[00:47] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: you have to install pkgbinarymangler for that akonadi  issue to arrise
[00:47] <JontheEchidna> aah, right
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> so I'd assume it's a binarymangler bug? It worked in the past and the whole symlink situation has been there for a while
[00:51] <Riddell> it may be dh_strip
[00:51] <JontheEchidna> true
[00:51] <Riddell> or even "strip"
[00:54] <Riddell> strip --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note --strip-unneeded debian/akonadi-server/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi   fails
[01:00] <Riddell> dunno why but it doesn't like the file being owned by root
[01:00] <Riddell> I'm not sure why we do that hard linking anyway instead of just a copy
[01:03] <Riddell> it would need to do a hard link in the postinst for it to actually remain  a hard link
[01:13] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: uploaded
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: if you're still around, would you mind sponsoring bug 416077?
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> once the archive reorg comes around, I can stop bugging people for uploads :D
[11:27] <ghostcube> hi
[11:30] <ghostcube> does anybody know who is managing launchpad i have a problem
[11:31] <ghostcube> with my accounts i haver created silly as i am 2 accounts with the same username
[11:31] <Riddell> #launchpad
[11:34] <ghostcube> thx
[11:53] <davmor3> Riddell: once installed I get the config button appearing over ublog even though I've configured it
[11:56] <Riddell> davmor3: ok, report a bug and I'll look at it at some point
[11:56] <ghostcube> thx Riddell worked fine
[11:58] <davmor3> Riddell: Ah hang on there is a bunch of update the live fs must be behind again
[11:58] <Riddell> seele: do you have an opinion on how the kpackagekit "install" and "uninstall" buttons should work?
[11:59] <Riddell> foomatic-db: Recommends: cjet but it is not installable
[11:59] <Riddell> naaching printing breaks again
[11:59] <davmor3> Riddell: yeap livefs manifest reads 20090817 so there might of been a fix already in.  I'll wait to file till the iso is up-to-date
[12:07] <davmor2> Riddell: is the behaviour for the notification applet to only notify once from an application.  Using bonjour I pinged myself and that appeared in a popup. however when I continued to type that didn't appear even though the chat window still didn't have focus.  The icon for kopete is spining.  Is this correct behaviour?
[12:09] <Riddell> davmor2: yes I think that's the current kopete behavious
[12:09] <Riddell> behaviour
[12:09] <Riddell> hopefully message indicator patches will appear to make it use the message indicator
[12:10] <davmor2> Riddell: okay that's alright then.  Should quassel also use the m-i?
[12:10] <Riddell> not yet
[12:10] <Riddell> only konversation for now
[12:11] <Riddell> I've patches for kmail too but they're waiting on a libindicate update
[12:12] <davmor3> Riddell: okay I might have a look at that after.  Shutting down kopete with bonjour on has once again closed pidgin on jaunty.  That could get annoying :)
[12:13] <Riddell> pidgin crashed?
[12:16] <davmor3> Riddell: just checking if it crashed now but it looks like it just got shut
[12:17] <Riddell> iz gnome bug :)
[12:21] <davmor2> I'll try it with empathy on another system and see if it has the same issue
[12:52] <Lure> Riddell: remind me: do we preffer to use upstream tarball as-is (no recompress/change pathanmes) or do we care about warnings like this:
[12:53] <Riddell> and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why pastebins are a good thing :)
[12:55] <a|wen-dtu> haha, true :)
[12:58] <Riddell> Lure: pastebin this time?
[13:00] <Lure> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/256308/
[13:01]  * Lure needs some IRC proxy somewhere :-(
[13:07] <Riddell> Lure: use upstream tar as is
[13:07] <Riddell> there's no need to change the top level directory name in a tar the tools can handle that fine
[13:07]  * ryanakca hopes that Kobby's upstream is only on vacation and hasn't vanished... no commits to Kobby for over two weeks... :/
[13:08] <Lure> Riddell: thanks
[13:45] <smarter_> hmm, I just launched Arora as usual and a notification asked me to install some extra packages(libtunepimp5-mp3, libk3b6-extracodecs and flash), is that really intended?
[13:46] <jjesse> aren't those the restricted-extras
[13:46] <Riddell> smarter_: yes, most people want flash
[13:46] <smarter_> I'm okay with flash, but the two others are Amarok stuff
[13:46] <smarter_> and K3B
[13:47] <Riddell> oh it just suggests all the kubuntu-restricted-extras packages you don't have installed
[13:47] <smarter> here, it can make the user think that these packages are actually used by Arora
[13:47] <Riddell> chances are if you can put up with flash you can put up with mp3
[13:47] <smarter> and it crashed before installing anything too
[13:47] <Riddell> uh oh
[13:48]  * smarter gets the traceback from the crash file
[13:48] <jjesse> it worked fine for me last night
[13:48] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: kpackagekit uploaded
[13:48] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: if you're fed up waiting for archive re-org you could always apply for main hint hint
[13:50] <smarter> http://pastebin.com/m159c7ab8
[13:50] <Riddell> wibble, no idea what's going on there
[13:51] <Riddell> smarter: please report on launchpad to install-package
[13:51] <smarter> python-apt code is confusing
[13:51] <smarter> okay
[14:33] <JontheEchidna> Sweetness, KDE4 integration for OOo hit
[14:34] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: oh oh oh?
[14:34] <Riddell> where?
[14:34] <JontheEchidna> karmic proper, install openoffice.org-kde
[14:35] <rgreening> yay.
[14:35] <rgreening> we need to ensure openoffice.org-kde gets installed if ooo is installed then by default.
[14:36] <rgreening> kpk still busted
[14:36] <Riddell> rgreening: how so?
[14:37] <rgreening> Riddell: try updating and then run kpk and update.. some error about _dict missing in aptBackend.py
[14:38] <Riddell> oh glatzor's fault then, not kpackagekit itself :)
[14:39] <rgreening> possibly
[14:39] <JontheEchidna> there's already a bug with about 3 dupes against packagekit
[14:39] <rgreening> ooo is ssssooooo purrty now!!!!!!!!
[14:39] <ghostcube>  openoffice.org-kde oO
[14:39] <rgreening> :)
[14:39] <ghostcube> even for jaunty ??
[14:40] <ghostcube> wait ... i have this installed already
[14:40] <Riddell> ooh this OO thing really works
[14:40] <ghostcube> :D
[14:40] <Riddell> yay for shtylman!
[14:40] <rgreening> ooo loads quicker on my netbook than my more powerful Laptop
[14:40] <rgreening> hahah
[14:40]  * JontheEchidna has a bunch of stuff what needs upgrading, so he hasn't seen the sexy yet
[14:41] <rgreening> oh, and yuriy too Riddell for the icon porting
[14:41] <rgreening> kicka$$ work :)
[14:42] <Riddell> mmm, pretty icons
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> the window sorta doesn't repaint when a file dialog is open
[14:43] <Riddell> the tab widget doesn't seem to be oxygen
[14:44] <rgreening> hmm.... File/Open doesn't default to a sensible default dir... and does some weird stuff
[14:44] <rgreening> hehe but look pretty
[14:45] <ryanakca> Anybody know if one can get a list of TODO translations for KDE apps without having to sort through https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+lang/fr ?
[14:47] <ScottK> Riddell: kgraphviewer is just about to the last item on the boost1.35 transition.  Any luck getting it to build?
[14:49] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't recall, did I try?
[14:50] <Riddell> oh yues it had some gcc issue didn't it
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> none of the right-click stuff in the file dialogs work :(
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> trash, delete, properties, etc
[15:06] <smarter> Riddell: I think the install-package thing for amarok/k3b/arora misses some sort of "don't ask me again" option
[15:07] <smarter> As I don't use Flash from the repo but instead use the beta 64bits version which I manually installed, I get asked about installing flash at every restart of Arora.
[15:09] <Riddell> smarter: yes I've been meaning to do that
[15:10] <Riddell> ideally arora would be more intelligent and ask only when it needed flash
[15:10] <smarter> yes, that'd be better
[15:11] <smarter> it already has a plugin(ClickToFlash) to detect flash and load it only when the user clicks on a button which replaces the flash object
[15:11] <smarter> not sure if that can be extended to popup a window
[15:12] <smarter> I'm not sure what's the best way to present the "don't ask me again" option, maybe add an "Ask me later" button ?
[15:17] <Riddell> ScottK: kgraphviewer uploaded
[15:20] <seele> Riddell: the icon clicky things like in the plasma widgets manager?
[15:21] <Riddell> seele: currently it's a down arror which gets coloured when you click on it
[15:21] <seele> hmm
[15:23] <Riddell> seele: it's changed since jaunty and I see the item on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo is marked Done so maybe problem solved
[15:23] <Riddell> although I think it needs a tool tip
[15:24] <ScottK> Riddell: Great.  Thanks.
[15:25] <ScottK> Riddell: It looks like openoffice.org-kde landed in Universe.  Any chance you could promote it?
[15:26] <Riddell> already done, waiting on publisher
[15:27] <ScottK> Kewl
[15:30] <ScottK> Riddell: Next on my list is a new snapshot of knetworkmanager.  Thoughts on that?
[15:31] <Riddell> ScottK: yes that would be good, wstephenson was asking for daily builds recently to stop him getting out of date bug reports
[15:43] <yuriy> thanks rgreening
[15:43]  * yuriy should really update a few more and commit the stuff sitting on my desktop
[15:44]  * rgreening agrees
[16:02] <JontheEchidna> anybody working on uncomplicating the amarok packaging yet?
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: mind if I do a sync request for libtag-extras? Debian's seems to be superior to ours
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> I don't really see anything different that we would want to give debian, it's mostly just doing things such as package descriptions differently
[16:15] <JontheEchidna> oh, except the watch file
[16:16] <JontheEchidna> it's broken anyway, no loss
[16:29] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: go for it
[17:08] <davmor2> Riddell: arora is having ssl issues with planet.ubuntu.com
[17:10] <Riddell> davmor2: no problems here
[17:11] <davmor2> might be a first run thing it didn't happen the second time
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> oops, I notice a mistake in my akonadi merge
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> it's pulling in a whole mysql server again
[17:29]  * JontheEchidna adds the difference to KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES where it belonged
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/256432/
[17:34] <Tonio_> hi there ;)
[17:34] <Tonio_> any idea why do some python apps works and some other fail loading QtCore ?
[17:35] <Tonio_> with exactly the same code, and the code being in the same path ?
[17:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: nope, example?
[17:38] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: thanks, that was next on my todo list  :)
[17:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: update-notifier-kde
[17:39] <Riddell> Tonio_: works for me
[17:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/1536575
[17:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: I run a fresh new install from this WE
[17:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.6/PyQt4/QtCore.so is on the disk
[17:41] <Tonio_> mffffffff
[17:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: you probably have a different configuration than the default (or lett's say a new install...)
[17:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: see bug 407418
[17:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm not the only one complaining afaics
[17:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: oh I'm running amd64....
[17:44] <Riddell> Tonio_: what's in  /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyQt4/ ?
[17:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: __init__.py  __init__.pyc  uic
[17:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: that's all I have
[17:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: link missing possibly ?
[17:45] <Riddell> Tonio_: try removing that directory
[17:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: works
[17:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: python-kde4, python-qt4-common do provide this folder
[17:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: should we fix the packages then ?
[17:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: the weird thing is that it only affects amd64 arch...
[17:55] <Riddell> yes  it  should be fixed
[17:55] <Riddell> I  doubt it only affects  amd64
[17:55] <Riddell> why  does  my  keyboard keep putting in  double spaces?
[17:55] <ScottK> Pressing it twice?
[17:55] <ScottK> ;-)
[17:56] <ScottK> I fixed the build-deps on kgraphviewer so it's building now.
[17:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum what wold be the good fix for this python thing ? simply drop the folder from the package ?
[18:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum python-kde4 the guilty afaics
[18:18] <ScottK> Tonio_: I think Debian was recently working that.  You might look if they have a fix.
[18:19] <Tonio_> ScottK: yep
[18:19] <Tonio_> ScottK: I was never able to understand how python install files...
[18:19] <Tonio_> ScottK: looks kdebindings the builty
[18:19] <Tonio_> guilty
[18:19] <ScottK> It's a bit complex due to the way we try to support multiple python versions.
[18:22] <Tonio_> yup
[18:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: kubuntu_06_pykdeuic_install_path.diff
[18:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: looks like the problem is w<ith your patch ;)
[18:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: in fact the problem is due to the fact you mention a patch in your last kdebindings upload, but it ain't there :)
[18:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: missing bzr add probably
[19:16] <maco> ooo! there's gonna be a Qt workshop in VA next month
[20:03] <seele> maco: sponsored by trolltech or someone else?
[20:04] <spstarr> hmm, #kubuntu-ca is empty :(
[20:05] <maco> ummm...
[20:05] <maco> ICS
[20:05] <maco> its called Qt Quickstart
[20:15] <spstarr> ryanakca: where are you in .ca?
[20:17] <ryanakca> spstarr: Kingston, Ontario.
[20:17] <spstarr> east of me :)
[20:17] <spstarr> yes
[20:17] <spstarr> you told me yesterday heh
[20:51] <Gon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/416614
[20:51] <Gon> Now I'm ussing pidgin :(
[22:34] <JontheEchidna> So the Debian doods are using the libmysqld-pic package for a mysqld.la compiled with -fpic. (I'm merging with Debian)
[22:34] <JontheEchidna> The only thing is that libmysqld-pic is in universe
[22:35] <JontheEchidna> which is a bit weird since the rest of the source package is in main
[22:37] <Riddell> I can move it then
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> ok, cool
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> the merge just needs a bit of polishing and it'll be done too
[22:39] <Riddell> moved to main, will be there in an hour or so
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> looks like packagekit needs a rebuild for the new python-apt
[23:14] <Riddell> ryanakca: peter from dooble is poking me again, did you get anywhere with packaging?
[23:18] <Riddell> ryanakca: I told him you'd do it this weekend, I get the impression he'll be very disappointed if you don't :)
[23:36] <Riddell> policykit-kde is history, now merged into kdebase-workspace
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> cool
[23:43] <Riddell> glatzor: incase you care,  policykit-kde is history, now merged into kdebase-workspace
[23:45] <glatzor> Riddell, hello. sorry, but what is the kdebase-workspace?
[23:45] <glatzor> Riddell, dantti mentioned that polciykit-1 support will land soon
[23:45] <glatzor> Riddell, do you have got any plans about this?
[23:46] <Riddell> glatzor: one of the main KDE packages, KDE 4.3 includes policykit-kde as part of its release
[23:46] <glatzor> great
[23:46] <Riddell> glatzor: yes I see him and people from fedora are looking into it
[23:46] <glatzor> it is also used by other native kde applications?
[23:46] <Riddell> kpackagekit and k3b I think are the only ones that use it
[23:49] <Riddell> glatzor: there's some code in branch for kde polkit 1.0, do you have 1.0 packages somewhere I can test it against?
[23:49] <glatzor> not yet. I was focusing on fixing bugs in the 0.4.x branch
[23:50] <Riddell> dantti was saying he couldn't get polkit 1.0 working on debian and this was blocking him from working on it
[23:50] <glatzor> Riddell, perhaps I will nag you tomorrow about an upload sponsorship
[23:50] <Riddell> aren't you a core-dev yet? :)
[23:51] <glatzor> I am not even a motu :)
[23:51]  * DAskreech laughs
[23:51] <DAskreech> I love FOSS
[23:52] <DAskreech> When being a master of the universe is considered lower rung
[23:52] <yuriy> Riddell: that SoC stuff for policykit kde is just trunk/4.4 right?
[23:52] <Riddell> yuriy: what soc stuff?
[23:55] <yuriy> kde authorization library
[23:55] <yuriy> prebuilt buttons and kcm functions for policy kit
[23:59] <shtylman> Riddell: yea...never got around to the tab :(