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RiddellJontheEchidna: you have to install pkgbinarymangler for that akonadi  issue to arrise00:47
JontheEchidnaaah, right00:47
JontheEchidnaso I'd assume it's a binarymangler bug? It worked in the past and the whole symlink situation has been there for a while00:50
Riddellit may be dh_strip00:51
JontheEchidnatrue00:51
Riddellor even "strip"00:51
Riddellstrip --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note --strip-unneeded debian/akonadi-server/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi   fails00:54
Riddelldunno why but it doesn't like the file being owned by root01:00
RiddellI'm not sure why we do that hard linking anyway instead of just a copy01:00
Riddellit would need to do a hard link in the postinst for it to actually remain  a hard link01:03
RiddellJontheEchidna: uploaded01:13
JontheEchidnaRiddell: if you're still around, would you mind sponsoring bug 416077?02:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 416077 in kpackagekit "Please update KPackageKit in 9.10 from 0.4.1.1 to 0.4.2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41607702:50
JontheEchidnaonce the archive reorg comes around, I can stop bugging people for uploads :D02:51
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ghostcubehi11:27
ghostcubedoes anybody know who is managing launchpad i have a problem11:30
ghostcubewith my accounts i haver created silly as i am 2 accounts with the same username11:31
Riddell#launchpad11:31
ghostcubethx11:34
davmor3Riddell: once installed I get the config button appearing over ublog even though I've configured it11:53
Riddelldavmor3: ok, report a bug and I'll look at it at some point11:56
ghostcubethx Riddell worked fine11:56
davmor3Riddell: Ah hang on there is a bunch of update the live fs must be behind again11:58
Riddellseele: do you have an opinion on how the kpackagekit "install" and "uninstall" buttons should work?11:58
Riddellfoomatic-db: Recommends: cjet but it is not installable11:59
Riddellnaaching printing breaks again11:59
davmor3Riddell: yeap livefs manifest reads 20090817 so there might of been a fix already in.  I'll wait to file till the iso is up-to-date11:59
davmor2Riddell: is the behaviour for the notification applet to only notify once from an application.  Using bonjour I pinged myself and that appeared in a popup. however when I continued to type that didn't appear even though the chat window still didn't have focus.  The icon for kopete is spining.  Is this correct behaviour?12:07
Riddelldavmor2: yes I think that's the current kopete behavious12:09
Riddellbehaviour12:09
Riddellhopefully message indicator patches will appear to make it use the message indicator12:09
davmor2Riddell: okay that's alright then.  Should quassel also use the m-i?12:10
Riddellnot yet12:10
Riddellonly konversation for now12:10
RiddellI've patches for kmail too but they're waiting on a libindicate update12:11
davmor3Riddell: okay I might have a look at that after.  Shutting down kopete with bonjour on has once again closed pidgin on jaunty.  That could get annoying :)12:12
Riddellpidgin crashed?12:13
davmor3Riddell: just checking if it crashed now but it looks like it just got shut12:16
Riddelliz gnome bug :)12:17
davmor2I'll try it with empathy on another system and see if it has the same issue12:21
LureRiddell: remind me: do we preffer to use upstream tarball as-is (no recompress/change pathanmes) or do we care about warnings like this:12:52
Riddelland that, ladies and gentlemen, is why pastebins are a good thing :)12:53
a|wen-dtuhaha, true :)12:55
RiddellLure: pastebin this time?12:58
LureRiddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/256308/13:00
* Lure needs some IRC proxy somewhere :-(13:01
RiddellLure: use upstream tar as is13:07
Riddellthere's no need to change the top level directory name in a tar the tools can handle that fine13:07
* ryanakca hopes that Kobby's upstream is only on vacation and hasn't vanished... no commits to Kobby for over two weeks... :/13:07
LureRiddell: thanks13:08
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smarter_hmm, I just launched Arora as usual and a notification asked me to install some extra packages(libtunepimp5-mp3, libk3b6-extracodecs and flash), is that really intended?13:45
jjessearen't those the restricted-extras13:46
Riddellsmarter_: yes, most people want flash13:46
smarter_I'm okay with flash, but the two others are Amarok stuff13:46
smarter_and K3B13:46
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Riddelloh it just suggests all the kubuntu-restricted-extras packages you don't have installed13:47
smarterhere, it can make the user think that these packages are actually used by Arora13:47
Riddellchances are if you can put up with flash you can put up with mp313:47
smarterand it crashed before installing anything too13:47
Riddelluh oh13:47
* smarter gets the traceback from the crash file13:48
jjesseit worked fine for me last night13:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: kpackagekit uploaded13:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: if you're fed up waiting for archive re-org you could always apply for main hint hint13:48
smarterhttp://pastebin.com/m159c7ab813:50
Riddellwibble, no idea what's going on there13:50
Riddellsmarter: please report on launchpad to install-package13:51
smarterpython-apt code is confusing13:51
smarterokay13:51
JontheEchidnaSweetness, KDE4 integration for OOo hit14:33
RiddellJontheEchidna: oh oh oh?14:34
Riddellwhere?14:34
JontheEchidnakarmic proper, install openoffice.org-kde14:34
rgreeningyay.14:35
rgreeningwe need to ensure openoffice.org-kde gets installed if ooo is installed then by default.14:35
rgreeningkpk still busted14:36
Riddellrgreening: how so?14:36
rgreeningRiddell: try updating and then run kpk and update.. some error about _dict missing in aptBackend.py14:37
Riddelloh glatzor's fault then, not kpackagekit itself :)14:38
rgreeningpossibly14:39
JontheEchidnathere's already a bug with about 3 dupes against packagekit14:39
rgreeningooo is ssssooooo purrty now!!!!!!!!14:39
ghostcube openoffice.org-kde oO14:39
rgreening:)14:39
ghostcubeeven for jaunty ??14:39
ghostcubewait ... i have this installed already14:40
Riddellooh this OO thing really works14:40
ghostcube:D14:40
Riddellyay for shtylman!14:40
rgreeningooo loads quicker on my netbook than my more powerful Laptop14:40
rgreeninghahah14:40
* JontheEchidna has a bunch of stuff what needs upgrading, so he hasn't seen the sexy yet14:40
rgreeningoh, and yuriy too Riddell for the icon porting14:41
rgreeningkicka$$ work :)14:41
Riddellmmm, pretty icons14:42
JontheEchidnathe window sorta doesn't repaint when a file dialog is open14:43
Riddellthe tab widget doesn't seem to be oxygen14:43
rgreeninghmm.... File/Open doesn't default to a sensible default dir... and does some weird stuff14:44
rgreeninghehe but look pretty14:44
ryanakcaAnybody know if one can get a list of TODO translations for KDE apps without having to sort through https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+lang/fr ?14:45
ScottKRiddell: kgraphviewer is just about to the last item on the boost1.35 transition.  Any luck getting it to build?14:47
RiddellScottK: I don't recall, did I try?14:49
Riddelloh yues it had some gcc issue didn't it14:50
JontheEchidnanone of the right-click stuff in the file dialogs work :(14:53
JontheEchidnatrash, delete, properties, etc14:53
smarterRiddell: I think the install-package thing for amarok/k3b/arora misses some sort of "don't ask me again" option15:06
smarterAs I don't use Flash from the repo but instead use the beta 64bits version which I manually installed, I get asked about installing flash at every restart of Arora.15:07
Riddellsmarter: yes I've been meaning to do that15:09
Riddellideally arora would be more intelligent and ask only when it needed flash15:10
smarteryes, that'd be better15:10
smarterit already has a plugin(ClickToFlash) to detect flash and load it only when the user clicks on a button which replaces the flash object15:11
smarternot sure if that can be extended to popup a window15:11
smarterI'm not sure what's the best way to present the "don't ask me again" option, maybe add an "Ask me later" button ?15:12
RiddellScottK: kgraphviewer uploaded15:17
seeleRiddell: the icon clicky things like in the plasma widgets manager?15:20
Riddellseele: currently it's a down arror which gets coloured when you click on it15:21
seelehmm15:21
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Riddellseele: it's changed since jaunty and I see the item on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo is marked Done so maybe problem solved15:23
Riddellalthough I think it needs a tool tip15:23
ScottKRiddell: Great.  Thanks.15:24
ScottKRiddell: It looks like openoffice.org-kde landed in Universe.  Any chance you could promote it?15:25
Riddellalready done, waiting on publisher15:26
ScottKKewl15:27
ScottKRiddell: Next on my list is a new snapshot of knetworkmanager.  Thoughts on that?15:30
RiddellScottK: yes that would be good, wstephenson was asking for daily builds recently to stop him getting out of date bug reports15:31
yuriythanks rgreening15:43
* yuriy should really update a few more and commit the stuff sitting on my desktop15:43
* rgreening agrees15:44
JontheEchidnaanybody working on uncomplicating the amarok packaging yet?16:02
JontheEchidnaRiddell: mind if I do a sync request for libtag-extras? Debian's seems to be superior to ours16:12
JontheEchidnaI don't really see anything different that we would want to give debian, it's mostly just doing things such as package descriptions differently16:14
JontheEchidnaoh, except the watch file16:15
JontheEchidnait's broken anyway, no loss16:16
RiddellJontheEchidna: go for it16:29
davmor2Riddell: arora is having ssl issues with planet.ubuntu.com17:08
Riddelldavmor2: no problems here17:10
davmor2might be a first run thing it didn't happen the second time17:11
JontheEchidnaoops, I notice a mistake in my akonadi merge17:27
JontheEchidnait's pulling in a whole mysql server again17:28
* JontheEchidna adds the difference to KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES where it belonged17:29
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/256432/17:32
Tonio_hi there ;)17:34
Tonio_any idea why do some python apps works and some other fail loading QtCore ?17:34
Tonio_with exactly the same code, and the code being in the same path ?17:35
RiddellTonio_: nope, example?17:38
RiddellJontheEchidna: thanks, that was next on my todo list  :)17:38
Tonio_Riddell: update-notifier-kde17:38
RiddellTonio_: works for me17:39
Tonio_Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/153657517:40
Tonio_Riddell: I run a fresh new install from this WE17:40
Tonio_Riddell: /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.6/PyQt4/QtCore.so is on the disk17:41
Tonio_mffffffff17:41
Tonio_Riddell: you probably have a different configuration than the default (or lett's say a new install...)17:42
Tonio_Riddell: see bug 40741817:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 407418 in software-properties "software-properties-kde does not start, (QtCore Error)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40741817:42
Tonio_Riddell: I'm not the only one complaining afaics17:42
Tonio_Riddell: oh I'm running amd64....17:44
RiddellTonio_: what's in  /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyQt4/ ?17:44
Tonio_Riddell: __init__.py  __init__.pyc  uic17:44
Tonio_Riddell: that's all I have17:45
Tonio_Riddell: link missing possibly ?17:45
RiddellTonio_: try removing that directory17:45
Tonio_Riddell: works17:50
Tonio_Riddell: python-kde4, python-qt4-common do provide this folder17:52
Tonio_Riddell: should we fix the packages then ?17:52
Tonio_Riddell: the weird thing is that it only affects amd64 arch...17:52
Riddellyes  it  should be fixed17:55
RiddellI  doubt it only affects  amd6417:55
Riddellwhy  does  my  keyboard keep putting in  double spaces?17:55
ScottKPressing it twice?17:55
ScottK;-)17:55
ScottKI fixed the build-deps on kgraphviewer so it's building now.17:56
Tonio_Riddell: hum what wold be the good fix for this python thing ? simply drop the folder from the package ?17:58
Tonio_Riddell: hum python-kde4 the guilty afaics18:13
ScottKTonio_: I think Debian was recently working that.  You might look if they have a fix.18:18
Tonio_ScottK: yep18:19
Tonio_ScottK: I was never able to understand how python install files...18:19
Tonio_ScottK: looks kdebindings the builty18:19
Tonio_guilty18:19
ScottKIt's a bit complex due to the way we try to support multiple python versions.18:19
Tonio_yup18:22
Tonio_Riddell: kubuntu_06_pykdeuic_install_path.diff18:23
Tonio_Riddell: looks like the problem is w<ith your patch ;)18:23
Tonio_Riddell: in fact the problem is due to the fact you mention a patch in your last kdebindings upload, but it ain't there :)18:30
Tonio_Riddell: missing bzr add probably18:31
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macoooo! there's gonna be a Qt workshop in VA next month19:16
seelemaco: sponsored by trolltech or someone else?20:03
spstarrhmm, #kubuntu-ca is empty :(20:04
macoummm...20:05
macoICS20:05
macoits called Qt Quickstart20:05
spstarrryanakca: where are you in .ca?20:15
ryanakcaspstarr: Kingston, Ontario.20:17
spstarreast of me :)20:17
spstarryes20:17
spstarryou told me yesterday heh20:17
Gonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/41661420:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 416614 in kopete "Kopete doen't start, throws a "Bus Error" in command line" [Undecided,New]20:51
GonNow I'm ussing pidgin :(20:51
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JontheEchidnaSo the Debian doods are using the libmysqld-pic package for a mysqld.la compiled with -fpic. (I'm merging with Debian)22:34
JontheEchidnaThe only thing is that libmysqld-pic is in universe22:34
JontheEchidnawhich is a bit weird since the rest of the source package is in main22:35
RiddellI can move it then22:37
JontheEchidnaok, cool22:37
JontheEchidnathe merge just needs a bit of polishing and it'll be done too22:38
Riddellmoved to main, will be there in an hour or so22:39
JontheEchidnalooks like packagekit needs a rebuild for the new python-apt23:04
Riddellryanakca: peter from dooble is poking me again, did you get anywhere with packaging?23:14
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Riddellryanakca: I told him you'd do it this weekend, I get the impression he'll be very disappointed if you don't :)23:18
Riddellpolicykit-kde is history, now merged into kdebase-workspace23:36
JontheEchidnacool23:37
Riddellglatzor: incase you care,  policykit-kde is history, now merged into kdebase-workspace23:43
glatzorRiddell, hello. sorry, but what is the kdebase-workspace?23:45
glatzorRiddell, dantti mentioned that polciykit-1 support will land soon23:45
glatzorRiddell, do you have got any plans about this?23:45
Riddellglatzor: one of the main KDE packages, KDE 4.3 includes policykit-kde as part of its release23:46
glatzorgreat23:46
Riddellglatzor: yes I see him and people from fedora are looking into it23:46
glatzorit is also used by other native kde applications?23:46
Riddellkpackagekit and k3b I think are the only ones that use it23:46
Riddellglatzor: there's some code in branch for kde polkit 1.0, do you have 1.0 packages somewhere I can test it against?23:49
glatzornot yet. I was focusing on fixing bugs in the 0.4.x branch23:49
Riddelldantti was saying he couldn't get polkit 1.0 working on debian and this was blocking him from working on it23:50
glatzorRiddell, perhaps I will nag you tomorrow about an upload sponsorship23:50
Riddellaren't you a core-dev yet? :)23:50
glatzorI am not even a motu :)23:51
* DAskreech laughs23:51
DAskreechI love FOSS23:51
DAskreechWhen being a master of the universe is considered lower rung23:52
yuriyRiddell: that SoC stuff for policykit kde is just trunk/4.4 right?23:52
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Riddellyuriy: what soc stuff?23:52
yuriykde authorization library23:55
yuriyprebuilt buttons and kcm functions for policy kit23:55
shtylmanRiddell: yea...never got around to the tab :(23:59

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