| micahg | ping hggdh | 05:18 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | bdmurray: LP teams and karma is broken in edge | 05:48 |
| micahg | bdmurray: for the improvements extension | 05:49 |
| bdmurray | yeah, I looked at it some today but haven't figured it out yet | 05:51 |
| micahg | ok | 05:53 |
| micahg | just wanted to let you know | 05:53 |
| bdmurray | thanks | 05:55 |
| micahg | bdmurray: where do I file bugs for the status.qa pages? | 06:10 |
| bdmurray | umm, how about qa-website? | 06:10 |
| micahg | ok | 06:10 |
| micahg | didn't know that existed | 06:10 |
| bdmurray | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/ | 06:11 |
| micahg | is there an easy way to install all dbg or dbgsym packages for a program? | 07:12 |
| mac_v | micahg: what do you mean by all ? | 07:13 |
| micahg | all the packages required to get a proper backtrace | 07:14 |
| micahg | maybe I'll just upload it to LP | 07:14 |
| micahg | this is too much work :) | 07:14 |
| mac_v | AFAIK , each program has only one dbg | 07:14 |
| micahg | yes, but every program it's based on also has one | 07:15 |
| mac_v | oh for that, hmm... | 07:17 |
| mac_v | micahg: bug# ? | 07:18 |
| micahg | well, I produced a crash for a bug | 07:19 |
| mac_v | i think we can list the depends and ask the reporter to install them | 07:19 |
| micahg | too tired to do this now | 07:21 |
| mac_v | hehe ;) | 07:21 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:58 |
| thekorn | hey dholbach | 08:12 |
| thekorn | awesome developer weeke brochure | 08:13 |
| dholbach | thanks :) | 08:13 |
| thekorn | looks very professional | 08:13 |
| dholbach | I did it, but somebody else made it look good :) | 08:13 |
| thekorn | dholbach, hehe, ok just wanted to ask you why you did not use scribus or some other open source alternative to InDesign | 08:17 |
| dholbach | I never touched InDesign | 08:17 |
| thekorn | but hey, it was someone else | 08:17 |
| dholbach | yes | 08:17 |
| dholbach | I guess it's just what they're good with | 08:17 |
| alourie|work | dholbach: can I see it? | 08:20 |
| alourie|work | the brochure I mean | 08:20 |
| dholbach | http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/Ubuntu_Developer_Week4.pdf | 08:20 |
| dholbach | what I did beforehand: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/udw.odt | 08:20 |
| X-Seti | I think i have a bug, thats stopping any remote devices from being mounted, I can not seem to find what is doing this, say nova-t Stick I get the following | 08:43 |
| X-Seti | 9.04.. [202905.393041] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 26 [202905.528011] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [202905.551334] vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size. k@ubuntu:~$ vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size. | 08:44 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| charles_ | kklimonda: any ideas on bug 406486? | 12:25 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 406486 in transmission "transmission: too many open files" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406486 | 12:25 |
| qense | bug #410763 seems rather complicated. At first I thought it was caused by GStreamer, but now I'm not that sure anymore. Anyone got a clue on what causes this? It is about (at least) Banshee and Rhythmbox freezing X after a while of playback. Killing the process frees the X server again. | 12:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 410763 in banshee "[karmic] Banshee freeze after some song playback" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410763 | 12:28 |
| qense | lunch time! I got to go, but I'll read the backlog in case anyone gets a sudden revelation. ;) | 12:31 |
| bullgard4 | dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek <- "Alert; The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded." | 13:22 |
| dholbach | bei mir geht die | 13:23 |
| dholbach | oh... well - it works for me | 13:23 |
| bullgard4 | Yes, pardon. Firefox opens this URL but Seamonkey reports the error posted. (*surprise*) | 13:26 |
| mac_v | guys , https//bugs.edge.launchpad ? is a beta version of lp? | 13:34 |
| yetjeacyutnoft | hi, karmic not support nvidia driver | 13:57 |
| Ampelbein | yetjeacyutnoft: which one? what graphics card? nvidia-driver works flawless on my system with a Geforce 7600GT | 14:04 |
| yetjeacyutnoft | i try karmic, setup nvidia driver and down X | 14:05 |
| yetjeacyutnoft | remove nvidia driver, and remove xorg.conf, up X | 14:06 |
| yetjeacyutnoft | thanks | 14:06 |
| Ampelbein | yetjeacyutnoft: without more information like your graphics card, we can't help you. Please also use #ubuntu for user support, this channel is about triaging bug reports. | 14:08 |
| yetjeacyutnoft | ok | 14:12 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:06 |
| andresmujica | ok | 15:30 |
| andresmujica | hmm, i was wondering why the OK didn't appeared at the other window... | 15:39 |
| greg-g | pedro_: just a quick question, will Banshee be the default media player in Karmic or Rhythmbox. Banshee looks like it is still in the universe repository so that suggests Rhthmbox will be default. | 16:28 |
| greg-g | pedro_: I ask because the hug day reminded me. | 16:28 |
| pedro_ | greg-g, not sure, there's still a few blockers on banshee | 16:30 |
| pedro_ | no accessibility support yet | 16:31 |
| pedro_ | ipod support is broken (no devicekit support) | 16:31 |
| pedro_ | etc | 16:31 |
| pedro_ | time will tell, but looks like we're not moving from now | 16:32 |
| pedro_ | s/from/for | 16:32 |
| greg-g | pedro_: gotcha, thanks | 16:34 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 16:34 |
| micahg | bdmurray: do we prefer the partner repo to multiverse? | 17:10 |
| bdmurray | micahg: I hadn't thought about that before, what is the situation? | 17:12 |
| micahg | bug 415089 | 17:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 415089 in firefox-3.5 "Can't watch a streaming video on certain sites." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415089 | 17:12 |
| micahg | user has flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin installed | 17:12 |
| micahg | there's a bug open to make the partner package conflict | 17:12 |
| micahg | so, does that mean we prefer the partner package if it's the one that conflicts? | 17:13 |
| bdmurray | No, I think it is whichever you install last if you will. | 17:15 |
| micahg | so it doesn't mattter? | 17:15 |
| micahg | idk which one the user installed last | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | Isn't the conflict bug unfixed? | 17:16 |
| micahg | correct | 17:17 |
| micahg | that's why I have to ask the user to uninstall one | 17:17 |
| micahg | so I'm just wondering which one | 17:17 |
| micahg | and if we have a policy | 17:17 |
| bdmurray | no, there is no policy | 17:18 |
| micahg | ok | 17:18 |
| micahg | thanks | 17:18 |
| === Flare183 is now known as Flare-Laptop | ||
| Flomar | hello | 18:17 |
| mdz | bdmurray, is bughelper still actively maintained? | 18:19 |
| bdmurray | mdz: no, not really | 18:19 |
| mdz | ogasawara: we need a tool which scans open bugs for those which match apport bugpatterns and marks the duplicates automatically (better to have the discussion on this channel I guess) | 18:19 |
| mdz | bdmurray, has it been superseded by something else? | 18:19 |
| mdz | bdmurray, see above, I'm interested in scanning existing bugs for apport bugpatterns (to clean up the bugs which were filed before the bugpattern was created) | 18:20 |
| mdz | bughelper, from what I remember, seemed like it might be a good starting point | 18:20 |
| ogasawara | mdz: I was thinking if we could leverage bughelper we might be able to add on some lplib script to mark the duplicate | 18:21 |
| bdmurray | mdz: this is for the pattern you recently committed? | 18:22 |
| bdmurray | if so, I don't think bughelper ever checked attachments | 18:24 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: I thought there was some -a option to check attachments? | 18:25 |
| mdz | bdmurray, I've committed a few recently | 18:25 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: okay, you seem to be right | 18:26 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: but I'm not sure if it properly handles the ones that are zipped up | 18:27 |
| Flomar | hello sirs, are there bugs related with nvidia drivers and jaunty? i`m working 2 days trying ALL combinations in the google universe and asking many people in the #ubuntu forum but no solution so far | 18:27 |
| ogasawara | Flomar: can you be more specific? there's lots of bugs related to nvidia :) | 18:27 |
| Flomar | ogasawara, :) for sure... all story gives a novel, but let`s go to the point. | 18:28 |
| Flomar | ogasawara, i`ve done a fresh install from 9.0.4 jaunty in my intel chipset mb with nvidia geforce 7100 gs offboard video card. | 18:29 |
| ogasawara | Flomar: reporting it in a bug is probably the best approach | 18:29 |
| ogasawara | Flomar: that'll save you writing it up twice and then you can just point us at the bug | 18:30 |
| Flomar | ok | 18:30 |
| Flomar | in launchped, right? | 18:30 |
| ogasawara | Flomar: yup, that'd be great | 18:31 |
| bdmurray | using ubuntu-bug to report it would be ideal | 18:32 |
| Flomar | ogasawara, thx i`m opening a bug ticket. | 18:32 |
| mdz | ogasawara, what I'm doing for the moment is just running test-local from ubuntu-bugpatterns over the bugs | 18:36 |
| mdz | it's faster than manually reading DpkgTerminalLog.txt | 18:36 |
| mdz | and gets a lot of hits | 18:37 |
| ogasawara | mdz: so we could do an ugly hack and search all linux bugs tagged apport-package and run the test-local script against them | 18:38 |
| ogasawara | mdz: and mark them as a duplicate accordingly | 18:39 |
| bdmurray | bughelper is rather slow since it isn't using the API, in the past I've done some one off searches using launchpadlib | 18:39 |
| mdz | ogasawara, yes, it wouldn't be too hard to have it automatically mark the duplicate if it's a match | 18:39 |
| bdmurray | I am getting some matches with bughelper though | 18:42 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: I've used bughelper successfully to search using a pattern for bug 407420 and it took about 25 minutes | 18:50 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 407420 in linux ""Failed to run depmod", no clear reason why" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407420 | 18:50 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: how many bugs did it find? | 18:51 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: 7 | 18:51 |
| bdmurray | however, I don't think it worked with gz attachments like you suggested | 18:52 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: so still not ideal. I think since test-local can handle the gz attachments I wonder if writing the other hack would be better? | 18:53 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: but finding those 7 is definitely better than nothing | 18:53 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: and the test-local will handle all bug patterns written | 18:54 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: that seems like it might be a better long term solution | 18:55 |
| bdmurray | a neat thing about bughelper was doing one off clues though | 18:55 |
| Flare-Laptop | bdmurray: Yeah, I agree. But I wish there was an GUI application that can help me triage bugs. | 19:02 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: so the failure to run depmod bugs should be duplicates of 407420? | 19:12 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: correct | 19:13 |
| micahg | bdmurray: what to do about people who keep changing there bugs to private for no reason? | 19:30 |
| bdmurray | try to explain to them that less people will see the bug report then and it will be less likely to get fixed and if its still a problem let it go | 19:31 |
| hggdh | also, just in case, check to see if there is any private data there that might justify the move | 19:36 |
| micahg | nope, bug 415696 | 19:38 |
| ubot4 | micahg: Bug 415696 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/415696 is private | 19:38 |
| micahg | ogasawara: is it worth filing a bug about the kernel package that it should only prompt for system reboot if the kernel is a higher version than the one running? | 19:41 |
| ogasawara | micahg: that doesn't seem like a kernel bug but rather a whishlist request for update-manager. secondly I'm not sure I agree with it since there are scenarios where you want to install an older kernel to say verify a regression | 19:47 |
| micahg | ogasawara: true, but should it prompt for reboot for that? | 19:51 |
| micahg | I thought each package tells the update manager whether or not a reboot is required. Are you saying that update-manager just has a list? | 19:52 |
| micahg | do we add debian upstream bugs for upgrade requests? | 20:15 |
| greg-g | micahg: as in a request for a new version of a package that is also not in Debian? | 20:17 |
| micahg | as we both have the package but an older version | 20:18 |
| greg-g | yeah, add the debian link so we'll know when it gets into debian (which makes it waaaay easier to get it into Ubuntu) | 20:19 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: I've marked the ones bughelper found as duplicates | 20:37 |
| bdmurray | jdstrand: I've created a duplicating marking script that uses update-bug and modified update-bug but I'm curious about how to organize these in the ubuntu-qa-tools branch. Do you have any thoughts? | 21:06 |
| jdstrand | bdmurray: maybe move update-bug out of responses/security into responses? the security scripts would need to be update (or a symlink created) | 21:07 |
| bdmurray | jdstrand: I was thinking move it too, so will move it and add a symlink | 21:09 |
| mac_v | does any one know how to restart the apport retraces? , they seems stuck | 21:29 |
| mac_v | seem* | 21:29 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: I'm looking into it | 21:34 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: thanks , BTW , i'v filed a Bug #416106 | 21:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416106 in apport "totem-plugin-viewer bugs make the retracers crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416106 | 21:34 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, pedro_ -- I had a chat with dtchen, and he is willing to give a class on triaging sound bugs | 22:05 |
| hggdh | darn, he is also here :-) | 22:05 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: that sounds good, what did you have in mind? | 22:11 |
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