| dashua | kwwii, Ah no worries. Thx. :) | 01:37 |
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| mrdoob | mac_v: you there? | 03:07 |
| mac_v | dashua: hmm... you made the border darker , it works but the think the lighter one was better ,can pixmaps be used for the bottom border? to avoid the jagged edge? | 05:39 |
| mac_v | i think* | 05:39 |
| mrdoob | good morning | 11:18 |
| mrdoob | mat_t: so there you have the lit version | 11:37 |
| mrdoob | Hopefully people can see that there is more on that design than "Oh! it's purple!", and hopefully people will do their own colour version that suit better Ubuntu. | 11:38 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: your user list is damn sleek and it connects to the background thanks to the well placed shadow. instead of being somewhat of an alien object | 11:46 |
| mrdoob | :D | 11:48 |
| mrdoob | yeah, shadows make things easier | 11:48 |
| mrdoob | than spotlights | 11:48 |
| mrdoob | I'm not 100% happy with it how the panel looks tho, not totally resolved | 11:50 |
| mrdoob | but it can be worked out | 11:50 |
| thorwil | last time i tried to open a psd in gimp it wasn't possible at all | 11:53 |
| thorwil | but this one opens in gimp 2.6.6 | 11:53 |
| thorwil | as result i mainly see green from Layer 4 and a mix of elements, though | 11:54 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: is Layer 4 supposed to have some special layer mode / effect applied to it? | 11:56 |
| mrdoob | uh, I can't remember which one it is, and I don't have photoshop here :S | 11:57 |
| mrdoob | plus, gimp doesn't have folders | 11:57 |
| mrdoob | (as far as I know) | 11:57 |
| mrdoob | I usually only name folders | 11:57 |
| mrdoob | how the he.. | 11:58 |
| mrdoob | ok ok, I'll leave gimp alone | 11:58 |
| thorwil | yes. that's why i ask, because i can only guess a feature that gimp can't map was used | 11:58 |
| thorwil | Layer 4 is just a complete fill in olive green with some variation in the middle and top right | 11:59 |
| mrdoob | ah | 11:59 |
| mrdoob | yes | 11:59 |
| mrdoob | that's supposed to be like that | 11:59 |
| mrdoob | It's just a texture | 11:59 |
| mrdoob | to give some colours | 12:00 |
| mrdoob | it's supposed to be used in overlay or something like that | 12:00 |
| mrdoob | that was originally a sand picture | 12:00 |
| mrdoob | that I blurred a lot | 12:00 |
| mrdoob | It should be bigger (if you move it to the left) | 12:01 |
| mat_t | mrdoob: hi | 12:11 |
| AnAnt | Hello, is there an intention to make a theme for new GDM in ubuntu ? | 12:12 |
| mat_t | AnAnt: yes, we're just about to start working on it | 12:12 |
| mat_t | mrdoob: I love the depth and the gdm styling, the bg color is "a bit" over the top :) | 12:13 |
| mat_t | mrdoob: would be nice to see a version with a more gentle background | 12:15 |
| thorwil | i'm working on one | 12:15 |
| AnAnt | mat_t: is there a repository or wiki that I can look at ? | 12:15 |
| mat_t | AnAnt: are you interesting in helping with technical implementation or design? | 12:16 |
| AnAnt | mat_t: I want to make a theme, but I dunno how | 12:17 |
| mat_t | thorwil: great | 12:17 |
| AnAnt | mat_t: what do you mean by technical implementation ? | 12:17 |
| mat_t | AnAnt: I'd probably ask thorwil or mac_v to help you get started | 12:18 |
| AnAnt | thorwil: is your work available online ? | 12:18 |
| * mat_t > lunch | 12:19 | |
| AnAnt | I want to know how to make a theme for new GDM | 12:19 |
| thorwil | AnAnt: are you familiar with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot? | 12:19 |
| mrdoob | mat_t: I'm not going to do anything more. Feel free to play with gimp/photoshop to reach a version that you like. | 12:20 |
| AnAnt | thorwil: ah, looking at it now, thanks | 12:20 |
| mrdoob | mat_t: but glad to know you liked the style | 12:21 |
| AnAnt | thorwil: these are just mockups, right ? | 12:23 |
| thorwil | yes | 12:23 |
| AnAnt | thorwil: aren't there any actual themes that I can take as an example ? | 12:27 |
| AnAnt | usplash isn't used at startup anymore ? | 12:29 |
| thorwil | AnAnt: sure. but i'm not sure about changes and incompatibilities between the used gdm versions | 12:30 |
| AnAnt | thorwil: where can I get them ? | 12:31 |
| thorwil | AnAnt: can't help you with that | 12:31 |
| AnAnt | well, is there a wiki where I get info how to make a theme for new GDM ? | 12:32 |
| thorwil | AnAnt: i would simply search for gdm documentation and check whether it applies to the version that will be shipped with karmic | 12:34 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: AFAIK the new theme is not very customizable , it is hardcoded | 12:36 |
| mac_v | gdm * | 12:36 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: ah, you mean those themes will be hardcoded into GDM ? | 12:37 |
| AnAnt | so branding won't be easy | 12:37 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: the gdm code had been changed more than a year ago by upstream, ubuntu had not implemented the new gdm to allow users select the themes , the gdm graphical tool is being done as an ubuntu initiative > Bug #395299 | 12:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395299 in gdm "gdm 2.26 has no graphical configuration tool" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395299 | 12:39 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: so users, as of now, wont be able to easily toggle gdm themes | 12:40 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: aha, thanks | 12:40 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: does that also apply to boot splash ? I read on this wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot), that it won't be usplash, but rather X based | 12:41 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: yes default is only xsplash , but you can change it ;) to usplash if you want , the xplash coding isnt fully clear ... BTW, what is it you are actually looking for? | 12:43 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: changing only for personal use ? or to make themes for users? | 12:44 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: for users | 12:46 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: I'm working on a distro based on Ubuntu | 12:46 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: if you want to change the default for your distro , you could do that , but the users selecting/changing the themes for gdm is not easy ; xsplash i'm not sure | 12:48 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: which distro, may i ask ? | 12:50 |
| AnAnt | sabily | 12:50 |
| AnAnt | mac_v: so, how can I change boot splash from xplash to usplash ? | 12:51 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: i'm not sure of that, most of others here wouldnt know the technical details either , you could ask #ubuntu+1 ,someone might know | 12:52 |
| AnAnt | ok, thanks | 12:53 |
| mac_v | AnAnt: my guess would be just replace xsplash with usplash | 12:53 |
| mac_v | np | 12:53 |
| mac_v | mrdoob: gave up on the boot ? ;p | 12:54 |
| mat_t | mrdoob: no worries, thanks a lot for your input! | 13:25 |
| mac_v | mat_t: could you add some intro to this page? as to how it should be directed and stuff > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Login | 13:28 |
| thorwil | http://www.blendernation.com/tutorial-painting-time-lapse-by-david-revoy/ | 13:37 |
| mat_t | mac_v: there you go | 13:38 |
| mac_v | mat_t: thanx :) | 13:39 |
| mac_v | mat_t: you might wanna inform the mailing list about this page, to get more ideas | 13:40 |
| * mac_v going to be killed soon ;p | 13:41 | |
| mrdoob1 | mac_v: no no, haven't give up the boot. It's just that I have other things to do, learning Android/OpenGL ES at the moment :D | 13:44 |
| mrdoob1 | mat_t: you're welcome, I hope I was any use | 13:44 |
| === mrdoob1 is now known as mrdoob | ||
| thorwil | mac_v: i said you should talk with mat_t, not get him to do all the work ;) | 14:23 |
| mac_v | thorwil: sssh! | 14:24 |
| mac_v | :0 | 14:24 |
| mac_v | thorwil: actually i didnt know what direction he would want :( , also the mail to the list is out of my league | 14:25 |
| mat_t | thorwil: that was just ctrl+v, not to worry :) | 14:47 |
| * mac_v was feeling bad for over-burdening mat_t :/ | 14:50 | |
| mac_v | hmm... | 14:50 |
| * SiDi yawns | 14:53 | |
| * mat_t does not undertake any tasks that actually involve work | 14:54 | |
| mat_t | (with few exceptions) | 14:54 |
| SiDi | like, when it's Canonical who asks ? :P | 14:54 |
| mac_v | mat_t: could you send the mail to the list about the gdm ideas? :) | 14:57 |
| * mat_t has a bit of a weak spot for sabdfl, true | 14:57 | |
| mat_t | mac_v: no | 14:57 |
| mac_v | ah well... | 14:57 |
| mat_t | ;) | 14:57 |
| mat_t | mac_v: I'll get kwwii to do some work when he gets back from his undeserved holidays | 14:58 |
| mac_v | lol | 14:58 |
| mac_v | mat_t: he was here yesterday | 14:59 |
| SiDi | mat_t: we can manage to not let him leave France, and then you're forced to work | 14:59 |
| mat_t | SiDi: sounds great | 15:00 |
| thorwil | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mrdoob_07_tw_splash.png | 15:07 |
| SiDi | That's... bright | 15:08 |
| * thorwil wonders if SiDi is, too | 15:09 | |
| mac_v | thorwil: needs more shadow | 15:09 |
| mac_v | for the logo | 15:09 |
| mrdoob | thorwil: maybe you should put your iteration under the comments to avoid confusion | 15:11 |
| mrdoob | interesting edit by the way | 15:12 |
| mrdoob | a shame the throbber (however it's spelled) is lost in the f0f0f0 range :S | 15:12 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: dang, i actually meant to place that after the comments | 15:13 |
| mrdoob | :] | 15:13 |
| mrdoob | a benefit of using only black/grey version of the logo | 15:15 |
| mrdoob | is that the integration with the environment is cheap, if you think about light refraction | 15:16 |
| mrdoob | in your design the logo perhaps doesn't fit much because the environment doesn't get affected by it | 15:16 |
| mac_v | thorwil: hehe... i think the boot fits perfectly for mint linux | 15:16 |
| mrdoob | meaning this: http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/imgs/cbox_spectral.jpg | 15:17 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: i tried all white. didn't work. all black is too harsh | 15:18 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: there actually is slight coloration from the background on the logo | 15:18 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: you wouldn't see much in the other direction with real objects in such a setting | 15:18 |
| mrdoob | well on the bottom | 15:19 |
| mrdoob | actually | 15:19 |
| mrdoob | I should have also shared the 3D file I did for generating the background... | 15:19 |
| mat_t | thorwil: uh, everything but green please... :) | 15:19 |
| mrdoob | what's with the competition with Mint? | 15:19 |
| thorwil | mat_t: no lighter brown tones, no orange, no yellow. no purple or pink. to cold tones and now also no green | 15:20 |
| thorwil | great | 15:20 |
| mrdoob | haha | 15:20 |
| mrdoob | mat_t: sounds like a proper client | 15:21 |
| mat_t | :) | 15:21 |
| mrdoob | thorwil: an idea I had to avoid all the colour bullshit thing would be to make it multicolour | 15:21 |
| mrdoob | something like this | 15:21 |
| mrdoob | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UbuntuColorsIcons?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=themesthumb.png | 15:21 |
| mrdoob | more subtle of course | 15:22 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: i have been a proponent of a 2 or 3 tone approach since long. actually my edit contains green, beige and blue tones | 15:23 |
| mrdoob | ops... str_replace("buillshit","annoyance"); | 15:24 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: no, it was right and now is wrong ;) | 15:24 |
| mrdoob | haha | 15:25 |
| mrdoob | svn revert | 15:25 |
| thorwil | i thought a bit about a non-center position for the logo. golden section. following account selection would be tricky to layout, though | 15:26 |
| mrdoob | that is tricky if you don't have much control of the target resolution | 15:27 |
| thorwil | mrdoob: you mentioned a 3d file. blender? | 15:27 |
| mrdoob | center is safe | 15:27 |
| mrdoob | thorwil: unfortunatelly 3dsmax :( | 15:27 |
| mrdoob | I could have done it in blender, I haven't used to it yet, can I import .svg to blender? | 15:28 |
| thorwil | yes | 15:28 |
| mrdoob | uhm, right, I wasted more time installing illustrator for converting the .svg to .ai and then importing on .max than learning blender and importing .svg | 15:29 |
| mrdoob | :( | 15:29 |
| thorwil | not sure about that | 15:29 |
| thorwil | first steps into blender are hard | 15:29 |
| mrdoob | but it isn't much, it's a wall/floor with round connection | 15:29 |
| mrdoob | and 3 lights | 15:30 |
| mrdoob | at first I had the logo in 3d too, but I redid then I rendered the background alone and redid the logo/shadow on photoshop | 15:30 |
| mrdoob | to have more control | 15:30 |
| thorwil | just yesterday i started to do the same in blender | 15:31 |
| thorwil | light setup showed to be tricky | 15:32 |
| thorwil | have to cut and get other things done :/ | 15:32 |
| mrdoob | know the feeling :) | 15:37 |
| mrdoob | natewiebe13: hello | 16:17 |
| natewiebe13 | hey | 16:17 |
| mrdoob | how did you ended up doing the video? | 16:21 |
| natewiebe13 | blender | 16:23 |
| natewiebe13 | haha | 16:23 |
| natewiebe13 | i didnt care about quality, just about getting the point across | 16:24 |
| mrdoob | natewiebe13: oh, didn't know blender could do that | 16:40 |
| mrdoob | the problem is, I don't think you make it clear enough to show your point | 16:40 |
| mrdoob | the boot eats 80% of your video | 16:40 |
| mrdoob | and that's the fastes boot I did | 16:40 |
| mrdoob | so your part goes too fast and is hard to understand what you're trying to communicate | 16:41 |
| mrdoob | (I think) | 16:41 |
| natewiebe13 | i know.. i havent had time to change it yet.. i had 10 minutes to throw something together and throw it up | 16:57 |
| natewiebe13 | when i have time. im going to redo it | 16:58 |
| mrdoob | cool | 17:01 |
| FLOZz | Hello all _o/ | 17:11 |
| natewiebe13 | mrdoob: have you seen MadsRH edit to your iteration 6? | 17:23 |
| mrdoob | yep | 17:24 |
| mrdoob | I'm starting to think that it's way to saturated | 17:24 |
| natewiebe13 | a bit, but it think that the ubuntu logo needs to be colored and not just black | 17:33 |
| natewiebe13 | kind of like thorwil's edit | 17:33 |
| natewiebe13 | but i very much like the mockup | 17:33 |
| mrdoob | :) | 17:34 |
| natewiebe13 | mac_v: i like your splash's | 19:58 |
| natewiebe13 | mac_v: but i think you should do an orange one.. MadsRH's is too dark/saturated, if you were to do an orange one.. i think it would be the best.. but good job btw. | 19:59 |
| mac_v | natewiebe13: mat said he didnt want tan or brown , and orange falls a bit close , anyway ,if the design team wants to do an orange one the surely could do one , but they seems to have some other plans | 20:07 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. i really dont like what they've been spitting out | 20:08 |
| natewiebe13 | madsrh and mrdoob have the best ones (also said by many comments) why dont they just listen to the community? | 20:08 |
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