[00:00] I actually one person on #kubuntu yesterday complaining that his google was hijacked.. but somehow "free.google.com" doesn't return much related to the multisearch. I'm reading up now :) [00:00] mphill, yeah, I tried it [00:01] aboSamoor: did it work for you? [00:02] mphill, yeah, it worked but I did not like it [00:02] i just got a clicking noise from my hard drive :( [00:02] aboSamoor: do you just run gnome-shell? [00:02] mphill, I just followed the instructions available on the project website [00:02] mphill, yeah, i just tried gnome-shell [00:04] DanaG, just some older kernels and recovery and w7 in the menu , no dupes [00:05] had to check the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file for the list [00:09] ah. [00:09] I seem to have two different os-prober thingies going on. [00:09] ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### [00:09] ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_otheros ### [00:11] odd... the second one is not in the package manager. [00:12] did anyone know what is the window manager that chromium use ? [00:13] window manager ? [00:14] BluesKaj, does chromium use metacity or compiz ? [00:14] you mean the google chrome OS whatsit? [00:15] both are OT for this channel [00:16] chromium is a browser aboSamoor [00:17] the chrome-OS isn't out afaik [00:17] only a few leaked screenshots [00:19] FYI "fta: next !ubuntu daily build of #chromium for x64 will be native, no more ia32-libs craziness (starting with 4.0.203.0)" [00:20] BluesKaj, ok, I meant the browser, I thought it use different window manager other than compiz, because clicking on the title bar gives different options, [00:21] aboSamoor,browsers don't use window managers in the same sense as apps do , but they can be affected by themes etc [00:21] hmm, any idea when/where we can get the new pidgin easily (already packaged)? [00:22] BluesKaj, I was just thinking how much useful to implement a file manger using chrome browser ! [00:22] o.o [00:23] Usage: add-apt-repository [options] Options: -h, --help show this help message and exit [00:23] wow, how useful. [00:23] DanaG: archive and ppa!? [00:25] ah, you can specify ppa:name but not release. [00:26] right [00:26] its expected to match yours [00:26] no idea what it does when it doesn't exist on the PPA [00:27] Silently goes on, and then lets you get 404 on apt update. [01:23] Hello, I'm looking for a little help with my sound in Karmic [01:24] Anyone around to answer some questions? [01:30] Looking for help with soundcards, anyone around? === danbhfive1 is now known as danbhfive [01:58] anyone know how Kubuntu 9.10 is shaping up? [02:02] duncan: perfekt? [02:02] ;) [02:03] has anybody tried compiz on kubuntu karmic? can you refer me a link for instructions? [02:04] arand, :) is it better off than older Ubuntu versions? as I remember in the past KDE implementation in Ubuntu was quite bad [02:04] kavurt, should work like normal. no? [02:04] no it doesn't [02:04] well hmm im not a kubuntu guy so I wouldnt know [02:05] there are issues with compiz and ubuntu now [02:06] kavurt, compiz runs fine on my setup..of course itdepends on your hardware etc [02:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion I followed the instructions in this link. I installed packages. when I say compiz --replace, the title bars disappear [02:08] BluesKaj: can you check the link I gave? Is it what you did? [02:11] !compiz [02:11] kavurt a long time ago , yes ..and i've upgraded since [02:11] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [02:23] anyone using Ubuntu here? please tell me if folder '/usr/lib/python' exist in karmic [02:23] kavurt, I prefer to use the compixz fusion gui icon , it has more options [02:25] EagleScreen: it is there [02:25] EagleScreen: nothing in it for me though [02:28] scizzo-: can you check if it is a link to other folder? [02:30] EagleScreen: nope its only a dir [02:59] Yay! The koala is kicking major butt so far. Pulse crashed once, and one other thing is an annoyance, asking for password to mount system partitions, but otherwise it seems smooth. Is it safe to use as my main OS? [03:03] the anser is no [03:06] Thats one of those 'if you have to ask' questions. [03:07] Jimmio: do you have children, pets or loved ones ? If your prepared to have them eaten by the software, then its fine as your main OS. Otherwise no [03:12] amason_: see what you did, now we've permanently lost a prerelease tester! ;) [03:13] arand: i don't think he/she was prepared to sacrifice their loved ones. [03:13] if they can't even give that up, do we really want them as a tester =) [03:29] hmm, anyone know how to sync KDE PIM with gmail? [03:36] Hello all, is there a manual way to edit keyboard shortcuts? The GUI version Segfaults. [03:40] Jimmio: gconf-editor, but the location varies [03:54] is eclipse staying at version 3.2? [03:55] boss_mc: there is a 3.4 package but it's terribly broken [03:55] kklimonda: alas! [03:55] eclipse is a pita to package. [03:56] kklimonda: I can imagine, it's pretty anti-policy (i.e. it doesn't even pay attention to update-alternatives....) [04:00] we are most likely going to remove it from ubuntu alltogether - I know that it's totally unmaintained in debian and they are also considering removing it. [04:08] kklimonda: would we then have to install it from the eclipse site? as a java program that *should* not be too hard... [04:10] boss_mc: well, it's just a .tar.gz package that you have to unpack somewhere [04:29] ugh, great, now my menu in SCIM is missing all the icons. [04:29] So instead of having nice icons to indicate languages... there's just a long, plain text list. [04:30] i guess you could report it as a bug - it may be a valid use of icons [04:31] though I've also been having other oddities with SCIM -- such as menus being un-skinned (that is, default gtk color and shape). [04:40] hmm, how do I get esound socket clients to work with PA? [04:51] DanaG: as long as module-esound-protocol-* are loaded, you should be fine [04:51] hmm, only -unix is loaded, not -tcp. [04:51] The app itself is xoscope. [04:51] It doesn't appear in pavucontrol, and errors out if I try padsp. [04:53] these versions strings are horrid [04:53] pulseaudio_0.9.16~test5~git20090819.f4f16ab1-0ubuntu1~ubuntuaudiodev1 [04:55] hmm, so xoscope must be doing something odd. [04:56] dtchen, surely all of that isn't necessary [04:56] why the f4f16ab1? [04:56] bsnider_: that's the sha1 hash [04:57] 0819 is ambiguous [04:57] well it's a date [04:57] but why ubuntuaudiodev1 and 0ubuntu1 [04:57] socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3 [04:57] connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 20) = 0 [04:58] read(3, 0xaaf780, 8) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [04:58] I've left out a bunch of lines. Looks like an X protocol issue? [04:58] bsnider_: 0ubuntu1 is the package revision, and ubuntuaudiodev1 is the ppa revision of the package [04:58] right but why not just say ppa1? [04:59] (xoscope:8365): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.21.4/glib/giounix.c:406Error while getting flags for FD: Bad file descriptor (9) [05:00] odd, and it seems to flicker a bit in pavucontrol. [05:03] bsnider_: we want to clearly denote _which_ ppa [05:03] bsnider_: apt-cache policy pulseaudio doesn't tell someone which ppa a package is from [05:04] Perhaps that's a bug in itself. [05:05] wasn't there some apt-cache command that was somebody's name? I think it started with A. [05:05] wow, just a mere rebuild fixed xoscope. [05:10] fail. ./usr/lib/libpulsecommon-UNKNOWN.UNKNOWN.UNKNOWN.so [05:10] that is so not useful [05:11] anyone seen anything like an offset of the cursor with where the actual place is? [05:41] i'm gonna break, i'm gonna break my, i'm gonna break my rusty caaaaaage.........and run [05:43] rip mr. cash [06:20] !schedule [06:20] A schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule [06:37] Hello, anyone around? [06:40] !anyone [06:40] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [06:41] Good point. [06:42] My problem is, I have my onboard sound card and a usb soundcard for my headphones, I used to be able to switch between the two in Jaunty but since upgrading to Karmic it's defaulted to using my usb card at all times and I can't find any way to switch to my onboard soundcard. [06:43] Tarkers: install pavucontrol and set the default there [06:43] thanks. [06:45] Excellent, worked perfectly. [06:48] time for bed for me. [06:57] what is the alert volume for? i.e. what does it control? [07:34] !ubuntu [07:34] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [07:35] !topic [07:35] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [07:49] command 1 & ; command 2 & ; command 3& nor command 1; command 2; command 3 & --- neither of these work for putting three subsequential commands in background [07:50] command1 & command2 & command3 [07:50] have you tried screen? [07:50] add trailing & too [08:50] can i 'upgrade' from my stable jaunty to karmic alpha 4? [09:11] eMyller, sure: update-manager -d [09:12] x1250: no update-manager here :| [09:13] server version? [09:14] eMyller, here are the instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4 [09:15] x1250: i already read that; i'm on kubuntu, my kpackagekit is broken due to versions incompatibility [09:15] x1250: i just changed every "jaunty" match in my sources.list to "karmic". running a dist-upgrade now, it's downloading 1.4gb of data. hope i took the right way. [09:17] you didn't, there are (usually) some quirks that the update manager takes care of. [09:18] why don't you try ALTF+F2: update-manager -d [09:18] ? [09:19] or... do-release-upgrade -d [09:20] x1250: dont have update-manager here, it's kde; and do-release-upgrade says "No new release found" here :P [09:21] eMyller: you have to have jauntyt sources in .....list [09:21] ahhh, yes [09:21] * eMyller wonders what are these 'quirks' [09:21] do-release changes them on thier own. ther eis also a update-manager-kde [09:21] eMyller, take a look at the update-manager code [09:21] gnomefreak: so i'd have to switch back to jaunty in sources list? [09:21] x1250: lol [09:22] eMyller, yes, then try again [09:22] eMyller: well did you start the dist-upgrade yet? [09:22] gnomefreak: it's running. downloads bunches of packages right now. [09:22] you can cancel it, no problem with that. [09:22] s/downloads/downloading [09:23] cancelling :) [09:23] eMyller: leave it the way it is just make sure no PPA's or any other non-official sources are there [09:23] naah, update-manager is better, dist-upgrade can break things [09:23] x1250: at this point either can. the biggest reason for breakage is the non-official repos [09:24] well, yes, sure, at this stage anything is possible :) [09:24] anyways, i dont have update-manager here :P [09:24] lol [09:24] * eMyller is scared [09:25] eMyller, there is a kde version [09:25] eMyller: update-manager-kde IIRC adept is used most of time. it should be safe [09:25] * gnomefreak has never said adept and safe in same sentence before :( [09:25] hehe [09:26] kde's one is kpackagekit now, and it's unavailable for me [09:26] cuz i just installed the karmic's one, it breaks in jaunty (my case) :( [09:27] "No new release found", with "jaunty" in sources list. aw. [09:27] Hey hrrm whyfor has karmic seemingly gone to the 2.6.31 (-rc stage) kernel ? [09:27] * enyc been testing different kernel versions using portable kernel packages. on 8.04 // 9.04 [09:29] eMyller, why don't you just sudo aptitude install update-manager-kde and upgrade? [09:29] eMyller: use either dist-upgrade or adept. mvo what is best on KDE for upgrades. oh BTW i hate dist-upgrade for upgrading dists. [09:29] oh, thanks. that's exactly what i was using. [09:30] x1250: not sure if it works like our version. I dont remember that far back thats why i just asked m_v_o [09:30] trying to downgrade kpackagekit to jaunty's version [09:31] :P [09:31] installing synaptic... [09:31] for what? [09:31] if you want to do it old school, go with aptitude. [09:32] x1250: downgrading? dunno how to do this with aptitude :| [09:32] just install update-manager if you want to go that route. forget synaptic [09:33] gnomefreak: already installed now :) [09:33] synaptic is not the best way to updgrade [09:33] its pretty much the same as dist-upgrade [09:33] gnomefreak: i was about to downgrade kpackagekit through synaptic [09:34] eMyller, yea, use update-manager, but just for the record: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade [09:34] then i'd use kpackagekit to try upgrading kubuntu [09:34] x1250: full-upgrade to downgrade? Oo [09:34] ok thats alot more steps and hopes that it is still in synaptic [09:35] synaptic same as adept in the sense on what they do [09:35] eMyller, no, its aptitude's better version of dist-upgrade. /j #debian && /msg dpkg why aptitude [09:36] x1250: oh, good to know. [09:36] another question: can i run this upgrade through update-manager and keep the downloaded packages? [09:38] gnomefreak, x1250: i'd like to reuse the packages in another linux box :) [09:39] packages should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/, unless update-manager deletes them after upgrading.... I don't know if it do that when cleaning up. It shouldn't I guess. [09:39] x1250: last time i used it it did :| [09:39] last year [09:39] i think [09:40] anyway, I think you should create a local repo mirror, or make a dvd, never done it tho. [09:40] x1250: i'll do that if things go well here [09:41] x1250: i'll follow my own post: http://emyller.net/offlineapt/ [09:42] 404 [09:42] http://emyller.net/blog/offlineapt/ I guess :P [09:42] damn, http://emyller.net/blog/offlineapt/ [09:42] yep :P [09:43] aaw. update-manager is stuck on "Calculating the changes...". ×.× [09:43] do it from the wiki but stop after adding packages to folder and than just save the folder to USB or cd or DVD what ever you want [09:44] eMyller: not stuck just takes a while [09:44] morning gnomefreak [09:44] morning eMyller [09:44] oops [09:45] morning eagles0513875 [09:45] how are you doing [09:45] eagles0513875: im alright just trying to get email cleaned up before my flight [09:46] how are you doing? [09:46] nice well im fighting with my desktop though :( once it goes into screen saver mode it doesnt wanna wake back up again [09:46] :( [09:46] i think i have an issue with my video card or the driver needs updadting [09:46] not too bad back in europe arrived yesterday [09:46] eagles0513875: sounds more like a bug in gnome-screen-saver (not sure package name but that is fairly close) [09:46] hmm... actually update-manager set sources.list to 'karmic' and disabled the third-party repos [09:47] im on win on this desktop [09:47] on lin [09:47] eMyller: yes that is why we perfer users to use it [09:47] gnomefreak: for this reason only? :P [09:47] eagles0513875: last i checked (around thurs/friday my screensaver still didnt work [09:48] eMyller: no that is just one of the many helpful things it does [09:48] ah. sounds good. :) [09:48] it downgrades any packages higher than intented packages ect... [09:49] thanks gnomefreak, x1250 :D [09:49] eMyller: np [09:49] gnomefreak: you talking about on windows vista or linux [09:50] eagles0513875: Ubuntu sorry i dont have a handy Win XP pc. [09:50] gotcha [09:50] only reason my desktop is win is cuz im a gamer [09:50] i know some games work but others dont :( [09:51] * gnomefreak might play a card game once every 3 months :) [09:52] * gnomefreak really needs to find someone to do this for me but not for a while [09:52] I play with cinelerra :D, and kdenlive today too! [09:52] eagles0513875: your a KDE man right? [09:52] ya [09:53] the one time i did try cinelerra it would always crash on me even kdenlive [09:53] eagles0513875: how did you upgrade Jaunty -> Karmic? [09:53] if anything i am gonna be using a vm but i did upgrade from jaunty to karmic but was having issues so i did a clean install [09:54] eagles0513875: ah didnt know you installed it. i remember you trying to upgrade but dont remember if you finished [09:54] ya i did [09:54] but reinstalled cuz of issues [09:54] im reluctant to duel boot with it on my mac [09:54] due to the networking stuff still being kinda screwey on it [09:54] at least for wifi [09:56] IIRC there is a wiki/official ubuntu page on upgrading in kde and gnome [09:56] ya but for proper testing wouldnt a clean install be better [09:56] eagles0513875: yes unless you are testing upgrading :) but most people in here dont test for official reasons (normal users) [09:57] ya [09:57] not necessarily, a lot of people don't reinstall at all [09:57] that is true x1250 but for me i always seem to have issues [09:57] when upgrading [09:57] especially when there are big changes for instance when upgrading i noticed grub doesnt get upgraded to grub 2 [09:58] x1250: they dont but should unless doing real testing or for other reasons that they have. clean install makes testing better. [09:59] i test upgrade install and upgrade using disk [09:59] just cant recall my pssword for the site :( [09:59] maybe, but not for upgrades. To test upgrades, best thing is to just upgrade :) [10:01] when testing a new release its always best to have only official packages or bugs are not really helpful [10:01] I'm using karmic as my main box, so I need this thing running. I can't really reinstall. [10:02] x1250: you messed up than. karmic can break as in not start up [10:02] gnomefreak, I don't reboot :) [10:02] well, not a lot. [10:03] If I'm not feeling lucky I take a look at ubuntuforums.org before I reboot [10:03] it saved me a gdm trouble some time ago hehe [10:05] x1250: the mailing list is much better to look at since its wrote by the official dev or team [10:07] mmm, you're right, I'll take a look there too, thanks [10:25] compiz is not working anymore after startup, any idea how to trace the problem ? [10:25] what channel might i go to, to see if a certain device is currently supported under karmic ? [10:26] probably this one ? i'm wondering if anyone can tell me where i can look up if the Novatel Ovation MC760 is supported under karmic [10:27] support would be in a newer release, not jaunty for that device [10:33] what is the package that contains gconfd-2 ? [10:33] * maxb points aboSamoor at packages.ubuntu.com [11:23] morning [11:36] hi can anyone tell me if xspalsh is visually different from usplash [11:38] indus: yes it adds a splash screen to grub [11:38] indus: apt-cache show xsplash should answer it [11:39] gnomefreak: hmm its in already? i dont see anything.also i had a blue color grub boot menu before, but now its back to black color [11:39] says grub 1.96 huh [11:39] a splash screen to grub hmm, somehow i dont understand what that is [11:40] indus: yeah the black is now standard IIRC. we had a wiki on grub splash screens but not sure if updated for grub2 [11:41] I don't dare to test grub2 [11:41] scizzo-: 1.96 == grub2 [11:41] o.O [11:41] yeah i dont get it either since it is stable release [11:41] I got 0.97 installed [11:42] scizzo-: thats grub 1 and you are on Jaunty than since updates should have updated you to grub2 [11:42] hmmm [11:42] why did they change the blue color to black again? also, it boots directly now ,thats scary for a new user if he wont see grub menu [11:43] indus: you can disable the auto boot there was a email about it to devel list [11:43] gnomefreak: the standard grub package is the updated package? [11:43] and devel-discuss list [11:43] grub: Installed: (none) [11:44] oh what the hell [11:44] gnomefreak: yah i know,but i hope this is not default behaviour in final, new users have to go through the new grub 2 config omg [11:44] grub2: Installed: (none) [11:44] how am i booting :( [11:44] indus: it is default nad will be that way [11:44] s/nad/and [11:44] gnomefreak: hehe....good question [11:44] indus: let me see if i have meail still [11:45] email even [11:45] i did read that mail( from brian murray) ?? [11:45] indus: dont recall if it was brian or colin [11:45] gnomefreak: but from what I know is that grub is not updated since there where known thingys with it going from jaunty to karmic or something like that [11:46] someone had pasted in the forums [11:46] scizzo-: ok last i heard they had done it but i guess they recalled that idea [11:48] gnomefreak: it should be the deps of ubuntu-desktop right? [11:49] scizzo-: Depends: grub-pc [11:50] scizzo-: no grub package depends on *-desktop [11:50] gnomefreak: aaaa [11:50] one of the other packages in its depends not named with grub might [11:50] gnomefreak: I wonder if it will read the old config though [11:51] try apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-desktop [11:51] that will show you reverse depends on ubuntu-desktop [11:51] aaa ok thanks [11:51] if something in there depends on grub that is different [11:52] now why it changed from blue to black is a great question and i wish i knew answer [11:54] i was bzr was fixed i kind of need it, makes life easy for me to build packages but i need bzr-builddeb but is set to be removed :) [11:54] be back smoke [12:06] anyone know how to show grub2 menu on boot instead of it being hidden activated by escape ? [12:07] nztal: yes it is in ubuntuforums as well as the mailing list i just dont remember off hand [12:07] thanks i'll look in the forums [12:08] thank you [12:13] nztal: in /boot/grub/menu.lst add # before "hiddenmenu" [12:13] i'm using grub2 though [12:14] that list should NOT be edited [12:14] there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst now anyways [12:14] it was edited to do a splash screen image. its working fine. people are instructing people to edit it for various reasons [12:14] yes that is what i thought. i simply wish to see my grub2 menu on boot [12:15] i mean now its some grub.cfg which should not be edited it seems [12:15] oh, well people are definitely modifing it these days [12:16] well,it changes automatic on reboot again [12:16] if grub2.cfg should not be edited what file do you reference for changes ? [12:17] grub.cfg rather [12:17] wait 1 sec [12:17] nztal, /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* [12:17] ooh. thank you cdE|Woozy. karmic is my first experience with grub2 [12:17] sudo update-grub after you made any changes, this generates /boot/grub/grub.cfg from those files [12:18] update-grub or update-grub2 ? [12:19] update-grub should work [12:19] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-August/000599.html [12:19] ok thank you [12:20] hehe, update-grub2 just calls update-grub :) [12:20] thank you for the help [12:21] :) [12:23] there 2 grub2 bugs filed [12:36] Hello. I got fallowing problem. I have grub2, and 2 distros atm - gentoo and ubuntu testing. I had once ubuntu 9.04, ubuntu testing and arch. Now, after installing gentoo, I just want to update grub, so as mentioned in doc's I need to run update-grub2. And I do so, it detecs ubuntu [12:36] testing, and gentoo as it shold. After this, I enter /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and this new file doesn't contain gentoo, but my old oses that doesn't exist - arch, ubuntu 9.04, and ubuntu testing that exist. Anyone could give me a hint, what I did wrong? [12:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/255690/ [12:44] sudo update-grub ? [12:44] maybe it didn't have rights to write that file [12:44] it writes file, in fact I moved old grub.cfg [12:44] so there were no file, and it was created [12:52] Socah, is this the entire grub.cfg you pasted? [12:53] Hello, how can I change boot splash from xplash to usplash ? [12:54] AnAnt: whats the problem with xsplash? ( im installing it btw ) [12:54] it's missing several lines from 30_os-prober and 40_custom which might indicate that they were never used, although they should have been [12:54] shadeslayer: nothing, except that I dunno how to make a theme for xsplash [12:55] shadeslayer: did you see my comment on the PC beep bug ? [12:55] AnAnt: um nope.... can you paste the link? [12:56] also i accideently installed kubuntu-grub-splashimages and i cant remove it [12:56] AnAnt, xsplash is only started after X has come up, everything before that should still be done by usplash at the moment [12:57] *accidently [12:57] cdE|Woozy: are you sure ? [12:57] yes [12:57] cdE|Woozy: ok, I'll check again, thanks [12:59] AnAnt, the plan is to start X as early as possible (which doesn't happen at the moment) and then use xsplash on top of X to display the boot splash, completely replacing usplash. as long as usplash is installed, it should paint the usual theme until X is started [13:00] * shadeslayer hopes they get there asap [13:00] cdE|Woozy: have you got info about making xsplash themes ? [13:01] when using two screens, how can i determine on which screen my gnome panel is? [13:03] AnAnt, I don't know whether there is a draft for making those themes already, but xsplash itself doesn't do more than load a hard-coded image and fade it in and out for now. so even if there was some documentation on how to make xsplash themes, I don't think you could actually test them yet [13:03] scizzo-: grub-pc is installed grub2 is a meta package thats why it says not installed [13:03] how do i use apt to force a package remove? [13:04] cdE|Woozy: almost, some comments are cutted out [13:05] cdE|Woozy: I think that it is xsplash that starts here , because I get Ubuntu's splash theme when I boot (Ubuntu with some colorful progress bar), and my own usplash theme when I shutdown [13:06] AnAnt, have you tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash? [13:06] I think the images are stored in the initrd, sometimes there is an old image somewhere causing this inconsistency [13:07] oh , yes, you're right ! [13:07] update-initramfs [13:07] Socah, are those comments mentioning 30_os-prober and 40_custom? [13:08] cdE|Woozy: yup, that done it [13:08] cdE|Woozy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255707/ [13:08] shadeslayer: LP 414795 [13:08] Launchpad bug 414795 in linux "PC beep no longer works in Karmic alpha4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414795 [13:10] AnAnt: ok [13:10] AnAnt: Bug #290204 , that because the pcskr is blacklisted [13:10] Launchpad bug 290204 in gnome-session "Annoying beep on shutdown using "System -> Shut down..."" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290204 [13:11] AnAnt: it was blacklisted in the recent update, because users were complaining [13:11] AnAnt: ill just test that out [13:12] what idk is how to remove kubuntu-grub-splashimages :P [13:12] mac_v: but even if it is blacklisted, if I modprobe pcspkr, it should work [13:12] Socah, hm, maybe there is something in /var/log/syslog that could indicate why os-prober doesn't find any of your other installations [13:12] oh, maybe the conflict is because new PC beep is using proper sound system, so some conflict happens ? [13:13] AnAnt: pulse has several problems as of now , nothing audio works properly [13:14] s/nothing/no [13:14] mac_v: so this bug I am experience is a pulseaudio problem rather than a kernel problem ? [13:14] AnAnt: yeah [13:14]