[00:01] Evening, can anyone tell me how to use KDE/Dolphin's SVN integration? [00:03] !svn [00:03] svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/ [00:03] BluesKaj: That's not what I'm talking about. I heard that Dolphin has SVN support/integration, was wondering if someone could point that out to me [00:03] I beleive svn is cli only [00:05] anyway BrianE m good luck with svn ... it's always been flaky for me , so i avoid it if possible [00:06] BluesKaj: I use SVN for team collaboration for the development projects I work on; it is NOT flaky. Right now I need to commit my latest work before going to bed, I just wanted to sample Dolphin's SVN integration; the command line is perfectly fine as a substitute [00:06] Was hoping someone could point me to it, but alas :( [00:07] maybe #svn can help [00:07] It's not an SVN question, it's a question of Dolphin / KDE, which is why I'm here =\ [00:08] really , seems like an svn question to me :) [00:09] maybe try #kde then? [00:09] Not really... I'm asking where to find Dolphin's SVN integration. You wouldn't go to #ftp to ask how to login to an FTP resource with Dolphin [00:09] kaddi: Will do [00:09] What is the deal with this kubuntu-docs error? [00:09] I just committed anyway, just wanna see how Dolphin handles it :-) [00:10] how would i install konversation 1.2 alpha [00:10] syntax: isn't konversation 1.2 alpha 4 default in jaunty? [00:11] no [00:11] 1.1 is [00:12] syntax: you can get it from the backports, but it would likely also update some of the other software you have installed. [00:13] see here for a list of software in the backports: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty-backports/allpackages [00:36] hello [00:37] ok, need some help here [00:37] !ask | sinclair [00:37] sinclair: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:37] I know :) was just formulating the question [00:37] ok [00:38] I have a m2ne sly mother [00:38] sli* [00:38] with 7.1 usb sound [00:38] the system sounds work [00:38] i mean the logon sound [00:39] but I cannot control volume and other alpications have no sound [00:39] the speake by the clock shows a red X [00:39] iseas? [00:39] omg Ideas? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [00:58] ok, it seems i have to go back to windows [00:59] "Linux is way better than Windows" my ass === zuz_ is now known as ZuzonLinux [01:01] sinclair: I like both equally to telly ou the truth [01:01] nm [01:01] think he's gone. [01:01] yeah [01:01] good (as they say) riddance [01:01] are there any good FLV players out there? [01:02] for kubuntu [01:02] i believe that vlc, mplayer and totem will play flv [01:03] mplayer never gave me any trouble with flv.... [01:03] i watched an flv file the other day on a jaunty install. not sure which player it used [01:04] but it played fine [01:05] thanks i didnt have it installed [01:05] ill get it now [01:05] mplayer that is [01:11] \ [01:11] i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit [01:12] ? [01:13] ? [01:13] ? [01:13] ? [01:13] swiftegz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:13] i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit.i need my screen resolution fixed on my hp dv6000 running ubuntu 9.04 64bit [01:14] any help [01:14] pleaase [01:18] when I click on the wastebin widget I get an error message "invalid adress trash:/" instead of dolphin opening the wastebin. Is that fixable? [01:18] kde 4.2.4 and jaunty [02:11] Good evening....I need a little help concerning my music database...Amarok seems to be completely unable to either play or find all of my music files...I was told by a friend that this was due to some issues with the character encoding, as my files where copied onto a linux drive before stuff like that became an issue... [02:13] Now he told me to use this script called convmv to convert the encoding to utf8, which I did, but it resulted just in amarok finally being able to find all files without crashing, but now it can't play any file at all.. [02:13] Has anyone here encountered equal problems? [02:14] Or could I have done something wrong whit that script? === joey_ is now known as CyD [02:47] <_genuser_> hey guys. [03:02] hi [03:02] i have problem [03:03] cannot enter my hdd [03:03] please help [03:04] lol, how is anyone supposed to help a "technician" that provides so little detail? [03:08] how am i wanna mount my partition [03:08] please help me man [03:17] hello [03:17] i need some rapid help [03:18] anyone can paste for me a fstab line which uses UUID? [03:18] i want it as reference [03:32] hello, i recently installed kubuntu, my laptop c omes with a dvd player and burner yet i am having trouble reading some vcd format dvd any help much appreciated === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [03:54] anyone here with 3g? === roger is now known as MrSmurfing [04:05] Can anyone help with an NFS problem? [04:19] hello. i have installed kmymoney on kubuntu jaunty, and the gui doesn't use the options i've set for KDE. how can i fix this? [04:23] hey guys, is there like a wiki entry on how to replace kwin with compiz in kde4/kubuntu? [04:25] hey does anyone else here use KATE? [04:25] navetz: me. [04:25] i want to know how to make the dirctory structure use a tree view. Does anyone know how to do that? [04:25] cabrey: just install compiz and set it for use in 'default applications' @ system settings [04:26] I saw the editor in mac does this and it looks like a great feature [04:26] navetz: you using the filebrowser plugin? [04:26] eMyller, won't that use gtk-window-decorator? [04:26] eMyller: I'm not sure :S I haven't configured it for a long time. Is this a seprate add on? [04:27] eMyller: I am using the filesystem broswer feature, but it doesn't have the option for tree view [04:27] navetz: it comes natively. [04:27] eMyller: it comes with detailed view or thumbnail view [04:27] yes, it does. :P [04:27] there are some icons above the files list. click on 'tree view' [04:27] eMyller: is there a way to get tree view [04:27] oh okay [04:27] thanks [04:28] navetz: found? [04:28] eMyller: err nope I only see detailed view and thumbnail view [04:29] eMyller: do you have something extra installed? [04:29] navetz: isn't the bar too small? you seeing a '»' after the icons? [04:30] navetz: yes, some plugins, but they have nothing to do it file system browser =P [04:30] eMyller: yes I see it but I don't see a tree view option :( [04:30] ok I'm using compiz now, but it is using metacity themes :( [04:31] navetz: isn't that hidden in the '»', due to overflow? [04:31] eMyller: nope I just expanded the window to be able to see it [04:31] Is there anyway to have the Task Bay only show the applications for the current desktop? [04:31] navetz: go to kate settings > file system browser settings > and check if this icon is enabled to your view [04:32] corigo: change its settings [04:32] eMyller: also after a quick search i see that kate has a plugin for it but its for version KDE 4.X [04:32] I check that [04:32] i'll look for a version in 3.5 [04:32] navetz: don't. kate for kde4 has it built in. [04:33] you just aren't finding it. [04:33] eMyller: I am using KDE 3.5 [04:33] this is probably why [04:33] lol [04:33] I don't see a setting for this [04:33] what dvd players come with a standard install === name is now known as Guest79591 [04:33] navetz: ah. you *really* should use kde4. =P [04:34] navetz: so go to download this plugin in kde apps site [04:34] what is the "best" dvd player [04:34] Guest79591: try vlc. [04:34] navetz: dragonplayer works fine [04:34] vlc gives lots of extra options. [04:35] k, thanks [04:35] corigo: right click an empty area on task bar and voilà [04:35] Guest79591: I second that VLC gives you the most extra functions and additional media support beyond just playing DVDs [04:35] +1 for vlc [04:35] eMyller: I'm lazy I'm still using hardy lol [04:35] wow. [04:36] eMyller: All that shows me is the same info when I click on the swirly bean... and the More Settings, doesn't help either [04:36] i can't imagine myself outdated for one second. [04:36] corigo: kde4? [04:36] 4.3 [04:36] eMyller: it just breaks to much every time I upgrade [04:37] corigo: is your taskbar full? every people with this doubt can't access its settings due to this possibility. [04:37] Navetz: Hardy is good. But Jaunty solved all my Intrepid issues... so no complaints [04:37] eMyller ... always [04:38] corigo:i'll probably upgrade soon [04:39] corigo: anyway, 1) unlock plasma widgets (if locked) 2) click that icon in the panel's corner, to access *the panel* settings; 3) right click the task manager widget (now static) and go to "Task Manager Settings" [04:40] you might find what you're wanting there. [04:42] Question ... is it possible to have a wallet auto open at login? For use with the network manager. [04:42] any themes out there that make the windows use less border space [04:43] Guest79591: check out www.kde-look.org ... you may find something there. [04:44] Guest79591: you can set it for any theme in system settings > appearance > windows [04:44] eMyller: As soon as I right click on the panel - the settings window disappears and clicking on the Panel Options - Panel Settings only reopens it. I don't see any other options available to me that would allow me to define it as only displaying the open apps from the active dekstop [04:45] corigo: you will *not* use the panel options [04:46] how can I recompile my kernel? [04:46] corigo: it's just a way to force widget's right click action [04:47] open panel settings > right click taskbar; panel settings will disappear, but a menu will open (the taskbar one); now just click task manager settings and a new dialog will open [04:47] Then I don't understand... maybe I am using the wrong terminology... my problem is that my panel is showing all open applications and I want it to only show the applications open in the active desktop... I thought that the primary panel was called the Task Bar, maybe I was wrong..., [04:49] because I don't see any "Task Manager" widget per se [04:51] what there's no apt-get for motd [04:51] heh [04:51] Ok, in Gnome, you can set it up so you don't need to type a password into the password manager to log into your wireless network. Is this possible in KDE? [04:53] this kate plugin is annoying! yarg [04:53] corigo: taskbar == task manager widget == the applet where you see a windows list in [04:55] eMyller: Ok, so the terminology is correct the task manager widget shows the windows list in the panel... but where is the widget itself so that I can right click on it? [04:56] corigo: are you seeing the window list? [05:01] If I have KDE3.5 and I install KATE for KDE4.0 what will happen? [05:04] navetz: a portal for a parallel world will open and you'll see things you've never seen before. [05:04] eMyller:sick ! [05:05] navetz: that means "i don't know." :P [05:06] gotcha [05:06] eMyller: In the panel, yes [05:06] navetz: It worked fine for me before I updated to 4 [05:07] corigo: okay i'm doing it [05:07] YEAH LINUX [05:07] corigo: so follow exactly these steps: [05:08] I think I'll upgrade to kde4.3 soon [05:09] 1) access panel options; 2) hover the windows list. you might notice that it's static, movable now. right click on it. 3) panel settings will disappear and a context menu will open. this menu is the task manager's one. go to "Task Manager Settings". [05:09] 4) in the dialog that will open, check "Only show tasks from the current desktop". done. [05:11] Hoo boy... you can lead a horse to water .... thanks, I've got it now... this interface is just way too cluttered with all the "other" settings options when I'm only expecting the one... [05:11] It keeps happening to me exactly the same every time, and I always miss the option I'm looking for... One of these days I'll adjust... === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [05:12] corigo: that's easy, you just couldn't access it before cuz the taskbar was full of windows. [05:13] you can access the same menu just by right clicking an *empty* area in the taskbar [05:13] or forcing the menu by accessing panel options, like you did now. [05:14] eMyller: Unless I close all applications (including my irc) the task bar is always full, because (at least in 4.3) the tabs always expand to fill the space. Even one app fills the bar [05:16] corigo: it doesn't happen here. [05:17] Anyone ever succesfully install KimPanel? [05:21] sorry I missed that... has anyone succesfully installed KimPanel? [05:23] corigo: its ok no one replied in the time you were absent. [05:27] man kate for kde4.0 is pretty awesome [05:27] I think i'm upgrading OS's this weekend [05:27] cant you go from hardy straight to jaunty? [05:27] navetz: sure [05:28] corigo: i;ll try it but hopfuly it doesn't fuck up my sound again :( [05:28] navetz: fool this is a family channel [05:28] !language [05:28] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [05:29] darthanubis: yo fool all children will grow up [05:29] well not all [05:29] but hopefully all [05:29] :) === djdarkman_clone is now known as djdarkman [05:49] navetz: are you using Pulse Audio? === TannerS is now known as TS === TS is now known as Guest15007 === Guest15007 is now known as BLU3Y3Z === BLU3Y3Z is now known as lacey === lacey is now known as Undecided [06:52] Hi all.I have Vista on my laptop and have installed Kubuntu 9.04 in the same partition.Now I want to remove it and free that space for Vista usage.How should I do that? [06:56] any comment? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [07:17] what app do you use for managing services like apache, postgresql, etc? [07:32] eMyller: on a remote server? [07:33] jussi01: no, my own box. i'm looking for a gui to manage services [07:33] !ebox | eMyller something like this? [07:33] eMyller something like this?: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [07:33] the service manager bundled into system settings doesn't show things like apache, couchdb, mysql, etc [07:34] eMyller: also, it is preferable that you dont use away/status nicks. [07:34] whats the name of the program in KDE that takes screenshots [07:34] myself: ksnapshot [07:34] thanks [07:35] jussi01: i know, i just handle clients that doesnt support away status. [07:35] is there a way to make it in terminal so i run a program after a certain number of seconds? like i typei n the command then the program runs in say 5 seconds [07:36] myself: you do now ksnapshot has a wait built into its gui? [07:36] myself: ksnapshot provide options like these. ;) [07:36] how do i do that [07:36] jussi01: thanks for pointing ebox :) [07:36] myself: open ksnapshot - and look [07:36] im trying to take a ksnapshot in gnome btw, because printscreen wont take a screenshot of a menu [07:36] oh i see [07:36] it has a delay, ty [07:37] :) [07:37] cool it worked, thank you [07:39] myself: You want it in terminal? "scrot -d 5 -c" [07:40] oh cool thank you [07:40] whats scrot? [07:43] !info scrot | myself [07:43] myself: scrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-8 (jaunty), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB [07:45] jussi01: i need just a simple thing where i can check/uncheck some service to be started in system startup [07:45] oh... [07:45] it's not actually a server admin, it's just a dev box [07:45] !bum | eMyller|busy [07:45] eMyller|busy: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [07:46] gonna see :) [07:47] none for kde, using qt? [07:48] ns register nitheesh nithi321** [07:48] nitheesh: oops :P [07:49] * leaf-sheep jot down something in his little notebook. === grinseka1ze is now known as grinsekatze [07:52] jussi01: that just fits perfectly, thanks :) [07:53] eMyller|busy: :) [07:53] cool ty [07:53] leaf-sheep :) === kb is now known as Guest75545 === root is now known as Guest82690 === Guest82690 is now known as fooobarqewr [08:47] hey guys i have a question: why in network management i can't see any wired networks? is there any way to fix it? [08:48] I just upgraded to Jaunty and am trying to figure out how to get a folder into the taskbar that has my favorite applications in there. is this a widgit thing? [08:50] how do i auto login kubuntu? [08:50] i mean kde [08:51] coreyman: did you look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34951 [08:51] yes [08:51] i am unable to get into login manager [08:52] coreyman: which version of (k)ubuntu === MarkieMark1_ is now known as MarkieMark1 [08:52] it is the ubuntu min install, and i installed kdm [08:52] newest versions of each [08:53] coreyman: 9.04 jaunty with kde 4.2? [08:53] after running kde 4.3 for so long , 4.2 seems like the stone ages [08:54] kde whatever is in the repository and yes 9.04 [08:54] coreyman: can you open your "system settings" [08:54] yes [08:54] coreyman: and under the "advanced" tab isnt there a icon for "Login manager" [08:54] there is but it just sits there and doesnt do anything [08:54] i think im missing a package [08:54] what is the login manager package? [08:55] oh wow, it actually did something when i clicked it that time, i had to put in my password >.> [08:55] coreyman: when i click on mine it asks for the admin password. i dont know what the package name is, sorry [08:56] hah [08:56] your ok now? [08:57] should be.... you ever use vnc? [08:58] i use vlc... does that count? what is vnc? [08:58] coreyman: if i have to ask, i probably dont use it. [08:58] virtual network computing [08:59] I link my laptop to my desktop to get 4 screens of view space. not sure if that is vnc or not. [08:59] but it feels like one huge screen. [08:59] heh [09:01] I really just finished an upgrade from 8.04 about 20 min ago. im missing my favorites folder in my task bar. any idea how to list a folder of application links in the task bar. [09:02] idk.. that stinks [09:02] is it a widget [09:02] yea its a widget [09:03] add folder view or quick access [09:03] coreyman: was that for me? i should be looking for a widget called IDK. [09:03] ussher sorry.. [09:03] I know most people apretiate a direct question, But i have now posted my issue for 2 days, and this is a community interest to fix, and still I get no replies. I would really like someone to follow me intoo the depths of the microphone issue that arrived with the 9.04. I have gotten quite far, but nobody seems interested to assist on this matter. I would really like to start from the beginning and explain the problem as we get closer to the end. But [09:03] bother if I have to type all this for no replies. so if you wanna try, ill try to explain how far i gotten. [09:03] why do I gt this while bootiing [ 18.268980] agpgart-ati 0000:00:00.0: unsupported Ati chipset [1002/5a33]) [09:06] ussher you find it? [09:06] coreyman: is there a way to turn the folders into folders like in the 'K' menu [09:07] coreyman: I got the quickaccess there, but it is quick access to folders. Im wanting to go to applications i use all the time, eclipse, firefox, kate, konsole, etc [09:07] ussher you mean that have shortcuts to programs? [09:07] ussher i think you can drag icons there.... and copy them [09:08] in the 'K' menu i have a folder called "Fav" that i put all my used apps on and in kde3 just moved that to the task bar and that was it [09:08] coreyman: yeah, that is what i was expecting to do. doesnt work. [09:09] odd >.> works on my desktop [09:09] hello [09:09] coreyman: tried right-click and expected to see "add to task bar" but right click doesnt do anything unfortnately. [09:09] yea [09:10] idk im no guru, heh [09:11] coreyman: thanks for the help. still early days yet. Im sure ill stumble on the setting as im getting used to the new feel. thanks very much === william is now known as Guest55819 [09:20] Is there a really good and easy to use kde application to find/replace over multiple files, with support of regular expressions? [09:22] for replacing contents of files [09:24] hi [09:25] some1 is here? [09:26] mmm.... maybe no1...sobhh [09:29] g_giulio: fireaway the question [09:29] hello [09:30] hi at all [09:30] thanks a lot again to apparle... [09:30] remember...now java is ok!!!THANKS AGAIN... [09:31] so, it's sample... [09:31] g_giulio: so whats the new problem [09:31] Why does kubuntu only update from the next vesion... [09:31] Why not the latest?... [09:32] mattdh01: what do you mean [09:32] which is (if there is) a command in a shall to disactive an a comand to active the adsl service? over etherneth... [09:32] remember popon... [09:33] or popoff but it does'n work... [09:34] only to turn of ant to swith on the service... [09:34] are you talking about 'pon' [09:34] yes,.. but it's ok to use it? [09:35] g_giulio: O don't know I never used it [09:36] g_giulio: if you are having problem reagrding shell commands then they are same for ubuntu also.........try at #ubuntu......they have more members online [09:36] becouse if i use pon on a shell and i try to use tab to complete the command nothing do...like if there i no command [09:37] ok thanks i try... [10:05] * Lacsap is back. [10:06] !away > Lacsap [10:06] Lacsap, please see my private message [10:13] jussi01: thanks for the hint, I'm not so familiar with IRC ;) I'll change the messages... [10:31] Hello, I tried upgrading from kde4.2 to 4.3 on jaunty, but I'm getting the following dependency problem: http://pastebin.com/m323cb82c [10:33] please anybody? I'm stuck with some stuff from 4.2 and some from 4.3, and a big mess === jeff_ is now known as Guest7828 [10:52] hi what's this? [10:54] who can tell me where i can download the c++ === ChristyJohn is now known as ChristyJon === ChristyJon is now known as ChristyJohn === ohot is now known as irbis === Andrea is now known as Guest81239 === kb is now known as Guest48707 === io is now known as Guest88543 === Phil_Ewert is now known as Phil_Ewert|aw === Phil_Ewert|aw is now known as Phil_Ewert === tommy is now known as tommy_the-dragon [12:31] hi [12:33] how to configure environment variables [12:33] !rc [12:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about rc [12:33] !env [12:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about env [12:33] !environment [12:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about environment [12:36] apparle: what are you trying to do? [12:36] apparle: in bash just do: ENV-VARNAME="value" [12:36] apparle: that sets it [12:37] apparle: e.g. DISPLAY=":0" [12:37] I want to do it permantly [12:37] hi [12:37] apparle: put it into your bashrc [12:38] makdaknife: there is nice tutorial on that on help.ubuntu.com I am looking for that [12:40] apparle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables [12:42] makdaknife: exactly...............thanks === ubuntu_ is now known as afeijo [12:43] hi [12:43] apparle: no problem... thank google [12:43] apt-get cant install partitionmanager, what server do I need to add? [12:43] Hello, I tried upgrading from kde4.2 to 4.3 on jaunty, but I'm getting the following dependency problem: http://pastebin.com/m323cb82c [12:44] please anybody? I'm stuck with some stuff from 4.2 and some from 4.3, and a big mess [12:45] afief: install this package kdepim-groupware [12:46] apparle: that gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/mbaff7c [12:48] how can I install partitionmanager ? [12:48] hi how do i set my keyboard to german by editing a config? [12:49] hmmm how to enable component universe? [12:49] edit the source.list [12:49] edit /etc/apt/sources.list [12:50] checking [12:50] http://warren.guy.net.au/docs/ubuntu-enabling-universe-multiverse-repositories.html [12:50] afeijo: http://warren.guy.net.au/docs/ubuntu-enabling-universe-multiverse-repositories.html [12:51] chill3: done, thanks! [12:51] :-) [12:51] use google "enabling universe" [12:51] Can anybody help me with this failed upgrade to 4.3? [12:52] chill3: google could think that I was playing god? :p [12:52] I don't get the point [12:52] chill3: jk, god made the universe LOL [12:53] lol [12:58] how do I change my keyboard layout? [12:59] can I install firefox 3.5 from repositories?? [13:00] !ff35 | apparle [13:00] apparle: Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko in your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY [13:03] exit === Phil_Ewert is now known as Phil_Ewert|aw === beef is now known as theoneasking [13:09] hi. I am in need of some assistance. this here is not 1 simple question, it is a rather long journey. It all starts with fixing microphone, but There are allot of small issues on the way. First of all. I have found a temporary way to fix mic which involves deactivating drivers, rebooting, then activate them again without rebooting. Now when running lsmod when the microphone is working I get this output "ctxfi" 84136 "used by" 3 , whil [13:09] running lsmod when mic is not working i get "used by" 2 at the same line. anyone able to join me on this journey ? [13:11] i'm sorry. when mic is working it is used by 2 [13:11] that means opposite to what i typed above [13:11] cmon folks, dont be lazy :) been posting for 2 days now [13:24] !netsplit [13:24] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === gcivitella is now known as sante === sde_ is now known as goob [13:35] hi, what do you advice to replace superkaramba on KDE4 ? any apps can use the superkaramba theme ? [13:41] Howdy all === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [14:00] Quick question (google wasn't much help): Does Kubuntu Jaunty include pulseaudio out of the box, or is that just a vanilla gnome-thing? === rene is now known as Guest15423 [14:01] GeminiDomino: it goes natively, afaik [14:03] eMyller: I'm not sure what you mean. [14:03] GeminiDomino: do u wanna know if it's installed by some gnome stuff or comes with kubuntu itself? [14:03] It sticks with a native sound system, or it includes pulseaudio natively now? [14:03] With kubuntu itself. [14:03] I'm trying to get the hell away from it [14:04] calm down [14:04] pulseaudio is a fallback [14:05] feel free to uninstall it [14:06] That's why I'm asking. It's proven to be somewhat sticky to do that in Ubuntu proper in my experience [14:07] i'm not expert about it, it's just something i noticed. i might be worng, though. [14:09] Aright. Thanks. [14:09] That puts kubuntu on the short-list [14:11] hi [14:11] hi goob [14:13] GeminiDomino: I've run kubuntu with and without pulseaudio [14:13] makdaknife: Which one is its default state? [14:13]