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huatsmorning08:05
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Riddellkenvandine: how are you getting on with the new libindicate?10:36
asaclool: where do i put reviews for the eucalyptus MIR?10:37
asaclool: the wiki table has no column for comments of reviewer ... or should i use the reviewneeded column like:10:37
asacproblems: 1. asdasd 2. qweq10:37
asacsorry, but wasnt at the meeting ;)10:38
asaclool: also there are packages not listed in any MIR set10:39
asace.g. antlr10:39
asacdoes that mean they are just needed without any reason?10:39
asaci mean: do we assume that there is a real reason for a package even though we dont have a rational?10:39
loolasac: Either put in Status or add a column10:40
loolasac: The packages with 0 on the left column are the ones which the next version of eucalyptus will depend on10:41
asaclool: so our java spec feels a bit outdated ... debian spec says: "java libraries MUST not depend on any runtime (effectivly we drop the runtime dependency) "10:42
asacour spec still wants -headless et al10:42
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/LibraryPackaging10:42
asacanyway. i guess its ok to still depend on it10:43
loolasac: Hmm you might want to ping doko about it10:44
loolHe has good understanding on how the Debian versus Ubuntu policies relate10:44
asacyeah will do10:44
asaclool: i also have asm3 on my system, so i will probably review that. if you wanted to have it explicitly let me know ;)10:45
loolOh no feel free!10:45
asaci will add your nick to the next topmost one in turn ;)10:45
looleh10:46
Riddellooh asac is onto MIRs, don't forget mine :)10:46
asachehe10:57
MadsRHDoes anyone know anything about PackageKid? I was hoping to see Richard Hughes's UI work land in Karmic: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/04/14/gnome-packagekit-updates/11:43
asaclool: did you read my question about rational?11:46
asaci have not libconcurrent-java .... doesnt even have a rdepends ;)11:47
asachmm11:47
asacmaybe thats how java is ;)11:47
asaclet me check Sources11:47
asaclool: ok found it ... its build-dep for libaspectwerkz2-java11:49
asacwill document it there11:49
loolasac: Just replied11:54
loolasac: There's rationale between [] on some packages11:54
loolOtherwise it's just deps of euca11:54
asaclool: i saw the [] ... (though i missed it for this one because i was in edit mode )11:54
asaclool: question is mostly about the top level packages (with depend count 0)11:55
asacbut i will check your reply11:55
loolasac: These are deps of the eucalpytus upstream version we intend to ship in karmic11:56
loolAccording to the eucalyptus upstream folks11:56
asaclool: ok lets do a component-mismatches step after fiinishing 0 and 111:56
asacerr 3,2,1 ;)11:57
asacmight be that we review something for nothing though ... if a 0 depends on a 1 and 0 isnt required ;)11:57
loolasac: Yes, its the risk with the whole list11:58
loolasac: The packages were "unconfirmed" until recently; I didnt assign any unconfirmed packages though11:59
asacwhat does "unconfirmed" mean ;)?11:59
loolasac: It meant we werent sure whether it would be required12:01
* lool lunch &12:01
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asaclool: also doing easymock and trove now12:39
asaclool: btw, i baiscally approve under assumption that bugs are fixed that i file and document. i guess thats ok so we dont need re-submission et al12:40
loolasac: its fine with the bugs noted in the wiki page imo12:46
asaclool: also grabbing jrexx and12:51
asaclibjoda-time-java12:51
* lool is impressed12:53
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asaclool: all 3 and 2 are done \o/13:32
asaci will send a mail later about a quick review list for java packages13:32
asacbased on the questions doko answered13:32
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loolasac: Thanks a lot!  ttx will be more relaxed now  ;)13:58
rodrigo_wow, nice -> http://nlokos.blogspot.com/2009/08/crossing-finish-line.html14:01
rodrigo_when are we getting that packaged? :D14:01
kenvandinei saw that live at guadec14:02
kenvandineit was cool14:02
statik bratsche, i believe the bzr-search plugin can search through history15:20
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kenvandineRiddell, are you blocked on libindicate?15:32
kenvandinei have some other more pressing things... but libindicate is on my todo list15:32
Riddellkenvandine: one of my todo items is, I also have other more pressing things :)15:33
kenvandineRiddell, ok... :)15:33
kenvandineRiddell, how is the indicator stuff in kde looking?15:33
Riddelldunno, it's waiting on new libindicate :)15:36
Riddellwell, kmail is15:36
Riddellkonversation is working well15:36
kenvandineRiddell, awesome15:40
chrisccoulsondoes anyone else have to keep signing on with launchpad everytime they want to use it?15:44
Laneychrisccoulson: yeah it's happened to me a few times15:53
chrisccoulsonLaney - glad it's not just me then ;)15:55
chrisccoulsonit really is a PITA15:56
Laneyslangasek mentioned it too15:56
* Laney pinged #lp15:56
chrisccoulsonLaney - thanks15:56
chrisccoulsonright, back to work for me15:56
Laneythat's no fun :(15:56
chrisccoulsonit's definately no fun ;)15:57
chrisccoulsonthats why i spend most of my time on here15:57
rodrigo_how can I add some gconf keys values on package installation?16:51
chrisccoulsonrodrigo_ - you want to set some gconf keys by default on install right?17:05
chrisccoulsonto do that, you can ship a gconf-defaults file in debian/ (or <package_name>-gconf-defaults)17:05
chrisccoulsonwith key/value pairs in17:05
chrisccoulsonand make a call to dh_gconf in debian/rules17:06
rodrigo_ah, cool17:06
rodrigo_chrisccoulson: thanks17:06
chrisccoulsonif you're using cdbs and already include the gnome class, then that already takes care of the dh_gconf call i think17:06
rodrigo_ok17:15
hyperairyou mean package.gconf-defaults, not package-gconf-defaults.17:16
chrisccoulsonhyperair - yes, that was a typo ;)17:18
hyperair=)17:18
* kenvandine runs to lunch18:00
rickspencer3tkamppeter: hey - what's up with bug 394447 ?18:04
rickspencer3bug #39444718:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394447 in hplip "karmic printing regression on HP PSC 750" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39444718:04
rickspencer3pedro_: are you around?18:37
pedro_rickspencer3, yeap19:00
rickspencer3pedro_: bug #40216919:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 402169 in brasero "brasero_video_options_new implicitly converted to pointer" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40216919:12
rickspencer3and bug #40217519:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 402175 in gnumeric "gtk_tree_view_column_get_cell_renderers implicitly converted to pointer" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40217519:12
rickspencer3these seem like upstream bugs to me, right?19:12
pedro_looking19:13
pedro_rickspencer3, that's correct, will send those upstream now if they aren't there yet19:13
rickspencer3pedro_: thanks!19:14
pedro_my pleasure ;-)19:14
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tkamppeterrickspencer3: I have seen bug 394447, seems that the HP guys have messed up the driver. I have reported it as HPLIP upstream bug.20:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394447 in hplip "karmic printing regression on HP PSC 750" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39444720:57
rickspencer3tkamppeter: thanks Till20:57
tkamppeterrickspencer3: Unfortunately, I do not have a sample of this printer category (my printers are all much newer).21:00
rickspencer3hmm21:00
rickspencer3tkamppeter: in your experience, do you suspect that HP will fix it, or should I be concerned?21:00
tkamppeterI have a little doubt, I reported a lot of bugs and not all got fixed. There are some patches dangling around in our package which should be applied upstream.21:01
tkamppeterThe printer is rather old and I wonder why they did not succeed to keep the printer working.21:02
tkamppeterrickspencer3: Bug 392040 suggests that it is a PPD issue.21:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392040 in hplip "Printed documents only occupy 25% of the A4 page." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39204021:05
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tkamppeterrickspencer3: I want to ask you something about CUPS 1.4 introduction.21:23
rickspencer3tkamppeter: go ahead21:24
tkamppeterMike Sweet published the RC1 on June 8. Now I was waiting for the final and wondering where it is.21:24
tkamppeterI posted on the CUPS upstream ML and Mike answered off-list, that the HEAD of the SVN is the final now.21:25
tkamppeterIt is only not tagged and released because Apple wants to sync it with the OS X.21:26
tkamppeterThis can come slightly after our FF.21:26
tkamppeterSo I want to ask you, whether I can package up the current SVN as it it is technically final and upload this before our FF, and then after FF when 1.4.0 comes out officially do a no-change-release replacing the upstream tarball by the official tarball.21:28
tkamppeterrickspencer3: ^^21:29
rickspencer3tkamppeter: this makes sense to me21:35
rickspencer3I would think pitti would want to weight in, but if you can't wait until Monday, I would double check possible with asac also21:35
rickspencer3but overall, getting in before ff even if from svn seems logical to me21:35
tkamppeterasac, can you look at my messages in the last 10 or 15 lines from here?21:35
tkamppeterrickspencer3: Thanks.21:40
asactkamppeter: yes. package your own tar.gz using 1.4.0~svnREVID as upstream version21:46
asacand when he tags it, upload the 1.4.0 ... which wouldnt need a feature freeze exception anymore21:47
tkamppeterasac, thanks, I will do this tomorrow or Monday.21:48
asacgood. i will be gone on monday, so ask pitti then if you need more info21:49
chrisccoulsonhey bryce - you might know the answer to this, so i'll ask you before searching through the xorg code - are there some convenience functions used already that i can make use of to write messages to the xorg log file?22:07
brycechrisccoulson, yes22:07
brycechrisccoulson, usually if you scroll around in whatever file you're editing you'll spot the print calls in the correct calling syntax that you should use in that file22:08
chrisccoulsonbryce - thanks, i'll take a look :)22:08
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