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shikibuwhat should happen if I am looking at my own url (https://launchpad.net/~shikibu), and I click "Code"? what actually does happen is a timeout error00:35
wgrantshikibu: Try https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~shikibu; that's more likely to work at the moment.00:37
wgrantThere's a bug causing timeouts on some branch listings.00:37
shikibugot it. thanks00:37
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pooliethumper, can you help https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/8056801:56
thumperpoolie: I had already opened it when I say you change the project01:56
poolieoh cool, thanks01:56
HellowHello, I require the assistance of a Launchpad admin. Any here?02:33
wgrantHellow: You might not actually need an admin. Ask away, and people will help or direct you to where you must go.02:34
Hellowwgrant: The leader of the Ubuntu Forums Unanswered Posts Team has gone MIA, and since we have appointed two new leaders, myself being one. We need a LP admin to set the two new leaders as administrators on the relevant Launchpad team.02:36
wgrantHellow: You should ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, and an admin will sort it out.02:36
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wgrantAre old launchpad-users archives anywhere? The old archives were never imported into the new list, and the old archive URL just redirects to the new on.09:26
bigjoolswgrant: that's a question for kfogel I guess09:51
kamalnandanI was wondering what this launchpad ppa does..09:52
kamalnandani am new to packaging and i was directed to this website..but i find it really intriguing..09:52
bigjoolskamalnandan: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA09:52
bigjoolsmrevell: talking of which, that page is wrong about subsequent PPA quotas09:54
mrevellbigjools: Ah, is it?09:54
wgrantI noticed that last week, but thought it might have been intentional.09:54
bigjoolsmrevell: they're all 1Bg09:55
bigjoolser 1Gb09:55
kamalnandanbigjools: thanks for response..but that page I have already been visiting..but it talks of "signing the Ubuntu code of conduct. "..09:55
mrevellbigjools: Ah, tis news to me sir. :)09:56
bigjoolskamalnandan: yes, it requires you to digitally sign the Code of Conduct, which is recorded in Launchpad, before you're permitted to use PPAs09:56
bigjoolsit just affirms that you're a nice guy and you won't do anything stupid09:57
kamalnandanI tried doing that..but i am taken to this page:09:57
kamalnandanhttps://launchpad.net/~kamal-nandan/+editpgpkeys09:57
bigjoolskamalnandan: yes, you need to have a gpg registered in Launchpad09:57
bigjoolsgpg key09:57
kamalnandani need to enter some fingerprint there..09:57
kamalnandanhow do i get gpg key?09:58
kamalnandanwhen i type this command at the terminal:09:58
kamalnandangpg --fingerprint09:58
kamalnandani dont get any response..09:59
bigjoolsyou have to generate a key locally, and upload it to the ubuntu keyserver09:59
kamalnandanhow do we generate that key locally?09:59
wgrantkamalnandan: See the 'Learn more about OpenPGP keys' link on that page.10:00
kamalnandanbigjools and wgrant, thanks for guidance..I will go thru that 'Learn more about OpenPGP keys' page ..:-)10:01
rowinggolferkamalnandan: mrevell's howtos are 1st clas IMO.10:03
rowinggolferwhat exactly don't you get?10:03
mrevellrowinggolfer: Oh thanks man.10:03
mrevellPerhaps we should have a screencast on generating and adding a PGP key10:04
popey\o/ screencast highlight10:04
wgrantmrevell: OTOH I think it's a reasonable barrier.10:04
mrevellpopey: hah10:05
bigjoolsmrevell: +110:05
mrevellwgrant: Maybe for PPA-related stuff but not for CoCs.10:05
wgrantmrevell: True.10:06
mrevellwgrant: Unless I misunderstand you.10:06
* wgrant recalls helping non-technical people through signing the CoC...10:06
wgrantSo yes, screencast!10:06
mrevellheh10:07
rowinggolferkamalnandan: what I didn't get about PPAs was the "building" part.10:07
* mrevell dons his robe and screencast hat10:07
rowinggolferI had thought that you made the debs on your own machine......10:07
rowinggolferthe VM stuff behind the scenes is really cool10:07
bigjoolsmrevell: robe? are you playing quidditch?10:08
mrevellbigjools: Just a reference to the classic bash.org quote -- http://www.bash.org/?10438310:08
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: thanks for response...but how do you know if I am building something, and I doing that on Ubuntu VM..10:09
rowinggolferkamalnandan: here's the deal... locally (ie. on your machine, be it i386, x64 or lpia......)10:10
rowinggolferyou build a SOURCE package10:10
rowinggolferthat is sent to launchpad PPA (using dput)10:10
rowinggolferand the launchpad builds a deb for the 3 architectures.10:11
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: but how do you know if I am using some VM...:-)..10:12
kamalnandanand BTW, how do i access this "mrevell's howtos"10:12
mrevellkamalnandan: There are some help guides here: https://help.launchpad.net10:12
mrevellkamalnandan: and there are some pop-up help links in the Launchpad web UI itself10:13
kamalnandanmrevell: thanks for the link...10:13
mrevellpleasure10:13
rowinggolferkamalnandan: I'm sorry I mentioned the VMs now... I've confused you.10:16
rowinggolferthat's all behind the scenes.10:16
rowinggolferlaunchpad build method creates a "virgin" ubuntu machine10:17
rowinggolferand builds your deb on that10:17
rowinggolferthat ensures dependency checking etc.....10:17
rowinggolferis non-polluted10:17
rowinggolferI may be wrong about this... I'm a newbie to this too.10:17
rowinggolferLaunchpad is a HUGE TOOL that is difficult to get one's head around.10:18
rowinggolferdifficult to swallow.... so to speak10:18
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: infact I have been working on ubuntu packaging for which I was asked to use launchpad(initially I was trying to do that on my own ubuntu machine that is installed over my VMWare)..and I was surprised how you know so many things abt me...:-)10:18
* rowinggolfer getting close to the boundaries of allowable euphenism.10:18
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: infact this is the 1st time i have logged in into this lauchpad IRC..and you mentioned all the keywords like building, deb, VM etc. that was related to my work..and that left me surprised..though you wrere talking of some other VM(i.e. Virgin machine)..10:21
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: sorry for my misunderstanding and if it offended you..10:23
popeymrevell: never seen that bash quote, it's awesome10:23
garyvdmHi - I'm trying to dput to a launchpad ppa. It stops on the .orig.tar.gz: on 467k/468k. I left it for 5 min, but it did not continue. Here is pastebin of my console: http://paste.ubuntu.com/256786/10:23
garyvdmIs there any thing I can try to get it to go?10:23
mrevellpopey: Seriously? I thought it was majorly famous, I love it :)10:24
noodles775garyvdm: I replied in #ubuntu-motu10:24
* wgrant had seen that quote years ago.10:25
bigjoolsmrevell: haha, yes, that's old but awesome10:26
popeymrevell: as do I now :)10:27
rowinggolferkamalnandan: not offended in the slightest10:27
rowinggolferkamalnandan: delighted you thought I was cracking into your system though....10:29
rowinggolferthat is SO beyond my sklillset10:29
bigjoolsmrevell: more here http://www.mlcsmith.com/humor/cybersex/10:29
mrevellcheers bigjools :)10:29
bigjoolsmrevell: my pleasure10:30
bigjoolsor maybe yours10:30
kamalnandanrowinggolfer: thanks...:-)10:45
rowinggolfer#ubuntu-motu10:58
rowinggolferdamn10:58
rowinggolferone day, I'll get a clue.10:58
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rowinggolferquestion.11:07
rowinggolferthis room is aimed at which demographic?11:07
rowinggolferlaunchpad is such a big toolset11:07
wgrantLaunchpad users in general.11:07
rowinggolferis this the place for PPA discussion?11:07
rowinggolferor the bug tracking stuff?11:07
rowinggolferor both.11:07
wgrantPPAs, yes. Packaging in general belongs in #ubuntu-motu.11:07
intellectronicarowinggolfer: all of the above11:08
rowinggolferwhat does motu stand for?11:08
wgrantDiscussion about the bug tracker is here; discussion about bugs in particular belongs in the project's channels.11:08
intellectronicamasters of the universe11:08
rowinggolferlol.11:08
rowinggolferseriously?11:08
wgrantYes.11:08
intellectronicarowinggolfer: funny, but that wasn't a joke11:08
wgrantA term dating back to 2004, and about to die :(11:08
intellectronica(universe being the general debian-derived repository managed by said masters)11:09
rowinggolferah... ok.11:09
rowinggolferI was thinking that the shuttleworth was the master of the universe...11:10
rowinggolferwith jono and popey as his evil henchmen.11:10
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mrevellderyck: pingalingading11:17
deryckhi mrevell11:18
deryckpongalongadingdong11:18
mrevellderyck:  :)11:18
intellectronicaanyone else getting replies from boxbe.com for email sent to the users list?11:40
wgrantintellectronica: Yes. It's been like that for months.11:41
intellectronicareally? first time for me. always from the same user?11:41
wgrantYes.11:41
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intellectronicai think we should ask him to stop. i realise this is supposed to be some kind of outsourced authentication service, but i don't think it's acceptable nevertheless11:42
wgrantAgreed.11:43
gmbintellectronica, wgrant: I just saw that too. +1 for asking him to stop.11:44
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rowinggolferI'm having trouble connecting to people.ubuntu.com12:53
rowinggolfer1st time I've tried12:53
rowinggolferhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom12:53
rowinggolferI'm using filezilla.12:53
rowinggolfercan anyone help?12:53
rowinggolferis my secret key the password?12:54
rowinggolfersurely not.12:55
wgrantrowinggolfer: It's your SSH key.12:56
rowinggolferthe public one?12:56
wgrantI just use Nautilus.12:56
rowinggolfercool12:56
wgrantrowinggolfer: You need the private part.12:57
wgrantBut that won't help you.12:57
geserwgrant: does it work for you?12:57
wgrantYou're not an Ubuntu Member.12:57
wgrantgeser: I haven't tried.12:57
* wgrant tries.12:57
rowinggolferwgrant: am I not?12:58
geserwgrant: it doesn't work for me12:58
wgrantrowinggolfer: Launchpad doesn't think you are...12:58
rowinggolferdamn.12:58
rowinggolferwho do I need to sleep with?12:59
wgrantgeser: Works fine for me.12:59
geserhmm12:59
rowinggolferMember since:  2007-07-1213:00
wgrantrowinggolfer: That's your Launchpad account.13:00
wgrantLittle to do with Ubuntu Membership.13:00
wgranthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership13:00
rowinggolferunderstood, thanks13:00
wgrantgeser: What goes wrong when you try?13:00
geserwgrant: sftp -v geser@people.ubuntu.com shows that it offers the public key but then "Permission denied (publickey)."13:03
geserwgrant: I wonder if it's the newline in https://edge.launchpad.net/~geser/+sshkeys13:03
geserbut pulling from bzr over bzr+ssh works. it does use the same ssh key stored in LP, right?13:04
wgrantgeser: It does.13:05
wgrantgeser: But LP is not OpenSSH; people.u.c is.13:05
wgrantAnd OpenSSH seems picky about this.13:05
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geserwgrant: what does bzr+ssh://... use when I do a bzr pull? doesn't it use OpenSSH??13:06
wgrantgeser: The server is not OpenSSH, no.13:07
wgrantIt's a derivative of Twisted Conch.13:07
geseroh, I trying fixing the ssh key stored on LP13:07
wgrantI tested here, and OpenSSH dislikes newlines inside keys.13:07
geserI guess LP should warn about the newline when adding a SSH key13:09
wgrantPossibly.13:10
* geser files a bug13:11
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IntuitiveNippleOn a PPA build I'm getting some "Depends on xxx but it is not going to be installed". The issue seems to be that the package being build (kdenlive) has a build-depends on libmlt-dev which also has a build-depends on libmlt1. The MLT packages have already been built and are in the PPA archive. I'm not quite sure what the cause or solution is and searching hasn't helped. Anyone know the answer?14:50
bigjoolsIntuitiveNipple: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-motu?14:51
IntuitiveNippleI thought about it but as this seems to be a PPA issue (never had this problem before) I thought it more applicable to launchpad14:52
bigjoolsIntuitiveNipple: the PPA builders just rely on apt to install dependencies14:53
IntuitiveNippleMy packages are recently refreshed git/svn snapshots of packages in another PPA. I looked at the build logs for the originals and they don't have the same problem, yet the debian/control files are the same, which is why I thought it was something to do with the buildd getting confused.14:55
IntuitiveNippleI'll try some more digging14:55
bigjoolsthat's odd indeed14:55
bigjoolsit might be that some other dependencies changed in the meantime14:56
IntuitiveNippleyeah... I only came here after doing a lot of checking and reading the PPA help pages14:56
IntuitiveNipplewhich recommends this channel or email if problems persist :D14:56
bigjoolswe aim to please :)14:56
IntuitiveNippleI can build them successfully locally too, which is even odder14:56
bigjoolswith pbuilder?14:57
IntuitiveNippleyes14:58
IntuitiveNippleI'll go through the build logs again comparing and see if I missed something14:59
IntuitiveNippleThe main issue seems to be that dependencies of dependencies aren't being added to the installation list14:59
geserIntuitiveNipple: try adding your PPA and try installing the mentioned package from it (simulate is enough)15:31
geser"Depends on XXX but it is not going to be installed" happens because of a problem somewhere down the dependency chain (uninstallable package or conflicts) and you need to figure out yourself what's the problem exactly is15:34
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mptNow that +filebug-advanced is gone, what's the best way of getting around timeouts during duplicate searching?16:57
exarkunbzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exarkun/pyopenssl/pkcs12_mod_and_export3/changes: Unable to handle http code 502: Bad Gateway16:58
mptLast time I accidentally avoided a timeout by reporting the bug against "blueprint", which I guess has few bug reports16:58
mptbut I probably shouldn't do that as a habit :-)16:58
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exarkunI tried to log in to report the 502 error17:05
exarkunAnd I got an oops17:05
exarkunOOPS-1329H177517:05
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1329H177517:05
exarkunSomething going on?  Should I stop trying to use launchpad for a while?17:05
intellectronicampt: there isn't, really, and i sense that this is fast becoming a serious problem for bigger projects17:13
intellectronicagmb: ^^^17:13
gmbintellectronica: It's not hard to put it back if we need to. OTOH, once I've got this Bugzilla stuff out of the way I can get the async version working properly.17:15
intellectronicagmb: yeah, i guess it makes sense to wait for this17:17
mdzI'm seeing several timeouts in a row on edge17:17
mdzwhile trying to report a bug17:17
mdzI see two different queries, one a VaridPersonCache query and the other looks like the full text search for similar bugs17:18
gmbmdz: One work around is to use a short string for the inital title and then expand it once the dupe search is done.17:18
gmbmdz: Part of the problem is that hte more complex the title, the harder the FTI search.17:19
gmbmdz: Though doing that increases the chances of duplicates.17:19
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mdzgmb: it happens even with 'xxx'17:39
gmbmdz: What are you trying to file the bug on?17:39
mdzgmb: linux17:39
* gmb tries17:39
gmbmdz: Can you give me a URL? I can't reproduce it (yet)17:40
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mtaylormerge requests: the workflow of resubmit, request review, add comment all by hand seems a bit excessive... if I'm resubmitting, perhaps an option to add a comment at that point in time and perhaps pre-populate "request review" with the person that reviewed before?18:04
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mdzgmb: bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug/@hash@18:13
mdzgmb: it's a crash report18:14
mdzgmb: it's for the kernel, so it has a huge attachment18:14
gmbmdz: Hmm, I wonder if that's part of the problem. I can't get it to fail on its own.18:21
* gmb tries to think of a workaround18:22
gmbmdz: Can you give me an OOPS ID?18:22
mdzgmb: OOPS-1329ED19318:23
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1329ED19318:23
mdzgmb: OOPS-1329ED19718:24
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1329ED19718:24
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mdzgmb: bhey, it worked!18:24
gmbmdz: Did you just keep your finger down on F5? ;)18:25
mdzgmb: sort of ;-)18:25
gmbHeh.18:25
gmbmdz: Okay, let me see if I can find an appropriate bug for this, but it's obviously something we need to solve in pretty short order.18:25
gmbmdz: I think this is bug 35790718:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 357907 in malone "+filebug is timing out when processing large blobs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35790718:26
mdzgmb: the kernel crash reporting is new, so we won't be getting too many, but it would be very valuable to have it working18:26
mdzgmb: agreed, that looks like it18:27
gmbmdz: Okay. I'll mark it high and see if we can take a look at it soonish (though deryck's your man to butter up for getting bugs engineers assigned to things now ;))18:27
* gmb wonders how it's stayed un-triaged for so long.18:27
* deryck looks at scrollback18:27
mdzderyck: pleased to make your acquaintance ;-)18:28
deryckhi mdz :)18:29
NCommanderAny Soyuz gurus around who can explain http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30644644/upload_1175233_log.txt ?18:36
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* bigjools looks18:39
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bigjoolsNCommander: the package is building a binary version that already existing18:40
bigjoolsexisted*18:40
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NCommanderbigjools, *groan*18:42
bigjoolsNCommander: sorry man :)18:42
bigjoolsbarry: what does class="registry-stat" do?18:43
NCommanderbigjools, I'm kinda curious on how that happened though18:43
bigjoolsECHAN18:43
bigjoolsNCommander: *usually* when a binary packages moves between source packages18:43
NCommanderbigjools, its a new package, it just went through NEW18:46
NCommanderbigjools, found the cause: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-mvl-dove/2.6.31.200.1 (how can a package be both superseeded by itself?!)18:47
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bigjoolsNCommander: I am racking my brains trying to remember why this happens18:48
bigjoolsNCommander: ah I see18:48
bigjoolsNCommander: it was overridden while building18:48
bigjoolscan't do that18:48
NCommanderbigjools, what happened and how do we prevent it from happening again, and how do we fix ti :-)18:48
NCommanderoverridden?18:48
bigjoolsuniverse->main18:49
NCommander*headthunks*18:49
NCommanderIts not supposed to be in main18:49
NCommanderbigjools, can we demote it and then retry?18:49
bigjoolsyou need to get an archive admin to fix that18:49
bigjoolsyeah, then retry the build18:49
bigjoolsIIRC18:50
NCommanderbigjools, LP *really* needs to handle that better :-/18:50
bigjoolsno dount18:51
bigjoolsdoubt18:51
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NCommanderbigjools, *groan* FTBFS again19:00
NCommanderbigjools, er, Failed to Upload19:00
NCommanderbigjools, duplicated ancestory19:00
NCommanderbigjools, now what?19:00
bigjoolsNCommander: ah sorry, brain fart, version bump is the easiest thing to do right now19:07
bigjoolsbut get the component overrides fixed first19:07
NCommanderbigjools, got it fixed, the source package is set for universe. Once it builds and uploads, I'll get it bumped to main19:08
bigjoolsNCommander: ok, sorry for the trouble19:13
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ftai like the new design of the build pages but for my packages, it's too wide: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/117511419:36
beunofta, interesting19:36
beunofta, thanks for the feedback, I'll file a bug about long names breaking things19:37
beunofta, I'm guessing that if we shortened them, you wouldn't be too happy, right?19:37
beunoas in, truncated19:37
ftaright19:38
beunoeven with a tooltip?19:38
beunoor, truncated them in the middle, like: chromium-browser-4...tu1~ucd1~intrepid19:39
maxbeww, that would really be not useful19:41
beunothat's what I thought19:41
beunoso19:41
beunohelp me out here19:41
beunohow can we solve this?19:41
* beuno puts on his brainstorm hat and looks at maxb and fta 19:41
maxbWell, "Files resulting from this build" and "Binary packages produced by this build" have a lot of redundancy between them19:43
maxbI would opt for combining the two concepts such that the names can use the entire page width19:43
* beuno stares at bigjools19:44
beunomaxb, one of the reasons they are like that, is because at one point, the one on the left is "building"19:45
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* bigjools repels beuno's stare with his batshield19:59
bigjoolsthe sprites are borked on that page too20:00
beunoyeah20:00
beunobigjools, all you have to do is remove the class="downlaod" from the utl20:01
beunoer20:01
beunoul20:01
beunoand it's fixed20:01
bigjoolswhat will that do, exactly?20:01
beunobigjools, not have a sprite that spans the whole list20:02
beunosince it's on the ul, which is multiline20:02
beunoit exposes all the icons in the sprite20:02
bigjoolsah20:03
bigjoolsput it on the <a> instead maybe20:03
beunowell20:03
beunoyes20:04
beunoand drop the img20:04
beunowill save one http hit  :)20:04
bigjoolsI'm all for that20:04
kikosiretart, is keepassx's bug tracker really SF?21:02
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IntuitiveNipplePPA fails to build a karmic LPIA package because of build-depends failures (on other same-PPA packages) but the i386 and amd64 packages build OK. Where do I start?22:45
LarstiQare those other packages built for lpia?22:48
IntuitiveNippleYes22:48
wgrantNCommander: Actually, bigjools was wrong.23:22
wgrantNCommander: 'Duplicated ancestry' means 'wait for the publisher to run again'23:22
wgrantNCommander: The problem is that an override creates a new source publishing, with status Pending. But the old one doesn't get marked Superseded until the publisher runs. So if a build finishes after an override but before the publisher, it will see that there are two possibilities for sources that it built from.23:25
wgrantso it dies.23:26
wgrantwhen it should just take the Pending SPPH.23:26

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