[00:12] links in liferea are almost invisible with a dark theme [00:19] redenting "fta: next !ubuntu daily build of #chromium for x64 will be native, no more ia32-libs craziness (starting with 4.0.203.0)" [00:21] BUGabundo, if you want but it's not yet in the ppa [00:21] i'm doing a final build locally [00:21] no need [00:21] I'll pull it tomorrow [00:21] I wonder if I can make it work on debian [00:21] what version should I use? [00:21] karmic? hardy? [00:22] no idea [00:28] asac: so the new TB3 also has xulrunner integrated vs separate? [00:34] micahg: yes. unfortunately libxulification isnt complete yet [00:35] BUGabundo: 3g should be fixed in dailies [00:35] ok, also, what are plans for TB3 in karmic? [00:35] BUGabundo: but i guess i already said that ;) [00:35] micahg: no idea. [00:35] asac I started mine *before* upgradeing :) [00:35] really [00:35] k [00:35] it complained about a lib depency [00:35] and then upgraded [00:35] ok, when is a good time to tlak about that? [00:36] asac I didn't catch you saying that before [00:36] micahg: i am not sure if we should put it in or even make it the defalt ;) [00:36] now they are talking RC1 around karmic release time [00:36] tbird moves real slow [00:36] they're kicking it into "high" gear [00:36] would be great, but they kicked it a few times alrewady ;) [00:36] but yes. i think they are kind of forced to do that [00:37] they're dropping most of the remaining missing features and focusing on a stable release with what it has [00:37] and planning an update soon theraeafter with the rest [00:38] if release will be in Nov/Dev, maybe we can do a tb2/tb3 in karmic with tb the defau;t? [00:38] micahg: we dont have a default in karmic [00:38] its just in main. not on CD [00:38] ah, ok [00:39] so, can we throw tb3 in univers? [00:39] default is probably defined through the "thunderbird" meta package (which isnt a meta package in tbird 2 fwiw) [00:39] i am not sure [00:39] i mean. we probably could [00:40] but i am not sure we want to do that [00:40] I guess it depends how fast TB will start moving [00:40] they're talking agile [00:40] talk is cheap ;) [00:40] right, which is why I'll keep watching :) [00:41] i think we are quite well prepared to act swiftly if we have reason to believe that it should go in [00:41] cool [00:41] maybe we should call for more extensive testing somewhere [00:41] * micahg is afraid to test [00:42] * micahg has 11 mail accounts in TB [00:42] heh [00:42] imap? or pop? [00:42] IMAP [00:42] I won't leave my kmail [00:42] then its not really dangerous ... backup your complete .mozilla-thunderbird directory and use tbird 3 ;) [00:42] ah [00:43] ok, so no worry of deleting one message deleting all the mail on my IMAP server? [00:43] jejeeje [00:43] i would hope not [00:43] does thay happen ? [00:43] lolol [00:43] ok, BTW, I think I know what the problem was earlier [00:43] of course you never know ;) ... but that applies all the time [00:43] my company just switched from mbox to maildir [00:43] did it go away? [00:43] I think TB didn't handle the switch weel [00:43] well kmail used to corrupt them on arrival [00:44] or mess stuff on server do to antispam filtering [00:44] micahg: and then got a huge memory leak? or are you talking about something else? [00:44] so it *can* happen [00:44] current TB usage is normal [00:44] yes, memory leak [00:44] kmail is crack [00:44] dont use that [00:44] ;) [00:44] I think it happened when TB started to d/l all the headers from the new maildir files [00:44] I love it [00:44] micahg: why would tbird get problems due to that? [00:44] micahg: did the imap structure change completely? [00:44] best email client after mutt [00:45] folder structure was the same, but maildir instead of mbox [00:45] idk why that would do anything [00:45] should I file a bug? [00:45] I can't prove that was it, but that was the only weird thing [00:45] maybe just a server restart and dangling connections or so? [00:45] micahg: if you know how to reproduce then yes [00:45] otherwise probably no ;) [00:45] ok [00:46] asac did you look up on that bug I filed on FF 3.7? [00:46] no ;) [00:46] its q regressiong from early 3.5 [00:46] or maibe even 3.0 [00:46] dont see a bug there yet [00:46] where was it filed? [00:48] uptream [00:49] let me do a quick test on todays daily [00:49] asac I know you don't like it [00:49] but can we rename 3.6? [00:50] it messes my gnome do to have two minefield [00:53] damn, system sqlite is still broken [00:53] ok, i will drop it for now, i want to update the ppa [00:55] asac: if there's a bug for something upstream, and I have the same problem, should I file a bug in our tracker as well? [00:57] grrr src/third_party/sqlite/preload-cache.patch [00:57] micahg: as you wish. i would think we have enough bugs. otoh it might help to catch dupes [00:58] * micahg found it in our tracker bug 127960 :) [00:58] Launchpad bug 127960 in firefox-3.0 "Unresponsive script dialog usability problems" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127960 [00:58] but this has 2 issues [00:58] the second issue is mine [00:59] %7D/components/dhMedialinkProbe.js:52 [00:59] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [00:59] oh great [00:59] new FF chrash [00:59] micahg: so link it with the upstream bug ;) [00:59] asac is this going to be like this up to release? [01:00] ok, what about the other issue [01:00] about not warning users [01:01] since we can't link 2 upstream bugs to one report right now [01:02] i only see one problem: wrong button order / image [01:02] so it's either no sqlite3Preload, or no system sqlite [01:02] the other is a request to warn users they may lose their work [01:05] i dont know. for me that sounds related. "improve the dialog" ;) [01:05] asac fta: I still get the fullscreen bug with todays daily :( [01:05] ok [01:05] will do [01:05] if they track it independently upstream we can open a new bug or add two upstream bugs ... i think that works [01:06] asac: something like this won't be fixed in 3.0 at this point, right? [01:08] bed time [01:09] bye guys [01:09] also, is it bad for me to request wanted on things in bugzilla? [01:27] micahg: depends ... we should look at them in detail first [01:27] if its important etc. [01:27] anyone i am out ... talk to you tomorrow [01:28] bye [01:28] asac which Q are you answering? [01:57] asac, http://codereview.chromium.org/173033 (see the last comment) === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [09:17] does anyone else have profiles for firefox-3.1 and 3.2 in .mozilla? [10:06] gnomefreak: could be that those are old [10:07] asac: yeah thought about that after asking sorry [10:09] morning asac [10:13] oh crap what is the exception called for new packages :( [10:13] ah FFE [10:19] hehe [10:19] yeah [10:19] eagles0513875: hi [10:19] as do mee a favor and comment on bug 356274 im tired of repeating myself to them [10:19] Launchpad bug 356274 in seamonkey "[MASTER] Please update seamonkey to latest 1.1.17" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356274 [10:19] i got 5 or so replies in email today [10:19] gotta love that lol [10:22] oh update. today in about 3 hours im logging off until friday the soonest. i have to fly to NY city for a family meeting (sounds stupid but is important) i already complained to my uncle about it but its about him retiring. flight leaves in closer to 10 hours but have things to do beofre i leave [11:29] * gnomefreak way too head of where i should be this morning :( [11:30] he has a bot greet him when he joins a channel or due to op status but nice either way :) [11:36] 631+ emails and i just checked them maybe 30 minutes ago [11:48] we should really replace default email from evo to tb [11:49] i know gnome app wins over all [12:08] gnomefreak: you said you dont fly anymore at somepoint [12:08] did health improve? [12:08] or just no long distance flights? [12:09] asac: i have no choice uncle sent out the tickets and i cant drive and get there in time [12:10] unless i have to i try to avoid all flying now [12:10] filing bug #2 on grub2 [12:10] Error: Launchpad bug 2 could not be found [12:10] gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa [12:10] all seamonkey builds are there [12:11] can you verify them? [12:11] asac: i know they need to hit universe though [12:11] if not all. at least a few [12:11] asac: ive been testing it since i built it [12:11] gnomefreak: yes. we can send them out quickly. but someone should confirm that they work on lets say hardy ;) [12:11] gnomefreak: did you test hardy and jaunty? [12:11] those two would be great [12:11] jaunty and karmic [12:11] we could skip intrepid [12:12] gnomefreak: can you setup a hardy chroot? [12:12] install seamonkey from archive.. test that it works [12:12] and upgrade to ppa and test that it works? [12:12] i dont have a hardy install atm [12:12] i will then get it rolled today [12:12] gnomefreak: debootstrap [12:12] ;() [12:12] debootstrap hardy /tmp/hardy [12:12] ;) [12:12] asac: i have PPA enabled seamonkey: Installed: 1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [12:13] yes [12:13] but thats karmic [12:13] asac: yeah i know :) i just havent set up my chroots yet [12:13] ok [12:13] i will see if i can find someone else [12:13] and yes all builds are there [12:14] gnomefreak: the lightning update was just for karmic, right? [12:15] gnomefreak: ok so dont work on hardy ... rather work on seamonkey 1.1.18 now [12:15] next week tbird .23 will get out [12:15] so i guess they already tagged sm too [12:15] if not, just go ahead and do nothing [12:15] asac: thats all i built and tested for (lightning/subird) [12:15] ok [12:15] orig is in your ppa right? [12:15] asac: yep [12:19] asac: i have to wait for 1.1.18 release before i can do anything with it, do you have a date on the release [12:23] gnomefreak: tbird is thu [12:23] gnomefreak: didnt they tag it already? [12:24] asac: i havent gotten anything that said it was tagged. where would i find it? [12:24] yeah ... they didnt tag it [12:25] ah [12:25] gnomefreak: on a mozilla cvs checkout you can do cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK [12:25] to see all the tags [12:25] i asked for hardy testers on bug. [12:25] cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK | pastebinit [12:25] cvs status: CVS password file /home/asac/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file [12:25] http://pastebin.com/f14756115 [12:25] gnomefreak: i have davmor in #ubuntu-testing ... he will test it on hardy too now [12:25] after lunch [12:26] asac: ok thanks [12:27] im getting errors with cvs status -v client.mk | grep SEAMONK [12:28] CVSROOT environment variable is not set for some damn reason. it should use default [12:37] gnomefreak: you have to do that on a cvs checkout [12:37] it wont work on a tarball [12:37] as we strip the .cvs dir [12:37] err CVS/ dir ;) [12:40] asac: oh i have to check it out first right? [12:41] asac: how would i check out just that branch? [12:43] cvs -d $PSERVER (get that from the net) co mozilla/client.mk [12:51] ok think i got it. checking status command [12:51] asac: thanks that worked [13:06] ok thats all for me just one more round of updates and im gone. i will have laptop with me to check email [13:33] fta: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/164-ubuntu-network-manager-team-offers-daily-builds-for-trunk-aka-0.8-now.html [13:44] e-jat: can you code python or something? [13:44] ;) [13:44] (i assume i already asked that) [13:52] asac: a bit .. ;0 [13:52] i didnt realise u already ask me :) [13:53] e-jat: its about the translation export to mozilla tree structure ;) [13:53] * e-jat thinking wanna add the NM trunk or maintain with the stable one.. [13:53] asac: owh ok .. [13:54] asac: what can i help u? [13:54] e-jat: if you are using karmic the trunk isnt much riskier ;) [13:54] for jaunty it should be ok, but i dont know yet ... have to wait for initial feedback [13:55] e-jat: i think i know the algorithm now ... just need someone to implement it ;) [13:55] asac: maybe i can give a hand .. [13:56] if u say so ... adding it to source list now .. :) [13:56] e-jat: should be ok ... just dont clean your apt cache so you can downgrade in worst case ;) [13:57] asac: ouch .. [13:57] i always clean my cache :( [13:57] hehe [13:57] e-jat: run apt-get install --reinstall network-manager libnm-util1 libnm-glib0 modemmanager before adding the ppa [13:58] in that way they get redownloaded and should be in cache again [13:58] erk .. [13:58] if not it doent mtter [13:58] ;) [13:58] i already add it .. [13:58] e-jat: are you karmic user? [13:58] asac: yups [13:58] im karmic user [13:58] then there is not much of a risk [13:58] you already run trunk ... just not the latest daily ;) [13:58] and there is more fixed on trunk atm [13:59] ic .. [13:59] so how can i help for the translation ? [14:00] e-jat: ok. so in the end you will have a script to produce LANG.xpi files from the launchpad exports. so it makes sense to start with that stage i think [14:00] e-jat: we dont have your language yet in the lang packs ... so i just give you some other language .xpi for now [14:00] let me check ;) [14:01] asac: ok .. [14:03] e.g MALAY.xpi ? [14:05] http://people.canonical.com/~asac/po2xpi/ [14:05] e-jat: yes. we will get MALAY.xpi soonish ;) [14:05] for now i packed you pseudo .pxi for ffox + xul pt-BR there [14:06] c00l .. i will let the malay translation team not this news :) [14:06] know* [14:06] e-jat: i enabled devmode now ... so next langpack update will enable all translations in karmic [14:06] ok [14:07] anyway. let me write down some initial instructions on the algorithm ... as i think it would work [14:07] yeah .. thats better .. at least i have a guideline to follow .. [14:08] asac: brb .. just upgrade the dist-upgrade NM .. reboot for a while .. [14:14] asac: im back .. [14:15] cool .. NM rock my broadband :) === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [14:17] !ping asac [14:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about ping asac [14:22] ejat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Translations/ExportUpstreamFormat [14:22] ejat: yeah we fixed broadband finally again ;) [14:24] ejat: ok i added info on the testfiles too [14:24] i think there are plenty of things not clear ;) [14:24] but we can work through it step by step ;) [14:24] ok .. thanks for the wiki .. [14:24] 1`st i need to share with the team 1st .. its better go by groups :) [14:24] the test files are for mozilla 1.9 branch so you can start to get the mozilla trunk CVS tree as we need the full upstream checkout [14:25] ejat: well. i dont think anyone can implement this without direct feedback from me [14:25] if you can get more in here that would be helpful yeah [14:25] especially if someone likes scripting [14:26] yeah .. i will .. [14:28] ejat: but in the end one person probably needs to implement it ... if its not you then get someone else please ,) [14:31] asac: ill try my best .. [14:32] great [14:32] so what i need to do is to follow the BR example right? [14:34] we also plan to have the Mozilla week here ... :) [14:35] ejat: yes. i tried to outline the algorithm ... the example files are the Br ones [14:35] the idea is to write a script with the arguments as in the wiki [14:36] ic .. [14:52] ejat: we are copied firefox 3.5/xulrunner 1.9.1 template now [14:52] then we will import upstream xpis [14:52] and copy over all the other translations from firefox 3.0 [14:52] so you will get your translations there too [14:52] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xulrunner-1.9.1 [14:52] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/firefox-3.5 [14:53] will take a bit until templates are imported and the copying has happaned (most likely 1-2 days) [14:53] ejat: have you tried the instructions for how to test your translations=? [14:53] you should make yourself familiar with that if you want to fix the translations next week ;) [14:53] not yet ... [14:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Testing_your_translation [14:54] those are the instructions on how to manually do what we do automatically [14:54] once we have the xpi2upstream script we should check how we can make the overall process easier [14:55] ok .. thanks a lot for all the brief .. [14:55] n info .. [14:57] ejat: no problem. once we have xpi2upstream you should be able to run the upstream team easily. lets get there soon ;) [14:57] ejat: your translations will show up on next run though ;) [14:58] i will ping you with a ppa where we will stage them for the first run [14:58] hi [14:58] hey [14:58] fta2: i tried to give you some propaganda ;) ... hope that doesnt trigger bunch of folks coming here and asking you to run their dailies ;) [14:59] did anyone complain about chromium x64? [14:59] nope ;) [14:59] asac, where? [14:59] i will test that tomorrow when i am back ;) [14:59] fta2: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/164-ubuntu-network-manager-team-offers-daily-builds-for-trunk-aka-0.8-now.html [14:59] nice propaganda :) [15:04] asac, can't connect [15:07] fta2: must be a local problem ;) [15:07] even planet can connect to my side [15:07] site [15:07] http://planet.ubuntu.com/ [15:07] scroll down two entries [15:10] nice [15:20] fta2: nm bot sends out a separarte mail for NM dailies ... does that mean its a different job? can we run them in the morning? e.g. most nm stuff lands in the eveining [15:21] it was a manual run, but it could be distinct, if you prefer [15:21] 8am ? [15:23] fta2: 6am UTC? yeah. thats nice time ;) [15:23] i think 7am would be golden shot [15:24] 7am my time it is [15:25] asac: i think you are right , when you said a few days ago , people just rant! without knowing what > https://bugs.launchpad.net/null/+bug/387444/comments/7 [15:25] Ubuntu bug 387444 in ubufox "Needs To Suggest Installing Flash When You Go To Youtube" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:25] fta2: 7am our time is fine too ;) [15:29] yeah [15:40] see..i have loaded ubuntu 9.04 amd desktp...with ekiga 3.2.0 as defualt which dosent have autoanswer mode.... [15:41] how to enable it [15:43] see..i have loaded ubuntu 9.04 amd desktp...with ekiga 3.2.0 as defualt which dosent have autoanswer mode....how to ena ble it...or kindly advise me how to load other sipclient which has auto-answer mode in ubuntu 9.04 [15:44] sadik123: thats a #ubuntu question [15:44] not mozilla related [15:44] ok... [15:44] asac: how to diable the title bar in mozilla in ubuntu 9.04 [15:45] sadik123: you had that question in mind before i said this is for mozilla related things? [15:45] yes [15:45] sadik123: what is the title bar? [15:46] in view -> toolbars you can disable the location and the bookmarks bar [15:46] title bar which will display as ubuntu-mozilla firefox in the top [15:46] thats the window decoration [15:46] you cannot disable it [15:46] you can go to full screen mode with f11 [15:47] that will make it disappear and ffox taking full title bar [15:47] err full screen ;) [15:47] yes...but once again if we press f11..it comes [15:48] asac: i need to disbale it using gnome or about:config [15:50] you cannot disable the window decoration without losing the ability to move windows [15:50] and so on === jtv is now known as jtv-night [16:13] fta2: now that the daily run is postponed could you manually kick it off _now_ ? [16:13] since yesterdays upload had a bad version etc. [16:59] I just wanted to double check, if they have flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin installed, which should I have them remove? [17:03] asac: ^^^ [17:21] asac: if we're not going to have the flash packages conflict, I think we have to have ubufox available for all firefox releases [17:25] micahg: if they are on 64-bit they need flashplugin-installer [17:26] otherwise they can deicide [17:26] ah, that's why I can't see the partner package :) [17:26] but, for FF3.5 on Jaunty, people can't choose which flash plugin [17:26] since there's no ubufox [17:26] *new issue [17:33] fta: woo 64 bit! [17:43] jcastro: don't get too excited, it's nspluginwrapper [17:44] mostly I was excited over the space savings [18:22] jcastro, hi [18:22] jcastro, space savings? [18:28] fta: doesn't this drop the requirement for ia32libs? [18:28] it does [18:29] but it may still be needed for something else [18:37] fta: in the future what do you think about having packages for popular webapps for chromium like we do for prism? [18:38] jcastro, what do you mean? a prism based on chromium rather than on gecko?? [18:38] fta: so you know how you can launch "chromium-browser --app=http://launchpad.net" [18:38] it's basically the same thing as prism [18:39] yes [18:40] jcastro, well, i'd like to have chromium in the repo 1st [18:40] yeah I was just thinking outloud [18:41] how would it go in the archive? They're not really making chromium releases afaict [18:41] they have their channels, somehow [18:42] yeah I just have a hard time following what branch goes with what channel [18:42] but if you know how it works then that's good enough, heh [18:46] asac, all umd stuff rejected, still over quota :( [19:01] fta: hmm. didnt know we got rejected once [19:02] do you remember the question id i opened ;)? [19:04] ok prodded [19:04] fta: can you kick off a NM daily now that we have more build cycles ;) ... just so i know that everything is now fine? [19:04] just did it, ~5 min ago [19:04] ah great [19:05] * asac checks mail [19:05] * asac notes that i didnt make it quiet yet [19:06] nice ... all spinning: https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk [19:06] let me check if git clone --quiet does the right thing [19:07] hmm. thats very quiet ;) [19:07] hm; the logs are not quiet at all [19:08] 20:05 * asac notes that i didnt make it quiet yet [19:08] oh [19:10] tar --exclude=.git -cvzf [19:10] i guess the v is the problem === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [19:23]