[01:37] kwwii, Ah no worries. Thx. :) [03:07] mac_v: you there? [05:39] dashua: hmm... you made the border darker , it works but the think the lighter one was better ,can pixmaps be used for the bottom border? to avoid the jagged edge? [05:39] i think* [11:18] good morning [11:37] mat_t: so there you have the lit version [11:38] Hopefully people can see that there is more on that design than "Oh! it's purple!", and hopefully people will do their own colour version that suit better Ubuntu. [11:46] mrdoob: your user list is damn sleek and it connects to the background thanks to the well placed shadow. instead of being somewhat of an alien object [11:48] :D [11:48] yeah, shadows make things easier [11:48] than spotlights [11:50] I'm not 100% happy with it how the panel looks tho, not totally resolved [11:50] but it can be worked out [11:53] last time i tried to open a psd in gimp it wasn't possible at all [11:53] but this one opens in gimp 2.6.6 [11:54] as result i mainly see green from Layer 4 and a mix of elements, though [11:56] mrdoob: is Layer 4 supposed to have some special layer mode / effect applied to it? [11:57] uh, I can't remember which one it is, and I don't have photoshop here :S [11:57] plus, gimp doesn't have folders [11:57] (as far as I know) [11:57] I usually only name folders [11:58] how the he.. [11:58] ok ok, I'll leave gimp alone [11:58] yes. that's why i ask, because i can only guess a feature that gimp can't map was used [11:59] Layer 4 is just a complete fill in olive green with some variation in the middle and top right [11:59] ah [11:59] yes [11:59] that's supposed to be like that [11:59] It's just a texture [12:00] to give some colours [12:00] it's supposed to be used in overlay or something like that [12:00] that was originally a sand picture [12:00] that I blurred a lot [12:01] It should be bigger (if you move it to the left) [12:11] mrdoob: hi [12:12] Hello, is there an intention to make a theme for new GDM in ubuntu ? [12:12] AnAnt: yes, we're just about to start working on it [12:13] mrdoob: I love the depth and the gdm styling, the bg color is "a bit" over the top :) [12:15] mrdoob: would be nice to see a version with a more gentle background [12:15] i'm working on one [12:15] mat_t: is there a repository or wiki that I can look at ? [12:16] AnAnt: are you interesting in helping with technical implementation or design? [12:17] mat_t: I want to make a theme, but I dunno how [12:17] thorwil: great [12:17] mat_t: what do you mean by technical implementation ? [12:18] AnAnt: I'd probably ask thorwil or mac_v to help you get started [12:18] thorwil: is your work available online ? [12:19] * mat_t > lunch [12:19] I want to know how to make a theme for new GDM [12:19] AnAnt: are you familiar with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot? [12:20] mat_t: I'm not going to do anything more. Feel free to play with gimp/photoshop to reach a version that you like. [12:20] thorwil: ah, looking at it now, thanks [12:21] mat_t: but glad to know you liked the style [12:23] thorwil: these are just mockups, right ? [12:23] yes [12:27] thorwil: aren't there any actual themes that I can take as an example ? [12:29] usplash isn't used at startup anymore ? [12:30] AnAnt: sure. but i'm not sure about changes and incompatibilities between the used gdm versions [12:31] thorwil: where can I get them ? [12:31] AnAnt: can't help you with that [12:32] well, is there a wiki where I get info how to make a theme for new GDM ? [12:34] AnAnt: i would simply search for gdm documentation and check whether it applies to the version that will be shipped with karmic [12:36] AnAnt: AFAIK the new theme is not very customizable , it is hardcoded [12:36] gdm * [12:37] mac_v: ah, you mean those themes will be hardcoded into GDM ? [12:37] so branding won't be easy [12:39] AnAnt: the gdm code had been changed more than a year ago by upstream, ubuntu had not implemented the new gdm to allow users select the themes , the gdm graphical tool is being done as an ubuntu initiative > Bug #395299 [12:39] Launchpad bug 395299 in gdm "gdm 2.26 has no graphical configuration tool" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395299 [12:40] AnAnt: so users, as of now, wont be able to easily toggle gdm themes [12:40] mac_v: aha, thanks [12:41] mac_v: does that also apply to boot splash ? I read on this wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot), that it won't be usplash, but rather X based [12:43] AnAnt: yes default is only xsplash , but you can change it ;) to usplash if you want , the xplash coding isnt fully clear ... BTW, what is it you are actually looking for? [12:44] AnAnt: changing only for personal use ? or to make themes for users? [12:46] mac_v: for users [12:46] mac_v: I'm working on a distro based on Ubuntu [12:48] AnAnt: if you want to change the default for your distro , you could do that , but the users selecting/changing the themes for gdm is not easy ; xsplash i'm not sure [12:50] AnAnt: which distro, may i ask ? [12:50] sabily [12:51] mac_v: so, how can I change boot splash from xplash to usplash ? [12:52] AnAnt: i'm not sure of that, most of others here wouldnt know the technical details either , you could ask #ubuntu+1 ,someone might know [12:53] ok, thanks [12:53] AnAnt: my guess would be just replace xsplash with usplash [12:53] np [12:54] mrdoob: gave up on the boot ? ;p [13:25] mrdoob: no worries, thanks a lot for your input! [13:28] mat_t: could you add some intro to this page? as to how it should be directed and stuff > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Login [13:37] http://www.blendernation.com/tutorial-painting-time-lapse-by-david-revoy/ [13:38] mac_v: there you go [13:39] mat_t: thanx :) [13:40] mat_t: you might wanna inform the mailing list about this page, to get more ideas [13:41] * mac_v going to be killed soon ;p [13:44] mac_v: no no, haven't give up the boot. It's just that I have other things to do, learning Android/OpenGL ES at the moment :D [13:44] mat_t: you're welcome, I hope I was any use === mrdoob1 is now known as mrdoob [14:23] mac_v: i said you should talk with mat_t, not get him to do all the work ;) [14:24] thorwil: sssh! [14:24] :0 [14:25] thorwil: actually i didnt know what direction he would want :( , also the mail to the list is out of my league [14:47] thorwil: that was just ctrl+v, not to worry :) [14:50] * mac_v was feeling bad for over-burdening mat_t :/ [14:50] hmm... [14:53] * SiDi yawns [14:54] * mat_t does not undertake any tasks that actually involve work [14:54] (with few exceptions) [14:54] like, when it's Canonical who asks ? :P [14:57] mat_t: could you send the mail to the list about the gdm ideas? :) [14:57] * mat_t has a bit of a weak spot for sabdfl, true [14:57] mac_v: no [14:57] ah well... [14:57] ;) [14:58] mac_v: I'll get kwwii to do some work when he gets back from his undeserved holidays [14:58] lol [14:59] mat_t: he was here yesterday [14:59] mat_t: we can manage to not let him leave France, and then you're forced to work [15:00] SiDi: sounds great [15:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mrdoob_07_tw_splash.png [15:08] That's... bright [15:09] * thorwil wonders if SiDi is, too [15:09] thorwil: needs more shadow [15:09] for the logo [15:11] thorwil: maybe you should put your iteration under the comments to avoid confusion [15:12] interesting edit by the way [15:12] a shame the throbber (however it's spelled) is lost in the f0f0f0 range :S [15:13] mrdoob: dang, i actually meant to place that after the comments [15:13] :] [15:15] a benefit of using only black/grey version of the logo [15:16] is that the integration with the environment is cheap, if you think about light refraction [15:16] in your design the logo perhaps doesn't fit much because the environment doesn't get affected by it [15:16] thorwil: hehe... i think the boot fits perfectly for mint linux [15:17] meaning this: http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/imgs/cbox_spectral.jpg [15:18] mrdoob: i tried all white. didn't work. all black is too harsh [15:18] mrdoob: there actually is slight coloration from the background on the logo [15:18] mrdoob: you wouldn't see much in the other direction with real objects in such a setting [15:19] well on the bottom [15:19] actually [15:19] I should have also shared the 3D file I did for generating the background... [15:19] thorwil: uh, everything but green please... :) [15:19] what's with the competition with Mint? [15:20] mat_t: no lighter brown tones, no orange, no yellow. no purple or pink. to cold tones and now also no green [15:20] great [15:20] haha [15:21] mat_t: sounds like a proper client [15:21] :) [15:21] thorwil: an idea I had to avoid all the colour bullshit thing would be to make it multicolour [15:21] something like this [15:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UbuntuColorsIcons?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=themesthumb.png [15:22] more subtle of course [15:23] mrdoob: i have been a proponent of a 2 or 3 tone approach since long. actually my edit contains green, beige and blue tones [15:24] ops... str_replace("buillshit","annoyance"); [15:24] mrdoob: no, it was right and now is wrong ;) [15:25] haha [15:25] svn revert [15:26] i thought a bit about a non-center position for the logo. golden section. following account selection would be tricky to layout, though [15:27] that is tricky if you don't have much control of the target resolution [15:27] mrdoob: you mentioned a 3d file. blender? [15:27] center is safe [15:27] thorwil: unfortunatelly 3dsmax :( [15:28] I could have done it in blender, I haven't used to it yet, can I import .svg to blender? [15:28] yes [15:29] uhm, right, I wasted more time installing illustrator for converting the .svg to .ai and then importing on .max than learning blender and importing .svg [15:29] :( [15:29] not sure about that [15:29] first steps into blender are hard [15:29] but it isn't much, it's a wall/floor with round connection [15:30] and 3 lights [15:30] at first I had the logo in 3d too, but I redid then I rendered the background alone and redid the logo/shadow on photoshop [15:30] to have more control [15:31] just yesterday i started to do the same in blender [15:32] light setup showed to be tricky [15:32] have to cut and get other things done :/ [15:37] know the feeling :) [16:17] natewiebe13: hello [16:17] hey [16:21] how did you ended up doing the video? [16:23] blender [16:23] haha [16:24] i didnt care about quality, just about getting the point across [16:40] natewiebe13: oh, didn't know blender could do that [16:40] the problem is, I don't think you make it clear enough to show your point [16:40] the boot eats 80% of your video [16:40] and that's the fastes boot I did [16:41] so your part goes too fast and is hard to understand what you're trying to communicate [16:41] (I think) [16:57] i know.. i havent had time to change it yet.. i had 10 minutes to throw something together and throw it up [16:58] when i have time. im going to redo it [17:01] cool [17:11] Hello all _o/ [17:23] mrdoob: have you seen MadsRH edit to your iteration 6? [17:24] yep [17:24] I'm starting to think that it's way to saturated [17:33] a bit, but it think that the ubuntu logo needs to be colored and not just black [17:33] kind of like thorwil's edit [17:33] but i very much like the mockup [17:34] :) [19:58] mac_v: i like your splash's [19:59] mac_v: but i think you should do an orange one.. MadsRH's is too dark/saturated, if you were to do an orange one.. i think it would be the best.. but good job btw. [20:07] natewiebe13: mat said he didnt want tan or brown , and orange falls a bit close , anyway ,if the design team wants to do an orange one the surely could do one , but they seems to have some other plans [20:08] yeah.. i really dont like what they've been spitting out [20:08] madsrh and mrdoob have the best ones (also said by many comments) why dont they just listen to the community?