[00:01] <cesar_bo> Ampelbein, yeees! is truth! I was to excited, I think I read the announce to fast and don't pay atention XD
[00:54] <poolie> thumper: let me know if you want me to file a bug on any of the mp discussion
[00:55] <poolie> also what happens if you send mail to a mp from an email address not associated with a launchpad account? i guess it's rejected?
[00:55] <thumper> poolie: you could see if there is one about structural subscriptions for branches, but I think there is
[00:55] <thumper> poolie: yes it is
[01:15] <sladen> celso: I've found your  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/auto-rt.admin.canonical.com  but how do I add that to eg. ubuntu-website bugs?
[01:51] <poolie> is it a known problem that the fonts have gone weird in the latest edge rollout?
[01:52] <lifeless> try ctrl-f5
[01:52] <lifeless> or ctrl-r
[02:08] <poolie> nup
[02:08] <poolie> it's that spindly serif font that's often used for english text in a japanese locale
[10:45] <compengi> if i created a space in bazaar for my project, can't i have a debugging system for it?
[10:53] <noodles775> compengi: Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking whether your project on Launchpad can have bug tracking?
[10:55] <compengi> noodles775, exactly. i push a scripting code to bazaar.launchpad.net but it seems that i have no ability to have a bug tracker for it
[10:57] <noodles775> compengi: if you edit your project, there is a section "Bugs are tracked:" - have you got 'In Launchpad' selected?
[10:59] <compengi> noodles775, i'm not sure where to find that, but here is the url that points to the code https://code.launchpad.net/~compengi/+junk/Cirssi
[11:00] <noodles775> compengi: so that branch is not related to an actual project - it's just in your personal repository (+junk).
[11:02] <compengi> noodles775, aha, and in case i want a project. how do i create it
[11:03] <noodles775> There's a link from the LP homepage... https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new
[11:04] <noodles775> Let me know how you go!
[11:15] <compengi> noodles775, can i import to the newest branch from my previous one?
[11:16] <noodles775> compengi: you can push it from your computer to your new project... no need to import it.
[11:20] <Laney> Oh, wow
[11:20] <Laney> I like the new build result page. Good work chaps
[11:20] <noodles775> cprov-afk: ^^^ :)
[11:21] <wgrant> It is very nice, although it does have a couple of bugs that I need to file.
[11:34] <ghostcube> hi can anyone help me with merging 2 accounts or maybe deleting one of them
[11:36] <noodles775> ghostcube: you need to ask a question at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+questions requesting this.
[11:36] <noodles775> Let me know once you've done it and I'll get it assigned.
[11:37] <wgrant> ghostcube: Do you have access to the email address on both accounts?
[11:37] <wgrant> If so, you don't need to ask a question.
[11:37] <ghostcube> wgrant: yes i have
[11:37] <noodles775> Ah - I need to re-read the faqs... thanks wgrant.
[11:37] <wgrant> ghostcube: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[11:37] <ghostcube> wow thx youre fast in here :)
[11:45] <ghostcube> thx all worked fine :)
[11:45] <wgrant> ghostcube: Excellent.
[11:50] <compengi> looks like there is an css issue on this page https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cirssi or it's just me? i see icons over text
[11:58] <Laney> it wasn't clear to me how to issue a give-back on the new page, actually
[12:00] <wgrant> Laney: Indeed, that's unobvious.
[12:01] <Laney> wgrant: was that one of your bugs?
[12:01] <wgrant> Laney: No.
[12:01] <Laney> alright, I'll file it
[12:01] <Laney> soyuz?
[12:01] <wgrant> But it is now, unless you want to.
[12:01] <wgrant> Yes.
[12:49] <danilos> compengi: please file a bug about it if it isn't yet filed (look for bugs tagged with css-sprites tag)
[13:28] <andresmujica1> hi, i wonder which is the right way to install launchpadlib, via bzr or via python-launchpadlib ?  i'm having issues with the bzr process and found the package available... ?
[13:33] <james_w> andresmujica1: the package should work fine
[13:34] <james_w> it's a little out of date, but there haven't been too many changes
[13:34] <andresmujica1> james_w: thanks.  by the way this error http://pastebin.com/m14ca4f9e its related to bug 400170
[13:34] <andresmujica1> right ?
[13:35] <james_w> yes, I think so
[13:35] <andresmujica1> ok, thks
[14:39] <greg-g> if I were to report a bug about the LP apport retracing service, which project should it be against?
[14:39] <Ursinha> greg-g, hmm launchpad bugs, I guess
[14:39] <Ursinha> or malone
[14:39] <greg-g> Ursinha: ok, thanks, I'll pick one and let the triager figure it out :)
[14:40] <greg-g> Ursinha: hiya, btw.
[14:40] <Ursinha> greg-g, actually launchpad bugs == malone :)
[14:40] <Ursinha> greg-g, hi :D
[14:43] <wgrant> No.
[14:43] <wgrant> greg-g: The apport retracer is 'apport'.
[14:43] <wgrant> It just happens to integrate with malone.
[14:48] <greg-g> wgrant: right, so I should report it against the lp.net/apport project? not anything within launchpad itself?
[14:48] <wgrant> greg-g: Correct. It's not part of Launchpad.
[14:49] <greg-g> ok, cool, thanks
[14:56] <papo> hello
[14:56] <papo> how can I remove a PPA?
[14:57] <noodles775> papo: you can delete all the packages published there, but if you want it removed from your account (so it doesn't appear as a link) you'll need to file a question.
[14:59] <papo> noodles775: Ok, thank you. Let's see if I can figure out how to submit a question
[14:59] <noodles775> papo: sorry, here's the link:
[14:59] <noodles775> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+questions
[14:59] <papo> ahh I see, thank you
[15:01] <papo> noodles775: I'm not sure if I have to file it against "launchpad itself" or "launchpad build system"
[15:01] <papo> auto build system even
[15:01] <noodles775> papo: launchpad itself is fine - I'll assign it to someone who can do it for you.
[15:05] <papo> noodles775: Ok, thank you. It's 80521
[15:06] <noodles775> papo: great.
[15:08] <papo> thanks
[15:22] <noodles775> Hi papo, I just read the description of your ppa removal - and just wanted to check: do you really want it removed? You might use it another time in similar circumstances?
[15:23] <noodles775> I mean, there's no harm in it being empty until you need it - let me know what you think.
[15:25] <papo> noodles775: Hmm, good point, but I guess next time I would rather make a PPA called "security" or something. That would allow me to add and remove packages for this kind of issue. On the other hand, if it's complicated for you to remove the thing, I could do precisely that with the current PPA, the name wouldn't exactly be proper, though
[15:25] <papo> noodles775: I didn't realized that I was not able to remove a PPA myself when I created it yesterday... I guess I would have done what I just described if I had known that
[15:26] <maxb> Can ppas ever beremoved?
[15:26] <noodles775> papo: you can still create a second ppa call security, and leave the current one for other things you may package in the future.
[15:26] <maxb> I filed a question, and mine just got deactivated, not removed.
[15:26] <maxb> I reopened the question, but no one has responded
[15:29] <noodles775> maxb: I'm not sure - I assumed that they could be removed by a losa, but perhaps there are issues doing so - cprov^^
[15:30] <papo> noodles775: yeah but if I have this security PPA I won't need a pidgin-safe PPA. I suggest we do it this way: If there are issues and it's complicated I'll just leave it this way, if someone with the proper permissions can easily remove it, let's just remove it
[15:31] <noodles775> papo: ok, I'll update the question (ignore the current answer that will be sent :) ).
[15:31] <papo> okay, thank you
[15:31] <cprov> empty PPAs (never had any uploads) can be purged, but once you upload anything to it it can only be disabled and the ppa-name will be blacklisted.
[15:32] <wgrant> cprov: It would be nice to be able to rename them.
[15:32] <wgrant> That would fix this situation.
[15:33] <cprov> wgrant: we have to find a way to propagate renaming to the repository area before we allow that.
[15:33] <cprov> but, yes, I agree it's a legitimate request.
[15:33]  * noodles775 sees ideas already flowing through wgrant's head planning to do that...
[15:33] <wgrant> cprov: The obvious thing to do is just go careful if the directory doesn't exist.
[15:34] <wgrant> And then the old one will be killed by the mythical script that also kills disabled PPAs.
[15:34] <cprov> wgrant: it's not that simple ... UI is light years away from the DB and the repository disk ...
[15:35] <cprov> wgrant: ehe, there is not such script (for killing disabled PPA repos) yet.
[15:35] <wgrant> cprov: I know. But the publisher just has to see that the archive directory doesn't exist on the disk, and realise that it needs to be careful.
[15:35] <wgrant> cprov: Hence 'mythical script'
[15:36] <wgrant> All suite indices would need to be republished anyway (to update the PPA name in the indices), so just renaming the directory would still require a careful publishing.
[15:36] <cprov> wgrant: don't forget the old repo has to be removed from disk, and the publisher will have no idea whatsoever that it existed.
[15:37] <wgrant> cprov: Right, that's what the non-existent script does.
[15:38] <cprov> wgrant: magical Archive.name column ? how can it store 2 names ? the old (to be removed) and the new (to be carefully published).
[15:38] <cprov> err, magic, I meant.
[15:40] <wgrant> cprov: Oh. I imagined the script would just walk the tree of archives, looking for stuff that shouldn't be there. That would catch person renames, too. There's a script that finds that set already.
[15:40] <cprov> anyway, the issue is legitimate: I have ppa X and uploaded stuff, but I hate this name, want to have PPA Y, please help me!
[15:41] <cprov> wgrant: scripts/ftpmaster-tools/ppa-report.py is almost there.
[15:41] <wgrant> cprov: That's what I was looking at.
[15:41] <wgrant> Although it seems broken by named PPAs.
 empty PPAs (never had any uploads) can be purged, but once you upload anything to it it can only be disabled and the ppa-name will be blacklisted.   <--- how may I request this?
[15:42] <cprov> wgrant: I don't remember, it catches owner rename/merge
[15:43] <cprov> maxb: file a question on soyuz, empty PPA will be wiped by losas.
[15:43] <maxb> I did, they just disabled it
[15:43] <cprov> maxb: was it empty ?
[15:43] <maxb> yes - and I even said so in the question :-)
[15:44] <cprov> maxb: question url, please ?
[15:44] <maxb> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/79720
[15:45] <cprov> maxb: oh jezz, I can't see your disabled ppas anymore :-/
[15:46] <wgrant> Hm. Is it meant to show up in listings to me?
[15:46] <maxb> I suspect it's being shown to me because I'm the owner
[15:47] <cprov> exactly.
[15:47] <wgrant> I can view the archive on production, but not on edge. But I can still see it, crossed out, on /~maxb on edge.
[15:47] <cprov> maxb: anyway, you've never uploaded anything to that PPA, it can be purged.
[15:48] <maxb> Shall I just wait for the LOSAs to revisit my question?
[15:50] <cprov> maxb: yes, I've commented it.
[15:51] <maxb> thanks
[15:53] <Laney> Is something wrong with the cookies? I and a few others keep being logged out
[16:01] <jtatum> Laney: The issue is mentioned in the topic, although I thought they were corrected yesterday when servers were rebooted...
[16:02] <Laney> chriscoulson just complained about it in another channel
[16:05] <lfaraone> Is there a way to simultaniously upload to more than one release in a PPA without rebuilding each binary?
[16:05] <lfaraone> *source changes / tgz etc file?
[16:07] <EagleScreen> Can I delete a PPA?
[16:07] <beuno> EagleScreen, I think you need to file a question so an admin can do it
[16:23] <Laney> Why are bug descriptions in a different font to replies?
[16:23] <Laney> looks a bit odd imo
[16:24] <cprov> lfaraone: not yet, you have to upload, wait it to build in the original target, then copy source and binaries to other suites
[16:25] <cprov> lfaraone: there are API methods to make it semi-automatically.
[16:25] <cprov> lfaraone: and also a bug filed to support exactly what you suggested.
[16:27] <cprov> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/235064
[17:22] <geser> EagleScreen: you can disable a PPA but not delete it
[17:22] <EagleScreen> where is the option for disabling?
[17:28] <ovnicraft> hi folks, i have my team i want to renamed but when try, tell me that it has mailing list
[17:28] <ovnicraft> but we dont
[17:30] <ovnicraft> how i can solve this?
[17:35] <Ursinha> ovnicraft, you may want to file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad asking for assistance
[17:35] <Ursinha> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad , sorry
[17:40] <jaypipes> anybody know about network issues for launchpad.net? See here: almost 70% packet loss connecting to launchpad.net and code.launchpad.net. routing through vanadium.canonical.com... http://pastebin.flamingspork.com/77
[17:48] <jamone1313> I have just finished getting a launchpad server setup and running on a test machine, but for the life of me I can't see how to delete the test people/projects, I can add fine
[17:49] <tsimpson> jaypipes: with 32 pings I get 3% packet loss (31/32). so it's not directly an issue with LP (91.189.90.211)
[17:50] <jaypipes> tsimpson: k.  just wondering if I'm the only one having issues :)  It's weird.  Through a web browser, it's slow, but eventually I can see web pages on LP.  But bzr pull anything on lp:~jaypipes/drizzle/* times out with unknown host bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net.  And, if I bzr pull http://code.launchpad.net, same result :(
[17:51] <jaypipes> tsimpson: could easily be an issue with our network in this darn conference room too ;)
[17:51] <jaypipes> tsimpson: just thought it was weird so much packet loss to canonical.com and no packet loss to google.com...
[17:51] <tsimpson> yes, it's strange
[17:53] <tsimpson> could be a geographical issue too
[18:29] <Flare183> How can I fix this error: gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on configuration file `/home/jesse/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[18:30] <LarstiQ> Flare183: remove some of the read permissions
[18:30] <Flare183> LarstiQ: From?
[18:31] <LarstiQ> Flare183: that file/directory
[18:31] <Flare183> LarstiQ: I mean, what read permissions should I remove them from, the group, user, or other?
[18:31] <LarstiQ> Flare183: group and other
[18:31] <Flare183> Ahh ok
[18:31] <Flare183> Thanks
[18:31] <LarstiQ> Flare183: (oh, and obviously write if they exist)
[18:32] <Flare183> LarstiQ: Yes, of course ;)
[18:32] <LarstiQ> Flare183: just restrict it to your user
[18:32] <LarstiQ> no need for anyone else to access it
[18:32] <Flare183> True
[20:19] <smoser> is there a way to show a list bugs that you can't necissarily make a query for?
[20:19] <smoser> in bugzilla, you could : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=179993+177251
[20:21] <smoser> err... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_id=179993,177251 is probably better
[20:23] <beuno> smoser, custom lists of bugs?
[20:24] <intellectronica> smoser: there isn't, and if you ask me, i think it's a nice feature
[20:24] <intellectronica> i mean it's something we should do
[20:24] <intellectronica> smoser: care to file a bug?
[20:26] <smoser> intellectronica, sure
[20:27] <intellectronica> smoser: great, thanks
[20:30] <smoser> what project ? intellectronica
[20:30] <intellectronica> smoser: https://edge.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug
[20:42] <smoser> intellectronica, bug 416612 . i subscribed you.
[20:43] <intellectronica> smoser: thanks, you're a star
[20:43] <smoser> i agree. :)
[20:58] <jcastro> thumper: I have some questions about the lp api to Answers, would you be the right guy to talk to?
[21:25] <ghostcube> hi, its me again and i have a question is it possible that two users have the same nickname ?
[21:26] <ghostcube> https://launchpad.net/~ghostwork thats me but whos this https://launchpad.net/~ghostcube
[21:26] <ghostcube> oO
[21:26] <ghostcube> and if i try to change ghostwork to ghostcube i get told already in use
[21:27] <ghostcube> its a bit irritating lol
[21:34] <ghostcube> ok forget it i may know whats going on
[21:38] <ghostcube> -_- i had another account that i had forgotten about lol i noticed as i contacted the ghostube account rofl
[21:38] <ghostcube> sorry for disturbing
[22:09] <thumper> jcastro: not really -
[22:10] <thumper> jcastro: however answers doesn't really have an owner right now
[22:10] <thumper> jcastro: the best option is to email the launchpad-dev mailing list
[23:58] <wgrant> popey: LP already has hardware data, but they removed public access a month or two ago :( I'd used it on a number of occasions.
[23:58] <popey> :(