[00:21] New bug: #416182 in nut (universe) "nut init script reports incorrect status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416182 [00:39] Does mkpasswd exist in Jaunty? [00:39] Im trying to set a bunch of users password automatically in a script [00:40] yes it does [00:40] it's in /usr/bin [00:48] I installed minimal OS .. it's not in there [00:48] what Package do i need? [00:51] oh_noes1: whois [00:52] thanks [01:27] we need a bot that uses packages.ubuntu.com [01:27] to provide such answers [02:45] * ball does battle with 20 Gbytes of files where people have polluted the filenames with + & and ' etc. I thought whitespace in filenames was bad enough! [02:46] ... \ is your friend :) [02:49] Or emacs, or find -exec [02:49] PhotoJim: someone just mentioned that to me as being related to tab completion, which I'm not used to [02:49] ...not even sure I have it in my shell. [02:49] ball: which shell? [02:50] twb: Bourne afaik. Let me check. [02:50] You mean ksh? [02:50] a shell without tab completion is ... a worthless shell [02:50] giovani: posh has value! [02:50] ball: tab completion is a godsend. bash supports it. [02:52] of course, bourne != bash [02:52] and bourne didn't have tab completion [02:52] twb: I had to google posh [02:52] twb: I've never heard it abbreviated that way [02:53] I'm not keen on bash. This /could/ conceivably be ksh, but the manpage doesn't say. I've always assumed it was Bourne. It's /bin/sh on a NetBSD host (that I'd like to get Ubuntu Server on) [02:53] giovani: er, apt-get install posh [02:53] twb: oh ... a different posh [02:53] thank god [02:53] I thought you meant Microsoft Power Shell -- which is what google resulted [02:53] ball: oh, I assumed you meant an Ubuntu box, where bourne isn't available [02:54] I would like to get Ubuntu Server on there, but it's a production server so I have to be careful about the transition [02:54] ball: this might be something to increase your keenness for bash, then. [02:54] ball: it wouldn't surprise me at all if /bin/sh had no completion -- it's not really intended for interactive use, after all [02:54] twb: I've used it for ten years easilly [02:55] ...and that's assuming I didn't use it on unix prior to NetBSD [02:55] netbsd (now, at least) uses csh as its default shell iirc [02:56] NetBSD doesn't have a default shell [02:56] (even for root) [02:56] brb [02:56] it doesn't? [02:56] That doesn't make sense [02:59] http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-userlevel/2006/09/18/0008.html [02:59] this claims that csh is indeed the default shell on netbsd (for non-root users) [03:01] giovani: that's probably very out of date. I know that the installer asks you which shell to use for root and I always specify a shell for individual users as I create them. [03:01] Not sure I ever tried creating a user without specifying a shell [03:01] Perhaps I'll try that. [03:01] ball: very out of date? I really don't think so [03:03] * ball shrugs [03:03] Like I said, the installer asks. [03:30] Eh, who cares? [03:32] What does Ubuntu Server use as its default shell? [03:33] ball: bash [03:34] giovani: Hmm... okay. [03:36] as far as I know, all Linuxes use bash as default. [03:36] all the ones I've been exposed to, at least. [03:39] I'm on a Xubuntu box today and that seems to be using bash [03:44] ball: well being that xubuntu is ubuntu + xfce ... I'd imagine so :) [03:44] * ball shrugs [03:44] heh [03:45] It would be really helpful if I had a spare server to try Ubuntu Server on before making the move [03:45] ball, virtualization [03:45] that's what virtualization is handy for [03:45] (something comparable to the ML110) [03:46] its this new technology [03:46] that allows you to run multiple machines like as if they were real [03:46] Faust-C: I don't think I can run anything on NetBSD that Linux will want to live inside. [03:46] * Faust-C ok ok im done [03:46] ...I'm told Ubuntu doesn't like Xen very much [03:46] ball, friend of mine says he has virtualbox running on fbsd and i think there is a nbsd port eh [03:47] ball, well theres kvm and items like convirt to manage it [03:47] ball: you don't have any other machines than those running netbsd? [03:47] ball, i suggest you learn more about emerging technologies from all aspects not just a BSD or Linux based view :P [03:47] qemu sems to maybe-kinda-sorta run on netbsd [03:47] Faust-C: I'm familiar with the concept of virtualisation [03:48] s/sems/seems/ [03:48] ball i know, i was being semi-snarky [03:48] giovani: Not really. My primary desktop machine crapped out last month. [03:48] ball: I can't really imagine only running one OS [03:49] giovani, me either [03:49] giovani: I've certainly enjoyed my experimentation with Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server thus far. [03:49] i would feel out of touch [03:49] I mean, I definitely have my primary/favorite [03:49] Faust-C: I was out of touch. [03:49] ...and a bit "blinkered" [03:49] lol [03:50] yeah im trying to do my business but i havent really messed w/ vista at all [03:50] im like wtf do i do now... man this is new [03:50] I aim to be a generalist specialist [03:50] giovani, ah i like that [03:50] i.e. I know a little about a lot of things -- and a lot about a specific area [03:50] Oh, I suppose I briefly ran MacOS X on an iBook, but once I had X up and running on it that was as much as I needed to know. [03:51] ...because I could connect to NetBSD or Linux boxen and run X clients there. [03:51] Faust-C: Win7 is a massive improvement [03:51] Then there was the i5/OS project. [03:51] Faust-C: I'm running it on a few mobile devices that my usage patterns on aren't well suited for *nix [03:51] * ball shudders [03:51] plan9 ftw!!! [03:52] I doubt anyone's going to pay me to run Plan9 [03:52] giovani, nice ive heard 7 has greatly improved and im actually excited because it will spark innovation to a new leveel [03:52] universities will [03:52] err level rather [03:52] ...though icbw [03:52] I might pay you to run plan9 [03:52] heh [03:52] that'll be 50p please ;-) [03:52] heh [03:52] install it first [03:52] then we can talk [03:53] Damn, that means I have to nuke my Oberon partition ;-) [03:53] we have a guy at work who used to be employed by bell labs [03:53] awesome dude [03:53] giovani, ah its you i want to speak to !! lol [04:00] Faust-C: que? [04:01] heh ill ttyt about it lol [04:01] heh, okay ... now I'm curious [04:19] Hmm... [07:11] New bug: #416264 in openssh (main) "ssh -v reports "debug1 - unspecified gss failure. minor code may provide more information"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416264 [07:16] New bug: #416265 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso post-installation script devolvi? el c?digo de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416265 [07:34] Hello Everyone [07:34] I am a newbie to Servers and need to configure my bind [07:35] please provide me a link to learn it from A to Z [07:36] I personally use djbdns, instead of bind. [07:36] Documentation: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html [07:38] Ubuntu package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/djbdns [07:42] I find djbdns to be easier to configure, plus it is historically more secure. [07:43] jtimberman: hmm but ubuntu server is packaged with BIND? isnt it? [07:43] personally, i use bind for couple of years in corporate environments and never found any issues, though djb is easier.. [07:44] i've used bind and djbdns in a variety of environments over the last 12 years. given the choice i'll take djbdns every time. [07:45] hmmm, okay, according to your experience, it might be better... [07:45] better is subjective. bind certainly has a wider knowledge base of experienced users/admins. [07:45] so it is "better" in that regard. [07:46] but for security, simplicity and stability, my preference is to djbdns :D [07:52] jtimberman: simplicity? stability? [07:52] jtimberman: you must be misstaken :P [07:52] sure, bind isn't great. [08:02] like i said, i'll go on my 12 years experience between the two. [08:02] so i can't in good conscience recommend bind :) [08:09] Seems to me that djbdns loses because of djb [08:09] twb: i find that to be irrelevant when a package is available to install the software :) [08:10] jtimberman: it's not configured by the presence/absence of empty files? ;-) [08:11] I confess I have a penchant for dnsmasq. [08:12] twb: eh, i configure djbdns with chef these days anyway. [08:15] !ubuntu admin guide [08:15] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:15] !guide [08:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about guide [08:16] Goddammit [08:16] lol [08:16] And google is being unhelpful [08:16] Our channel bot said "beer is good" earlier. markov random chat ftw. [08:17] Looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html [08:17] Thanks [08:17] I wish that was in /topic [08:19] "Ubuntu ships with BIND (Berkley Internet Naming Daemon), the most common program used for maintaining a name server on Linux." [08:50] good morning [09:35] <\sh> does anyone know a howto to setup gfs/gfs2 on ubuntu? [09:36] ISTR it's rather straightforward. [09:36] \sh: Have you tried? [09:36] <\sh> soren: nope...I'm just reading the RH docs how it works in general [09:37] \sh: IIRC, the modules are in the kernel, so you just need gfs2-tools. [09:37] <\sh> soren: and apt-cache search gfs brings up a gfs2-utils package which is experimental, but there is no gfs.ko module only gfs2.ko [09:37] <\sh> right gfs2-tools was marked as experimental [09:38] <\sh> but let's see what I will break on those servers ;() [09:39] $ grep GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM /boot/config-2.6.31-6-generic [09:39] # CONFIG_GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM is not set [09:39] :( [09:40] <\sh> root@tile01:/boot# grep "GFS2" /boot/config-2.6.28-11-server [09:40] <\sh> CONFIG_GFS2_FS=m [09:40] <\sh> CONFIG_GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM=m [09:40] <\sh> jaunty here [09:41] Yeah, I know it used to be enabled. I wonder why they disabled it. [09:42] <\sh> soren: so i can just follow /usr/share/docs/gfs2-tolls/usage.txt.gz to try to get gfs2 running [09:42] Presumably. [09:44] <\sh> ok...let's see [09:44] WTF does this mean? [09:44] Aug 20 18:44:04 trimserver kernel: [760383.682911] audit(1250757844.844:4): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" name="/tmp/server.key" pid=28077 profile="/usr/sbin/slapd" namespace="default" [09:51] Apparently that is apparmor. [09:51] Er, yay? [09:51] <\sh> soren: did you ever set gfs2 up? regarding the usage.txt I should do some "mount -t configfs none /sys/kernel/config" which fails for obvious reasons [10:00] i've installed apache2 mysql-server php5 php5-mysql through aptitude but php files are still not being parsed... [10:00] the main place to put webpages is /usr/share/apache2? [10:00] not /var/www ? [10:00] mmm [10:00] \sh: What are te obvious reasons? [10:02] rags: You need libapache2-mod-php5 [10:02] soren: it's installed.... [10:02] Sure? You didn't mention it. [10:03] my guess is apache is not cofigured with php..but itsn't aptitude to take care of tht... [10:03] soren: yeah...I checkd with aptitude... [10:03] Upon installation, libapache2-mod-php5 should set that up. [10:03] What are you using to test it? [10:03] Firefox? wget? [10:04] firefox....ther is file with phpinfo()... [10:04] it just gives me the file as a download [10:04] <_ruben> sudo a2enmod php5 [10:04] Try with wget. [10:04] _ruben: ok...I'll try tht..but wht does tht do? [10:05] <_ruben> enable php5 in apache [10:05] soren: wget?...I dint' understand..how. [10:05] <_ruben> a2 = apache2 .. en = enable .. mod = module [10:05] rags: Instead of using firefox to access the url, use wget. [10:05] ...and look at the file you get. [10:05] See if it just says "phpinfo()" or if it was actually parsed. [10:05] Firefox tends to cache a bit eagerly sometimes. [10:06] _ruben: ok..it told me to run apache2 force-reload to enable... [10:06] soren: I'll try tht [10:07] <\sh> soren: /sys/kernel/config doesn't exist [10:08] \sh: That's why you mount it... [10:08] nope..same problem with firefox... [10:08] rags: What do you mean? [10:08] <\sh> soren: root@tile01:~# mount -t configfs none /sys/kernel/config [10:08] <\sh> mount: mount point /sys/kernel/config does not exist [10:08] it just gives the file as a download.. [10:08] rags: You just said you'd try with wget. [10:09] rags: I'm telling you: Firefox is not the right tool for testing this. [10:09] soren: i'll try it now...:) [10:10] soren: wget downloads the whole index.php file... [10:10] meaning? [10:11] What's in it? [10:11] New bug: #416313 in samba (main) "On samba of ubuntu-arm, large file copy fails " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416313 [10:12] the content tht i've put " " [10:14] so, php5 is enabled...and it's still giving probs...can it be tht aptitude didn't enable the moduls or something...? [10:18] New bug: #416318 in apache2 (main) "Apache doesn't honor existing bootscripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416318 [10:32] Hello Everyone! I am unable to restart bind [10:32] when i type $ sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart [10:32] ITs says Stopping [10:48] could someone point ma an manual to make ldap the backend for user auth? [10:50] hito_jp: killall named [10:51] johe|work: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html check LDAP authentification [10:51] thx acalvo [10:51] np [10:54] in order to be able to access a defined site in apache, I've to set up the dns name in bind and any other place? [10:54] if I access thru the IP it works [10:54] but thru the dns name it does not work [10:55] I've seen some bind configuration that map directly www to an ip, rather than to another IN statement [11:00] hi, my logs are "really" too full of "unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving". I see this issue is very common but googling and surfing I couldn't get a clear answer on how to solve the issue. I get thousands of this errors a day and I'm worried I misconfigured bind9 itself? Please i urge a solution! [11:00] sorry, I'm talking about bind9 ;) [11:34] eolo999: please pastebin your named.conf [11:35] * eolo999 is doing it [11:36] !pastebin [11:36] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [11:38] acalvo: what's the domain name? [11:38] Boohbah: esci.es [11:39] acalvo: i got an A record pointing to 213.96.29.134 is that right? [11:39] yes [11:39] but, wait [11:39] this is the production enviornment [11:39] and I'm migrating to a new one [11:40] so I've set up a testing lan [11:40] which can't access the outside world [11:41] what does 'dig esci.es' show from the testing server? [11:41] named.conf => http://paste.ubuntu.com/256257/ named.conf.options => http://paste.ubuntu.com/256261/ [11:41] it points to my dns server [11:42] and show the entries for esci.es [11:42] esci.es. 604800 IN A 10.0.0.4 [11:42] and you have a 10.0.0.4 vhost defined in apache configs? [11:43] yes [11:44] http://pastebin.com/d4b95103c [11:44] Boohbah: i just added the logging line but it doesn't solve the problem just remove the log entries! [11:46] eolo999: how bout named.conf.local? [11:46] Boohbah: arriving [11:46] ... [11:47] Boohbah: http://paste.ubuntu.com/256267/ [11:48] acalvo: i notice ServerName is www.esci.es. can you access it via http://www.esci.es/ ? [11:48] no [11:48] that's my main problem [11:48] it works thru the IP [11:48] but not with the dns name (or servername) [11:49] Try [11:49] ok [11:49] Boohbah: it worked [11:49] thank you [11:50] excellent [11:51] i like these tutorials for ubuntu apache config: [11:51] http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/4/29/ubuntu-hardy-apache-virtual-hosts-1 [11:54] eolo999: http://www.kholix.com/wiki/index.php/Unexpected_rcode_(SERVFAIL) [11:54] eolo999: you are probably receiving erroneous queries for your slave zones, check the allow-query option [11:56] Boohbah: thx. But the server must answer globally for many zones. I just disabled recursion from outside my network and don't know what to do more. [12:05] Boohbah: I'll take a good look at them [12:42] I'm trying to install a MUCK server on my Ubuntu Server box, and it's telling me it can't find libpcre. It's also giving me the option of specifying --with-libpcre="". I'm using the most recent Ubuntu Server Edition version. Do I need to apt-get something or is it already there? If the former, what should I get? If the latter, where is it? [12:46] <_ruben> Darcsabre_: most likely you need to install libpcre3-dev [12:46] Thank you. [12:49] Privately, I'm still waiting for someone to ask if I got Ubuntu Server Edition just to run a MUCK. Just because it sounds funny. xD [12:50] Darcsabre_: ok, i'll bite. what is a MUCK server? [13:00] hi there..somebody know any graphic tool to do backups into hard drives, tape, dvd, remotelly, etc? === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [13:18] <\sh> Darcsabre_: are you tryinto install protoMUCK? [13:19] <\sh> pmatulis: multi user created kingdom [13:19] <\sh> pmatulis: simialar to MUD ;) [13:50] hi, somebody know any backup tool? [13:55] rosa_: investigate backuppc [13:55] rosa_: not sure about tape and dvd however [13:55] rosa_: bacula as well [14:04] i was reading about bacula but look very hard to install...complicate [14:15] \sh: No, I'm installing TinyMUCK FB6. It seems to have worked, though. [14:15] And, after a few hitches not related to compile, it's also running. [15:13] funny thing [15:13] I'm trying to run a program [15:13] that works on another server [15:14] but it gives me: the file or directory does not exists [15:14] acalvo: what program? [15:14] it's the daemon of the Advatange Database Server [15:14] s/Advatage/Advantage [15:14] Do you know the name of the executable? [15:15] yes [15:15] -r-x------ 1 root root 4,1K 2008-03-17 15:10 adsd [15:15] I'm logged in as root [15:15] try "which adsd" [15:15] uo, does not give any result! [15:16] why? [15:16] Is this something that you would like to start manually, or automatically? [15:16] but, if I can "see" the file [15:16] manually [15:16] try ./adsd [15:16] with some command line switches [15:16] I've tried it [15:16] ./adsd {switches} [15:17] indeed, I've tried it [15:17] complains about not finding the file or directory [15:18] locate does not find the file neither [15:18] That's strange. [15:18] _{acalvo: Is it a binary or a script of some sort?
[15:18] <_ruben> it probably cant find a library .. try strace ./adsd
[15:19] should be a binary
[15:19] _{(What I'm really asking is if it has a shebang line that needs to be updated)
[15:19] _{If it's a binary then try what _ruben suggested =)
[15:19] does not makes sense
[15:19] strace says the same
[15:19] execve("./adsd", ["./adsd"], [/* 19 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[15:20] write(3, "strace: exec: No such file or dir"..., 40strace: exec: No such file or directory
[15:20] try "file adsd" (in the appropriate directory)
[15:21] adsd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped
[15:21] DAMEN
[15:21] DAMN
[15:21] it's x32
[15:21] under a x32_64 env
[15:21] Linux earth 2.6.28-15-server #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 20:09:37 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:22] What is x32_64?
[15:22] sorry
[15:22] x86_64
[15:22] Ah, okay.
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[15:22] what do I need to run it?
[15:23] some sort of 32 bit libraries, right?
[15:23] Can't you recompile it, or download a 64-bit binary?
[15:23] apt-get install linux32 ia32*
[15:23] no... I can't
[15:23] they don't have it
[15:24] acalvo: that's sad.
[15:24] It's old
[15:24] and they went mostly for win enviorenments
[15:24] What does it do?
[15:24] it's a database server
[15:24] ADS
[15:25] it was quite famous long time ago
[15:25] Oh yes, you did mention that.
[15:25] sad part is we still use it...
[15:25] Perhaps you could set up a 32-bit machine (or VM) on which to run it.
[15:25] that was what I was thinking...
[15:25] yes, I'll go for that
[15:25] seems fine
[15:26] thank you!
[15:29] hello mathiaz
[15:37] i need to enable Perl-CGI support in apache. I am using Ubuntu 9.04 can someone help me out here ?
[15:40] Anyone know why I'd be getting these errors when trying to mount/fdisk/anything a particular drive: http://pastebin.com/m43ba526e ?
[15:42] G__81: a2enmod perl
[15:42] where should i give that
[15:42] and possibly also a2enmod cgi
[15:42] i followed this
[15:42] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-apache2-webserver-with-phpcgi-and-perl-support-in-ubuntu-server.html
[15:43] but now what i get this
[15:43] error
[15:43] You don't have permission to access /transfer/ on this server.
[15:43] Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[15:43] this is the error i get
[15:43] i have added ScriptAlias in apache2.conf
[15:43] and i get the above error
[15:44] once you've done "sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-perl2"
[15:44] then you need to do "sudo a2enmod perl" in a command line
[15:45] then you also need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[15:45] No.. he has perl modules enabled on Apache... what he needs to do is check his error.log file like a smart debugger would do and see why the webserver is denying his request.
[15:50] G__81: so if perl is setup right, check permissions on that dir (possibly /var/www/transfer ?) and any files in it
[15:51] dirs need to be chmod 755, cgi files are executable scripts, so they also need to to be 755, any other files need to be 644
[15:55] one sec
[15:55] let me check
[15:55] all files have -rwxrwxrwx
[15:56] Have you checked your error.log like I have suggested?
[15:56] sgsax: will 711 work for CGI scripts?
[15:58] jerrcs, let me check the error.log
[15:58] Good idea.
[16:00] http://pastebin.com/m65c40407
[16:00] this is what i have got
[16:01] If you type /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi in your terminal, does it execute?
[16:01] /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi
[16:01] bash: /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi: /usr/local/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[16:03] Type whereis perl and find the correct perl binary, then open up /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi (in nano or something) and change the line at the top of the line to reflect the correct perl path.
[16:03] whereis perl
[16:03] perl: /usr/bin/perl /etc/perl /usr/lib/perl /usr/share/perl /usr/share/man/man1/perl.1.gz
[16:03] default path for perl on ubuntu is /usr/bin/perl
[16:03] ok, so put #!/usr/bin/perl at the top of your book2.cgi file.
[16:03] instead of /usr/local/bin/perl
[16:04] ball: could be, as long as the apache user can execute it
[16:05] * ball nods
[16:05] it does not work still
[16:06] try running it in a console again, see if you get any other useful errors
[16:07] http://pastebin.com/m5304fac5
[16:07] those are the initial lines in the script
[16:07] the script tries to access perl4
[16:08] you need #!/usr/bin/perl
[16:08] you're missing the #
[16:08] i think i have not copied it properly
[16:08] and make sure that is the correct path to cgi-lib.pl
[16:08] its got the #
[16:08] #!/usr/bin/perl
[16:08] # This script creates a HTML document used for booking a system
[16:08] $| = 1;
[16:08] require "/usr/local/lib/perl4/cgi-lib.pl";
[16:09] Run the script again in the console.
[16:10] #!/usr/bin/perl
[16:10] # This script creates a HTML document used for booking a system
[16:10] $| = 1;
[16:10] require "/usr/local/lib/perl4/cgi-lib.pl";
[16:10] oh sorry
[16:10] one sec
[16:10] no.
[16:10] /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi
[16:10] Can't locate /usr/local/lib/perl4/cgi-lib.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /var/www/transfer/book2.cgi line 7.
[16:10] its not able to locate cgi-lib i believe
[16:10] right, so you need to find the correct path for that file
[16:10] gosh, i can't figure out this godamn ldap
[16:10] grr
[16:11] Yep.. you probably have to go through the script install again, or install/locate teh correct modules.
[16:11] sgsax, i dont think i have it i dont have any clue on what that library does
[16:11] is it a standard library ?
[16:11] It actually looks a bit out of date.
[16:11] Considering most people use perl5 now? Why is it trying to load a perl4 lib?
[16:12] its an old script which i should make it run :(
[16:12] regardless, something along the lines of find / | grep cgi-lib.pl might work
[16:12] (might take a couple of minutes to run)
[16:12] locate cgi-lib.pl
[16:12] /usr/share/doc/cscope/contrib/webcscope/cgi-lib.pl.gz
[16:12] this is what i get :)
[16:12] that's probably not going to work.
[16:12] yes
[16:13] Well.. regardless. You're now dealing with old code which probably requires some sort of perl knowledge.. It's out of my league. My apologies.
[16:13] hmmm.
[16:13] We did help you debug CGI errors so if you have any you know where to go now.
[16:13] laters, going out for a bit. sorry I couldn't help more.
[16:15] thanks a lot
[16:15] thanks jerrcs
[16:16] G__81: yep, you'll need to go through the perl code and see what that lib is used for
[16:16] then you'll have to figure out which lib you need to install to make it work
[16:20] Hmm, there's no deb for eAccelerator?
[16:37] Curiousity. We've tried a few things, so far, mostly with re-nicing processes and such.
[16:37] but, we have a server, all it does is run a daemon that runs php and perl scripts all day long, which are communication scripts. Sometimes these scripts start chewing up CPU resources like crazy, but with no control over how much they use up.
[16:37] What would you guys do in a situation where you wanted per-application cpu limits?
[16:37] per pid cpu limits, that is.
[16:38] that's what nice is for
[16:39] Well, nice isn't cutting it.
[16:39] what nice value are you using for the offending process?
[16:39] 15
[16:40] and what kind of resources is this process consuming?
[16:40] do you have a vmstat output from when the process has taken over the box?
[16:41] Hmm, no, but sec, I might be able to now.
[16:42] Yes, what output do you need specifically?
[16:42] running "vmstat 5 5" during the process would be good
[16:42] The server's currently under loads of 10 11 9
[16:42] based on the output of that, we can troubleshoot further
[16:43] Okay, I'm making 2 of those. load jumped up to 20
[16:44] http://pastebin.com/m3ec5263b
[16:44] please paste the output of "ps aux"
[16:45] your idle time is plenty -- load can be very deceiving
[16:45] load average* that is
[16:45] Okay
[16:46] Alright, got it.
[16:47] Didn't want the potential world with that one, so I IM'd it.
[16:47] well you could've pastebined it
[16:47] I did.
[16:47] oh, you did
[16:47] Because pastebin allows me to delete the data, I can do it. :)
[16:48] So, as you see.. A lot of procs. ;)
[16:48] _{PecisDarbs: Does not support keep-alive according to this mailing list thread: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/5057b084a888e676
[16:48] _{err
[16:49] _{wrong channel and nick, sorry
[16:50] Psi-Jack_: how many cores/cpus does this machine have?
[16:50] Dual CPU, Quad Core each, so 8 cores.
[16:50] ok, so that load is NOT a high load
[16:50] and here's why
[16:51] load average is calculated with a rough estimate of 1 = one cpu worth of scheduling
[16:51] so, with an 8 core server, optimal load is 8.0
[16:51] * Psi-Jack_ ndos.
[16:51] so a load of 9 or 10 on a busy box
[16:51] is not bad
[16:51] especially once you see the actual cpu usage
[16:51] * Psi-Jack_ nods.
[16:51] as load average takes into account the number of processes queued up and stuff
[16:52] and you have a TON of processes
[16:52] unless the box is sluggish, this is not an indication of anything wrong
[16:52] Okay.
[16:52] So, what would be considered, a high load?
[16:52] In this case scernario?
[16:52] 16+ maybe
[16:52] would be moderately high
[16:52] Okay.
[16:53] not an emergency
[16:53] it's an equivalent of a 1 core box having a load of 2
[16:53] Then, in Nagios.. It has warnings for the three load states, what would you consider high for the Cur, 1m, 5m?
[16:53] if it's always like that -- then you'd need to take a look at where the bottleneck might be -- but load average doesn't really tell you how taxed your cpu is
[16:53] I figure 16 should be a warning, yeah
[16:54] if it hits 16 regularly -- you'll want to look into the cause
[16:54] 16 in the 5m?
[16:54] Psi-Jack_: sure, 1m or 5m?
[16:54] Gotcha. ;)
[16:54] The 0m can easily be bumped up to ... 8*4
[16:55] That would be a high load of 32
[16:55] 1m you mean?
[16:57] Actually.
[16:57] Just spoke to a coworker of mine.
[16:57] In our case, high load is 8, because if it reaches up to 12, and stays there for any period of time, we start having problems.
[16:58] If it ever reaches 20, kiss that server good bye.
[16:58] heh
[16:58] So, with that knowledge, what's your take?
[16:58] load is not a good indication of that
[16:59] I'd need to see the server when it's sluggish
[16:59] I don't see any high iowait
[16:59] memory speed, etc could be an issue
[16:59] brb
[16:59] it's got 8gb
[17:02] Dell Poweredge 2950, Dual CPU, Quad Core Xeon E5335 (2.00GHz)
[17:03] 64bit of course.
[17:05] Memory-specs, are 8x1GB DDR2 667MHz
[17:05] Non-ECC
[17:07] 8GB of RAM for an 8-core server?
[17:07] kinda skimpy, no?
[17:08] Heh, not really.
[17:08] yeah ... really
[17:08] I don't know why you'd need so much cpu and so little ram
[17:08] I have two-core machines with twice as much ram as you do
[17:09] We never use up all the ram as-is now.
[17:09] There's 2.3GB just sitting there doing nothing.
[17:09] 5.7GN used, 4.6GB of that just buffers & cache.
[17:11] your vmstat says otherwise
[17:11] I'm seeing free ram numbers in the 500MB range
[17:12] which would imply that 7.5GB are used/cached/buffered
[17:12] anyway
[17:12] ram speed can be an issue
[17:12] depending on your needs here
[17:12] you can end up taxing the memory speed, and not the cpu (because 8 cores is a lot)
[17:12] I'd need to see the box when it's fully sressed
[17:13] stressed*
[17:16] Eh? 500mb?
[17:16] Where'd you see that?
[17:16] Oh, yeah. I see now.
[17:28] Heh, aight, I'm home for lunch now. Heh
[17:48] _{I just love how quickly Ubuntu Server and JeOS boot
[17:48] Heh yeah
[17:49] Stack on eBox, and it's so much slower. ;)
[17:53] _{I still have yet to use eBox, I just started hearing of it recently :)
[17:54] ebox is too much
[17:54] its a great concept but the execution needs to be redone
[17:54] like have modules be installed only when you need them, not ahead of time waiting to be configured
[17:55] _{What's the difference between eBox and something like Landscape?
[17:55] that adds extra "weight" on the OS and unnecessary updates
[17:55] _{(I don't use either atm)
[17:55] Umm, They do install when you need them. You tell it when you need them.
[17:55] sub, idk never used landscape
[17:55] landscape, is. Bleh.
[17:55] Faust-C: that's really easy to do
[17:55] Psi-Jack, before it had everything installed and then you configured it when you needed it
[17:55] foolano, i imagine it is, i now have the time to maybe help
[17:56] Faust-C: 1.2, you installed what you wanted, during installation. If you did it by their install CD
[17:56] i was thinking about adding a php module for citadel to shutdown, restart and update the base OS
[17:56] Psi-Jack, oic
[17:57] Faust-C: we changed that in 1.2 cuz there were too many modules
[18:02] yeah
[18:03] foolano, hell now that i have plenty of time on my hand i look forward to being able to help more in some way
[18:04] Faust-C: help is always very welcome :)
[18:04] sometimes its more valuable than $$$
[18:05] mathiaz: Regarding bug #394036, I figured I start testing on edgy,feisty and gutsy. Or are you doing the same? Figured I'd try to avoid dubble work :)
[18:05] Launchpad bug 394036 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "MySQL 5.0.22 Crash on Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS (SELECT 0+0+0...)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394036
[18:08] bdmurray: hey - could smoser be made part of the ubuntu-bugcontrol team?
[18:08] bdmurray: it seems he cannot set the importance on bugs
[18:08] there ya go.
[18:09] andol: I'd start to test on feisty
[18:09] andol: I'm not working on this right now
[18:09] ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [f7076f18] 'on'
[18:09] andol: so you won't do double work
[18:09] I keep getting that constantly on one of my servers.
[18:10] andol: feisty is 5.0.35 IIRC which is in between dapper (5.0.22) and hardy (5.0.51a)
[18:10] I just want it to stop trying, cause it obviously can't. ;)
[18:10] mathiaz: thanks, will do.
[18:10] andol: if feisty doesn't crash, than trying edgy (5.0.24) and hope that edgy doesn't crash either
[18:10] Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu server on a computer with 4 partitions and two disks RAID 0/1 it seems to be hanging on "Configuring makedev" the HDD makes a little noise ever 10 seconds or so but it has been stuck here for at least 10 minutes should i keep waiting or is something wrond?
[18:10] wrong*
[18:10] andol: if so we've already narrowed down the potential revisin
[18:11] I'm using the latest unbuntu server edition btw
[18:16] mathiaz: is smoser familiar with the requirements for being a member? and do you vouch for them?
[18:17] bdmurray: what's the wiki page where the requirements are outlined?
[18:17] mathiaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl ;-)
[18:19] * smoser is reading now
[18:59] can someone help me figure out why my subdomain isn't working
[19:00] <_jmedina> artillerytx: what kind of subdomain?
[19:00] artillerytx: by "my subdomain isn't working" do you mean that it's not resolving to an IP address via DNS, or that you're hosting a webserver with a vhost, and it's not working as you expect?
[19:00] <_jmedina> plase give more details so we can help..
[19:01] i am running bind and apache i have 3 domains hosted 1 of which i am trying to set up a sub domain for ... i have created an A record on wwmcd.org for swot.wwmcd.org and also created a VHOST for swot.wwmcd.org restarted bind and apache and still nothing
[19:01] well did you test that DNS is resolving properly first?
[19:01] with dig?
[19:01] because if swot.wwmcd.org is your domain -- it's not resolving for me
[19:02] sure, or any other utility
[19:02] i can't do it from inside the network
[19:02] why not?
[19:02] the server is on the same network as me
[19:02] <_jmedina> swot.wwmcd.org is not resolving here...
[19:02] but wwmcd.org is working for you correct?
[19:02] artillerytx: why would that prevent you from sending a DNS query? this isn't making sense
[19:03] yes, wwmcd.org has an A record
[19:03] <_jmedina> giovani: probably he is nating...
[19:03] okay when i do dig swot.wwmcd.org i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/256464/
[19:03] _jmedina: why would that prevent him from sending a DNS query?
[19:04] artillerytx: because, as it's shwoing you ... there's no response
[19:04] it's blank
[19:04] there's no "ANSWER SECTION"
[19:04] <_jmedina> :) that is not a problem to me, it depends what dns query tool he is using
[19:04] _jmedina: what?
[19:04] artillerytx: also, you are not the only authoritative DNS server for your domain
[19:05] ns{1,2}.everydns.net.wwmcd.org are as well
[19:05] yeah i set those up as slaves
[19:05] ok
[19:05] <_jmedina> giovani: forget it, I didnt see he was using dig..
[19:05] artillerytx: well they're not propagating
[19:06] oh
[19:06] well your TTL is set very high as well
[19:06] it'll take time for the DNS record to trickle out
[19:06] can i change that ?
[19:07] thats time to live right?
[19:07] sure, but it won't take effect until the next TTL cycle
[19:07] it's set in your bind config
[19:08] <_jmedina> you can use rndc notify from master
[19:08] _jmedina: they still need to trickle down to internet relays
[19:09] So.. what should i do
[19:09] artillerytx: you should wait
[19:10] hi
[19:10] well i've had it set up for like 4 days it worked for one day and then stopped working
[19:10] anyone here using ispconfig 3?
[19:10] artillerytx: well that sounds like a different problem
[19:10] lwizardl: that control panel isn't supported here
[19:11] giovani, ok do they have a channel?
[19:11] giovani, what panel is?
[19:11] google.com
[19:11] lwizardl: ebox
[19:11] and barely at that
[19:12] most people here don't encourage using "web panels"
[19:12] lwizardl: I'd consult their official website to see if they have an irc channel
[19:12] giovani, I have used cpanel and hated that one so i'm testing out others
[19:12] and indeed they do -- shockingly, #ispconfig on freenode
[19:12] lwizardl: yeah, those are all hosting-industry specific, and aren't supplied with ubuntu
[19:13] giovani, that channel is invite only i just got booted from there
[19:14] * You have been kicked from #ispconfig by ChanServ (Invite only channel)
[19:14] lwizardl: for a decent panel try openpanel
[19:14] lwizardl: sounds like an awful project then -- don't use it
[19:14] giovani: what kind of problem do you think it is?
[19:14] artillerytx: no clue -- you should probably understand how DNS works before running a DNS server though
[19:14] it's possible that it's not propagating properly to your slaves, etc
[19:15] alright
[19:15] thanks
[19:18] there really isn't that much to dns servers you add a record and say hey this domain is going to look at this ip address now
[19:19] uh
[19:19] DNS isn't incredibly simple
[19:19] it's got a lot of things going on
[19:19] not even close to being simple
[19:19] maybe thats why its not working i think its too simple
[19:20] did you read all those links i sent you the other day?
[19:20] about rndc
[19:20] i seem to remember sending you a bunch of links on how DNS works as well
[19:20] i know how dns works
[19:20] ok
[19:21] but there is one little thing im missing apparently
[19:21] or else my sub domain would work
[19:21] artillerytx: I don't think that you're familiar with how it works
[19:21] I've walked you through this process before
[19:21] I think others have as well
[19:21] this is not something you grasp fully in an hour
[19:21] i have everything set up correctly
[19:22] go into the domains hosts file add an a record pointing at the ip address
[19:22] set up a virtual host for that domain
[19:22] assuming i have bind set up correctly thats all i have to do
[19:23] assuming ALL of the servers involved in the domain are set up correctly
[19:23] i have 3 domains set up all running fine...
[19:23] which includes wwmcd.org
[19:23] then clearly it's working fine
[19:24] _{umm
[19:24] woah no need for sarcasm
[19:24] _{artillerytx: http://pastebin.com/f63c5bb8b
[19:24] _{take a look at your NS records
[19:27] oops
[19:27] now they are good
[19:28] _{is dns1.longhornpcrepair.com a master or slave? and if it's a slave, what is it a slave to?
[19:28] dns1 should be the master
[19:28] _{have you been updating the serials in your zone?
[19:28] _{serial*
[19:29] alright never heard of that before, What is that?
[19:29] oh boy
[19:29] _{problem solved...
[19:29] <_jmedina> :)
[19:29] _{haha
[19:29] _{ok
[19:29] _{you should read up on DNS more
[19:29] artillerytx: this is why, when you come in here and claim that you've got DNS figured out and that you don't need to learn any more about it
[19:29] we don't believe you
[19:30] No i do need to learn more about it
[19:30] _{and at least at this point, you know that you need to read about some sort of serial
[19:30] but i need to understand in what situation it applies
[19:30] <_jmedina> artillerytx: read about dns fundamentas and you will figure it out
[19:30] _{so I suggest that you learn more about DNS. but at the very least google "dns serial zone file" or something to that effect and blunder your way through it
[19:30] <_jmedina> probably readin BIND ARM
[19:31] _{any introduction to DNS should cover the serial, I'm sure even howstuffworks.com has an article about it
[19:33] _{i take it back, the howstuffworks.com article doesn't mention the serial :P
[19:35] <_jmedina> :), there is the legendary DNS HOWTO
[19:35] <_jmedina> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-5.html
[19:35] _{oh yes
[19:35] <_jmedina> read 5.6 section Slave servers...
[19:35] <_jmedina> artillerytx: well, start reading from the first page
[19:35] hi there
[19:36] hi trying to ssh on a remote server -->i can login and during the browsing of files ans setting i get hangup..already restarted the server and my network..same thing happens..
[19:36] Hi does anyone know how I would cluster 3 rack servers together with ubuntu?
[19:36] Im currently using Ubuntu 9.04 LTSP
[19:36] <_jmedina> 3 rack servers?
[19:36] yep
[19:36] Hp Proliants
[19:36] _{garymc: There are many different types of clustering. How do you mean it?
[19:36] <_jmedina> what wind of cluster?
[19:37] I want to utelise the Hard drives and CPU's
[19:37] as if they where one server?
[19:37] i remember that ubuntu-server asks for automatic updates during the installation
[19:38] ruben23: i would check your logs. you can also start the sshd in the foreground
[19:38] how would i do this??
[19:38] and is it a momoth task?
[19:38] *mamoth
[19:39] pmatulis: what you mean foreground..?
[19:39] ill be checking the remote server logs...?
[19:41] garymc: sounds like you're talking about a beowulf cluster
[19:42] however how can I set it up?
[19:42] which is doable, but not for the newbie
[19:42] ruben23: man sshd and check the '-d' (-dd, -ddd) switch
[19:43] ycy: two ways, either use unattended-upgrades, or script and cron your updates
[19:44] i dont think beowolf is supported in linux
[19:44] so i heard
[19:45] there's a Debian-based Beowulf installation
[19:45] _{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_(computing)#Operating_systems
[19:46] _{Also Knoppix
[19:46] _{That's kind of neat
[19:46] garymc: beowulf is entirely based on linux systems
[19:46] if somebody told you otherwise, they didn't know what they were talking about
[19:46] ok, ive just been told thats too deep for my knowledge
[19:47] I'd recommend against it, if you're just wanting to leverage your computing power
[19:52] alright i read about the serials but im gonna keep reading about it some more before i ask again about dns... i swear !
[19:53] but i ran this named -g -p 53 to check for errors and i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/256481/
[19:53] that can't be good
[19:54] clearly you have a syntax error
[19:54] seems self-explanatory
[19:54] artillerytx: and in your named.conf, not your zone file
[19:55] most specifically, you have two separate options blocks, which is not allowed
[19:59] alright so if i get open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied i need to change the permissions of that file
[20:09] if I have 4GB ram, can I use i386 ubuntu? will it see the whole 4GB ?
[20:10] or do i have install 64bit ?
[20:11] there is a way around the problem, but 64-bit works best with 4 GB or more of RAM.
[20:13] 3GB or more*
[20:13] presuming you have a standard video card, and a standard motherboard
[20:13] hi all! I guess you are all sysadmins here, right? and you do sometimes need to backup operating system or disk drive, so my question is what is the best linux tool to do this job (ala acronis true image) ?
[20:13] i don't know if Ubuntu has a PAE switch like windows does
[20:13] right, thanks.
[20:13] KillMeNow: in the -server kernel, it does
[20:14] svschwartz: different tools are used depending on preference mostly
[20:15] if you enable CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y in your kernel config, you can access 4GB+ RAM with a 32-bit kernel
[20:15] giovani: personaly I know dd and partimage, later one is crap and dd is not smart you know
[20:16] partimage isn't exactly "crap", just out of development and has a few quirks
[20:16] cemc: forget it, use x64
[20:16] sgsax: which, as I said, is default with the -server kernel
[20:16] sgsax: that's exactly what meant :)
[20:16] fsarchiver is the new kid on the block, we've had mixed success with it
[20:16] I have a 32bit ubuntu installed on a system, and I want to move it to another system which has 4gb ram
[20:16] svschwartz: dd is for taking bit-for-bit copies -- this is not usually what people want for a "backup" system
[20:16] can I "upgrade" to 64bit then? :)
[20:17] giovani: yep :)
[20:17] svschwartz: rsync is pretty good at keeping two directories in sync, it's very smart
[20:17] cemc: nope, you'll need to reinstall, because none of the binaries will be compatible
[20:17] cemc: reinstall the os
[20:17] do this over a network -- and you have a backup system
[20:17] cemc: as long as it's a current release of ubuntu, you don't need to reinstall, or move to 64-bit
[20:17] however, you can if you want to
[20:18] giovani: it's hardy
[20:18] ok, I see
[20:18] for backups, we use rdiff-backup
[20:18] giovani: with 2.6.24-24-server
[20:18] which I don't exactly recommend, but it works well enough
[20:19] please tell me if anyone is interested in smart OS/drive/partition backup
[20:19] svschwartz: what do you mean?
[20:19] we already have that ...
[20:19] bacula
[20:19] web based backup utility
[20:19] can it restore MBR ?
[20:20] partition table ?
[20:20] you want disk imaging, not backups
[20:20] svschwartz: if you want it too ... that's what dd is for
[20:20] sgsax: yes, sorry
[20:20] use dd to copy the first 512Bytes of the drive
[20:20] use partimage to get an image of the partitions
[20:21] you can use dd for that as well
[20:21] pipe it through gzip to eliminate the zeros space
[20:21] boot to a livecd, partition the new disk, pull your image(s) down, and install grub
[20:21] I want to share my expirience with disk imaging tool called... partimage-ng :)
[20:22] I'm boring. my disk image tool is dd :)
[20:22] partimage-ng is really smart
[20:23] it does save MBR, partition table and blocks that are used, works with ext2/3, ntfs, vfat
[20:24] I wonder why it is not in main? it whould be great to have it out of the box with live cd to backup or restore drives
[20:25] * _jmedina uses clonezilla livecd which uses partimage and other tools
[20:25] svschwartz: the ubuntu livecd is a desktop livecd -- it's not built for recovery
[20:26] use a dedicated recovery livecd for that -- plenty exist
[20:26] <_jmedina> there is a clonezilla livecd based on ubuntu :)
[20:26] <_jmedina> the alternate livecd
[20:26] dedicated recovery cds have more tools for more tasks though
[20:26] no way, I whould love to have "Ubuntu Rescure" with me everywere :)
[20:26] since they're focused on that niche
[20:27] you see I don't need or want to have a dedicated live cd just for one small tool
[20:28] svschwartz: I'm not suggesting anything of the sort
[20:28] and one more thing, ubuntu does ship parted and gparted, which is really handy
[20:28] recovery livecds may have hundreds of tools
[20:28] like dd :)
[20:28] like hundreds of tools
[20:28] ok, I see, no interest
[20:29] thanks anyway
[20:30] I've tried a couple of different ways to get my rndc to work...i kept getting errors but now when i restart bind i get rndc: get: not found
[20:31] svschwartz: so are you working on partimage-ng, or just like it?
[20:31] recommendations for remote desktop, (no VNC its too laggy)
[20:31] Faust-C: xdmcp
[20:31] sgsax, oh yeah lol
[20:31] :)
[20:32] hmm i might intergrate that into my services
[20:32] cause i want to migrate clients to linux and provide remote support
[20:32] koo
[20:32] Faust-C: http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
[20:32] Is there a heartbeat guide for Ubuntu?
[20:32] 8.04 and/or 9.04?
[20:33] sgsax: I don't right code for it, but I do use it and used to talk to original developer at early stage of project
[20:33] henkjan, oh nice
[20:33] artillerytx: you don't really need to use rndc manually
[20:33] sgsax: write :)
[20:33] sorry
[20:34] edit your config and zone files properly and just /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[20:34] sgsax: well everytime i do rndc-confgen -> rndc.conf and then restart bind it just hangs
[20:34] but it sounds like you still don't grok the fundamentals of how bind works
[20:35] I'm just trying to fix one thing at a time
[20:35] thats how i learn
[20:35] Hi. I'm using vsftpd. Does anyone know why I can
[20:35] not deleate folders wile logging on as loval user.
[20:35] local*
[20:36] svschwartz: it looks promising, but their sf page is a bit bare, and their new wiki is empty, so it doesn't really instill a lot of confidence
[20:36] rndc is a tool that is supposed to make maintining your named.conf and zone files easier
[20:36] sgsax: it is much closer :) https://launchpad.net/partimage-ng
[20:36] but it won't help if you don't know what to do with them
[20:37] svschwartz: I did see that
[20:37] sgsax: and code on lp too
[20:37] sgsa: sf page is too old, forget it
[20:37] Anyone?
[20:37] artillerytx: seriously, do yourself a favor and get the O'Reilly "DNS & Bind" book
[20:38] svschwartz, I make backups with tar
[20:38] if I need something more complicated I usually create a bash script for it
[20:38] Albatross: I don't understand your question
[20:39] qman__ : well I do actually use tar, gzip, bzip2, rsync, but non of them can really make drive image
[20:39] no way
[20:40] svschwartz: no "stable" release yet?
[20:43] sgsax: I guess the author just does not know when to call it "stable" and make a release :)
[20:44] or maybe he just didn't need it, because nobody actually asked for that
[20:45] it works for me, so I guess it is stable enough
[20:45] they don't have .deb packages?
[20:45] there used to be a ppa, but looks outdated now
[20:46] kirkland: do you plan to provide a hardy backport of your new kvm-qemu package?
[20:49] svschwartz, I use dd for disk images, usually piped to gzip or bzip2
[20:50] it's not the fastest method but it works
[20:51] Albatross, it's probably a permissions problem
[20:52] if the user doesn't own the folder, that's probably it
[20:52] if the sticky bit is set, a user can't delete anything he doesn't own
[20:52] qman__ : yes, it does, surely, but that is not the of samurai ;)
[20:52] if not, you still need write access
[20:53] svschwartz: I'm intrigued, as I've been using partimage for a long time, warts and all
[20:53] I've used partimage plenty of times
[20:53] the interface is just too clunky for me
[20:53] sgsax: on jaunty or lenny please build from this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~gene-czarc/partimage-ng/devel-gc1
[20:54] sgsax: partimage-ng has only one word to share with partimage :) the code is written from scratch
[20:55] the last time I needed to clone some disks, I piped dd to gzip to netcat
[20:55] and then did the reverse on a number of clients
[20:57] qman__ : remember that every I/O call makes your drive closer to crash/bad blocks etc :)
[21:00] thanks for your time guys, bye
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[21:17] sgsax: While connecting via ftp i can only remove files. The folders remain.
[21:18] so you need to know how to remove directories?
[21:18] it's been a while since I've used ftp, but shouldn't "rmdir" work?
[21:19] sgsax: It shoud, but it doesnt..
[21:19] sgsax: What do you use, then? Something better than ftp? I'm kinda newbie..
[21:20] scp
[21:20] no interactive shell like ftp, but is secure (runs over ssl)
[21:20] SSL? Are you mad?
[21:20] aah. Well, as newbie i need the interface.. ^^
[21:21] Albatross, No you don't.
[21:21] Psi-Jack_: I know, it's crazy :)
[21:21] bash is a perfectly good interface.
[21:21] Albatross: do you have shell access on the remote server?
[21:21] yes.
[21:21] My own server..
[21:22] so use scp to upload files, and ssh in to server to remove files/dirs
[21:22] Or just run ssh servername commands
[21:22] scp /my/local/file user@remote.host.org:/remote/path/to/file
[21:22] srverame commands?
[21:22] ^^ that's your masic syntax
[21:23] ssh myusername@myserver.com rm /some/file
[21:23] oh. hold your horses. Mu server is ubuntu, but my client is windows..
[21:24] Albatross: in that case, get WinSCP
[21:24] Then yeah, you'd have to ssh in using putty.
[21:24] nice UI and everything :)
[21:24] Or get winxmp.
[21:24] winscp even
[21:24] * Psi-Jack_ shrugs.
[21:24] I don't even use Windows, so I don't care to support it.
[21:24] or just use sftp
[21:24] which is exactly like ftp, only it uses openssh to connect
[21:25] ok. will look into them. thanks for the tip.
[21:25] Psi-Jack: Well, in sweden you have no choice really.. Everything os so microsoftified tou have to use the crap.
[21:26] everything?
[21:26] as in what?
[21:26] Albatross, You ALWAYS have a choice.
[21:26] there's very little that won't work on linux
[21:27] poorly written sites for IE6 fall under that category
[21:27] Correct. I have a coice, but i'm lazy. I'm satisfied to know wich is best.. ^^
[21:27] qman__, Not entirely true, Now you can even view those using wine installed IE6
[21:28] I'll have to try that
[21:28] heh
[21:28] I have to support some DVR software that only works with IE6
[21:28] and some ATM software too
[21:28] wine-doors, or playonlinux, installs it perfectly.
[21:29] uses activex heavily
[21:30] for anyone in the market, don't buy a GeoVision system
[21:31] it's completely locked to windows
[21:32] Heh
[21:32] GeoVision, eh?
[21:32] yeah, I wasn't the one who shopped around for it
[21:32] I did a google search for Geovision, and the first thing I saw was "Don't Buy a Geovision DVR"
[21:33] it works okay, but the software is just...awful
[21:33] Digital Video Surveilance stuff?
[21:34] and the documentation is worse
[21:34] yeah, security cameras
[21:35] I found out later I could have gotten linux friendly cards with better framerates for less
[21:35] bluecherry I think it is?
[21:36] Yep
[21:37] being stuck on windows wouldn't be so bad if their software was any good, but it just isn't
[21:38] there's about 15 different programs and the documentation doesn
[21:38] any lvm experts in here?
[21:38] doesn't tell you which one you need
[21:38] what about lvm?
[21:39] I know a little about lvm, but I wouldn't say I'm an expert
[21:39] subordinate accidentally reinstalled a machine and didn't realize the data partition was lvm
[21:39] Shoot him in the foot.
[21:39] so he left the partition intact, but we're unable to recover access to the partition
[21:40] was hoping somebody might know some tricks
[21:40] there was a thing on the ubuntu RSS that taught about having a mobile LVM
[21:40] might be of some help, let me find the link
[21:40] Okay, well, left the partition in-tact, but what about the data on it?
[21:41] that's the thing, we can't mount it to see
[21:41] http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/pthree/~3/QVdy_bclMuE/
[21:41] pvscan, vgscan, lvscan all come up empty
[21:41] hmm
[21:41] sgsax, Then obviously, it's destroyed.
[21:41] link doesn't seem to be working for me
[21:42] yeah
[21:42] if those don't come up with anything it's gone
[21:42] Yep
[21:42] even tried vgchange -ay, still no luck
[21:42] damn
[21:43] Well, if none of the scans worked, it's gone.
[22:25] [ 115.340885] ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [f7076f18] 'on'
[22:26] I keep getting that, even though I put blacklist fan in my modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:38] Psi-Jack, wooohoooo
[22:38] got finally DNS up and running
[22:38] weeeee
[22:38] Psi-Jack: Why have you blacklisted fan?
[22:39] jpds: That's one of the "fixes" the forums suggested.
[22:40] I'm trying the /etc/defaults/acpid idea now, and omitting fan from the modules.
[22:41] Nope.
[22:41] Still occuring. :/
[22:42] [ 49.340936] ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [f7076f18] 'on'
[22:55] So, any ideas?
[23:00] Hi. I am trying to set up a ircd-hybrid server on my ubuntu server.
[23:00] But I have some problems.
[23:01] When I typed sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid to get it, I got this error when it tried to start it after installing: http://pastebin.com/m492725b5
[23:01] Also, I have no ircd.conf anywhere
[23:02] can some1 please help me out with LDAP authentification
[23:02] zagabar1: did you try "dpkg-reconfigure ircd-hybrid"
[23:02] I am still unable to reach my server
[23:03] sgsax: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: ircd-hybrid is broken or not fully installed
[23:03] i am constantly asked for a password, and the one i supplied during installation does not work
[23:03] active[0]: -266 C: devices= FAN
[23:04] passive: -248 C: tc1=4 tc2=3 tsp=60 devices=CPU0
[23:04] try removing it and then reinstalling it, sounds like the install failed partway through
[23:04] Goodie.. -266 C!
[23:04] Psi-Jack_: that's one cold machine
[23:04] Heh
[23:04] I wish!
[23:04] It's actually at 39 C currently.
[23:05] sgsax: I already tried that twice. Maybe it doesn't remove everything when I type apt-get remove?
[23:05] possibly not
[23:05] That's just the trips, to make the fan come on tillit REACHES -266
[23:05] try apt-get purge
[23:05] tha should wipe any remnants away
[23:06] Psi-Jack_: perhaps your sensors just have lousy drivers
[23:06] Well, that's a given.
[23:06] sgsax: http://pastebin.com/m140c1c70
[23:06] But it's annoying as heck, because every 6 seconds, I see it trying to turn on the fan, but can't.
[23:06] Filling my logfiles (and consequently, database where syslog also logs to)
[23:06] zagabar1: you need to include the package name "apt-get purge ircd-hybrid"
[23:09] unfortunately
[23:09] CPU Temp | 32.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | 76.000 | 78.000 | 80.000
[23:09] Sys Temp | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | 76.000 | 78.000 | 80.000
[23:09] sgsax: http://pastebin.com/m2e9b741a
[23:09] It still troubles when it is installed.
[23:11] looks like the package may be broken, did you check in launchpad if this is a known bug?
[23:11] Nope. I don't even know what launchpad is. xP
[23:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ircd-hybrid/+bug/230168
[23:12] Launchpad bug 230168 in ircd-hybrid "package ircd-hybrid 1:7.2.2.dfsg.2-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:12] reported in May, 2008
[23:12] I'd suggest trying a different ircd
[23:13] I see. Do you know of a good one?
[23:13] how can I set ubuntu-server to automatically install software updates?
[23:14] ycy: you see my earlier response?
[23:16] sgsax: have you got a minute to tell me *how* you found that bug so fast - I'm a bit clumsy around launchpad?
[23:17] guntbert: I just searched for the package name
[23:17] that bug was the first hit
[23:17] just got lucky :)
[23:19] sgsax: I see, thx :-)
[23:21] ycy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=855299
[23:23] ycy: this also works
[23:23] DEBIAN_FRONTEND='noninteractive' /usr/bin/apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade
[23:23] think it does basically what the unattended-upgrades does
[23:24] but on a per-instance basis and not a permanent system-wide basis
[23:24] sgsax: i don't, sorry
[23:24] sgsax: i have to use unattended-upgrades ?
[23:25] that's one option
[23:25] the other is the command I listed above
[23:25] is that installed by default on ubuntu ?
[23:25] nope
[23:25] all right
[23:25] thank you
[23:25] does unattend-upgrades also upgrade kernel or only upgrades that don't require a reboot?
[23:25] it's a metapackage that modifies configs in /etc/apt/conf.d
[23:28] not sure what else it does to actually run the updates
[23:30] I guess /etc/cron.daily/apt runs and when unattended-upgrades is set, it does the work
[23:30] I run the command I pasted from cfengine so I get a report emailed to me when it's done
[23:31] note I only do this on desktops, not servers
[23:51] help any1 :D?
[23:51] totally lost here with the damn LDAP
[23:52] cannot get in, not even from the machine itself
[23:52] <_jmedina> clusty: what is the problem?
[23:53] _jmedina, well installed slapd
[23:53] <_jmedina> what distro, what slapd version?
[23:53] <_jmedina> details please
[23:53] and whenever i try to query for anything i am asked for passoword
[23:54] and i get denied
[23:54] second
[23:54] <_jmedina> show command output
[23:55] vlazar@algorithmica:~/ldap$ ldapadd -x -W -D "cn=admin,dc=debuntu,dc=local" -f people_group.ldif
[23:55] Enter LDAP Password:
[23:55] ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[23:55] http://pastebin.com/m312f8f71 < getting some errors when I try to mount a drive.. can anyone help?
[23:56] <_jmedina> clusty: so, what version?
[23:56] _jmedina, sec lemme find out the command for package version :D
[23:56] <_jmedina> dpkg -l slapd
[23:57] 2.4.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.3
[23:57] apt-cache policy slapd
[23:57] is what i did
[23:57] <_jmedina> what ubuntu vesion?
[23:58] hardy
[23:58] 8.04
[23:58] <_jmedina> usb disks sucks
[23:58] jerrcs, your disk in good shape?
[23:59] jerrcs, or got ran over by an elephant ? :D
[23:59] <_jmedina> bad cable....
[23:59] nah.. should be good.. I just had this server set up a month ago.
[23:59] the drive has been working fine during the time.. after I rebooted it's been odd}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}