] <Makuseru> When I right click on it instead of a menu dropping down like it use to I just get "network manager settings" and when I click that it just opens and tells me keyboard shortcuts
[15:10] <thomas___> or different widgets alltogether, using the same icon...
[15:11] <Makuseru> I guess ill just have to go back to windows.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, may i make asuggestion : try wicd network manager, it will ask you if youwant to uninstall the kdenetwork manager ..choose yes , then it proceeds to install wicd
[15:12] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: Alright, will try that now.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | Makuseru
[15:13] <BluesKaj> I use it on all our linux machines
[15:13] <Makuseru> Ok, its installing now.
[15:14] <canen> kmail is killing my server. anyone have a similar experience with the latest update?
[15:15] <Makuseru> Great, now its not finding any wireless networks.
[15:16] <QuantumKaos> hi guys i cannot rm a directory, command is "sudo rm /media/Archive/BackUp" output is "rm: cannot remove directory `/media/Archive/BackUp/recup_dir.8': File exists"
[15:21] <Makuseru> So when is the next kde update? And will it have fixes for the ridiculous state of wireless right now?
[15:22] <QuantumKaos> Makuseru: whatz ur wireless issue?
[15:23] <Makuseru> QuantumKaos: the last batch of updates broke my wireless, nothing even recognizes my network anymore.
[15:23] <QuantumKaos> yeah, sometimes u dont have to run all the updates
[15:24] <QuantumKaos> did u update the kernel or just the nm?
[15:24] <Makuseru>  I updated what ever update manager told me to.
[15:24] <norpan111> Whats the best Im client for kubuntu?
[15:24] <norpan111> Kopete?
[15:24] <norpan111> :O
[15:25] <Makuseru> norpan111: Pidgin
[15:25] <norpan111> Makuseru:  not empathy? the one thats coming with next release? 9.10 ?
[15:26] <thomas___> Makuseru: it still puzzles me that our case should be so different, what kind of hardware and what kind of wireless network are you trying to connect to?
[15:27] <thomas___> I am on a toshiba satellite U405-S2826, FYI - it is a laptop
[15:27] <Makuseru> thomas___: A bran-new HP laptop (AMD dual core, nvidia graphics, atheroes wireless chipset) And what do you mean what kind of wireless network?
[15:28] <thomas___> Makuseru: I read some postings about problems for WPA2 support, but that is exactly what I have working right now
[15:29] <thomas___> so the problem does not appear to exist anymore
[15:29] <thomas___> I have Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:29] <Makuseru> Well I've always had wireless problems, the first time I got it and installed ubuntu on it wireless didn't work, the second time I installed it did, and I haven't done anything to it since then since it worked and I didn't want to mess it up
[15:30] <Makuseru> But now these updates broke it.
[15:30] <Makuseru> And I really don't want to reinstall, or put windows back on it, but it looks like that's what im going to have to do.
[15:34] <thomas___> Makuseru: can it be something related to the network card itself switching on and off?--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=930667
[15:36] <thomas___> i got to gogood luck,
[15:48] <BrianE> With Kopete can you set-up Buddy Pounces? Performing an action when a contact does something...
[16:01] <combo> hello there, how can i remove from my system installed with "sudo sh *.run" *.run file ?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> comb try , sudo dpkg -r  *.runfile
[16:10] <BluesKaj> combo try , sudo dpkg -r  *.runfile
[16:12] <trojan> How-to enable tags, rating and comments in dolphin on KDE 4.3 ?
[16:14] <BrianE> trojan: That's not a question
[16:15] <BrianE> You might as well have said "I like orange pancakes"
[16:17] <Dragnslcr> Sure it's a question. There's an implied "Does anyone know" at the beginning
[16:17] <BrianE> There's not
[16:17] <Dragnslcr> It's pretty common for people who have a language other than English as their native language
[16:17] <BrianE> I know.
[16:17] <BrianE> It annoys the hell out of me ;)
[16:21] <ubsafder> i changed screen how do i set the highest resolution ?
[16:22] <BrianE> ubsafder: In the KDE Menu, choose "Computer" then "System Settings"
[16:23] <BrianE> Then choose "Display" under "Computer Administration"
[16:23] <BrianE> It's there in the drop-down beside "Size" ;)
[16:25] <Clownshoes> hi. I am in need of some assistance. this here is not 1 simple question, it is a rather long journey. It all starts with fixing microphone, but There are allot of small issues on the way. First of all. I have found a temporary way to fix mic which involves deactivating drivers, rebooting, then activate them again without rebooting. Now when running lsmod when the microphone is working I get this output snd_pcm  99464 "used by" 3 ctxfi,snd_pcm_oss, whil
[16:25] <Clownshoes>  running lsmod when mic is not working i get "used by" 2 at the same line. anyone able to join me on this journey ?
[16:26] <ubsafder> can i start that from a comand line ?
[16:27] <Clownshoes> actually is was the line that say only "ctxfi" not the line with oss. but the issue is the same
[16:28] <Clownshoes> more info. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=17bac6b194888068ccd9382f8f3416b67ad8cdba
[16:42] <kaddi> hello everyone :)
[17:03] <msichal> how was called the grub config file?
[17:03] <msichal> wnd where it is?
[17:03] <msichal> need quick answer
[17:06] <DerHorst> /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[17:06] <kaddi> :)
[17:06] <phh> or /boot/grub/grub.cfg if you use grub2
[17:06] <kaddi> phh, that's good to know :)
[17:06] <msichal> ok
[17:06] <msichal> thanks
[17:08] <larsaaaa> Hi! When I surf a webpage, I usually scroll with the keyboards arrow keys, however, when the pointer hover a flash element, the keyboard will no longer work... any suggestions but to scrap flash?
[17:12] <Psi-Jack_> I've found an issue I'm not fond of.. I use smplayer for video playing, and smplayer's telling me my mplayer is obsolete.
[17:13] <kaddi> Psi-Jack_: yeah I got that too. I'm currently using the following ppa for mplayer and don't get that message anymore: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/mplayer/ubuntu jaunty main
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> larsaaaa- pretty sure that's a Flash issue. Flash grabs keyboard input and doesn't normally pass it back to the browser
[17:15] <larsaaaa> Dragnslcr: ye, its definetly on of the billion flash bugs, just thought it might be a workarround for it, thanks for the answer though
[17:15] <Psi-Jack_> Heh cute.
[17:15] <Psi-Jack_> w32codecs has no installation candidate.
[17:15] <kaddi> Psi-Jack_:  also see here: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[17:15] <kaddi> larsaaaa: I'm pretty sure that is a feature and not a bug, meaning it won't be fixed.
[17:15] <ubsafder> on kubuntu can i put the task bar on the left or the top ? if so how ?
[17:16] <kaddi> ubsafder: kde4?
[17:16] <ubsafder> yes
[17:16] <ubsafder> 4.3 i beleive
[17:16] <kaddi> ubsafder: click the cashew of the taskbar, a menu will appear, there is an option to move them around. (it has 4 arrows pointing in different directions in front of it)
[17:17] <larsaaaa> kaddi: might be, but how can a hijack of ones keyboard be called a feature... must be hell for blind people trying to use the keyboard...
[17:19] <ubsafder> i am not trying to move widget but the entire task bar
[17:19] <kaddi> ubsafder: yes. My kubuntu isn't english so I don'
[17:19] <kaddi> t know how it's called exactly
[17:20] <ubsafder> but it is possible right ?
[17:21] <kaddi> click the cashew/yellow thingie and you will get a big black bar appearing besides your taskbar
[17:21] <ubsafder> yes i have it
[17:21] <kaddi> in that bar the one option should be called width, it can change the widht of your taskbar, yes?
[17:22] <kaddi> and the option above that option should let you drag the taskbar to another corner
[17:22] <ubsafder> but i want the bar to be vertical on the left of my screen
[17:24] <kaddi> ubsafder: click that option and drag it to the left side of your screen and it shuold change from horizontal to vertical
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> ubsafder- the panel settings is called Screen Edge
[17:24] <ubsafder> ok got it
[17:24] <kebomix1> How to change font size of Gnome app. in KDE Desktop?
[17:25] <ubsafder> thanks
[17:26] <kaddi> kebomix1: check out systemsettings -> appearance ->gtk styles and fonts. You should  be able to change your own gtk font and it's size.
[17:29] <trojan> Someone knows how to enable tags in Dolphin?
[17:29] <trojan> 	
[17:29] <trojan> I can not find it on Google
[17:30] <kebomix1>  kaddi: i use kde 4.3 and in style tab    there is GTK+  , only choose style not to configure fonts !
[17:30] <kaddi> let me check.. it's right below in kde 4.2
[17:31] <dwidmann> trojan: it appears to be there in 4.3 at least. select a file and then do "change tags" in the information panel
[17:33] <kaddi> kebomix1: on both my systems I have "GTK + fonts" on the same page as "GTK+ styles" just underneath it. If that is not the case with your PC, I'm sorry I don't know how to do it.
[17:33] <kebomix1> okay ; thanks :)
[17:34] <kaddi> kebomix1: is that a general issue or do you just want to change your Fonts in one application? I know that Firefox gives you the option to change the fonts under settings
[17:35] <kebomix1> kaddi: i want to change it on pidgin ; font is very small
[17:40] <kaddi> kebomix1: maybe check that gtk-qt-engine is installed on your system or check this link out: http://userbase.kde.org/KWin#Make-Firefox-use-smaller-font
[17:43] <kebomix1> kaddi: i'm downloading it
[17:48] <kebomix1> is there force quit on kde  ?
[17:48] <Psi-Jack_> xkill? ;)
[17:57] <bhabalinux> could anyone tell me how i can connect online through dsl?
[17:57] <bhabalinux> I have to do every time 'sudo pppoeconf'
[17:58] <bhabalinux> and when I do plog, it says request denied and connection terminated
[17:58] <kebomix> well ; it doesn't make any sense
[17:58] <bhabalinux> is there any way we can make a dialup like in windows?
[17:59] <bhabalinux> it takes a long time to get connected
[17:59] <kebomix> but increased pidgin and firefox font ; just want to increase menu font also !
[18:00] <bhabalinux> hello
[18:00] <kaddi> kebomix: maybe try changing the style then. It determins size and color of menus etc
[18:00] <kaddi> o.o
[18:03] <PolitikerNEU> Hello, does anybody know an easy tutorial for kdenlive?
[18:04] <bhabalinux> could anyone help me regarding getting online?
[18:23]  * ^Donna_Vicenza^ is back.
[19:06] <Clownshoes> hi. I am in need of some assistance. this here is not 1 simple question, it is a rather long journey. It all starts with fixing microphone, but There are allot of small issues on the way. First of all. I have found a temporary way to fix mic which involves deactivating drivers, rebooting, then activate them again without rebooting. Now when running lsmod when the microphone is working I get this output "ctxfi"  84136 "used by" 3 , while when running ls
[19:06] <Clownshoes>  mic is not working i get "used by" 2 at the same line. anyone able to join me on this journey ?
[19:49] <plamen> hi
[19:49] <kebomix>  "could not create python script engine for the widget"  how to fix this error on plasmoid?
[20:37] <jpais> oi, alguem pode me ajudar?
[20:37] <kaddi> !es |jpais
[20:38] <kaddi> !br
[20:38] <kaddi> sorry
[20:46] <heinkel_111> !tarballs
[20:46] <heinkel_111> !compile
[20:54] <JuJuBee> Anybody ever had to deal with bluebird and an LG DVD/RW Drive?
[21:02] <aqui1a> Hello. I've recently installed Kubuntu :) and have a question. When I first visited YouTube and played videos, the sound worked fine. Now it doesn't work at all. Does anybody know why this is? :)
[21:08] <aqui1a> Hello. I've recently installed Kubuntu :) and have a question. When I first visited YouTube and played videos, the sound worked fine. Now it doesn't work at all. Does anybody know why this is? :)
[21:17] <aqui1a> Anyone have any suggestions?
[21:26] <Shoulah> i want install kde 4.3.0 on kubuntu 8.10
[21:35] <Dragnslcr> aqui1a- might be the same bug in the audio system that I've hit. Have you used any other sound programs (Amarok would be my first guess) since it stopped working?
[21:36] <Dragnslcr> Shoulah- I don't think there are any KDE 4.3 packages for 8.10
[21:36] <aqui1a> I have indeed lol I used Amarok with a song a friend sent me
[21:36] <aqui1a> and it work
[21:36] <aqui1a> It just seems to be Flash which isn't working
[21:37] <aqui1a> worked*
[21:37] <Dragnslcr> Try exiting Amarok, then see if Flash starts working
[21:38] <aqui1a> Nope, still doesn't work
[21:38] <aqui1a> neither in Firefox or Konquerer
[21:39] <Dragnslcr> Might be some other program that broke it. Have you rebooted since Flash stopped working?
[21:39] <aqui1a> Yep
[21:41] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I dunno
[21:41] <Dragnslcr> !audio
[21:41] <Dragnslcr> Could try those links, see if anything there helps
[21:44] <aqui1a> Ok :)
[22:04] <yvan300> hello anyone there?
[22:13] <kavurt> yvan300: ask if you need something
[22:13] <_genuser_> Hello People.
[22:13] <yvan300> kavurt: well, i'm new to kubuntu and would like to know if you could point me to a customization tutorial
[22:15] <kavurt> yvan300: what do you want to customize?
[22:16] <yvan300> kavurt: ok, firstly, in gnome i used awn but is there a plasmoid similar to that?
[22:19] <yvan300> kavurt: ??
[22:22] <verem> est kto zhivoy
[22:22] <__Joker> motd
[22:22] <kavurt> yvan300: I don't know. I never used awn
[22:23] <yvan300> kavurt: ok
[22:25] <verem> кто говорит по русски?
[22:26] <kavurt> !ru
[22:35] <suman> how do i add key bindings to konsole?
[22:45] <melomane> hi, i installed kbuntu karmic alpha 4, and when i want to open my ntfs partitions i get this error: an error occured while accessing 'my drive', the system responded: org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume.invalidmountoption: the option 'locale=en_US.utf-8' is not allowed for uid=1000
[22:45] <melomane> i tried dolphin with root too, but the problem exist
[22:47] <apparle> melomane: I think you will find more help at  #ubuntu+1
[22:47] <apparle> !karmic
[22:47] <apparle> hi guys
[22:47] <melomane> apparle: ubuntu+1 is the name of the channel?
[22:47] <apparle> yes
[22:47] <melomane> apparle: on freenode>
[22:47] <melomane> ?
[22:48] <apparle> yes
[22:48] <melomane> apparle: ok, thanks, i will try
[23:14] <heinkel_111> after compiling which install command is better and why: sudo make install or checkinstall?
[23:14] <heinkel_111> after compiling, which install command is better and why: sudo make install or checkinstall?
[23:15] <heinkel_111> missing (,) made a little difference ;-)
[23:17] <phh> heinkel_111: checkinstall, the package manager will be aware of this installation
[23:18] <heinkel_111> phh: why are some howto documents recommending install then? anything checkinstall does not do right?
[23:18] <heinkel_111> ?
[23:18] <phh> don't know
[23:19] <melomane> information about ntfs partitions are not in fstab , to be loaded at start up. so where r they kept that we can open them when we click them in file manager?
[23:19] <phh> nowhere
[23:19] <phh> they are mounted on the fly
[23:20] <melomane> phh: does ntfs-3g is used?
[23:20] <phh> yes
[23:20] <melomane> phh: i got problem with them,i guessed i may do sth with them if i know where are they done
[23:21] <melomane> i can mount them manually, but dolphin gives a strange error
[23:21] <phh> oh, can't help on that
[23:21] <melomane> phh, anyway thanks
[23:22] <apparle> melomane: how do you mount them manually
[23:23] <melomane> apparle : sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/somewhere
[23:23] <melomane> and then i can use it
[23:23] <melomane> apparle: as i searched it seems its not sth related to karmic
[23:24] <apparle> melomane: then put the line in fstab and forget it
[23:24] <phh> that's a way.
[23:25] <melomane> apparle: if i do this, does it open the drive when i click on its name in dolphin? or i have to manually browse for the folder which the drive is mounted
[23:25] <apparle> melomane: I mean just mount the device at startup so ...........dolphin doesn't hav to mount it
[23:25] <apparle> melomane: yes it will do
[23:25] <melomane> apparle: good, so i do thiis
[23:26] <melomane> apparle: but there is another problem
[23:26] <apparle> but you knwo how to configure fstab??
[23:26] <melomane> apparle: yes to some extend
[23:27] <melomane> apparle: for my second hard disk, fdisk doesnt show details, bt dolphin shows every partion's label
[23:27] <melomane> apparle: how can i mount them?
[23:27] <apparle> do you see it by 'blkid'
[23:27] <apparle> melomane: I suggest you see this
[23:28] <apparle> !fstab | melomane
[23:29] <melomane> apparle: great thanks, i read tuxfiles before, but not the one at ubuntu community, i'll do that, and thanks for that command, never heard about that before, i always used fdisk
[23:29] <apparle> melomane: make sure you remove locale=en_US.utf8 from that ntfs line or you will get the same error
[23:33] <melomane> apparle: in fstab entry u mean?
[23:33] <apparle> yes
[23:34] <apparle> because as you said earlier you are getting error related to that locale...
[23:35] <apparle> melomane: another suggestion .........why don't try adding the user id 1000 to use that locale......I don't know how to this
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[23:50] <kaddi> hola! :)
[23:50] <kaddi> !es
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