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micahgping hggdh05:18
micahgbdmurray: LP teams and karma is broken in edge05:48
micahgbdmurray: for the improvements extension05:49
bdmurrayyeah, I looked at it some today but haven't figured it out yet05:51
micahgok05:53
micahgjust wanted to let you know05:53
bdmurraythanks05:55
micahgbdmurray: where do I file bugs for the status.qa pages?06:10
bdmurrayumm, how about qa-website?06:10
micahgok06:10
micahgdidn't know that existed06:10
bdmurrayhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/06:11
micahgis there an easy way to install all dbg or dbgsym packages for a program?07:12
mac_vmicahg: what do you mean by all ?07:13
micahgall the packages required to get a proper backtrace07:14
micahgmaybe I'll just upload it to LP07:14
micahgthis is too much work :)07:14
mac_vAFAIK , each program has only one dbg07:14
micahgyes, but every program it's based on also has one07:15
mac_voh for that, hmm...07:17
mac_vmicahg: bug# ?07:18
micahgwell, I produced a crash for a bug07:19
mac_vi think we can list the depends and ask the reporter to install them07:19
micahgtoo tired to do this now07:21
mac_vhehe ;)07:21
dholbachgood morning07:58
thekornhey dholbach08:12
thekornawesome developer weeke brochure08:13
dholbachthanks :)08:13
thekornlooks very professional08:13
dholbachI did it, but somebody else made it look good :)08:13
thekorndholbach, hehe, ok just wanted to ask you why you did not use scribus or some other open source alternative to InDesign08:17
dholbachI never touched InDesign08:17
thekornbut hey, it was someone else08:17
dholbachyes08:17
dholbachI guess it's just what they're good with08:17
alourie|workdholbach: can I see it?08:20
alourie|workthe brochure I mean08:20
dholbachhttp://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/Ubuntu_Developer_Week4.pdf08:20
dholbachwhat I did beforehand: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/udw.odt08:20
X-SetiI think i have a bug, thats stopping any remote devices from being mounted, I can not seem to find what is doing this, say nova-t Stick I get the following08:43
X-Seti9.04.. [202905.393041] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 26 [202905.528011] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [202905.551334] vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size. k@ubuntu:~$ vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size.08:44
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charles_kklimonda: any ideas on bug 406486?12:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 406486 in transmission "transmission: too many open files" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40648612:25
qensebug #410763 seems rather complicated. At first I thought it was caused by GStreamer, but now I'm not that sure anymore. Anyone got a clue on what causes this? It is about (at least) Banshee and Rhythmbox freezing X after a while of playback. Killing the process frees the X server again.12:28
ubot4Launchpad bug 410763 in banshee "[karmic] Banshee freeze after some song playback" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41076312:28
qenselunch time! I got to go, but I'll read the backlog in case anyone gets a sudden revelation. ;)12:31
bullgard4dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek <- "Alert; The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded."13:22
dholbachbei mir geht die13:23
dholbachoh... well - it works for me13:23
bullgard4Yes, pardon. Firefox opens this URL but Seamonkey reports the error posted. (*surprise*)13:26
mac_vguys , https//bugs.edge.launchpad ? is a beta version of lp?13:34
yetjeacyutnofthi, karmic not support nvidia driver13:57
Ampelbeinyetjeacyutnoft: which one? what graphics card? nvidia-driver works flawless on my system with a Geforce 7600GT14:04
yetjeacyutnofti try karmic, setup nvidia driver and down X14:05
yetjeacyutnoftremove nvidia driver, and remove xorg.conf, up X14:06
yetjeacyutnoftthanks14:06
Ampelbeinyetjeacyutnoft: without more information like your graphics card, we can't help you. Please also use #ubuntu for user support, this channel is about triaging bug reports.14:08
yetjeacyutnoftok14:12
bddebianBoo15:06
andresmujicaok15:30
andresmujicahmm, i was wondering why the OK didn't appeared at the other window...15:39
greg-gpedro_: just a quick question, will Banshee be the default media player in Karmic or Rhythmbox. Banshee looks like it is still in the universe repository so that suggests Rhthmbox will be default.16:28
greg-gpedro_: I ask because the hug day reminded me.16:28
pedro_greg-g, not sure, there's still a few blockers on banshee16:30
pedro_no accessibility support yet16:31
pedro_ipod support is broken (no devicekit support)16:31
pedro_etc16:31
pedro_time will tell, but looks like we're not moving from now16:32
pedro_s/from/for16:32
greg-gpedro_: gotcha, thanks16:34
pedro_you're welcome16:34
micahgbdmurray: do we prefer the partner repo to multiverse?17:10
bdmurraymicahg: I hadn't thought about that before, what is the situation?17:12
micahgbug 41508917:12
ubot4Launchpad bug 415089 in firefox-3.5 "Can't watch a streaming video on certain sites." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41508917:12
micahguser has flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin installed17:12
micahgthere's a bug open to make the partner package conflict17:12
micahgso, does that mean we prefer the partner package if it's the one that conflicts?17:13
bdmurrayNo, I think it is whichever you install last if you will.17:15
micahgso it doesn't mattter?17:15
micahgidk which one the user installed last17:16
bdmurrayIsn't the conflict bug unfixed?17:16
micahgcorrect17:17
micahgthat's why I have to ask the user to uninstall one17:17
micahgso I'm just wondering which one17:17
micahgand if we have a policy17:17
bdmurrayno, there is no policy17:18
micahgok17:18
micahgthanks17:18
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Flomarhello18:17
mdzbdmurray, is bughelper still actively maintained?18:19
bdmurraymdz: no, not really18:19
mdzogasawara: we need a tool which scans open bugs for those which match apport bugpatterns and marks the duplicates automatically (better to have the discussion on this channel I guess)18:19
mdzbdmurray, has it been superseded by something else?18:19
mdzbdmurray, see above, I'm interested in scanning existing bugs for apport bugpatterns (to clean up the bugs which were filed before the bugpattern was created)18:20
mdzbughelper, from what I remember, seemed like it might be a good starting point18:20
ogasawaramdz: I was thinking if we could leverage bughelper we might be able to add on some lplib script to mark the duplicate18:21
bdmurraymdz: this is for the pattern you recently committed?18:22
bdmurrayif so, I don't think bughelper ever checked attachments18:24
ogasawarabdmurray: I thought there was some -a option to check attachments?18:25
mdzbdmurray, I've committed a few recently18:25
bdmurrayogasawara: okay, you seem to be right18:26
ogasawarabdmurray: but I'm not sure if it properly handles the ones that are zipped up18:27
Flomarhello sirs, are there bugs related with nvidia drivers and jaunty? i`m working 2 days trying ALL combinations in the google universe and asking many people in the #ubuntu forum but no solution so far18:27
ogasawaraFlomar: can you be more specific?  there's lots of bugs related to nvidia :)18:27
Flomarogasawara, :) for sure... all story gives a novel, but let`s go to the point.18:28
Flomarogasawara, i`ve done a fresh install from 9.0.4 jaunty in my intel chipset mb with nvidia geforce 7100 gs offboard video card.18:29
ogasawaraFlomar: reporting it in a bug is probably the best approach18:29
ogasawaraFlomar: that'll save you writing it up twice and then you can just point us at the bug18:30
Flomarok18:30
Flomarin launchped, right?18:30
ogasawaraFlomar: yup, that'd be great18:31
bdmurrayusing ubuntu-bug to report it would be ideal18:32
Flomarogasawara, thx i`m opening a bug ticket.18:32
mdzogasawara, what I'm doing for the moment is just running test-local from ubuntu-bugpatterns over the bugs18:36
mdzit's faster than manually reading DpkgTerminalLog.txt18:36
mdzand gets a lot of hits18:37
ogasawaramdz: so we could do an ugly hack and search all linux bugs tagged apport-package and run the test-local script against them18:38
ogasawaramdz: and mark them as a duplicate accordingly18:39
bdmurraybughelper is rather slow since it isn't using the API, in the past I've done some one off searches using launchpadlib18:39
mdzogasawara, yes, it wouldn't be too hard to have it automatically mark the duplicate if it's a match18:39
bdmurrayI am getting some matches with bughelper though18:42
bdmurrayogasawara: I've used bughelper successfully to search using a pattern for bug 407420 and it took about 25 minutes18:50
ubot4Launchpad bug 407420 in linux ""Failed to run depmod", no clear reason why" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40742018:50
ogasawarabdmurray: how many bugs did it find?18:51
bdmurrayogasawara: 718:51
bdmurrayhowever, I don't think it worked with gz attachments like you suggested18:52
ogasawarabdmurray: so still not ideal.  I think since test-local can handle the gz attachments I wonder if writing the other hack would be better?18:53
ogasawarabdmurray: but finding those 7 is definitely better than nothing18:53
ogasawarabdmurray: and the test-local will handle all bug patterns written18:54
bdmurrayogasawara: that seems like it might be a better long term solution18:55
bdmurraya neat thing about bughelper was doing one off clues though18:55
Flare-Laptopbdmurray: Yeah, I agree. But I wish there was an GUI application that can help me triage bugs.19:02
bdmurrayogasawara: so the failure to run depmod bugs should be duplicates of 407420?19:12
ogasawarabdmurray: correct19:13
micahgbdmurray: what to do about people who keep changing there bugs to private for no reason?19:30
bdmurraytry to explain to them that less people will see the bug report then and it will be less likely to get fixed and if its still a problem let it go19:31
hggdhalso, just in case, check to see if there is any private data there that might justify the move19:36
micahgnope,  bug 41569619:38
ubot4micahg: Bug 415696 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/415696 is private19:38
micahgogasawara: is it worth filing a bug about the kernel package that it should only prompt for system reboot if the kernel is a higher version than the one running?19:41
ogasawaramicahg: that doesn't seem like a kernel bug but rather a whishlist request for update-manager.  secondly I'm not sure I agree with it since there are scenarios where you want to install an older kernel to say verify a regression19:47
micahgogasawara: true, but should it prompt for reboot for that?19:51
micahgI thought each package tells the update manager whether or not a reboot is required.  Are you saying that update-manager just has a list?19:52
micahgdo we add debian upstream bugs for upgrade requests?20:15
greg-gmicahg: as in a request for a new version of a package that is also not in Debian?20:17
micahgas we both have the package but an older version20:18
greg-gyeah, add the debian link so we'll know when it gets into debian (which makes it waaaay easier to get it into Ubuntu)20:19
bdmurrayogasawara: I've marked the ones bughelper found as duplicates20:37
bdmurrayjdstrand: I've created a duplicating marking script that uses update-bug and modified update-bug but I'm curious about how to organize these in the ubuntu-qa-tools branch.  Do you have any thoughts?21:06
jdstrandbdmurray: maybe move update-bug out of responses/security into responses? the security scripts would need to be update (or a symlink created)21:07
bdmurrayjdstrand: I was thinking move it too, so will move it and add a symlink21:09
mac_vdoes any one know how to restart the apport retraces? , they seems stuck21:29
mac_vseem*21:29
bdmurraymac_v: I'm looking into it21:34
mac_vbdmurray: thanks , BTW , i'v filed a Bug #41610621:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 416106 in apport "totem-plugin-viewer bugs make the retracers crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41610621:34
hggdhbdmurray, pedro_ -- I had a chat with dtchen, and he is willing to give a class on triaging sound bugs22:05
hggdhdarn, he is also here :-)22:05
bdmurrayhggdh: that sounds good, what did you have in mind?22:11

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