[00:12] <fta> links in liferea are almost invisible with a dark theme
[00:19] <BUGabundo> redenting "fta: next !ubuntu daily build of #chromium for x64 will be native, no more ia32-libs craziness (starting with 4.0.203.0)"
[00:21] <fta> BUGabundo, if you want but it's not yet in the ppa
[00:21] <fta> i'm doing a final build locally
[00:21] <BUGabundo> no need
[00:21] <BUGabundo> I'll pull it tomorrow
[00:21] <BUGabundo> I wonder if I can make it work on debian
[00:21] <BUGabundo> what version should I use?
[00:21] <BUGabundo> karmic? hardy?
[00:22] <fta> no idea
[00:28] <micahg> asac: so the new TB3 also has xulrunner integrated vs separate?
[00:34] <asac_> micahg: yes. unfortunately libxulification isnt complete yet
[00:35] <asac_> BUGabundo: 3g should be fixed in dailies
[00:35] <micahg> ok, also, what are plans for TB3 in karmic?
[00:35] <asac_> BUGabundo: but i guess i already said that ;)
[00:35] <asac_> micahg: no idea.
[00:35] <BUGabundo> asac I started mine *before* upgradeing :)
[00:35] <asac_> really
[00:35] <asac_> k
[00:35] <BUGabundo> it complained about a lib depency
[00:35] <BUGabundo> and then upgraded
[00:35] <micahg> ok, when is a good time to tlak about that?
[00:36] <BUGabundo> asac I didn't catch you saying that before
[00:36] <asac_> micahg: i am not sure if we should put it in or even make it the defalt ;)
[00:36] <micahg> now they are talking RC1 around karmic release time
[00:36] <asac_> tbird moves real slow
[00:36] <micahg> they're kicking it into "high" gear
[00:36] <asac_> would be great, but they kicked it a few times alrewady ;)
[00:36] <asac_> but yes. i think they are kind of forced to do that
[00:37] <micahg> they're dropping most of the remaining missing features and focusing on a stable release with what it has
[00:37] <micahg> and planning an update soon theraeafter with the rest
[00:38] <micahg> if release will be in Nov/Dev, maybe we can do a tb2/tb3 in karmic with tb the defau;t?
[00:38] <asac_> micahg: we dont have a default in karmic
[00:38] <asac_> its just in main. not on CD
[00:38] <micahg> ah, ok
[00:39] <micahg> so, can we throw tb3 in univers?
[00:39] <asac_> default is probably defined through the "thunderbird" meta package (which isnt a meta package in tbird 2 fwiw)
[00:39] <asac_> i am not sure
[00:39] <asac_> i mean. we probably could
[00:40] <asac_> but i am not sure we want to do that
[00:40] <micahg> I guess it depends how fast TB will start moving
[00:40] <micahg> they're talking agile
[00:40] <asac_> talk is cheap ;)
[00:40] <micahg> right, which is why I'll keep watching :)
[00:41] <asac_> i think we are quite well prepared to act swiftly if we have reason to believe that it should go in
[00:41] <micahg> cool
[00:41] <asac_> maybe we should call for more extensive testing somewhere
[00:41]  * micahg is afraid to test
[00:42]  * micahg has 11 mail accounts in  TB
[00:42] <asac_> heh
[00:42] <asac_> imap? or pop?
[00:42] <micahg> IMAP
[00:42] <BUGabundo> I won't leave my kmail
[00:42] <asac_> then its not really dangerous ... backup your complete .mozilla-thunderbird directory and use tbird 3 ;)
[00:42] <asac_> ah
[00:43] <micahg> ok, so no worry of deleting one message deleting all the mail on my IMAP server?
[00:43] <BUGabundo> jejeeje
[00:43] <asac_> i would hope not
[00:43] <BUGabundo> does thay happen ?
[00:43] <BUGabundo> lolol
[00:43] <micahg> ok, BTW, I think I know what the problem was earlier
[00:43] <asac_> of course you never know ;) ... but that applies all the time
[00:43] <micahg> my company just switched from mbox to maildir
[00:43] <asac_> did it go away?
[00:43] <micahg> I think TB didn't handle the switch weel
[00:43] <BUGabundo> well kmail used to corrupt them on arrival
[00:44] <BUGabundo> or mess stuff on server do to antispam filtering
[00:44] <asac_> micahg: and then got a huge memory leak? or are you talking about something else?
[00:44] <BUGabundo> so it *can* happen
[00:44] <micahg> current TB usage is normal
[00:44] <micahg> yes, memory leak
[00:44] <asac_> kmail is crack
[00:44] <asac_> dont use that
[00:44] <asac_> ;)
[00:44] <micahg> I think it happened when TB started to d/l all the headers from the new maildir files
[00:44] <BUGabundo> I love it
[00:44] <asac_> micahg: why would tbird get problems due to that?
[00:44] <asac_> micahg: did the imap structure change completely?
[00:44] <BUGabundo> best email client after mutt
[00:45] <micahg> folder structure was the same, but maildir instead of mbox
[00:45] <micahg> idk why that would do anything
[00:45] <micahg> should I file a bug?
[00:45] <micahg> I can't prove that was it, but that was the only weird thing
[00:45] <asac_> maybe just a server restart and dangling connections or so?
[00:45] <asac_> micahg: if you know how to reproduce then yes
[00:45] <asac_> otherwise probably no ;)
[00:45] <micahg> ok
[00:46] <BUGabundo> asac did you look up on that bug I filed on FF 3.7?
[00:46] <asac_> no ;)
[00:46] <BUGabundo> its q regressiong from early 3.5
[00:46] <BUGabundo> or maibe even 3.0
[00:46] <asac_> dont see a bug there yet
[00:46] <asac_> where was it filed?
[00:48] <BUGabundo> uptream
[00:49] <BUGabundo> let me do a quick test on todays daily
[00:49] <BUGabundo> asac I know you don't like it
[00:49] <BUGabundo> but can we rename 3.6?
[00:50] <BUGabundo> it messes my gnome do to have two minefield
[00:53] <fta> damn, system sqlite is still broken
[00:53] <fta> ok, i will drop it for now, i want to update the ppa
[00:55] <micahg> asac: if there's a bug for something upstream, and I have the same problem, should I file a bug in our tracker as well?
[00:57] <fta> grrr src/third_party/sqlite/preload-cache.patch
[00:57] <asac_> micahg: as you wish. i would think we have enough bugs. otoh it might help to catch dupes
[00:58]  * micahg found it in our tracker bug 127960 :)
[00:58] <micahg> but this has 2 issues
[00:58] <micahg> the second issue is mine
[00:59] <BUGabundo> %7D/components/dhMedialinkProbe.js:52
[00:59] <BUGabundo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:59] <BUGabundo> oh great
[00:59] <BUGabundo> new FF chrash
[00:59] <asac_> micahg: so link it with the upstream bug ;)
[00:59] <BUGabundo> asac is this going to be like this up to release?
[01:00] <micahg> ok, what about the other issue
[01:00] <micahg> about not warning users
[01:01] <micahg> since we can't link 2 upstream bugs to one report right now
[01:02] <asac_> i only see one problem: wrong button order / image
[01:02] <fta> so it's either no sqlite3Preload, or no system sqlite
[01:02] <micahg> the other is a request to warn users they may lose their work
[01:05] <asac_> i dont know. for me that sounds related. "improve the dialog" ;)
[01:05] <BUGabundo> asac fta: I still get the fullscreen bug with todays daily :(
[01:05] <micahg> ok
[01:05] <micahg> will do
[01:05] <asac_> if they track it independently upstream we can open a new bug or add two upstream bugs ... i think that works
[01:06] <micahg> asac: something like this won't be fixed in 3.0 at this point, right?
[01:08] <BUGabundo> bed time
[01:09] <BUGabundo> bye guys
[01:09] <micahg> also, is it bad for me to request wanted on things in bugzilla?
[01:27] <asac_> micahg: depends ... we should look at them in detail first
[01:27] <asac_> if its important etc.
[01:27] <asac_> anyone i am out ... talk to you tomorrow
[01:28] <asac_> bye
[01:28] <micahg> asac which Q are you answering?
[01:57] <fta> asac, http://codereview.chromium.org/173033 (see the last comment)
[09:17] <gnomefreak> does anyone else have profiles for firefox-3.1 and 3.2 in .mozilla?
[10:06] <asac> gnomefreak: could be that those are old
[10:07] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah thought about that after asking sorry
[10:09] <eagles0513875> morning asac
[10:13] <gnomefreak> oh crap what is the exception called for new packages :(
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ah FFE
[10:19] <asac> hehe
[10:19] <asac> yeah
[10:19] <asac> eagles0513875: hi
[10:19] <gnomefreak> as do mee a favor and comment on bug 356274 im tired of repeating myself to them
[10:19] <gnomefreak> i got 5 or so replies in email today
[10:19] <eagles0513875> gotta love that lol
[10:22] <gnomefreak> oh update. today in about 3 hours im logging off until friday the soonest. i have to fly to NY city for a family meeting (sounds stupid but is important) i already complained to my uncle about it but its about him retiring. flight leaves in closer to 10 hours but have things to do beofre i leave
[11:29]  * gnomefreak way too head of where i should be this morning :(
[11:30] <gnomefreak> he has a bot greet him when he joins a channel or due to op status but nice either way :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 631+ emails and i just checked them maybe 30 minutes ago
[11:48] <gnomefreak> we should really replace default email from evo to tb
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i know gnome app wins over all
[12:08] <asac> gnomefreak: you said you dont fly anymore at somepoint
[12:08] <asac> did health improve?
[12:08] <asac> or just no long distance flights?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> asac: i have no choice uncle sent out the tickets and i cant drive and get there in time
[12:10] <gnomefreak> unless i have to i try to avoid all flying now
[12:10] <gnomefreak> filing bug #2 on grub2
[12:10] <asac> gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[12:10] <asac> all seamonkey builds are there
[12:11] <asac> can you verify them?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> asac: i know they need to hit universe though
[12:11] <asac> if not all. at least a few
[12:11] <gnomefreak> asac: ive been testing it since i built it
[12:11] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. we can send them out quickly. but someone should confirm that they work on lets say hardy ;)
[12:11] <asac> gnomefreak: did you test hardy and jaunty?
[12:11] <asac> those two would be great
[12:11] <gnomefreak> jaunty and karmic
[12:11] <asac> we could skip intrepid
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: can you setup a hardy chroot?
[12:12] <asac> install seamonkey from archive.. test that it works
[12:12] <asac> and upgrade to ppa and test that it works?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> i dont have a hardy install atm
[12:12] <asac> i will then get it rolled today
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: debootstrap
[12:12] <asac> ;()
[12:12] <asac> debootstrap hardy /tmp/hardy
[12:12] <asac> ;)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> asac: i have PPA enabled seamonkey: Installed: 1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[12:13] <asac> yes
[12:13] <asac> but thats karmic
[12:13] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah i know :) i just havent set up my chroots yet
[12:13] <asac> ok
[12:13] <asac> i will see if i can find someone else
[12:13] <gnomefreak> and yes all builds are there
[12:14] <asac> gnomefreak: the lightning update was just for karmic, right?
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: ok so dont work on hardy ... rather work on seamonkey 1.1.18 now
[12:15] <asac> next week tbird .23 will get out
[12:15] <asac> so i guess they already tagged sm too
[12:15] <asac> if not, just go ahead and do nothing
[12:15] <gnomefreak> asac: thats all i built and tested for (lightning/subird)
[12:15] <asac> ok
[12:15] <asac> orig is in your ppa right?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> asac: yep
[12:19] <gnomefreak> asac: i have to wait for 1.1.18 release before i can do anything with it, do you have a date on the release
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: tbird is thu
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: didnt they tag it already?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent gotten anything that said it was tagged. where would i find it?
[12:24] <asac> yeah ... they didnt tag it
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:25] <asac> gnomefreak: on a mozilla cvs checkout you can do cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK
[12:25] <asac> to see all the tags
[12:25] <gnomefreak> i asked for hardy testers on bug.
[12:25] <asac> cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK | pastebinit
[12:25] <asac> cvs status: CVS password file /home/asac/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file
[12:25] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f14756115
[12:25] <asac> gnomefreak: i have davmor in #ubuntu-testing ... he will test it on hardy too now
[12:25] <asac> after lunch
[12:26] <gnomefreak> asac: ok thanks
[12:27] <gnomefreak> im getting errors with cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK
[12:28] <gnomefreak> CVSROOT environment variable is not set for some damn reason. it should use default
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to do that on a cvs checkout
[12:37] <asac> it wont work on a tarball
[12:37] <asac> as we strip the .cvs dir
[12:37] <asac> err CVS/ dir ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: oh i have to check it out first right?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: how would i check out just that branch?
[12:43] <asac> cvs -d $PSERVER (get that from the net) co mozilla/client.mk
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ok think i got it. checking status command
[12:51] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks that worked
[13:06] <gnomefreak> ok thats all for me just one more round of updates and im gone. i will have laptop with me to check email
[13:33] <asac> fta: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/164-ubuntu-network-manager-team-offers-daily-builds-for-trunk-aka-0.8-now.html
[13:44] <asac> e-jat: can you code python or something?
[13:44] <asac> ;)
[13:44] <asac> (i assume i already asked that)
[13:52] <e-jat> asac: a bit .. ;0
[13:52] <e-jat> i didnt realise u already ask me :)
[13:53] <asac> e-jat: its about the translation export to mozilla tree structure ;)
[13:53]  * e-jat thinking wanna add the NM trunk or maintain with the stable one..
[13:53] <e-jat> asac: owh ok ..
[13:54] <e-jat> asac: what can i help u?
[13:54] <asac> e-jat: if you are using karmic the trunk isnt much riskier ;)
[13:54] <asac> for jaunty it should be ok, but i dont know yet ... have to wait for initial feedback
[13:55] <asac> e-jat: i think i know the algorithm now ... just need someone to implement it ;)
[13:55] <e-jat> asac: maybe i can give a hand ..
[13:56] <e-jat> if u say so ... adding it to source list now .. :)
[13:56] <asac> e-jat: should be ok ... just dont clean your apt cache so you can downgrade in worst case ;)
[13:57] <e-jat> asac: ouch ..
[13:57] <e-jat> i always clean my cache :(
[13:57] <asac> hehe
[13:57] <asac> e-jat: run apt-get install --reinstall network-manager libnm-util1 libnm-glib0 modemmanager before adding the ppa
[13:58] <asac> in that way they get redownloaded and should be in cache again
[13:58] <e-jat> erk ..
[13:58] <asac> if not it doent mtter
[13:58] <asac> ;)
[13:58] <e-jat> i already add it ..
[13:58] <asac> e-jat: are you karmic user?
[13:58] <e-jat> asac: yups
[13:58] <e-jat> im karmic user
[13:58] <asac> then there is not much of a risk
[13:58] <asac> you already run trunk ... just not the latest daily ;)
[13:58] <asac> and there is more fixed on trunk atm
[13:59] <e-jat> ic ..
[13:59] <e-jat> so how can i help for the translation ?
[14:00] <asac> e-jat: ok. so in the end you will have a script to produce LANG.xpi files from the launchpad exports. so it makes sense to start with that stage i think
[14:00] <asac> e-jat: we dont have your language yet in the lang packs ... so i just give you some other language .xpi for now
[14:00] <asac> let me check ;)
[14:01] <e-jat> asac: ok ..
[14:03] <e-jat> e.g MALAY.xpi ?
[14:05] <asac> http://people.canonical.com/~asac/po2xpi/
[14:05] <asac> e-jat: yes. we will get MALAY.xpi soonish ;)
[14:05] <asac> for now i packed you pseudo .pxi for ffox + xul pt-BR there
[14:06] <e-jat> c00l .. i will let the malay translation team not this news :)
[14:06] <e-jat> know*
[14:06] <asac> e-jat: i enabled devmode now ... so next langpack update will enable all translations in karmic
[14:06] <e-jat> ok
[14:07] <asac> anyway. let me write down some initial instructions on the algorithm ... as i think it would work
[14:07] <e-jat> yeah .. thats better .. at least i have a guideline to follow ..
[14:08] <e-jat> asac: brb .. just upgrade the dist-upgrade NM .. reboot for a while ..
[14:14] <ejat> asac: im back ..
[14:15] <ejat> cool .. NM rock my broadband :)
[14:17] <ejat> !ping asac
[14:22] <asac> ejat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Translations/ExportUpstreamFormat
[14:22] <asac> ejat: yeah we fixed broadband finally again ;)
[14:24] <asac> ejat: ok i added info on the testfiles too
[14:24] <asac> i think there are plenty of things not clear ;)
[14:24] <asac> but we can work through it step by step ;)
[14:24] <ejat> ok .. thanks for the wiki ..
[14:24] <ejat> 1`st i need to share with the team 1st .. its better go by groups :)
[14:24] <asac> the test files are for mozilla 1.9 branch so you can start to get the mozilla trunk CVS tree as we need the full upstream checkout
[14:25] <asac> ejat: well. i dont think anyone can implement this without direct feedback from me
[14:25] <asac> if you can get more in here that would be helpful yeah
[14:25] <asac> especially if someone likes scripting
[14:26] <ejat> yeah .. i will ..
[14:28] <asac> ejat: but in the end one person probably needs to implement it ... if its not you then get someone else please ,)
[14:31] <ejat> asac: ill try my best ..
[14:32] <asac> great
[14:32] <ejat> so what i need to do is to follow the BR example right?
[14:34] <ejat> we also plan to have the Mozilla week here ... :)
[14:35] <asac> ejat: yes. i tried to outline the algorithm ... the example files are the Br ones
[14:35] <asac> the idea is to write a script with the arguments as in the wiki
[14:36] <ejat> ic ..
[14:52] <asac> ejat: we are copied firefox 3.5/xulrunner 1.9.1 template now
[14:52] <asac> then we will import upstream xpis
[14:52] <asac> and copy over all the other translations from firefox 3.0
[14:52] <asac> so you will get your translations there too
[14:52] <asac> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xulrunner-1.9.1
[14:52] <asac> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/firefox-3.5
[14:53] <asac> will take a bit until templates are imported and the copying has happaned (most likely 1-2 days)
[14:53] <asac> ejat: have you tried the instructions for how to test your translations=?
[14:53] <asac> you should make yourself familiar with that if you want to fix the translations next week ;)
[14:53] <ejat> not yet ...
[14:54] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Testing_your_translation
[14:54] <asac> those are the instructions on how to manually do what we do automatically
[14:54] <asac> once we have the xpi2upstream script we should check how we can make the overall process easier
[14:55] <ejat> ok .. thanks a lot for all the brief ..
[14:55] <ejat> n info ..
[14:57] <asac> ejat: no problem. once we have xpi2upstream you should be able to run the upstream team easily. lets get there soon ;)
[14:57] <asac> ejat: your translations will show up on next run though ;)
[14:58] <asac> i will ping you with a ppa where we will stage them for the first run
[14:58] <fta2> hi
[14:58] <asac> hey
[14:58] <asac> fta2: i tried to give you some propaganda ;) ... hope that doesnt trigger bunch of folks coming here and asking you to run their dailies ;)
[14:59] <fta2> did anyone complain about chromium x64?
[14:59] <asac> nope ;)
[14:59] <fta2> asac, where?
[14:59] <asac> i will test that tomorrow when i am back ;)
[14:59] <asac> fta2: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/164-ubuntu-network-manager-team-offers-daily-builds-for-trunk-aka-0.8-now.html
[14:59] <ejat> nice propaganda :)
[15:04] <fta2> asac, can't connect
[15:07] <asac> fta2: must be a local problem ;)
[15:07] <asac> even planet can connect to my side
[15:07] <asac> site
[15:07] <asac> http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[15:07] <asac> scroll down two entries
[15:10] <fta2> nice
[15:20] <asac> fta2: nm bot sends out a separarte mail for NM dailies ... does that mean its a different job? can we run them in the morning? e.g. most nm stuff lands in the eveining
[15:21] <fta2> it was a manual run, but it could be distinct, if you prefer
[15:21] <fta2> 8am ?
[15:23] <asac> fta2: 6am UTC? yeah. thats nice time ;)
[15:23] <asac> i think 7am would be golden shot
[15:24] <fta2> 7am my time it is
[15:25] <mac_v> asac: i think you are right , when you said a few days ago , people just rant! without knowing what > https://bugs.launchpad.net/null/+bug/387444/comments/7
[15:25] <asac> fta2: 7am our time is fine too ;)
[15:29] <asac> yeah
[15:40] <sadik123> see..i  have loaded ubuntu 9.04 amd desktp...with ekiga 3.2.0 as defualt which dosent have autoanswer mode....
[15:41] <sadik123> how to enable it
[15:43] <sadik123> see..i  have loaded ubuntu 9.04 amd desktp...with ekiga 3.2.0 as defualt which dosent have autoanswer mode....how to ena ble it...or  kindly advise me how to load other sipclient which has auto-answer mode in ubuntu 9.04
[15:44] <asac> sadik123: thats a #ubuntu question
[15:44] <asac> not mozilla related
[15:44] <sadik123> ok...
[15:44] <sadik123> asac:  how to diable the title bar in mozilla in ubuntu 9.04
[15:45] <asac> sadik123: you had that question in mind before i said this is for mozilla related things?
[15:45] <sadik123> yes
[15:45] <asac> sadik123: what is the title bar?
[15:46] <asac> in view -> toolbars you can disable the location and the bookmarks bar
[15:46] <sadik123> title bar which will display as ubuntu-mozilla firefox in the top
[15:46] <asac> thats the window decoration
[15:46] <asac> you cannot disable it
[15:46] <asac> you can go to full screen mode with f11
[15:47] <asac> that will make it disappear and ffox taking full title bar
[15:47] <asac> err full screen ;)
[15:47] <sadik123> yes...but once again if we press f11..it comes
[15:48] <sadik123> asac: i need to disbale it using gnome or about:config
[15:50] <asac> you cannot disable the window decoration without losing the ability to move windows
[15:50] <asac> and so on
[16:13] <asac> fta2: now that the daily run is postponed could you manually kick it off _now_ ?
[16:13] <asac> since yesterdays upload had a bad version etc.
[16:59] <micahg> I just wanted to double check, if they have flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin installed, which should I have them remove?
[17:03] <micahg> asac: ^^^
[17:21] <micahg> asac: if we're not going to have the flash packages conflict, I think we have to have ubufox available for all firefox releases
[17:25] <asac> micahg: if they are on 64-bit they need flashplugin-installer
[17:26] <asac> otherwise they can deicide
[17:26] <micahg> ah, that's why I can't see the partner package :)
[17:26] <micahg> but, for FF3.5 on Jaunty, people can't choose which flash plugin
[17:26] <micahg> since there's no ubufox
[17:26] <micahg> *new issue
[17:33] <jcastro> fta: woo 64 bit!
[17:43] <micahg> jcastro: don't get too excited, it's nspluginwrapper
[17:44] <jcastro> mostly I was excited over the space savings
[18:22] <fta> jcastro, hi
[18:22] <fta> jcastro, space savings?
[18:28] <jcastro> fta: doesn't this drop the requirement for ia32libs?
[18:28] <fta> it does
[18:29] <fta> but it may still be needed for something else
[18:37] <jcastro> fta: in the future what do you think about having packages for popular webapps for chromium like we do for prism?
[18:38] <fta> jcastro, what do you mean? a prism based on chromium rather than on gecko??
[18:38] <jcastro> fta: so you know how you can launch "chromium-browser --app=http://launchpad.net"
[18:38] <jcastro> it's basically the same thing as prism
[18:39] <fta> yes
[18:40] <fta> jcastro, well, i'd like to have chromium in the repo 1st
[18:40] <jcastro> yeah I was just thinking outloud
[18:41] <jcastro> how would it go in the archive? They're not really making chromium releases afaict
[18:41] <fta> they have their channels, somehow
[18:42] <jcastro> yeah I just have a hard time following what branch goes with what channel
[18:42] <jcastro> but if you know how it works then that's good enough, heh
[18:46] <fta> asac, all umd stuff rejected, still over quota :(
[19:01] <asac> fta: hmm. didnt know we got rejected once
[19:02] <asac> do you remember the question id i opened ;)?
[19:04] <asac> ok prodded
[19:04] <asac> fta: can you kick off a NM daily now that we have more build cycles ;) ... just so i know that everything is now fine?
[19:04] <fta> just did it, ~5 min ago
[19:04] <asac> ah great
[19:05]  * asac checks mail
[19:05]  * asac notes that i didnt make it quiet yet
[19:06] <asac> nice ... all spinning: https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk
[19:06] <asac> let me check if git clone --quiet does the right thing
[19:07] <asac> hmm. thats very quiet ;)
[19:07] <fta> hm; the logs are not quiet at all
[19:08] <asac> 20:05  * asac notes that i didnt make it quiet yet
[19:08] <fta> oh
[19:10] <asac>  tar --exclude=.git -cvzf
[19:10] <asac> i guess the v is the problem
[19:23] <asac> jdstrand: can you please publish  the seamonkey bits from -security PPA?
[19:23] <asac> i finally got someone to confirm that hardy is good so all should be fine
[19:24] <jdstrand> asac: sure
[19:24] <asac> thx
[19:34] <jdstrand> asac: done
[19:34] <asac> nice
[19:34] <asac> jdstrand: thu will be tbird .23 release
[19:34] <jdstrand> ok
[19:34] <asac> so probably in your evening as usual
[19:35] <asac> i guess we should do a just in time release to avoid a friday release
[19:35] <jdstrand> ok
[19:36] <asac> fta: quota bumped according to our soyuz friends
[19:45] <fta> asac, yep, i poked #lp
[19:45] <fta> good
[20:00] <asac> fta: tarball creation now less verbose
[20:02] <fta> thx
[20:03] <asac> hmmm lpia fails somehow
[20:32] <pace_t_zulu> fta, asac, y'all around?
[20:51] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: what's up?
[20:52] <pace_t_zulu> i was going to ask if chromium has any chance of getting into main
[20:52] <micahg> ah
[21:38] <asac> pace_t_zulu: its not even in the archive yet
[21:38] <dtchen> fta: any (better) luck with pulse in the ~ubuntu-audio-dev ppa?
[21:39] <pace_t_zulu> asac: thanks
[21:39] <fta> dtchen, i didn't know such ppa even existed
[21:39] <fta> pace_t_zulu: what good would it do?
[21:42] <pace_t_zulu> fta: just wondering when it would be mature enough
[21:43] <pace_t_zulu> foolish question
[21:43] <fta> it's not even feature complete
[21:43] <asac> one cycle in archive universe would be minimum i guess... also we need to understand security procedures etc.
[21:48] <fta> dtchen, i see udev in that ppa, is that wise?
[21:49] <dtchen> fta: it's just an ACL race fix that the pulse developer recommended but keybuk rejected
[21:49] <dtchen> fta: that fix is already in upstream udev; keybuk apparently would rather a new udev version be rolled than backport that fix
[21:50] <dtchen> fta: it's unlikely to help you if you don't use surround sound profiles
[21:57] <fta> dtchen, well, i can give the ppa a try, do i need to reboot? (i hate rebooting)
[21:57] <dtchen> fta: no, just "killall pulseaudio"
[21:57] <dtchen> (afterward)
[21:58] <dtchen> assuming you don't have anything custom-created by hand in ~/.pulse, PA will just respawn automatically
[22:06] <fta> i hate scrollkeeper updates
[22:06] <asac> ++
[22:06] <fta> zillions of xml namespace errors
[22:06] <fta> and it takes ages
[22:06] <asac> needs a rewrite
[22:06] <asac> i am sure
[22:06] <asac> same for bzr-builddeb
[22:06] <asac> ;)
[22:06] <fta> lol
[22:07] <asac> i thought about forking bzr-builddeb as bzr-builddeb0
[22:07] <asac> i guess builddeb2 would offend folks as it might claim its newer/better
[22:07] <asac> but its intended to be just stable ;)
[22:07] <asac> and not changing ;)
[22:07] <dtchen> yeah, scrollkeeper is a DoS. i tend to walk away and get coffee.
[22:08] <fta> asac, something changed in bzr-builddeb recently?
[22:09] <asac> something changed and broke stuff .... but not intentionally - bug 415572
[22:14] <fta> dtchen, it's far worse
[22:15] <fta> dtchen, always openarena, after a few seconds, it gets jerky, ~1 sec /w sound, ~1 sec /wo
[22:16] <fta> just 10 players in the room
[22:17] <fta> with more, it's jerky for a minute or 2, then the sound is completely gone, and it's impossible to exit the game (/wo killing it)
[22:18] <dtchen> fta: and this is using the pulse sdl backend, correct?
[22:19] <fta> libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio
[22:23] <dtchen> fta: any difference if you use only the alsa sdl backend?
[22:23] <dtchen> also, is this with the default config, i.e., glitch-free enabled, etc.?
[22:24] <BUGabundo> hey guys
[22:24] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/255955/
[22:25] <BUGabundo> asac: bad news for you: NM and MM still fail to work
[22:25] <BUGabundo> :(
[22:25] <BUGabundo> fta: chromium 64 bits on debian crashes a log :)
[22:43] <fta> BUGabundo, well, rebuild it, or file bugs
[22:44] <fta> dtchen, same with libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[22:48] <dtchen> fta: ok, thanks