[00:00] <EagleScreen> hello
[00:00] <EagleScreen> i have a ude with ppa and distro releases
[00:02] <EagleScreen> in this page > https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading it is said: "You can upload a source from any Debian-compatible distribution straight to your PPA"
[00:03] <EagleScreen> does it mean that I can also upload packages for Debian releases?
[00:05] <EagleScreen> are you sre is that page up-to-date?
[00:12] <maxb> EagleScreen: It means you can take any Debian-format source package and upload it to be built in an Ubuntu environment
[00:14] <EagleScreen> there ins't any way to upload packages that contains for instance 'unstable' in the changelog release?
[00:16] <wgrant> There is, but you probably don't want to do it,
[00:17] <wgrant> Why do you want to?
[00:19] <EagleScreen> i really want to do it
[00:20] <wgrant> No, you probably don't.
[00:20] <wgrant> Why do you think you want to?
[00:20] <wgrant> It's very very rarely the right thing to do.
[00:20] <EagleScreen> i also want to be able my few packages for Debian
[00:20] <wgrant> It will still build for an Ubuntu release.
[00:20] <wgrant> You *cannot* build packages for Debian in a PPA.
[00:20] <EagleScreen> i would like to have a ppa for Ubuntu and a ppa for Debian
[00:20] <wgrant> You can build packages *from* Debian, but not *for* Debian.
[00:21] <EagleScreen> i first tets that they build in a Debian enviroment
[00:21] <wgrant> PPAs have no Debian environment.
[00:21] <EagleScreen> yes, but i first build it in a chroot Debian enviroment in my computer
[00:22] <EagleScreen> so check that they also build for Debian
[00:23] <wgrant> That will not magically make PPAs build for Debian as well.
[00:23] <EagleScreen> yes I know
[00:23] <EagleScreen> but i only want to have a repository from where someone can install my packages
[00:24] <wgrant> But the packages do not exist to be installed, because PPAs do not build for Debian. Just Ubuntu.
[00:24] <EagleScreen> they are built agoins Ubuntu I know, but they also run well on Debian
[00:25] <wgrant> In that case you could just give Debian users the Ubuntu apt lines.
[00:25] <wgrant> That's as much as can be done with the current setup.
[00:26] <EagleScreen> yes i know that Debian users has to ahve an apt line with 'karmic'
[00:26] <EagleScreen> sid/unstable is not supported by ppa
[00:26] <EagleScreen> i mean if I can upload a package with 'unstable' in its changelog into "karmic" ppa
[00:27] <EagleScreen> be default, it is rejectimg me tham
[00:27] <wgrant> What good is that?
[00:27] <EagleScreen> error is unknown distrorealease
[00:27] <wgrant> It is possible, but why?
[00:28] <wgrant> If you're building a package for Ubuntu, why do you want to upload with a distroseries of 'unstable'?
[00:29] <EagleScreen> I really want some packaes to have a version with 'unstable' in my ppa focused for Debian, and other version with 'karmic' in my ppa focused for Ubuntu
[00:29] <wgrant> EagleScreen: So you want to do it just to have a different name in the changelog?
[00:29] <EagleScreen> yes, and to have a diffrent changelog
[00:31] <wgrant> EagleScreen: You are probably making a mistake, but try adding '/karmic' to the end of the upload path.
[00:31] <EagleScreen> yes i have already tried, but later an email tell me that upload has been rejected by invalid distrorelease
[00:32] <EagleScreen> it would be nice if ppa's were also valid for Debian releases
[00:33] <wgrant> It would, but that requires a fair bit of work.
[00:33] <EagleScreen> but I think that it is hard, because Debian works with a major number of archs by default
[00:33] <wgrant> That's probably little to do with it.
[00:34] <wgrant> Now, uploading with a path like '~user/ppa/ubuntu/karmic' does work. I tried it locally.
[00:34] <EagleScreen> yes, but with an ubuntu release in changelog
[00:35] <EagleScreen> if you have unstable, low, it will be rejected
[00:37] <EagleScreen> and i am forced to change it to karmic, low, being focused in Debian
[00:39] <EagleScreen> but it is normally, ppa's are made with Ubuntu in mind
[00:41] <wgrant> EagleScreen: I'm pretty sure the changelog should be ignored.
[00:41] <wgrant> But I have to run.
[00:46] <EagleScreen> i think it will watch changelog to know what version of Ubuntu to use to build
[00:58] <kklimonda> something wrong with LP? I'm trying to open https://edge.launchpad.net/tangerine and gen an oops OOPS-1326EA680
[00:58] <kklimonda> well, oops obviously change ;)
[01:00] <Ursinha> kklimonda, let me see the oops
[01:00] <matsubara> kklimonda, bug 414610, fix should be rolled in the next edge update. workaround is to disable edge redirection
[01:01] <kklimonda> matsubara: thanks
[01:03] <matsubara> kklimonda, np
[01:56] <wgrant> EagleScreen: No. It normally looks at the changes file to work out which distroseries to build against, but the upload path overrides that.
[01:57] <wgrant> That's the whole point of it.
[01:57] <wgrant> The changelog is not examined directly.
[02:15] <ojwb> EagleScreen: if you want a PPA-like builder for Debian, the opensuse build service can do that: http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/Deb_builds
[02:17] <EagleScreen> thanks ojwb
[08:19] <thekorn> good morning,
[08:20] <thekorn> I get an nice error popup when I try to add a comment to a bugreport
[08:22] <thekorn> oh, nevermind, it is because I'm somehow not logged in
[08:25] <noodles775> thekorn: yeah, gmb just mentioned on lp-dev that the sessions table seems to have been nuked.
[09:06] <noodles775> gmb, jtv - are you guys seeing any issues using edge/production right now? I'm trying to create an MP but repeatedly fail (timeouts, logging in repeatedly etc.)
[09:07] <jtv> noodles775: Code's been struggling lately, hasn't it?
[09:07] <gmb> noodles775: code.* is slowish.
[09:07] <noodles775> Thanks - I didn't realise how slow...
[09:09] <gmb> stub: Are there longer-term problems with the session DB? I'm getting asked to log in again.
[09:09] <stub> noodles775: kill your edge session cookie and restart your browser (or maybe restarting browser is all that is needed). There is something weird going on with edge authentication - no probs on launchpad.net, but relogging into edge after nuking the sessions was a pita.
[09:10] <noodles775> Thanks stub
[09:10]  * gmb kills his browser
[09:10] <gmb> Oh, wow, there are terminals under here. What was I doing?
[09:11] <gmb> Apparently, I was using Python as a calculator. How dull.
[09:13] <gmb> stub: I'm getting the "there's a problem" page.
[09:13] <noodles775> gmb: restarting didn't work for chromium for me, but ff3.5 did (not sure why).
[09:13] <stub> That would be a different issue.
[09:14] <gmb> Hmm.
[09:14] <stub> Hmm... maybe edge is just screwing up and it isn't some weird cookie handling bug at all
[09:14]  * stub goes to poke a losa
[09:15] <gmb> There's those vagueries again.
[09:22] <jtv> noodles775: beware—in my case, logging in again worked, but a while later I lost my session again.
[09:23] <danilos> jtv: I just can't log in into edge
[09:23] <jtv> hi danilos, same here
[09:24] <jtv> oh, now I'm "already logged in."
[09:24] <danilos> jtv: ok, ok, hi to you too :)
[10:04] <Hew> Edge is timing out every few pages. Known issue?
[10:07] <Spads> Hew: still?
[10:09] <Hew> Spads, not right at this moment, no. I'll let you know if it happens again
[10:10] <mdz> Spads, I'm seeing it as well (right now)
[10:10] <Hew> Spads, it just happened again
[10:10] <Spads> mdz: stub and I are looking into it
[10:11] <mdz> Spads, thanks
[10:13] <Spads> has that improved things any for edge?
[11:13] <Hew> I haven't seen the timeout problem for a while.
[11:17] <spiv> Dear Launchpad: "This is a bug in the way InterDifferingSerializer deals with stacked sources.  The main issue here is that the way InterDifferingSerializer calculates the text keys to send isn't quite right.  It generates a probably-shortest delta, and then assumes every text key referenced in that needs to be transferred.  That doesn't align with reality when the source is a stacked branch... there can be many text keys in the delta that logic 
[11:17] <spiv> In fact, with a stacked source opened by upgrade there will be no fallbacks configured.  So the first revision InterDifferingSerializer tries to fetch will have no parent revision present, so it will generate a delta from the null revision for the first revision it wants to transfer (even though a parent inventory is present), and thus it will attempt to send every text in the complete inventory for that revision!
[11:17] <spiv> The actual rule for which text keys must be present for a given revision , as described by Robert elsewhere, is: "all text versions not present in any parent".
[11:17] <spiv> So, for each batch IDS processes, I think what we want to do is something more like:
[11:17] <spiv> Gar, sorry!
[11:17] <spiv> Bad clipboard, no biscuit!
[11:18] <spiv> I meant to say that "Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication." is a bit rude when as far as my browser knows I am authenticated, and Launchpad has mysteriously decided to forget my cookie.
[11:19] <bigjools> spiv: edge problems earlier, not sure why sessions were dropped
[11:21] <spiv> (at least my long bug comment didn't get eaten, although as you can see I had most of it in the clipboard because my "long comments in web forms is just asking for data loss" paranoia kicked in... :)
[12:16] <papo> hello
[12:17] <papo> if I merge two launchpad accounts, what's going to happen with my Karma and things like "member since"?
[12:18] <papo> am I just going to keep those of the main account I'm logged in or is Karma somehow added? And what about the PPA?
[12:18] <bigjools> if you have a PPA you will need to get an admin to sort that out for you
[12:19] <wgrant> Karma is transferred.
[12:19] <wgrant> I don't think 'member since' is.
[12:20] <papo> hm ok. That would be cool, though
[14:41] <rohdef> how do I change (/delete and reupload) an attachment?
[14:52] <james_w> I've started getting a ton of 412 errors on branch.set_status()
[14:52] <james_w> I implemented retry before, as it often collided with scanning
[14:53] <james_w> but something in the last day or two has meant that even with 3 retries it still collides with something
[14:53] <james_w> anyone have any guesses?
[14:58] <abentley> james_w: Sorry, no idea.
[15:01] <james_w> ok, filing a bug
[15:04] <james_w> is there a way to dump the state of an object in the API?
[15:09] <james_w> bug 415943
[16:00] <geser> I've witnessed some PreconditionFailed too today, but while using requestsync and setting Importance and Status of a bug
[16:07] <mdz> in the latest code on edge, it looks like it is no longer possible to move a bug from one package to another without using +editstatus (the drop-down is gone). or has it moved?
[16:07] <mdz> BjornT, ?
[16:13] <mdz> gmb, ?
[16:14] <salgado> mdz, I see it to the left of the project affected, in the table
[16:16] <gmb> mdz: As salgado said, it should still be there
[16:19] <liw> https://launchpad.net/~systemcleaner-hackers and related branches are a bit messed up: my project was originally called "System Cleaner", but got renamed due to trademark law; new name is "Computer Janitor"
[16:19] <liw> what can I do to get the launchpad stuff fixed? create a new project and copy the branches over?
[16:20] <mdz> gmb, what does it look like?
[16:20] <mdz> gmb, see e.g. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/386524
[16:20] <mdz> oh, maybe it's missing on duplicate bugs?
[16:20] <mdz> I was just going over a batch of those
[16:20] <LarstiQ> liw: it should be possible to rename a project / assign branches to another project?
[16:21] <liw> LarstiQ, oh? I'll see about that and see if it works, thanks
[16:27] <apw> can anyone tell me if deleteing a source package from a PPA will stop any builds associated with it?
[16:29] <noodles775> apw: I'm not 100%, but I assume it will just 'unpublish' the source package... I expect that the builds will continue. bigjools ^^
[16:29] <apw> bigjools, i have some builds which i suspect are going into an infinite loop, building on the PPA builders
[16:29] <apw> whats the appropriate path to stop them
[16:29] <gmb> mdz: Right. If it's a duplicate of another bug you can't alter it, so unmark the dupe first.
[16:30] <mdz> gmb, unmarking it as a duplicate doesn't cause it to appear, though
[16:30] <mdz> gmb, the scenario here is that the bug is marked as a duplicate erroneously; it actually belongs on a different package
[16:30] <mdz> so I need to do both, unmark the duplicate, and change the package field
[16:36] <intellectronica> mdz: that's known. some of the inline editing actions don't result in all the other controls on the page reflecting the new state of the bug. refreshing the page is the current workaround
[16:40] <gmb> mdz: Refresh the page, it should appear. Known bug with the AJAX duplicate widget.
[16:40] <gmb> Sorry about that. I always forget about the whole having-to-refresh malarkey.
[16:40] <gmb> mdz: bug 346531, FTR.
[16:45] <mdz> intellectronica, gmb, thanks
[16:45] <gmb> mdz: Right. So, first, unmark the duplicate. Refresh, and you should be able to change the package.
[16:47] <mdz> gmb, I'm pretty sure this used to be possible with a single page load, so this is something of a regression
[16:49] <intellectronica> mdz: not really, but the way in which it fails right now is very confusing and misleading, and in this sense it is a regression
[16:50] <intellectronica> this will definitely be fixed before 3.0 is out, but if we find that many people have difficulties using it we should consider forcing a refresh until then
[16:52] <gmb> Agreed.
[16:59] <bigjools> apw: sorry was on the phone.  No, it won't stop them.  Do you have build URLs please for the problematic ones?
[17:02] <apw> bigjools, https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/staging/+build/1171458
[17:02] <apw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/staging/+build/1171459
[17:03] <apw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/staging/+build/1171460
[17:04] <bigjools> apw: do you want me to cancel those builds?
[17:04] <apw> yes please if you can
[17:05] <bigjools> ok, give me a while
[17:22] <Flare-Laptop> When I went to push a bzr branch to my launchpad account, I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255810/
[17:22] <Flare-Laptop> What should I to fix it?
[17:23] <Ampelbein> Flare-Laptop: as the error message suggests, set more restrictive permission on your ssh key file.
[17:24] <Flare-Laptop> Ampelbein: ok, exactly what permissions should I set on it?
[17:24] <Ampelbein> Flare-Laptop: readable only by you, not any other person. i.e. 0600
[17:25] <abentley> danilos: How should I respond to this? https://answers.edge.launchpad.n et/launchpad/+question/80289
[17:25] <bigjools-afk> apw: seems like 2 of them failed anyway, I guess the third will too
[17:26] <Flare-Laptop> Ampelbein: Ahh ok, thanks.
[17:26] <apw> bigjools-afk, hrm thanks more bugs sigh
[17:26] <bigjools-afk> :)
[17:27] <danilos> abentley: I don't really know, it's already assigned to LOSAs, but you should be able to remove the project yourself if you can verify the identity of the requester (i.e. akser is the project owner)
[17:27] <danilos> abentley: perhaps you are thinking of a different question?
[17:27] <abentley> danilos: Sorry, I meant to ask you about this: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/80427
[17:28] <danilos> abentley: just leave it there, we'll take care of it through discussion with Arne (we're in constant communication with him, so it'd be hard to have this stay unanswered)
[17:29] <abentley> danilos: Cool, thanks.
[17:29] <danilos> abentley: we usually ask our ubuntu colleagues to file questions in rosetta so we don't forget about a request they made
[18:57] <fta> could someone please do something for https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/80227
[19:22] <einalex> hi guys! i'd like to change my launchpad email address but it keeps telling me the address belongs to one of the teams I created (the address was used as contact address for the team before but not anymore)
[19:22] <einalex> can someone help me with that?
[19:27] <ahasenack> is launchpad a bit ill today?
[19:32] <andersk> Something's definitely wrong.  When I visit a bug report page, the text suddenly becomes all centered, and I get logged out on the next page I visit.
[19:36] <einalex> the edge. version seems to work better
[19:37] <ahasenack> yeah, I see the same
[19:37] <ahasenack> logouts and rendering weirdness, even after shift-reload
[19:46] <PovAddict> launchpad keeps logging me out
[19:46] <PovAddict> I follow two or three links and I'm logged out
[19:47] <rmcbride> I'm getting the same thing
[19:47] <rmcbride> even cleared my cookies and reauthed and its not happy
[19:47] <PovAddict> ok looks like it may be some load balancing fail
[19:47] <PovAddict> I go to launchpad.net and refresh the page
[19:48] <PovAddict> and I show logged out
[19:48] <PovAddict> I refresh again and I'm logged in
[19:48] <PovAddict> intermittently
[19:49] <rmcbride> Yep.. yep... same behavior here.
[19:56] <PovAddict> how do I search for all bugs I reported?
[20:00] <LordMetroid> Anyone else having problem with launchpad now? The interface keeps screwing up and I am constantly being logged out.
[20:00] <PovAddict> yep same here
[20:00] <PovAddict> well, I stopped getting logged out for a while...
[20:01] <LordMetroid> ok, someone must have screwed something up
[20:01] <LordMetroid> I was worried it was something wrong on my part
[20:09] <rockstar> LordMetroid, PovAddict, you KEEP being logged out?
[20:09] <rockstar> Or have you only been logged out once?
[20:10] <LordMetroid> Yes when I am trying to change the status of a bug
[20:10] <PovAddict> I was logged out a dozen times
[20:10] <PovAddict> after doing one or two clicks around
[20:10] <PovAddict> but has been fine for the past 10 minutes
[20:10] <rockstar> Okay, I'll escalate it then.
[20:10] <LordMetroid> ALsoOhh wait now it works
[20:10] <LordMetroid> strange
[20:11] <LordMetroid> PovAddict, no need to escalate it seems
[20:18] <mac_v> hi... is something wrong with lp ? it keeps logging me out?
[20:18] <PovAddict> rockstar: ok... yes we do need to escalate it :)
[20:20] <rockstar> PovAddict, are you a beta tester?  Are you experiencing these problems on edge?
[20:20] <PovAddict> rockstar: I thought I wasn't, but I did a bug search and it gave me an error, and had an option to "disable redirection to the beta site for 2 hours"
[20:20] <PovAddict> so maybe I signed up to edge and I don't remember
[20:21] <rockstar> mac_v, how about you?  Are you experiencing the same problems with edge, or are you using production?
[20:21] <PovAddict> that message was after my logout problems had mostly disappeared
[20:21] <mac_v> rockstar: not edge , regular lp
[20:21] <rockstar> mac_v, are you still seeing the problem?
[20:22] <mac_v> rockstar: yes , i'm trying to look at bugs and it keeps loggin me out:(
[20:22] <PovAddict> rockstar: how can I tell if I'm currently using edge or not?
[20:22] <mac_v> PovAddict: it will be in the url
[20:23] <rockstar> PovAddict, the url in your browser.
[20:23] <PovAddict> I *never* saw 'edge' in the URL of my browser
[20:23] <PovAddict> but the message I got suggested I was getting redirected to edge automatically or something...
[20:23] <bialix> does lp is broken? it's quite regularly gives me error about authentication
[20:23] <mac_v> rockstar: ^
[20:24] <mac_v> bialix: same prob for me too
[20:24] <bialix> rats :-/
[20:25] <mac_v> also the retracers seem to be down , i submit a crash report and its been more than 2 hrs
[20:25] <mac_v> i'v*
[20:27] <rmcbride> rockstar: I'm definitely seeing this on not-edge at the moment
[20:30]  * bialix don't use edge
[20:35] <Lysi> Hi, when sending my answer it doesn't appear and I get logged out.
[20:35]  * PovAddict increments the "people with logout problems" counter by one
[20:35] <mac_v> Lysi: there is some porblem with lp & rockstar is looking ito it
[20:36] <mac_v> PovAddict: what was you initial problem?
[20:36] <PovAddict> logged in, went to another page, I was logged out
[20:36] <Lysi> PovAddict: as described
[20:36] <PovAddict> logged in, went to my profile, clicked edit, took me to login form
[20:37] <mac_v> yeah , i have the same prob
[20:37] <Lysi> sorry, was for mac_v
[20:37] <PovAddict> a dozen re-logins later, I successfully added my SSH and PGP keys to my profile
[20:37] <PovAddict> literally a dozen, I'd say
[20:37] <flacoste> Lysi, PovAddict, are you using firefox?
[20:37] <PovAddict> Konqueror 3.5
[20:38] <Lysi> yep
[20:38] <PovAddict> in case it matters... I reset my password before first login (had forgotten it)
[20:38] <mac_v> flacoste: i checked with midori too , its not the browser
[20:38] <flacoste> hmm
[20:38] <flacoste> well
[20:38] <PovAddict> refreshing home page repeatedly made the corner switch between my name and 'Login / register'
[20:39] <PovAddict> currently, it seems to be working fine for me
[20:39] <flacoste> PovAddict, mac_v, Lysi: can you make sure you have no cookies for any launchpad.net domain?
[20:39] <al> hey, sb around who could fix lp:~vcs-imports/quassel/trunk? currently failing due to a bzr-git hickup http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30433424/quassel-trunk-log.txt
[20:39] <PovAddict> flacoste: it hasn't logged *me* out for like half an hour now
[20:39] <Lysi> I'll close ff and will try again.
[20:39] <mac_v> flacoste: lp was working fine even half hour ago , its just now its doing this
[20:39] <PovAddict> (but I did what I needed to do already so I'm not actively browsing now)
[20:40] <slangasek> is anyone else seeing problems with launchpad logging users out after every page load?
[20:40]  * PovAddict increments the "people with logout problems" counter by one
[20:40] <mac_v> slangasek: welcome to the club
[20:41] <PovAddict> ok, just opened a few browser tabs from a bug list
[20:41] <slangasek> mac_v: I want out of this club. :)
[20:41] <mac_v> me too , desperately
[20:41] <PovAddict> 2 out of 6 are logged out
[20:42] <slangasek> also, why is LP appending '...' to my comments?
[20:42] <al> ...
[20:42] <mac_v> flacoste: how long does it take for the apport retracers to check a bug?
[20:42] <PovAddict> *refresh* 7 out of 7 are logged out
[20:42] <mac_v> PovAddict: we get it , there is a prob
[20:42] <PovAddict> mac_v: for the past 20 minutes I wasn't having problems anymore
[20:43] <mac_v> me too
[20:44] <idnar> so, I'm a bit confused about merge proposal statuses
[20:44] <gary_poster> so who is still having problems?  anyone with problems using a browser they can give us raw headers?  I think Firefox has that; looking.
[20:45] <rockstar> idnar, what seems to be your problem?
[20:45] <abentley> idnar: Okay, what would you like to know?
[20:45] <idnar> I guess specifically, I'm wondering about the "resubmit" and "rejected" statuses
[20:45] <rockstar> abentley, I saw you were busy, so I thought I'd help out.  I'll hand it back to you.  :)
[20:45] <idnar> does it make sense to change the status to rejected after posting a review with status "needs fixing"?
[20:46] <Lysi> ok, closed ff, restart, logged in, opened tab with a question, on this I wasn't logged in anymore.
[20:46] <Lysi> but I'm still on the first page.
[20:46] <abentley> idnar: If you were going to reject it, you would choose "disapprove", not "needs fixing".
[20:47] <abentley> idnar: If the review outcome is that the branch needs to be updated, you might switch it back to work-in-progress.
[20:48] <idnar> okay, so "rejected" is basically "go away and never come back"
[20:48] <gary_poster> Lysi: ack.  I'm not suggesting but exploring: have you tried logging in multiple times?
[20:48] <mac_v> hmm... is anyone looking into the authentication problem?
[20:48] <matsubara> Lysi, are you in the beta testers team? you might need to log in twice due to bug 160191
[20:48] <idnar> does "resubmit" mean "I am submitting this branch for review again"?
[20:48] <mac_v> gary_poster: i have tried multiple logins , doesnt work
[20:48] <abentley> idnar: Yes, it's a pretty strong rejection.
[20:48] <gary_poster> mac_v: so you are still logged out?
[20:49] <Lysi> gary_poster: no, I log in once. Until today no probs.
[20:49] <Ampelbein> hi there. I'm unable to unsubscribe a team from a bug report, no matter if i'm team owner, administrator or member. clicking the red "-" makes a spinning icon appear which vanishes after few seconds and team is still subscribed. Tested on edge and staging.
[20:49] <gary_poster> I think I have an idea.  checking internally one sec
[20:49] <mac_v> gary_poster: if i refresh , i get logged out , for every page i have to login again
[20:49] <abentley> idnar: "resubmit" should not be listed as a status.  It's really an action that means "I am resubmitting this branch for review."
[20:49] <abentley> idnar: I am working on fixing that.
[20:50] <mac_v> Ampelbein: are you the team admin?
[20:51] <mac_v> Ampelbein: you can unsubscribe a project once it has been assigned , you can only change it to a different project
[20:51] <Lysi> mac_v: confirm. reloading the page logs me out.
[20:51] <mac_v> can *not*
[20:51] <abentley> idnar: It actually creates a new merge proposal based on this one, and sets the current merge proposal to "superseded".
[20:51] <Ampelbein> mac_v: quoting myself "no matter if i'm team owner, administrator or member."
[20:52] <mac_v> Ampelbein: typo , you can *not* , unsubscribe
[20:52] <idnar> abentley: okay, thanks; I think that clears it up
[20:52] <Ampelbein> mac_v: i want to unsubscribe a TEAM (here: ubuntu-universe-sponsors) from a bug report (#415954). That used to work at least till 2 or 3 days ago.
[20:52] <abentley> idnar: great.
[20:52] <Ampelbein> mac_v: nothing to do with a project.
[20:53] <abentley> rockstar: appreciate the offer, though.
[20:53] <gary_poster> mac_v, Lysi: can you confirm that the problem still exists?
[20:53] <mac_v> Ampelbein: sorry , i got confused
[20:53] <gary_poster> (we just restarted servers)
[20:53] <Lysi> yep
[20:53] <idnar> abentley: hmm, one last thing; do you always need to "resubmit" after pushing new changes to the branch?
[20:53] <Lysi> just logged in and got logged out, will try again.
[20:54] <mac_v> gary_poster: \o/ seems solved thanx
[20:54] <gary_poster> mac_v: cool
[20:54] <abentley> idnar: No, only if you want to generate a new review diff.
[20:54] <idnar> okay, great
[20:55] <gary_poster> Lysi: waiting with bated breath ;-)
[20:55] <mac_v> gary_poster: doesnt a good old kick to the server work? ;p
[20:55] <gary_poster> oh yeah :-) :-/
[20:55] <flacoste> slangasek: is it working for you now?
[20:56] <Lysi> ok, logged in and will answer a question and see what happens when sending.
[20:56] <gary_poster> ok
[20:56] <slangasek> flacoste: yes
[20:56] <Lysi> gary_poster: btw. please dont write white or whatever, I cannot read anything
[20:57] <gary_poster> Lysi: ?
[20:57] <mac_v> lol
[20:57] <Lysi> I need to highlight the font to be abled to read it
[20:57] <slangasek> gary_poster, flacoste thanks
[20:57] <LarstiQ> Lysi: is that what your irc client does when someone addresses you?
[20:58] <gary_poster> ah, good call by LarstiQ
[20:58] <gary_poster> is this legible
[20:58] <gary_poster> but this not legible, Lysi?
[20:58] <Lysi> LarstiQ: not by everyone
[20:58] <gary_poster> afaik I'm just sending text :-)
[20:59] <mac_v> Lysi: xchat ? change the colors in the preferences
[20:59] <Lysi> no
[20:59] <gary_poster> so launchpad is ok for you?
[20:59] <mac_v> gary_poster: nice technique though
[20:59]  * mac_v needs to learn to write in white
[21:00] <gary_poster> lol
[21:00] <Lysi> pidgin, sometimes it's purple, my writing is blue
[21:00] <mac_v> Lysi: its the prefs , you need to change gary_poster is not doing anything
[21:01] <Lysi> Ok, posted a test answer, works fine. thanks a lot.
[21:01] <gary_poster> Awesome
[21:01] <Ampelbein> abentley: Can you help? I'm unable to unsubscribe a team from a bug report, no matter if i'm team owner, administrator or member. clicking the red "-" makes a spinning icon appear which vanishes after few seconds and team is still subscribed. Tested on edge and staging.
[21:01] <mac_v> gary_poster: how long does an apport retrace usually take?
[21:02] <abentley> Ampelbein: What's the bug report?
[21:02] <Lysi> How do I change gary_poster? I'm new to this and never had an issue like this, sorry.
[21:02] <Ampelbein> abentley: i tried several, for example bug 415954
[21:03] <abentley> Ampelbein: What's the team?
[21:03] <intellectronica> Ampelbein, abentley: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/415229
[21:03] <gary_poster> mac_v: no idea sorry.  rockstar ^^^ ?
[21:03] <mac_v> rockstar: how long does an apport retrace usually take?
[21:03] <rockstar> mac_v, no idea.  I'm not on the bugs team.
[21:03] <mac_v> ah :(
[21:04] <intellectronica> Ampelbein: it's fixed, but not yet deployed
[21:04] <rockstar> intellectronica, do you know the answer to mac_v's question?
[21:04] <Ampelbein> intellectronica: ah, ok. thanks.
[21:04] <abentley> Ampelbein: In the meantime, you can work around it by either disabling javascript or not using edge.
[21:04] <Ampelbein> abentley: ok, thanks.
[21:04] <intellectronica> mac_v: not enough to worry about, i should think
[21:05] <intellectronica> that is, if it seems stuck, maybe there's something wrong going on
[21:05] <mac_v> intellectronica: its been more than 2 hrs , my crash report is still wating
[21:05] <intellectronica> though i must admit i'm no expert on apport either
[21:05] <intellectronica> mac_v: no, that sounds insane
[21:05] <mac_v> intellectronica: thats what i was wondering , i think they are stuck , they have recently been getting stuck with totem crashes
[21:06] <intellectronica> mac_v: really?
[21:06] <mac_v> intellectronica: yeah , thats what seb128 told
[21:06] <mac_v> needs to be restarted ,i guess
[21:07] <mac_v> he even removed the retrace tag to prevent the error
[21:07] <intellectronica> mac_v: did you try asking pitti? he'll know if it's a common problem now
[21:07] <mac_v> intellectronica: i think pitti is on vacation , seb too
[21:07] <intellectronica> huh
[21:08] <intellectronica> mac_v: i hate to be doing the 'not in my department' spiel, but i really don't know enough about apport to be able to help. i can try and see if there's anyone available who does, but as a first step, file a bug on apport?
[21:10] <mac_v> let me first get the bug # where seb reported it
[21:10] <intellectronica> ah ok, if there's a bug already than that's cool
[21:11] <mac_v> no no , my totem bug
[21:11] <mac_v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmms/+bug/410923/comments/4
[21:11] <mac_v> intellectronica: ^
[21:12] <intellectronica> mac_v: right, but i mean report a bug about apport itself
[21:12] <mac_v> intellectronica: hmm... didnt know ineeded to file a bug , so this bug is against apport?
[21:13] <mac_v> are the retraces and apport the same?
[21:14] <intellectronica> mac_v: i guess not, and that apport just runs them, but that would be a good start. unless you know for sure in what program it really is, file it on apport and in the worst case it will have to be moved to a more specific target
[21:14] <mac_v> ok
[21:22] <mac_v> intellectronica: ok , filed a bug , could you restart the retracers?
[21:22] <mac_v> Bug #416106
[21:24] <intellectronica> mac_v: sorry, i have no idea how to do that, but i'll see if i can find out
[21:24] <mac_v> thanks
[21:36] <mac_v> intellectronica: regarding Bug #404861 , why have the "Affects me too" when it has no use? isnt it better to remove it than it having it as a decoy?
[21:39] <intellectronica> mac_v: why do you think that it doesn't have a use? you can sort bug searches by it and you can get the numbers using the api
[21:41] <mac_v> hmm... ok
[21:41] <mac_v> but i dont think it would become a voting system when a counter is used
[21:42] <intellectronica> mac_v: i'm not sure i entirely disagree with you :) but that's the way it's designed and how it's going to stay, at least for now
[21:43] <mac_v> ;)
[21:49] <hggdh> mac_v, have you tried Brian?
[21:49] <hggdh> (on the apport thing)
[21:50] <mac_v> hggdh: i think he is now looking into it
[21:50] <hggdh> k
[22:55] <jaypipes> anybody know anything about Launchpad returning "not a branch" errors for branches when pulling branches that are clearly on Launchpad? :(
[22:56] <beuno> jaypipes, URL?
[22:56] <jamone> anyone know why I'm getting this error when running rocketfuel-setup? make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. ERROR: Unable to install apache config appropriately
[22:57] <jaypipes> beuno: Well, I've got this branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/drizzle/captain
[22:57] <jaypipes> beuno: and bzr branching says "Not a branch"... same with bzr pull in an existing branch from there... :(
[22:58] <jamone> this is the 2nd time I tried running rocketfuel-setup. The first died with this: Making local branch of Launchpad trunk, this may take a while...Got a 200 response when asking for multiple ranges, does your server at bazaar.launchpad.net:80 support range requests? bzr: ERROR: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/.bzr/repository/packs/1d0252d21c3632af79515b5e8c497c15.pack is redirected to https://launchpad.net
[22:58] <jamone> ERROR: Unable to create local copy of Rocketfuel trunk
[22:58] <mkanat> gmb: Hey hey. Everything going okay with the Bugzilla integration?
[22:58] <wgrant> jamone: It's probable that you have an evil proxy in between you and Launchpad.
[22:59] <beuno> jaypipes, odd, it works well here. Could yuo pastebin the last lines of you ~/.bzr.log?
[22:59] <jamone> wgrant: Ok I'll try it from home tonight
[22:59] <wgrant> jamone: Good idea.
[22:59] <jamone> wgrant: thanks
[23:04] <jaypipes> beuno: yep, one sec. ythx
[23:06] <jaypipes> beuno: http://pastebin.flamingspork.com/75
[23:06] <jaypipes> beuno: I'm getting same error on Solaris and MacOSX.
[23:07] <beuno> hrm
[23:07] <beuno> thumper, lifeless, ^
[23:07] <jaypipes> beuno: both are at bzr 1.16.1
[23:07] <wgrant> jaypipes: That should work, but try replacing 'code' in the url with 'bazaar'
[23:07] <jaypipes> lbieber: hola
[23:07] <wgrant> That used to work, though.
[23:07] <beuno> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/drizzle/captain/ 404s
[23:07] <wgrant> Uhm.
[23:07] <beuno> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/drizzle/captain/ works
[23:08] <wgrant> uWha?
[23:08] <lbieber> jaypipes:  hey
[23:08] <beuno> er
[23:08] <beuno> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/drizzle/captain/
[23:08] <jaypipes> beuno: ?
[23:08] <beuno> that works
[23:08] <beuno> argh, copy n paste fail
[23:08] <jaypipes> but code doesn't?
[23:08] <beuno> code works
[23:08] <beuno> and bazaar.* doesn't
[23:08] <beuno> there's something wrong there
[23:08] <jaypipes> I tried code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/drizzle/captain and same thing :(
[23:09] <beuno> spm, any known issues  ^^
[23:09] <wgrant> Branch rewrite thing is still broken, yay!
[23:09] <spm> looking....
[23:10] <jaypipes> wgrant: maybe not...looks like code.launchpad.net isn't redirected (at least not in .bzr.log) and is returning a Not a branch error...see pastebin above.
[23:10] <beuno> jaypipes, as a work around, if you authenticate (bzr launchpad-login USERNAME), you should be able to interact with it
[23:11] <jaypipes> beuno: unfortunately, Solaris won't allow bzr+ssh on that darn box. :( I keep getting problems with that and have to use https
[23:11] <beuno> jaypipes, sftp?
[23:11] <jaypipes> beuno: hmm, lemme check that...
[23:11] <beuno> jaypipes, while spm fixes everything    :)
[23:11] <spm> ahh. I see the problem. this is an easy fix. one sec.
[23:13] <jaypipes> beuno: doh! http://pastebin.flamingspork.com/76
[23:13] <jaypipes> spm: cheers mate
[23:13] <beuno> jaypipes, looks like a subunit problem in that traceback though
[23:14] <beuno> jaypipes, try running that with --no-plugins
[23:14]  * beuno doesn't give up
[23:14] <jaypipes> beuno: k, one sec
[23:15] <jaypipes> beuno: :( same resuilt
[23:15] <beuno> grrrr
[23:15] <beuno> ok, lets wait for spm then
[23:17] <spm> beuno: jaypipes: that should be fixed now
[23:29] <jaypipes> spm: checking now. cheers!
[23:29] <jaypipes> spm: you rock. thx mate!
[23:29] <jaypipes> beuno: thx for the help!
[23:29] <spm> np. sorry bout that. was an oversight on our part.
[23:30] <beuno> jaypipes, thanks for the report
[23:32] <jaypipes> no worries :)
[23:39] <poolie> hello beuno
[23:39] <poolie> beuno, i saw mnuzum's mail about web design work
[23:39] <poolie> is that at all related to our thing with ej?
[23:39] <beuno> poolie, hi
[23:39] <beuno> no, not at all
[23:40] <beuno> I got back a design today, wasn't 100% happy with it, and requested some changes
[23:40] <beuno> you should get something in your inbox by tomorrow
[23:43] <poolie> oh ok
[23:43] <poolie> so it's unblocked?
[23:43] <poolie> and i shouldn't bother replying to him?
[23:45] <beuno> poolie, correct
[23:47] <beuno> poolie, the design has been outsourced  :)
[23:53] <poolie> k
[23:54] <cesar_bo> Anyone has setup his people.ubuntu.com account?
[23:56] <Ampelbein> cesar_bo: me.
[23:57] <cesar_bo> Ampelbein, I had all the requirements, trying sftp://mariocesar@people.ubuntu.com doesn't work, have any tips
[23:57] <cesar_bo> Ampelbein, by the way this is my launchad account https://launchpad.net/~mariocesar/
[23:59] <Ampelbein> cesar_bo: you are not a ubuntu member. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/ for info how to become one.