[00:00] <sumo_su> isnt a tiny bit of cooruption normal?
[00:00] <Psi-Jack> To do this easily, just telinit 1, this will cut your network off too.
[00:00] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: No
[00:00] <Psi-Jack> Corruption could be caused by a few things.
[00:00] <sumo_su> ok i'll google how to do that
[00:01] <Psi-Jack> Bad cabling, bad drive, or bad hdd controller.
[00:01] <Psi-Jack> Or lastly.
[00:01] <Psi-Jack> Bad filesystem.
[00:01] <Psi-Jack> I wouldn't touch ext4 with a 10-foot pole, personally.
[00:01] <sumo_su> on ntfs i'm used to have something like 2 corrupted file per year or so
[00:01] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx: Well?
[00:01] <sumo_su> Psi-Jack: ok no worries. no important data on the ext4
[00:02] <Psi-Jack> Realy?
[00:02] <Psi-Jack> Like mount.ntfs-3g isn
[00:02] <sumo_su> hrhr yea sure...
[00:02] <Psi-Jack> Like mount.ntfs-3g isn't important to you, or most all of your software you run?
[00:03] <sumo_su> i thought ext4 was mature enough to install a linux to play with
[00:03] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx: I will assume you do not need help if you do not speak up soon.
[00:03] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: ext3 is stable. ext4 went out of beta only a few months ago.
[00:03] <Psi-Jack> sumo_su: I personally only use ext3 for boot, and XFS for everything else.
[00:03] <sumo_su> i see
[00:04] <sumo_su> can i roll back to ext4?
[00:04] <sumo_su> ext3
[00:04] <Psi-Jack> Unfortunately. No
[00:04] <Psi-Jack> It's not backwards compatible, only forwards compatible.
[00:04] <sumo_su> ok. well it has to stay till 9.10 i guess
[00:05] <Psi-Jack> Up to you.
[00:05] <Psi-Jack> Brace yourself for more potential problems like this though.
[00:06] <sumo_su> i bet i wreck the installation by fooling around before ext4 kills it
[00:06] <Psi-Jack> Did you originally make it ext3 and then start mounting it as ext4?
[00:07] <Psi-Jack> QuantumKaos: Just to say, 'I told you so." ;)
[00:08] <sumo_su> Psi-Jack: hmm i dont remember precisely... i selected it in some dropdown in the istallation process
[00:08] <Psi-Jack> Oh then no.
[00:09] <Pavel_> can anyone help me with a plasma theme problem? (9.04/4.3)
[00:10] <QuantumKaos> Psi-Jack: just to say, u didnt solve up his prob, its going to reappear for sure cuz u didnt solve it at all, u put a patch on it, u temporarly solved it but this is not how its supposed to be
[00:11] <Psi-Jack> The problem he won't solve, the problem is filesystem corruption.
[00:11] <QuantumKaos> now i really have to go
[00:11] <Psi-Jack> That's the difference.
[00:11] <QuantumKaos> sumo_su: before to reboot, put back ur old fstab, but keep the one corrected by me and try it out if the problem reappears, and im telling u, it will
[00:12] <QuantumKaos> cu guys ;)
[00:12] <sumo_su> cu QuantumKaos
[00:12] <Psi-Jack> ifco
[00:19] <Pavel_> whenever I use the 'get new themes' option in desktop settings, nothing of the theme really applies except
[00:19] <Pavel_> for a mild color change in the plasma bars.
[00:19] <Pavel_> ie glassified is just plain black.
[00:33] <avihayb> Any easy way to install kde3 in kubuntu?
[00:35] <bazhang> !kde3 | avihayb
[00:36] <avihayb> thanks ubottu
[00:36] <avihayb> (and you too bazhang)
[00:57] <VoipJunky> I am liking dropbox on linux
[00:58] <VoipJunky> makes it easir to move files from desktop to laptop
[01:01] <xsebsx_> Psi-Jack: sorry, computer got mightily stuck, you still there?
[01:01] <Psi-Jack> Yep
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: dropbox?
[01:02] <VoipJunky> yeah dropbox.com
[01:02] <VoipJunky> food app
[01:02] <Mist__> How do I get to look inside /boot/ on harddrive if I upgraded and grub tells me it cannot find the file for the kernel under /boot ? ^^
[01:02] <VoipJunky> you get 2 gig of online storage and you can give friend links to files
[01:02] <Mist__> and thus not boot ....
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: Just 2gb? That's it?
[01:03] <VoipJunky> you can earn more by refering friends
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: I got a better one. I'm getting 25 gb, and a full-scale "Web Operating System".
[01:03] <VoipJunky> upto 32 gig
[01:04] <VoipJunky> but this is free
[01:04] <VoipJunky> ost you nothing
[01:04] <xsebsx_> ok, well here's the deal Psi-Jack, I have a sony ericsson w595 phone, on my other computer, the pc, i have harrdy and it works just fine when i plug the phone it detects it, but i recently installed jaunty on my laptop and it ddoesn't automatically mount the usb phonecard connection, so i went to this website http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975622&page=3 and it downloaded the tar files as instructed but then after that i got stuck, can you he
[01:04] <xsebsx_> lp me
[01:04] <VoipJunky> ost/cost
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: Exactly, mine's free too, and you start with 15gb free
[01:04] <VoipJunky> who and where url ?
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> http://g.ho.st/
[01:05] <smocc> Ark does not extract rar files under any circumstances. (Neither via context menu nor inside Ark itself) - Unrar is installed to /usr/bin/unrar and /usr/bin/ is in my $PATH, what could be the problem?
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: If you sign up, two two things, 1> refer erenfro as the referal, and the promo code, use launch
[01:06] <VoipJunky> doe it have a desktop app or do you have to login to the url everytime ?
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: It can remember you every time you go there, so a simple click and go.
[01:07] <xsebsx_> Psi-Jack: I think I'm doing something wrong regarding where to download the files to, and how to copy them
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx_: Hmmm... Sony? Sorry. Anything Sony, I will not ever provide any kind of support for.
[01:07] <xsebsx_> no no
[01:07] <xsebsx_> read the thread
[01:07] <xsebsx_> it's already detected by the system but it's not automatically mounted
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx_: Yes yes.. Sony Ericson phone. I hear ya..
[01:07] <VoipJunky> ahh well dropbox is a app that runs on you system
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx_: It's a Sony product, and I refuse to help anything in regards to Sony, period. Sony is a company that needs to die.
[01:08] <VoipJunky> you dont have to use a web browser
[01:08] <xsebsx_> the solution is already there on that htread but i don't know how to implement it
[01:08] <VoipJunky> but I will look into this
[01:08] <xsebsx_> forget about the sony side of things
[01:08] <xsebsx_> thisis an ubuntu to cellphone problem
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: Yeah, I'm already up to 35gb. ;) If you sign up, and refer me, I'll get 40gb ;)
[01:08] <xsebsx_> it hasn't happend only with sony
[01:08] <xsebsx_> read the thread please
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> xsebsx_: It's a Sony product.
[01:09] <xsebsx_> i truly need help
[01:09] <xsebsx_> it has nothing to do with sony it has to do with ubuntu not deteecting phonecards from several different phones
[01:09] <xsebsx_> all i need is to get this to automatically mount the device
[01:09] <VoipJunky> well if this was a xtem I could see running this
[01:13] <Psi-Jack> VoipJunky: Okay.. So, it's getdropbox.com not just dropbox.com
[01:13] <VoipJunky> ok sorry
[01:13] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_: which phone? I just came into the channel
[01:13] <heinkel_111> so i did not see the start of your conversation
[01:13] <VoipJunky> ilike the vpc idea
[01:14] <heinkel_111> i got a sony ericsson c702
[01:14] <VoipJunky> hmmm
[01:14] <Psi-Jack> UIgh
[01:14] <heinkel_111> and although it is 'unsupported' i am a little surprised at what i can do with it
[01:14] <Psi-Jack> It depends on nautilus?
[01:14] <Psi-Jack> Bleh.
[01:14] <Psi-Jack> Not for me. ;)
[01:14] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_:
[01:15] <xsebsx_> heinkel_111: HELP!!!: I am getting the following problem, when I plug in my cellphone to the laptop which has jaunty on it, the system will not detect the USB connection or to be more specific it won't mount it automatically, i typed lspci and this showed up: Bus 001 Device 014: ID 0fce:e0f3 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB so it means it does see it but ti doesn't automatically mount it, so i did some research and i found there's a fix for the
[01:15] <xsebsx_> problem, on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975622&page=3 it says i have to download osme tar files and copy them in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but i don't know how to do that,
[01:15] <xsebsx_> i don't know where to download it, once i have the tar files what to do iwth them, should i click on them and drag and drop the text executables onto some other folder or what?
[01:16] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:27] <heinkel_111> but my phone behaves very different when i power it off before plugging it into the computer
[01:28] <Guest88707> can someone tell me how to install themes for xubuntu 8.04
[01:29] <Guest88707> i mean kubuntu 8.04
[01:29] <xsebsx_> heinkel_111: can you help me?
[01:29] <carl_> how do u get wireless working? sick of using ethernet on my netbook. having visions of  xp
[01:29] <binskipy2u> anyone here have experience installing kubuntu 4.3.0 from command line, for a "minimal" install from the command line
[01:30] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_: i still dont know exactly what it is you want to do and with what phone so i cannot say for sure yet....
[01:30] <xsebsx_> did you read the thread? heinkel_111?
[01:30] <VoipJunky> okback ltr coding to finish
[01:30] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_: i only note that i experienced the same as you with my Sony Ericsson phone a while back but there are workarounds for most things
[01:31] <carl_> it shows my network wont take the pw  and connect
[01:31] <carl_> have verizon dsl
[01:34] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_: i read the thread now...
[01:36] <xsebsx_> heinkel_111: can you tell me if i succesfully copied those two files to the desired folder? http://pastebin.ca/1537126
[01:39] <xsebsx_> heinkel_111: i just checked and it seems like it did copy the files on there
[01:39] <xsebsx_> i am going to try and reboot and see if it works brb
[01:40] <heinkel_111> xsebsx_: i did not apply that fix,  so i dont have personal experience to contribute
[01:40] <heinkel_111> i found ways to work with my phone
[01:40] <heinkel_111> without the fix
[01:42] <arash> hi ! i am trying to install firefox over my Kubuntu and there are millions of  ways to do it as i searched.
[01:42] <arash> what is your suggestion ? I want to install it fast
[01:42] <bazhang> arash, 3.5?
[01:43] <arash> yes 3.5
[01:43] <bazhang> !ff35 > arash
[01:43] <arash> i want it to be registered and default browser
[01:43] <bazhang> arash, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[01:43] <bazhang> arash, it will show up as shiretoko
[01:44] <arash> bazhang , what is shiretoko ?
[01:45] <arash> and when i open packet manager and search for firefoz there are tons there,but i simply dont know which to install
[01:45] <bazhang> firefox-3.5
[01:45] <arash> your command i entered, and it says it needs to dowwnload 75 mB!
[01:46] <xsebsx> heinkel_111: can you help me mount the phone?
[01:46] <arash> there is not a simple firefox-3.5 , there are many with different endings
[01:47] <heinkel_111> xsebx which phone, precisely?
[01:47] <heinkel_111> model?
[01:47] <heinkel_111> is it similar to mine?
[01:47] <xsebsx> its a sony ericsson
[01:47] <BluesKaj> bazhang, no it's officially called FF3.5 now
[01:47] <xsebsx> w595
[01:48] <bazhang> BluesKaj, apt-cache search shows firefox-3.5
[01:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , i was using the initials
[01:49] <heinkel_111> xsebsx: did you try to turn it off and then connect it with usb?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> shiretoko is no more . that's what i mean
[01:50] <heinkel_111> xsebx, when my phone was new i could not mount it but the problem was fixed in a subsequent update
[01:50] <bazhang> still have shiretoko in my apps menu, that is odd
[01:50] <heinkel_111> of the kernel i belive..
[01:50] <heinkel_111> xsebsx: uname -r
[01:50] <xsebsx> let me try that heinkel_111
[01:51] <Lord_Drachenblut> on my 9.04 box firefox3.5 still shows up at shiretoko
[01:51] <xsebsx> heinkel_111: I liebe dich
[01:51] <xsebsx> ich*
[01:51] <mathay> Lord_Drachenblut: I have the same issue.
[01:52] <mathay> Lord_Drachenblut: I haven't done much research into it though. I'll check it out.
[01:52] <heinkel_111> xsebx... when i plug the phone i need to select mode on the phone
[01:52] <BluesKaj> bazhang, have you done any updates lately ? :)
[01:52] <bazhang> BluesKaj, like clockwork :)
[01:52] <Lord_Drachenblut> i don't think 3.5 is official for *buntu untill 9.10 but i could be mistaken
[01:53] <mathay> Lord_Drachenblut: that is correct. It's still in the repos though.
[01:54] <BluesKaj> dump the FF repos if you have it and reinstall FF
[01:54] <heinkel_111> xsebsx mass storage mode mounts the phone and the memory card on the phone as two separate usb entities for me
[01:54] <mathay> Lord_Drachenblut: this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7768729&postcount=23
[01:54] <mathay> I may do that too.
[01:55] <xsebsx> heinkel_111: yes
[01:56] <heinkel_111> xsebx ... does it work the same way for you
[01:56] <heinkel_111> ?
[01:56] <xsebsx> heinkel_111: yes it worked
[01:57] <heinkel_111> good :D
[01:57]  * heinkel_111 gets a cup of tea
[02:04] <e370> coffee plz
[02:04] <e370> 3 sugars
[02:13] <ritztech> anyone kno of a good program like dreamweaver in windows
[02:18] <wirechief_> ritztech have you tried running any programs like dreamweaver in wine ?
[02:24] <naziara_> ?
[03:32] <Guest2621> konichiwa
[03:55] <Guest55287> how can i make firefox start maximized?
[04:13] <ussher> ive got an irregularity after an upgrade to Jaunty.  mapping the 'back' and 'forward' keyboard keys to switch desktops works on the main PC but not on the laptop which is connected through SSH and X2X
[04:14] <ussher> the back and forward keys seam to pick a desktop at random and jump to it, then jump away straight away
[04:14] <ussher> I get a madd light show of flickering desktops before it settles on one
[04:15] <ussher> the native 'back' and 'forward' keys on the laptop work as expected and change desktops normally.
[04:15] <ussher> where could i start looking for why?
[04:18] <ussher> the x2x command to connect the 2 pc's running is:  ssh -XC username@192.168.11.2  x2x -south -to :0.0
[04:18] <coreyman> I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces and what is the broadcast and network switch? I'm not sure what to put here, I know what my gateway is, I know what my netmask is, and i know the static ip i want to assign it. I'm asking because i was ssh'ing into the box and now I can't access it via the ip I assigned it.
[04:22] <Guest55287> firefox looks different when i run it using sudo
[04:22] <Guest55287> heh
[04:22] <Guest55287> ?
[04:22] <coreyman> you aren't supposed to run graphical programs with sudo
[04:22] <coreyman> try kdesu
[04:23] <Guest55287> i know
[04:23] <Guest55287> i just wanted to see if it would remember my maximized window
[04:34] <MehmetAli> hello. I am just starting linux and decided kubuntu. its downloading now. I choosed 64bit ver insteadof 386.. my question: does this make performance increase?
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> It might, but probably not enough to be very noticeable
[04:35] <MehmetAli> so what is the advantage of 64?
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have more than 4 GB of memory, since that's pretty much the limit for 32-bit
[04:37] <MehmetAli> oh.. I remembered that I  heard this. so under 4gb ram no point to use x64.. but its almost %50, so i wont cancel and turn 32. hoprfully wont have an issue.
[04:37] <zuz_> anyone recomend an ftp program for kubuntu?
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> There used to be a problem with Flash not having a 64-bit version, but there may be one now
[04:40] <Dragnslcr> zuz_- Dolphin can do FTP
[04:41] <Dragnslcr> MehmetAli- pretty sure there is an amd64 package for Flash now. The bot says there is, but for some reason packages.ubuntu.com isn't working for me
[04:42] <zuz_> oh yeah? cool ill try that
[04:42] <MehmetAli> also I am new those KDE GNOME. and just learned ubuntu and KBUNTU.. are they only graphical differencies or.. their package system is different too... ?
[04:45] <coreyman> mehmetali they come with a few different packages like programs specific to kde and programs specific to gnome
[04:46] <Dragnslcr> MehmetAli- they use the same repositories, and KDE can run Gnome programs (Gnome can run KDE programs too), so it's more or less just graphical differences
[04:47] <MehmetAli> oh i see.. thanks for answering im so excited cant wait to kill windows 2nite:)
[04:48] <coreyman> Would someone that knows something about raid 1 arrays please message me.
[05:16] <Woosta> I have my screen resolution set, but how can I define the physical screen size?
[06:13] <arash> hi all , i want to edit my sources.list file whichi is in root/etc/apt . I can edit but it doesnt let me save the edits .HOw should I get the permission to do that?
[06:14] <arash> i forgot to say,I am using Kubuntu 9.04
[06:19] <ussher> arash: you will need to edit it with root permissions
[06:19] <ussher> arash: so something like sudo nano /etc/.....
[06:20] <ussher> arash: how are you editing it? with a graphical editor?
[06:20] <arash> yes i open it with Kate , edit it and when try to save and close it it does not allow
[06:21] <ussher> open a konsole terminal SYSTEM->KONSOLE TERMINAL
[06:21] <ussher> arash: sthen type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <faruk> hello , how can i clean the dragon player history
[06:22] <ussher> arash: this will then ask you for your password and you will be editing it as the root user
[06:22] <arash> thanks ussher , let me try it..
[06:23] <ussher> arash: in nano hit ctrl+o to save the document and ctrl+x to exit
[06:24] <arash> thank so much , it works!
[06:24] <ussher> arash: great.
[06:35] <faruk> ok ok i found, right click and clear list
[06:41] <bhabalinux> hello
[06:52] <ussher> bhabalinux: hello
[06:52] <bhabalinux> is there anyway, I could set up dsl dialup in Kubuntu like in Windows?
[06:53] <bhabalinux> Hello ussher
[06:53] <ussher> bhabalinux: how is it set up in windows?
[06:54] <bhabalinux> I mean you have a connection setup and every time you want to connect to internet, you just use that connection..
[06:55] <bhabalinux> in kubuntu, I have to go through sudo pppoeconf and i get connected after several tries
[06:56] <ussher> bhabalinux: i set up my internet connection a couple of years ago now and havent had to think about it since, it just works.  probably cant help sorry
[06:57] <bhabalinux> ok
[06:58] <bhabalinux> thanks
[06:58] <bhabalinux> did you do it through terminal?
[06:59] <ussher> bhabalinux: as a thought could you put the connection details into a router then connect to the router through a lan, then the Lan could automatically come online when kubuntu does.
[07:00] <ussher> bhabalinux: if i had to do it again i would look at INTERNET->KPPP INTERNET DIAL UP TOOL
[07:01] <ussher> bhabalinux: it looks like it can store accounts with passwords etc.
[07:03] <bhabalinux> I couldn't do it using kpp
[07:25] <linuxson25> Hi everyone
[07:26] <linuxson25> Recently switched to the KDE desktop environment. Looks really cool
[07:26] <linuxson25> Messed up my taskbar a bit....there anyway I can set it back to default, or restore it?
[07:27] <bhabalinux1> rightclick taskbar and settings
[07:28] <linuxson25> Had a look there, but it only gives you options to move and resize stuff. I closed a minimized window of a program I was running, and evrything just shifted to the left
[07:28] <linuxson25> And now the whole taskbar is filled
[07:28] <linuxson25> Or should I just close it, and create a new one?
[07:29] <bhabalinux1> yo can drag the bars around
[07:29] <bhabalinux1> what can you see in the taskbar?
[07:29] <bhabalinux1> sys tray or something else
[07:29] <linuxson25> But still I cant resize the items that are on the bar to make them smaller, so that they all fit the right side of it
[07:30] <linuxson25> The sys tray, and some other stuff
[07:30] <bhabalinux1> right click
[07:30] <bhabalinux1> add widgets
[07:30] <bhabalinux1> and select taskbar
[07:30] <linuxson25> WIll do that....thanx
[07:30] <bhabalinux1> I had the same problem a couple of days back
[07:31] <linuxson25> Another thing though....kde desktop tends to crash a lot on me. Luckily I run guake terminal in the background which launches by pressing F12
[07:31] <linuxson25> What command would I use to kill, and then restart the kde desktop?
[07:32] <bhabalinux1> I am not sure
[07:33] <bhabalinux1> I had graphics problem and I deleted the driver and it worked
[07:33] <linuxson25> OK wait, let me have look quick if I can find something, then I will let you know. Incase something like that happens to you in the future
[07:33] <bhabalinux1> I am also pretty new to this thing
[07:33] <linuxson25> :)
[07:33] <linuxson25> Me too
[07:33] <ubuntu> hi
[07:33] <bhabalinux1> yah thanks
[07:33] <ubuntu> how to know which version i am running
[07:33] <linuxson25> but so far, gnome desktop has been the friendliest to me
[07:34] <linuxson25> Just hold on
[07:34] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: lsb_release -a
[07:34] <bazhang> !version | ubuntu
[07:35] <bhabalinux1> I haven't used genome
[07:35] <bhabalinux1> ok
[07:35] <bhabalinux1> will come back in linux
[07:35] <bhabalinux1> i m in windows right now
[07:37] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a
[07:37] <ubuntu> No LSB modules are available.
[07:37] <ubuntu> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[07:37] <ubuntu> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[07:37] <ubuntu> Release:        7.04
[07:37] <ubuntu> Codename:       feisty
[07:37] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <pawan> hi
[07:39] <pawan> cant we install applications when using live cd
[07:40] <pawan> how to install dolphin on 7.04 live cd
[07:44] <linuxson25> Ok....what is the correct way of restoring/regressing KDE desktop back to its first-run state?
[07:44] <bazhang> pawan, you wish to download dolphin for use on Ubuntu Feisty livecd? you can't install it perse, as it will disappear next boot of the live cd. Feisty is end of life; you had best get a more recent Kubuntu cd if you wish to use dolphin
[07:46] <pawan> i want to install for the current session is it possible
[07:46] <linuxson25> !restore | kde desktop
[07:47] <pawan> i cant read hard disk in 7.04
[07:47] <pawan> so want dolphin
[07:47] <bazhang> pawan, get a more recent liveCD
[07:47] <bazhang> pawan, Feisty is end of life and not supported
[07:48] <pawan> i have ordered it will take some time
[07:48] <pawan> i want some current solution
[07:48] <bazhang> pawan, additionally, that is Ubuntu not Kubuntu so doubtful it will fit in ram with all the dependencies
[07:49] <linuxson25> Anyone here know of a server I can join in connection with cloning and restoring of Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[07:49] <linuxson25> Using remastersys or apton-cd?
[07:50] <bazhang> !clone | linuxson25
[07:51] <linuxson25> Thanx bazhang
[07:51] <bazhang> linuxson25, should you wish to remaster a livecd; /msg ubottu remaster for links
[07:51] <pawan> !grub
[07:52] <kidblooper> does anyone know how to resolve a synaptics touchpad going crazy in kubuntu when two fingers touch it ?
[07:54] <linuxson25> bazhang: KDE desktop crashes a few times every now and then. There anyway I can restart desktop from terminal without having to log out or reboot?
[07:54] <pawan> how to know which all hard disk i have
[07:54] <bazhang> pawan, sudo lshw
[07:54] <kidblooper> linux son startx
[07:55] <bazhang> linuxson25, which version of Kubuntu ?
[07:55] <Bitty_f00f> I don't believe there is a way to un-confuse a crazy synaptics touchpad in software. You just have to touch it carefully..
[07:55] <pawan> how to read there contents
[07:55] <kidblooper> Bitty only problem is its a mini netbook.. no way to avoid it
[07:55] <linuxson25> Hmmmmm......Actually Ubuntu, with KDE desktop environment
[07:55] <linuxson25> Or am I wrong here?
[07:56] <bazhang> no, that is fine; you installed kubuntu-desktop presumably
[07:56] <Bitty_f00f> *Nod*
[07:56] <linuxson25> Will have to log into KDE first. In gnome now...had to fix a network problem
[07:56] <linuxson25> Yip
[07:56] <linuxson25> And its very nice....like it a lot
[07:57] <linuxson25> The whole desktop theme is pretty spiffy
[07:57] <linuxson25> But it tends to crash
[07:58] <linuxson25> I kinda know how to reload gnome desktop if it crashes, would the same apply to kde seeing as how its ubuntu under the hood?
[07:58] <bazhang> linuxson25, without more details its tough to say; do you have tons of widgets running? any error messages or such?
[07:58] <linuxson25> Uhhhh....it gives an error 11 message when it crashes
[07:59] <linuxson25> Cant remember what it says....will have to log back in that side, and mess around till it does, copy the text and pastebin it or something?
[07:59] <bazhang> linuxson25, that would be most helpful yes
[08:00] <linuxson25> But its actually just a general error message, letting you know that the kde desktop has crashed. Sometimes it restores....and sometimes it doesnt
[08:00] <linuxson25> But I will do that
[08:00] <linuxson25> Thanx for all the help
[08:00] <linuxson25> Cheers
[08:11] <kidblooper> bbiab
[08:56] <santo> ciao
[08:56] <santo> ..................................1list
[08:56] <santo> !list
[09:44] <ed___> hi, I'm trying to migrate my system partition from one raid array to another however I'm failing to boot the new partition - anyone familiar with this and got tips on what to check?
[09:52] <millun_> anyone any idea why Kubuntu 9.04 can't see my USB printer? xerox phaser
[09:53] <millun_> nothing even in dmesg
[09:53] <millun_> nor lsusb
[10:07] <linuxson25_> bazhang: Hi. Here is the pastebin link to the error I keep getting when my desktop crashes
[10:07] <linuxson25_> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/m76e4b8f8
[10:19] <COm_BOY> how to install a shared printer.. that is on another network in hardy heron
[10:19] <COm_BOY> the ip is 172.16.1.66 and the share name is HP .. everyone having windows uses it but i cant
[10:25] <linuxson25> bazhang: Hi. You get my pastebin?
[10:27] <linuxson25> geez.....this irc thing sure is finicky
[10:27] <linuxson25> keeps on disconnecting and reconnecting
[10:29] <linuxson25> bazhang?
[10:29] <linuxson25> You there?
[11:11] <linuxson25> Hi everyone
[11:11] <linuxson25> My KDE desktop keeps on crashing every now and then
[11:12] <linuxson25> http://pastebin.com/m76e4b8f8
[11:12] <linuxson25> Runnning gnome now at the moment, cause I dont know the command to kill, and then restart the kde gui....lol
[11:13] <linuxson25> Any help would be appreciated
[11:17] <test> hi, KDE's application keyboard shortcuts are not working (assigned with menu editor)...
[11:18] <test> but global shortcuts are working
[11:19] <test> i'm using kde 4.3 in Jaunty
[11:44] <COm_BOY> [14:19] <COm_BOY> how to install a shared printer.. that is on another network in hardy heron
[11:44] <COm_BOY> [14:19] <COm_BOY> the ip is 172.16.1.66 and the share name is HP .. everyone having windows uses it but i cant
[11:46] <superos> CoJaBo-Aztec: Try printing to the ip address
[11:46] <superos> Oops
[11:47] <superos> COm_BOY: It was for you ^
[11:51] <COm_BOY> i did it
[11:51] <COm_BOY> like \\172.16.1.66
[11:51] <COm_BOY> it opens smb.. but i cant see printer there
[11:51] <COm_BOY> the people using windows can see it
[11:51] <COm_BOY> so the doble click on that.. and install it
[11:54] <floh79> Hi, I've got a problem with command over ssh. I want to call: ssh user@host kill -9 `pidof vdr`
[11:55] <floh79> The problem is `pidof vdr`, here the pid of *local* machine is used. How do I that in proper way?
[11:59] <Draglor> Maybe ssh user@host "kill -9 `pidof vdr`" works?
[12:01] <floh79> Draglor: Already tried, didn't help. :(
[12:01] <|MaSa69|> Hmm, plasma has crashed few times after 4 weeks uptime
[12:02] <floh79> Same with: ssh user@host "kill -9 $(pidof vdr)"
[12:03] <Draglor> why not put a little script  just conataining "kill -9 `pidof vdr`" on the server and call this one?
[12:03] <Draglor> this should work
[12:03] <Draglor> Well, I hope it would work. ;)
[12:07] <floh79> Draglor: It doesn't resolve the basic problem, but it should help. Thank you, I'll do that.
[12:08] <Draglor> I know, but I prefer a "dirty hack" which is working over a "clean" solution which is not working. ;)
[12:09] <floh79> Draglor: You said it. :)
[12:09] <Draglor> maybe ask again in #linux as it's not kubuntu specific
[12:09] <Draglor> or just in #ssh ;)
[12:12] <floh79> Draglor: Good idea, I'll take a look into #ssh
[12:12] <floh79> Have a nice day!
[12:12] <Draglor> You, too
[12:22] <peter__> LOL
[12:22] <peter__> how do i reg?
[12:24] <peter__> hmm,
[12:44] <[-Haza-]> where exactly is the trash directory? (trash:/)
[12:44] <[-Haza-]> Its always causing me problems trying to empty it
[12:48] <[-Haza-]> Also, how do i change the size of the trash?
[12:54] <apparle> how to see which modules are loaded...........tell the command
[13:01] <cortex|sk> apparle: lsmod
[13:03] <apparle> thanks
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hiyas folks
[13:10] <breastfed> Hello Guys - i am looking for a wirelss Keyboard and Mouse which runs under Kubuntu 9 - anybody with some Suggestions?
[13:16] <breastfed> Hello Guys - i am looking for a wirelss Keyboard and Mouse which runs under Kubuntu 9 - anybody with some Suggestions?
[13:29] <hgh> fasdf
[13:32] <wx-42> kikou
[13:47] <VoipJunky_> jftp is forked
[13:48] <VoipJunky_> every sftp server I try to connect to it fails
[13:48] <VoipJunky_> and I have access to them
[13:49]  * afeijo_off is away: Desaparecer a partir de agora
[13:53] <linuxson25> HI
[13:59] <apparle> hi
[13:59] <apparle> !hi
[14:24] <apparle> what's the diffrence between a kde app and a qt app
[14:29] <Dragnslcr> A KDE program uses KDE libraries (which use Qt). You can have programs that only use Qt libraries directly and don't depend on KDE
[14:34] <apparle> then why do QT apps integrate well in KDE than GTK apps
[14:34] <apparle> and GTK apps integrate in gnome than QT apps
[14:36] <vinnl> Hi, could someone please check for me which packages depend on compiz-kde in 9.04?
[14:38] <apparle> vinnl: I can tell which compiz-kde depends on kde but not vice versa
[14:38] <apparle> vinnl: I can tell which compiz-kde depends on but not vice versa
[14:39] <vinnl> apparle, are you on a 9.04 system?
[14:39] <apparle> not now but can go
[14:39] <apparle> why
[14:41] <vinnl> apparle, could you then execute apt-cache rdepends compiz-kde?
[14:41] <vinnl> (I'm not on 9.04, but want to upgrade... However, it pulls in a lot of packages I don't want so I want to know why it does that)
[14:42] <llutz> vinnl:  |fusion-icon
[14:42] <Dragnslcr> apparle- because KDE uses Qt, and Gnome uses GTK
[14:42] <vinnl> llutz, ah, that explains, thanks :)
[14:44] <apparle> Dragnslcr: but you just said they are diffrent
[14:45] <Dragnslcr> What are different?
[14:47] <apparle> qt and kde
[14:50] <Dragnslcr> KDE uses Qt
[14:51] <MehmetAli> hello. I am just trying install linux for  the first time.. I booted from Cd, but after language selection, no matter what i choose ( even CD verify)  it freezes.. I tried on Virtual box on windows, and works fine..
[14:51] <MehmetAli> but i cannot install stand alone..
[14:51] <antonio_> hai i miei stessi problemi MehmetAli
[14:52] <antonio_> io nn so configurare il server
[14:52] <apparle> MehmetAli: after choosing language for how long did you wait
[14:52] <MehmetAli> like 5 mins. i press several keys.. and after some, any key makes BEEP sound.
[14:53] <MehmetAli> i have kubuntu 9.04 386.. and verified cd
[14:53] <MehmetAli> and hp laptop pavillion 9000..
[14:54] <MehmetAli> i donk thinks so but is it matter using windows7 on partition, when installing?
[14:56] <MehmetAli> also i tried f6 options menu before pressing anythign, i choosed noacpi, and one more option.. but still no..
[14:57] <MehmetAli> anyone can help here?
[15:02] <apparle> MehmetAli: did you try safe graphics mode
[15:14] <ubuntu_> hi
[15:16] <apparle> hi
[15:38] <rrs3> #kubuntu-br
[15:48] <reiner> sorry ?chan für kubuntu de
[15:48] <llutz> !de
[16:03] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[16:19] <VaineDragon> How do Install The Really Cool Screen Savers, in Kubuntu/Ubuntu 9.04?
[17:03] <apparle> !screensaver
[17:03] <apparle> !screensavers
[17:03] <apparle> how to install screensavers in ubuntu??
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !xscreensaver
[17:04] <BluesKaj> !kscreensaver
[17:04] <linuxson25> Hi everyone
[17:05] <linuxson25> Looking for a server to join in connection with remastersys or cloning
[17:05] <apparle> !info kscreensaver
[17:06] <apparle> BluesKaj: will kscreensaver do the job??
[17:07] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure
[17:13] <BluesKaj> apparle, it depends on your setup, I'm using the regular scrnsaver settings in system settings/desktop/screensaver/banners and pictures /slideshow/~/home/user/Pictures
[17:13] <cyrus_the_black> hey
[17:14] <apparle> BluesKaj: I want some animated screensavers similar to fireworks in KDE3
[17:14] <cyrus_the_black> Does anyone here have any experience setting up multiple gateways and subnets? im having some trouble :(
[17:15] <BluesKaj> apparle, you prolly have to search for those and DL them and put them in your screensaver path
[17:15] <apparle> ok
[17:32] <redstar13> plop
[17:33] <apparle> plop what
[17:33] <redstar13> francais ?
[17:33]  * afeijo is back.
[17:34] <redstar13> only english there?
[17:46] <redstar13> hi i'm new on irc, why nobody's talking here?
[17:46] <charles> Im not very familiar w the kubuntu file structure, i am downloading a torrent file and it is asking me for a helper application, i want to associate torrents w ktorrent.  What is the path to programs and ktorrent?
[17:47] <carl____> my network shows  i put in the wpe from the westwell modem  i don't connect can anyone help
[17:48] <redstar13> charles: usr/bin, does it work?
[17:49] <redstar13> or usr/lib
[17:50] <carl____> so tired of not having wireless
[17:51] <charles> redstar13: usr/bin was correct thanks a bunch
[17:51] <redstar13> ur welcome
[17:52] <carl____> red any ideas on wireless for me
[17:52] <charles> its just not so obvious like in windows its program files, but now i know, hopefully I dont forget by the next time I need to do it
[17:53] <redstar13> ask agan
[17:53] <redstar13> carl: i'll see, wait
[17:54] <redstar13> so that's the way: you enter your WEP and it doesn't work?
[17:54] <carl____> yes
[17:54] <carl____> i have the ! mark
[17:55] <redstar13> what is your internet operator?
[17:55] <carl____> verizon dsl
[17:55] <redstar13> (i don't know this one i'm french ^^' wait)
[17:56] <carl____> k
[17:56] <redstar13> do u have an internet box?
[17:56] <carl____> i have westwell modem
[17:57] <redstar13> OK, under the box, is there your WEP printed?
[17:57] <carl____> yes
[17:58] <redstar13> So
[17:58] <redstar13> i had this problem too and i just copy the code on a paper, enter on the computer and it works
[17:58] <redstar13> i don't see what's wrong
[17:59] <carl____> that is what   i have been doing only it  never connects and i go back to the ethernet cable
[18:00] <redstar13> is it the right code? is ur computer wi-fi equiped?
[18:00] <carl____> yes is a msi wind netbook
[18:00] <redstar13> and the modem?
[18:01] <carl____> the modem works with wireless
[18:01] <redstar13> okay
[18:01] <carl____> wireless worked on xp just i don't want xp
[18:01] <redstar13> when you can enter the wep, is there any options?
[18:03] <carl____> under wireless i go to wireless security
[18:03] <carl____> put in the wpe
[18:04] <carl____> choose ok
[18:04] <redstar13> unplug the ethernet and try again
[18:05] <charles> redstar13: what is the terminal command to open a program ie ktorrent with sudo priveledges.  is it "sudo ktorrent"?
[18:06] <redstar13> maybe it works but I do like this way;
[18:06] <redstar13> sudo su
[18:06] <redstar13> ktorrent
[18:07] <charles> redstar13: duh, i forgot the su
[18:07] <charles> thanks
[18:07] <redstar13> ;)
[18:10] <charles> redstar13: weird I type "sudo su ktorrent" then pw and i get "Unknown id: ktorrent"
[18:10] <redstar13> do u type this on the same line?
[18:10] <waltzingalong> charles: su ktorrent - su username. it lets you switch to that user
[18:11] <waltzingalong> charles: unknown id ktorrent because you do not have a user account named ktorrent
[18:11] <redstar13> don't type sudo su and ktorrent on the same line.
[18:11] <waltzingalong> charles: kdesudo guiprogram              for 'sudoing' gui programs
[18:13] <charles> thanks
[18:15] <waltzingalong> charles: sudo guiprogram can work too but can lead to unintended permission problems.
[18:19] <redstar13> how to add a new irc chan please? I have this one: #ubuntu-fr* and I don't know what to do
[18:20] <waltzingalong> redstar13: hello. to add a new channel? just join it. /join #channelyouwanttocreate
[18:21] <redstar13> when  I do this, I create a chan but I just want to join
[18:21] <waltzingalong> redstar13: then the channel did not exist before you attempted to join it. do you want to join the ubuntu french channel?
[18:22] <waltzingalong> !fr | redstar13
[18:22] <waltzingalong> redstar13:  so without the * at the end
[18:22] <redstar13> OK I try , thx
[18:23] <Ipse-Dixit> "System policy prevents mounting internal media"
[18:23] <Ipse-Dixit> hello, could anyone help checking whatz wrong with my fstab? here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/257037/ i compiled it myself, everything works but one of my hd, whenever i want to open it, it says "System policy prevents mounting internal media" then i have to type the pw and i can get in, how can avoid that? thanks
[18:23] <redstar13> it works thx!  But I stay here too because I want to talk english :)
[18:23] <waltzingalong> :D
[18:23] <redstar13> to speak english --
[18:24] <waltzingalong> Ipse-Dixit: the ntfs ones?
[18:24] <waltzingalong> !ntfs | Ipse-Dixit
[18:25] <redstar13> Another thing, I installed GDE on my computer using kde (to switch sometimes.) but how to uninstall Gnome softwares?
[18:26] <jimmy51_home> amarok confuses me these days
[18:26] <waltzingalong> redstar13: you can remove software through any of the package managers; adept, synaptic, aptitude, ...
[18:26] <jimmy51_home> i can get it to play a song if i click on the song in dolphin, but subsequent clicks on songs (when it's already open) are futile.
[18:26] <Ipse-Dixit> waltzingalong: no, incredibly the ntfs are automounted thanks to the fstab i compiled, the prob is the ext3 one, it wont automount it and whenever i want to open it, it says "System policy prevents mounting internal media" then i have to type the pw and i can get in, thatz what i dont understand
[18:27] <redstar13> waltzingalong: I do this but it isn't fast. Thx anyway
[18:27] <waltzingalong> Ipse-Dixit: not sure, because of the uid and gui options?
[18:28] <Ipse-Dixit> waltzingalong: dunno man, the uid is the right one i copied it from the output of a command in bash, the gui options what u mean?
[18:29] <Ipse-Dixit> waltzingalong: indeed when i type the pw i can get in, if there was something wrong it wouldnt let me in afterall
[18:29] <waltzingalong> uid,gid, i meant
[18:29] <waltzingalong> Ipse-Dixit: wrong permissions on the mount folder?
[18:30] <Ipse-Dixit> waltzingalong: this could actually be, im not good in permissions, how do i check that?
[18:31] <James147> Ipse-Dixit: why do you need to set the uid and gid?
[18:32] <waltzingalong> Ipse-Dixit right mouse click on the folder in dolphin, properties, permissions
[18:34] <Ipse-Dixit> james147: i had to in order to make my hd's automounted at each boot
[18:35] <Ipse-Dixit> waltzingalong: i confronted the permissions, advanced included, of the ext3 which is not automounting with the other ones and they're exactly the same, i dont get it
[18:35] <jado> hi i have a dns problem i can ping the ip's but not the domain names
[18:36] <James147> Ipse-Dixit: what does "sudo mount -a" say?
[18:37] <redstar13> does anyone know an irc chan to talk about informatic (generaly)?
[18:37] <Ipse-Dixit> James147: mount: mount point /media/archive does not exist (archive is the gui name of the hd in question)
[18:38] <James147> Ipse-Dixit: Suggest the folder dosent exist.. try creting it, "sudo mkdir /media/archive"
[18:40] <Ipse-Dixit> James147: i think i got it, let me try something, i'll brb to let u no
[18:46] <patricrawley> hi, I'm having issues compiling plasmoids from source
[18:46] <James147> patricrawley: what issues?
[18:47] <patricrawley> i get through the cmake command with no issues then I try make
[18:47] <patricrawley> and it always gives me errors, no matter what the plasmoid is
[18:47] <agilman> Hello, I installed kubuntu last night, and played around with it. I set up a bunch of widgets and didn't like how stuff looked. So I went to session configuration and checked 'start new session' instead of resuming previous one. Now KDE/plasma don't start right
[18:47] <agilman> for example, I don't get a window around apps I open
[18:48] <patricrawley> james147:make[2]: *** [applet/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_smooth-tasks.dir/plasma_applet_smooth-tasks_automoc.o] Error 1
[18:48] <patricrawley> make[1]: *** [applet/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_smooth-tasks.dir/all] Error 2
[18:48] <patricrawley> make: *** [all] Error 2
[18:48] <James147> patricrawley: givve me the output of both cmake and make at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[18:48] <agilman> and lots of other weird things. My question is, can I dpkg-reconfigure something, and start afresh?
[18:50] <James147> agilman: config files for kde (and palsma) are stored in $home/.kde try renaming that to reset plasma to defaults
[18:50] <agilman> I removed .kde, but it still doesn't work right
[18:50] <agilman> heh
[18:50] <James147> agilman: did you remove it then logout?
[18:51] <patricrawley> james147: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/257058/
[18:51] <agilman> I went to tty1, removed, then ran /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[18:51] <agilman> I'll try again, first will kill kdm
[18:52] <James147> patricrawley: try installing kdebase-workspace-dev
[18:54] <patricrawley> james147: Thanks! That worked
[18:55] <James147> patricrawley: your welcome
[18:56] <agilman> James147: any other words of wisdom?
[18:57] <patricrawley> James147: You don't happen to know why smooth tasks isnt showing previews do you?
[18:57] <James147> agilman: hmm not sure, you could try creating a new user see if that works
[18:58] <James147> patricrawley: is desktop effects disabled, System settings > Desktop > Desktop Effects?
[18:59] <patricrawley> James147: nope, it's enabled
[19:00] <combo> hello there, if i've installed *.run application, how can read its documentation (it was a part of the installation) ?
[19:00] <combo> i've installed it with "sudo sh *.run" command
[19:02] <James147> patricrawley: not sure, it is for me :S
[19:03] <James147> patricrawley: what version of kde are you useing?
[19:03] <patricrawley> 4.3
[19:05] <James147> patricrawley: only thing i can suggest is to look at the options for it and if nothing help contact the author
[19:05] <younes> how to install kde4.3 on kubuntu 9.04
[19:05] <Dragnslcr> younes- link is in the topic
[19:05] <waltzingalong> younes: a link to the instructions for that are in the channel topic
[19:08] <patricrawley> James147: I didn't have taskbar thumbnails enabled
[19:09] <James147> patricrawley: :)
[19:24] <dany> hola
[19:25] <kaddi> hola :)
[19:25] <kaddi> !es
[19:25] <dany> okas
[19:25] <dany> o se por qkq no hay  nadie a quien interrogar?
[19:25] <dany> :P
[19:26] <kaddi> sorry but my spanish is a bit rusty...
[19:28] <navetz> hey can anyone here direct me to a good place to get info about Voice over IP for cell phones?
[19:28] <liz_> hello room, does anyone have an idea of why k3b won't burn cds on my desktop?
[19:28] <kaddi> bye :)
[19:29] <James147_> liz_: what are you trying to de exatly? burn .iso to a cd?
[19:29] <dany> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:30] <Pici> !es | dany
[19:30] <liz_> james147: yes, but it won't burn anything
[19:30] <James147_> liz_: does it give and error at all?
[19:30] <navetz> what is a good irc client for KDE4? I am using quassel by default but I don't like it
[19:31] <liz_> james147: it just basically stops and then when I try again it states that it cannot find the cdburner
[19:33] <m0u5e> how do i change my login screen?
[19:33] <James147_> m0u5e: system settings > advanced tab > login manager
[19:34] <m0u5e> James147_: ah thanks, didnt see the adv tab lol
[19:35] <James147_> liz_:try going to settings > configure k3b > devices
[19:36] <James147_> liz_: does it list a writer device?
[19:36] <Dragnslcr> navetz- the KDE4 version of Konversation is available in the backports PPA
 navetz- the KDE4 version of Konversation is available in the backports PPA
[19:36] <navetz> err sorry
[19:37] <navetz> does KDE4 still have adept?
[19:37] <navetz> I see kpackagekit
[19:37] <navetz> but i think adept was much better
[19:37] <liz_> james147: it does list it at first and it's listed in my kinfocenter
[19:39] <Dragnslcr> navetz- I think so, but the KDE4 version of Adept is pretty bad. Last time I used it, the search function was practically useless
[19:40] <Ipse-Dixit> alright i was finally able to set the fstab right, now the only thing is when i look for this ext3 hd under "root > media" it doesnt appear with its name like the other ones, but it appears as "disk" and if i try to rename it it wont let me, any idea?
[19:42] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: sounds like kde is auto mounting it, disk is noramlly given to volumes that kde auto mounts that dont have  a label
[19:43] <James147_> liz_: try looking if settings > programs, see if there and any important ones missing
[19:43] <m0u5e> how do i make it so that when i am moving a window, and drag it near the edge of my desktop it will move it to my next desktop
[19:45] <Dragnslcr> Ipse-Dixit- the partition might not have a label
[19:45] <liz_> james147: I dont have the 'programs' setting
[19:45] <liz_> m0u5e: it should do it automatically if not, enable desktop effects
[19:46] <James147_> m0u5e: system settings > Window Behaviour: Tranverse windows on all desktops, i think
[19:46] <James147_> liz_: what version of kde and k3b are you useing?
[19:47] <Dragnslcr> m0u5e- System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges, there's a "Switch desktop on edge" option
[19:47] <m0u5e> liz, James147_, its not working :<
[19:47] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: can you give the contents of your current fstab?
[19:47] <m0u5e> Dragnslcr: that did it, thanks!
[19:47] <liz_> kde3.5 and k3b 1.0.4
[19:48] <Ipse-Dixit> James147_: sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/257096/
[19:52] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: ranther the the UUDI:XXXXXXX try just useing the /dev/sdXX ie /dev/sda1 /media/archive ext3 defaults,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,nouser 0 0
[19:52] <James147_> liz_: not sure whats wrong
[19:53] <Ipse-Dixit> James147_: no when i tried that it was mounting em sometimes and sometimes not, with the uid is perfect, at least for the ntfs's, not really working for the ext3
[19:53] <James147_> whats the output of "mount"
[19:54] <liz_> bummer :-/ I've been trying to find a fix for ages, it's funny that it used to work with dapper which I had a year ago and it works w/xp
[19:55] <James147_> liz_: what version of kubuntu are you useing?
[19:55] <Ipse-Dixit> James147_: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,data=ordered)
[19:55] <liz_> james147: I'm on hardy-heron
[19:56] <liz_> I have the same version on my laptop and it works
[19:56] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: and of "sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo mount -a"
[19:56] <Ipse-Dixit> wouldnt this unmount sda?
[19:56] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: yes
[19:57] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: well, only /dev/sda1
[19:57] <Ipse-Dixit> James147_: thatz hilarious take a look --> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/E23871C638719A6D does not exist
[19:57] <Ipse-Dixit> alright i give up
[19:58] <Ipse-Dixit> gotta go for a while, if u have some clue feel free to leave me a pm, and thanks for ur help, be back in 20 mins anyway
[19:58] <James147_> Ipse-Dixit: kk cya
[20:02] <James147> liz_: what dose Device > Media info give when you have a blank cd in the drive?
[20:04] <liz_> blank cd-r
[20:23] <ubuntu_> hello
[20:24] <skyhunter> Hey, I got some problems with these containers...  many of them appear but I cant close them anymore.. when I press the X they just come back a sec later... For example when I finished a download the container is there as long as my computer is turned on and I cant remove him...
[20:25] <ubuntu_> hello
[20:25] <ubuntu_> jkjk
[20:26] <BlueFaceMonster> anyone know why I can't "Export playlist to K3B" in Amarok 2?
[20:26] <ubuntu_> .s.d..f?>D>l?$gat  ../downya ?? ../link pass too$ connect
[20:28] <sourcemaker> how can I install kmymoney 1.0?
[20:28] <sourcemaker> via apt...
[20:37] <Rune__> anyone up for a laugh? I'm new to linux... and need some help with kubuntu.....
[20:37] <maco> whats that to do with laughing
[20:37] <maco> ?
[20:38] <Rune__> me screwing up....
[20:38] <maco> itd only be funny if you were a red hat certified engineer ;)
[20:39] <Rune__> :)
[20:39] <James147> Rune__: What you need help with?
[20:40] <Rune__> i just installed kubuntu on my nx6310, wlan: broadcom.... the system found the card and the driver no worries... but i could only connect to open networks...
[20:40] <Rune__> did a little research and found out that wicd was aparently the soloution
[20:41] <James147> Rune__: what version of kubuntu/kde are you useing?
[20:42] <jimmy51_home> sheesh.  openoffice's chart feature doesn't seem to work well.
[20:42] <Rune__> long story short, wicd requested uninstall of the network manager that came with the system... so i did... tried installed the deb file from wicd... but won't finish installation since it can't connect to the net... i'm using the newest.. 9.04 (i think it was)
[20:42] <jimmy51_home> anyone else have trouble with it?
[20:44] <jonah1980> hey guys, got a weird error here. when i click on dolphin i get "Configuration file "/home/jonah/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writeable. Please contact your system admin...??
[20:45] <James147> Rune__:http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download you can download it manully and install it offline
[20:45] <jonah1980> any ideas why? if i press ok then try again dolphin loads up...
[20:46] <James147> jonah1980: is the file owned by you or someone else (like root)?
[20:46] <kaddi> hi, I'm having trouble with the kio::trash. I tried reinstalling kdebase-runtime and removing .kde, however the problem persists. Does anyone know how to fix a broken kio-setup?
[20:46] <James147> kaddi:what is the problem exatly?
[20:47] <kaddi> James147: the problem is, that when I hit the wastebin-widget I get the error message "invalid address: trash:/"
[20:48] <kaddi> James147: I've asked here and in #kde before and it seems that the kio::trash is broken, as I can access the trash fine with konqueror or dolphin, but not using the widget or entering trash:/ into alt-f2
[20:48] <Rune__> james147: thanks.. tried that one already the msg I get is: The package donload failed, please check your network connection... i only have wireless connection here.. so i'm downloading from one pc and copy it over to a usb...
[20:49] <kaddi> James147: people at #kde suggested removing .kde and reinstalling kdebase-runtime as a first debug step, however as this didn't help they advised I'd try to ask here again, hoping someone might know how to fix the kio setup in ubuntu
[20:50] <James147> kaddi: what version of kubuntu/kde are you useing?
[20:51] <kaddi> James147: kde 4.2.4 and jaunty
[20:56] <James147> kaddi:sorry cant find the solution
[20:57] <kaddi> James147:  thanks for trying :)
[21:01] <ign0ramus_work> hey all.
[21:01] <kaddi> hi :)
[21:01] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi! :)
[21:01] <kaddi> how are you?
[21:02] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: doing well, only an hour left on a Friday afternoon... things are looking good ;)
[21:02] <kaddi> :D
[21:02] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: an hour left of *work*, that is.
[21:02] <kaddi> I thought so ;)
[21:02] <ign0ramus_work> but i am having problems with my Folder View ... (KDE4.3)
[21:03] <kaddi> oh no :o
[21:03] <kaddi> what is(n't) it doing?
[21:03] <ign0ramus_work> I set it to Not Show Previews and guess what it does...
[21:03] <kaddi> hehe... it totally ignores what you're trying to tell it :p
[21:04] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: yup, and so every time I'm mousing over an icon on the Desktop (Folder View), it starts opening that window, and god forbid there's a directory within a directory, and now I have 3 or 4 windows of previews open
[21:04] <kaddi> ah :/ not good.
[21:05] <ign0ramus_work> I don't want any previews, but nothing I do prevents the preview window from popping up.
[21:05] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: are you able to replicate this issue?
[21:05] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: I'll test it on karmic.. I'm still on kde 4.2 here
[21:06] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: OK, i'm using the 4.3 supplied by Backports
[21:08] <kaddi> the most amazing thing is that hibernate actually works, and yes I can reproduce that.. preview gets created no matter whaat
[21:08] <alan___> What app do you use in Kubuntu as P2P downloader?
[21:08] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: that's what i thought :(
[21:08] <ign0ramus_work> alan___: ktorrent works well
[21:09] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: it works without preview in kde 4.2 though
[21:09] <alan___> I mean, like eMule
[21:09] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: yeah, that's what bugs me.
[21:09] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: which is weird because there preview is enabled, lol.
[21:09] <ign0ramus_work> alan___: never used eMule, but Frostwire works...
[21:10] <alan___> Ok, thx! :)
[21:11] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: for some reason, the preview animations eat a lot of cpu for me too. I'm sure they shouldn't, but I wonder if its a KDE issue, or just not having proper Intel Graphics drivers... :?
[21:15] <WayneC> hi all
[21:16] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: I just checked with small folders.. added my windows partition now and I do get spikes up to 90/100% of CPU
[21:16] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: actually I think it just froze on the system32 folder
[21:16] <kaddi> heya WayneC  :)
[21:16] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: ouch :S
[21:17] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: it's back :D
[21:17] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: is this on the computer with the Intel graphics?
[21:17] <WayneC> i am a tad peved at my self i forgot my admin password for my listing
[21:17] <kaddi> but that's my 6 year old laptop, so I would expect it to need a little more resources
[21:17] <kaddi> yes, with intel
[21:17] <WayneC> i am the admin of ubuntu-wa-au
[21:17] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: I wonder if that's part of the problem
[21:18] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: I couldn't compare, I only own stuff with intel graphics, but they sure have been causing a lot of problems
[21:18] <kaddi> WayneC:  you can reset your password easily, I just need to check the command.. (we're not ignoring you ;) )
[21:18] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: The animations probably wouldn't bug me so much if they they opened and closely smoothly and quickly, but they most certainly do not do that.
[21:19] <WayneC> at the moment i havent got ubuntu on my comp i have win
[21:19] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: they do for me if there are less then a 100 objects in said folder. I used the system32 as a test, as it has many small files in it
[21:20] <kaddi> WayneC: sorry I must have misunderstood you, which password are you missing?
[21:20] <WayneC>  my admin pw was on my old hdd witch unfortunatly got fried ie whant dead
[21:21] <kaddi> your admin pw for your windows installation or your ubuntu installation or something else all together?
[21:21] <WayneC> i missing my adminastrater pw for my ubuntu mailing list ie list.ubuntu.com
[21:22] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: but in general I don't think you can compare intel-problems between jaunty in karmic. I find that karmic is running rather smoothely and definitely more stable on my old pc than jaunty has ever done on this pc
[21:22] <WayneC>  i i am the  leader ie owner of ubuntu wa loco team
[21:23] <WayneC> at present my computer isnt useing ubuntu its useing winxp pro
[21:24] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: that sounds promising... I can't wait :)
[21:24] <kaddi> WayneC:  I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the mailing lists.
[21:25] <WayneC> and i useing my mobile fone for internet and useing my brother laptop witch runs vista home basic wile my brother useing my computer
[21:25] <kaddi> WayneC: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2008-October/002437.html
[21:25] <kaddi> WayneC: For forgotten/lost passwords for things on lists.ubuntu.com, please send your request to rt at ubuntu.com
[21:26] <johanSB> Hello, could someone help me. I need to manage my desktop software. I used to use a wizard but now I only have KPackageKit, Which one would you reccomend?
[21:27] <ign0ramus_work> johanSB: as a frontend to APT? Even though it is gtk, Synaptic is probably the best.
[21:27] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: what are you using to show running programs? I've been switching between fancytasks, stasks and the default taskmanager, but none really are to my liking.. you know of others?
[21:28] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: i've just been using the default taskmanager. I still don't like the lack of customization on the kde4 panel... I'm sure it will come, but you still can't even resize panel icons!
[21:28] <johanSB> Thankyou ign0ramus_work, how can i launch synaptic?
[21:29] <ign0ramus_work> johanSB: first you have to install it: "sudo apt-get install synaptic" ... then, you can find it in your menu or use "kdesudo synaptic" to launch it.
[21:30] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: well stasks allows you to change the size of the icons of running programs, but in general it's not possible. I also noticed, when using the digital clock the chosen font only applies to the time. If you add a date this will be displayed in the system font, not the chosen font
[21:31] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: yup... noticed the same thing.  I know they're working on a lot of bugfixes and stuff, but the customization is nowhere near what I've come to expect from KDE
[21:32] <johanSB> ign0ramus_work: Thank you, I'm installing it.
[21:32] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: hehe, but in their defence, I tried to change the date format in gnome the other day.. that is simply not possible via gui. You select a language and you use it's settings. KDE offers nice options in systemsettings to set everything differently :)
[21:33] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: oh no question, even a half-broken kde 4.0 gave more options than the default GNOME, but it really seems like the amount of customization and options don't seem to be a big priority :(
[21:33] <WayneC> thanks
[21:33] <WayneC> email sent
[21:33] <kaddi> :)
[21:34] <WayneC> i brb
[21:36] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: I haven't really checked out kde 4.3 yet. I really only installed karmic on my old pc and see if it started (which it didn't at first) but now it's mind blowing.. it runs on less than 200Mb here and CPU usage is usually low as well. On Jaunty I'm usually close to a Gig, when everything is running :(
[21:37] <kaddi> I suppose they definitely did some improvements there and from what I heard 4.3 finally features different backgrounds for different desktops without a hack and similar stuff
[21:37] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: do you know in particular, what may be causing the difference?
[21:37] <kaddi> ign0ramus_work: not really, no.
[21:37] <kaddi> gotta run
[21:37] <kaddi> sry
[21:37] <ign0ramus_work> kaddi: bye!
[21:37] <kaddi> I'll be back in 3 hours, in case you'll still be there ;)
[21:37]  * genii sips
[21:38] <Michiel_H> Hi. I need some help with a Kubuntu laptop. I have recently upgraded the system. That also meant upgrading from KDE 3 to KDE 4. Since the upgrade, NetworkManager will no longer connect to wireless internet. It can see the available networks, but choosing one and providing the correct password does not work. This goes for both the new Network Manager widget and the old KNetworkManager.
[21:38] <Michiel_H> Could someone help me out?
[21:38] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: What kind of encryption are you using?
[21:38] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: WPA-personal
[21:39] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: hmm... that should work, but NM has been known to be a little funky with WPA.  Can you connect if you turn off encryption (temporarily, of course)?
[21:40] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: I haven't tried. Although it has no trouble with eth0. If you believe it will help, I'll turn the encryption off and try.
[21:40] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: yeah, i mean it's worth a shot.  and it will rule some things out if it does connect.
[21:41] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: also, I'm just not a big fan of NM in general (too flaky), and I use wicd instead.  Usually it's one of the first things i install on a fresh install.
[21:44] <ign0ramus_work> wow. the factoid for network-manager only applies up until Gutsy... maybe time to update?
[21:47] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: Ah, the Network Manager widget can connect if the network has no encryption.
[21:47] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: Well, the widget tells me it has connected, but I cannot visit any websites...
[21:48] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: does a ping or apt-get update work?
[21:48] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: When I changed the encryption, the internet was dropped for a while. :p But yes, without encryption, the laptop can connect.
[21:49] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: Then it seems to be due to the flakiness of NM and WPA.  I haven't used it in a while; see if there are any special new options for WPA. Else, I'd just install wicd and not have to give it a second thought with WPA or otherwise :)
[21:50] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work, A bit silly, since it worked fine before the upgrade. It also works perfectly on my Gentoo laptop, and that one's bleeding edge.
[21:51] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: I agree that it is silly, but I have spent entirely too many hours in this very room with this problem occurring over and over.  You are right in saying that it should work. But in many cases, it doesn't.
[21:52] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: This is my parent's laptop and it just needs to 'work'. So if wicd will work, that's fine. But I have no experience with it. Is it easy to install/configure?
[21:55] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: very. http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[21:56] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: I'm currently installing it. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks.
[21:56] <ign0ramus_work> Michiel_H: it's in the repos, and installing it will remove network-manager and the widget.  sorry, i had to look busy for a moment :P
[21:59] <ign0ramus_work> w00t! 5:00 here.  See you guys later :P
[21:59] <Michiel_H> ign0ramus_work: It seems the package manager isn't smart enough to first download wicd, and only then deleting network-manager.
[22:00] <Michiel_H> Ah, too late. :-)
[22:00] <Michiel_H> Can anyone else help me? Without network-manager or wicd, what's a temporary way to get internet through eth0, so I can download wicd?
[22:00] <Michiel_H> Thanks.
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> Michiel_H- I just had that problem myself yesterday
[22:02] <Dragnslcr> Open up /etc/network/interfaces as root
[22:02] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Done.
[22:02] <Dragnslcr> auto eth0     iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:03] <Dragnslcr> Add those two lines to the file
[22:03] <it-39> hello
[22:03] <Dragnslcr> Then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:05] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[22:05] <Michiel_H> Hm.
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Oh, was there already a line there about eth0?
[22:05] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Nope.
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Did you put those on two separate lines?
[22:06] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Yep.
[22:06] <Dragnslcr> Weird
[22:06] <Dragnslcr> Run ifconfig. What does it list for interfaces?
[22:06] <avihayb> Michiel_H: can you not set it up with ifconfig and dhclient?
[22:07] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: My fault! I copied your second line incorrectly.
[22:07] <Dragnslcr> Heh, not being able to copy/paste makes it harder, doesn't it
[22:07] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr, avihayb: Still no internet, though.
[22:07] <Dragnslcr> Check ifconfig
[22:08] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: It shows eth0.
[22:08] <Dragnslcr> Does it list an IP address for it?
[22:09] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: It shows an inet6 address.
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> Should be the second line, starts with inet addr
[22:09] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Second line inet addr shows 127.0.0.1
[22:09] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: That doesn't seem right.
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> For eth0?
[22:09] <Michiel_H> Yep
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that isn't right
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> Does ifconfig list lo?
[22:10] <Michiel_H> That info was in the interfaces file. Should I have removed those lines?
[22:10] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Yeah, it shows lo.
[22:11] <Dragnslcr> Is the address for lo 127.0.0.1?
[22:11] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Yes,
[22:11] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[22:11] <it-39> i have installed kde 4.3 now need to configure a second monitor on my ati hd2600 is possible? sorry for my bad english! i'm italian user
[22:12] <Dragnslcr> Your interfaces file should look something like this- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/257156/
[22:12] <avihayb> it-39 : does the usual way (the system settings applet) work?
[22:13] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: It's solved. You don't want to know what I did wrong. ;-) Ok, I'll tell ya. There was still a second typo in that second line.
[22:13] <it-39> not work :(
[22:13] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: I must be tired.
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[22:13] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Thanks a lot!
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> It's always the obvious stuff
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[22:13] <Michiel_H> Yes it is.
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> It could have been worse. You could have forgotten to plug in the Ethernet cable
[22:14] <Dragnslcr> That's bitten me a few times
[22:14] <Michiel_H> Dragnslcr: Well, in my sleep-deprived state I'm capable of anything. Even that. But in this case the cable was firmly connected. ;-)
[22:14] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[22:14] <it-39> avihayb the applet see only one monitor
[22:15] <avihayb> have you restarted x-server since you pluged the monitor?
[22:16] <it-39> yes i have restarted a pc
[22:18] <it-39> where is the xrandr command for add a second monitor left to monitor number one?
[22:19] <avihayb> well, I've looked around, and found this: http://www.blackpoolcomputerclub.co.uk/2009/04/dell-inspiron-ati-radeon-hd2600-twin.html
[22:21] <it-39> tanks avihayb
[22:21] <avihayb> it-39: wait, it's not from ATI
[22:22] <avihayb> let me have a look at theire main site
[22:22] <it-39> ok
[22:30] <avihayb> it-39: was it working fine in 4.2?
[22:32] <it-39> no :( whork fine only on gnome
[22:34] <avihayb> ok, this link is from AMD's site, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.2&lang=English
[22:34] <avihayb> there is one guy that sais that it helped him, but he can't get 3d effects to work
[22:37] <avihayb> *says
[22:37] <avihayb> and this guy says he managed to get it all to work: http://www.joelanman.com/archives/7
[22:40] <avihayb> All I find about problems with your card seem to be more then 6 months old
[22:42] <it-39> avihayb tank's again...you hae a feedbak if this drive whork fine on dual head whith big desktop setting??
[22:44] <sillyBeef> Hi. I am in need of some assistance. this here is not 1 simple question, it is a rather long journey. It all starts with fixing microphone, but There are allot of small issues on the way. First of all. I have found a temporary way to fix mic which involves deactivating drivers, rebooting, then activate them again without rebooting. Now when running lsmod when the microphone is working I get this output "ctxfi"  84136 "used by" 2 , while w
[22:44] <sillyBeef>  running lsmod when mic is not working i get "used by" 3 at the same line. anyone able to join me on this journey ?
[22:44] <avihayb> it-39:  yes, but on older linux systems
[22:45] <it-39> ha ok!
[22:46] <it-39> now i go... good night  ... ciao avihayb grazie :)
[23:02] <DrEvilFish> I need help with ubuntu update
[23:03] <James147> DrEvilFish: what exatly do you need help with?
[23:04] <DrEvilFish> When I try to update I keep getting this ----->E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:04] <DrEvilFish> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:05] <James147> DrEvilFish: run "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"
[23:05] <DrEvilFish> Im new to Ubuntu and dont know how to find it
[23:06] <James147> are you useing ubuntu or kubuntu?
[23:06] <DrEvilFish> ubuntu
[23:06] <James147> run terminal from the start menu
[23:07] <James147> once it is open type into it "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" without the quotes
[23:07] <James147> it should prompt for a password, enter your users password
[23:08] <DrEvilFish> OK Im trying that now
[23:14] <DrEvilFish> Its updating...Thanks for the help!!!
[23:14] <James147> DrEvilFish: No problem
[23:26] <aqui1a> Does anyone know how to fix it so that sound works when viewing Flash (i.e. on YouTube)? :)
[23:26] <apparle> plz suggest how to connect to google talk using port 443
[23:26] <James147_> aqui1a: read somewhere that you need to reinstall flash could try that
[23:26] <aqui1a> Should I uninstall it first then?
[23:27] <James147_> aqui1a: best bet
[23:27] <aqui1a> Okie doke ;) thanks
[23:28] <apparle> plz tell me something similar to gtalk
[23:29] <James147_> apparle: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2383/kubuntu_access_google_talk_kopete/
[23:29] <aqui1a> james147_ I'm new to linux, should I use the app manager to uninstall and reinstall?
[23:30] <apparle> James147_: here is the problem I can't use 5223
[23:31] <James147_> aqui1a: in konsole, or terminal.. or what ever command line program you have type "sudo aptitude pruge flashplugin-installer" then when thats finished "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer"
[23:31] <aqui1a> Very helpful, thanks a lot James
[23:32] <apparle> aqui1a: wati
[23:32] <apparle> aqui1a: wait
[23:32] <apparle> its purge and not pruge
[23:33] <James147_> opps yeah
[23:33] <aqui1a> lol Yeah hehe figured that out when the warning came up :) tx
[23:33] <James147_> apparle: try the hotot i linked just use the port you need instead, not sure if it will work but worth a try
[23:33] <James147_> howto^^
[23:36] <apparle> it doesn't work
[23:39] <James147_> apparle:why carnt you use the default port?
[23:40] <apparle> blocked by college server..........
[23:40] <James147_> :(
[23:42] <aqui1a> Hmm, that didn't seem to work :(
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> apparle- you can only connect to a Jabber server on ports that it's listening on
[23:43] <aqui1a> I've tried Firefox, Konqueror, and Opera. The sound in Flash works in none of them
[23:43] <James147_> Dragnlcr: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=27930 - look like it listens on 2 ports
[23:44] <James147_> cant seem to get it to work on 443
[23:44] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was about to ask if GTalk listens on 443
[23:45] <afief> I am on Ubuntu 9.04, is there a way to install KDE4.3 without installing 4.2 first?
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> afief- er, 4.2 is installed by default
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> Oh, wait
[23:46] <James147_> aqui1a: try downloading and installing flash from adobes site
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> Sorry, misread that
[23:46] <aqui1a> I've tried that James, still no luck :)
[23:47] <Dragnslcr> afief- there's a link in the topic for installing 4.3. You can probably add the backports PPA and then install kubuntu-desktop
[23:47] <Dragnslcr> I'm not certain that it will work correctly, but you can try it
[23:50] <James147_> aqui1a: have you closed and restarted all browser windows after installing it?
[23:50] <aqui1a> Yep
[23:50] <aqui1a> Didn't first time, so did again with all shut
[23:51] <James147_> aqui1a: try closing all applications thatm might be useing sound
[23:51] <James147_> aqui1a: amarok kmix dragon player etc
[23:52] <aqui1a> Ok :)
[23:54] <heinkel_111> which repositories are present on the kubuntu dvd?
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> There's a known issue with Flash and (I believe) pulseaudio. I usually ran into it with Amarok, so that might be the first one to try closing
[23:54] <heinkel_111> is it only the main repository, or multiverse too?
[23:54] <aqui1a> Still nothing :(
[23:57] <James147_> aqui1a: from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 - If you are using amd64 Jaunty, there is a very good chance that 64 bit flash 10 is not playing through pulseaudio. For some reason the adobe devs decided that flash should use dmix rather than default for sound output. Luke Yelavich will be providing an update soon that will basically do this but you can do it yourself now: Edit your ~/.asoundrc file and add these lines. T
[23:57] <James147_>  redirect flash to pulseaudio for you.
[23:57] <James147_> pcm.!dmix {
[23:57] <James147_>  type pulse
[23:57] <James147_>  }
[23:58] <aqui1a> I#m not using AMD64
[23:59] <James147_> pcm.!dmix {
[23:59] <James147_>  type pulse
[23:59] <James147_>  }