| hggdh | darn! | 00:03 |
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| hggdh | I give up. How can I restore bloody GM on 3.0 ffox? | 00:03 |
| micahg | can;t you jsut reinstall the extension? | 00:04 |
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| Ampelbein | hggdh: what seems to be the problem with greasemonkey? It works just fine here with FF 3.5 | 00:15 |
| hggdh | Ampelbein, mine is disabled, stating it is not compatible with 3.5.2 | 00:25 |
| hggdh | I am almost to the point where it is worth the pain to just rm -rf the ffox profile, and start new | 00:26 |
| micahg | what version is your extension? | 00:26 |
| Ampelbein | hggdh: strange. what version of greasemonkey do you have, it works here with 0.8.20090123.1-0ubuntu2 | 00:26 |
| micahg | hggdh you can test with a new profile firefox-3.5 -ProfileManager | 00:26 |
| hggdh | yay, that's mine | 00:29 |
| hggdh | heh. It is back | 00:32 |
| hggdh | (on 3.0) | 00:32 |
| hggdh | well. Go figure. Nothing like a selective cleanup of the profile... | 00:39 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: Bug #390304 is actually pretty big... | 01:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 390304 in devicekit-disks "external usb disk drives are mounted under their UUID's" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390304 | 01:43 |
| chrisccoulson | why? | 01:43 |
| chrisccoulson | using UUID's as the mount point is intended, and is not considered a bug | 01:44 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: "using UUID's as the mount point is intended" -where do you get this from? | 01:55 |
| chrisccoulson | from the source code of devicekit-disks? | 02:00 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: yes, but it creates a regression as compared to previous releases | 02:00 |
| chrisccoulson | the design intent is to use UUID's as a fallback if the volume has no label | 02:00 |
| chrisccoulson | so if you don't want UUID's, set a label on your volume | 02:00 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: the fact that the design of devicekit makes it that way is a side effect of moving to devicekit, users should not have to set labels on disks | 02:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't see what the issue is here. UUID's and labels are persistent. "disk-1", "disk-2" etc are not persistent, and depend on the order in which you inser the volume | 02:01 |
| chrisccoulson | thats more confusin | 02:01 |
| chrisccoulson | g | 02:01 |
| chrisccoulson | and there are still human readable names in computer:///, which is how most people will access their media | 02:02 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: plus many of our documentation makes reference to out use of mountpoints such as /media/disk, disk-1, disk-2 | 02:02 |
| chrisccoulson | well, the documentation should be fixed then | 02:02 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: please place a comment concerning consistency in the bug - i see where you're coming from now | 02:03 |
| chrisccoulson | komputes - i will do. i was going to write a comment when i set the importance earlier, but i did it from my phone and i had coverage problems when i tried to do it | 02:03 |
| chrisccoulson | but i'm going to bed now, so i'll do it in the morning | 02:03 |
| komputes | k, np | 02:03 |
| komputes | i'll put a note in then | 02:04 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: night' | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not saying it's not a bug though - perhaps the behaviour will be changed | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | but i don't think it's a high priority issue right now | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | and it's the intended behaviour "for now" ;) | 02:04 |
| komputes | but you do make a good point about persistence, i just wanted to avoid alienating users | 02:04 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: medium importance? | 02:05 |
| chrisccoulson | personally, i don't have much preference either way. but i do slightly prefer the persistence | 02:05 |
| chrisccoulson | komputes - i think the importance is ok where it is for now | 02:05 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, i've got to go to bed - i'm up again in 4 hours ;) | 02:05 |
| komputes | advanced users would prefer persistence, new users, easy names | 02:06 |
| komputes | k 'night | 02:06 |
| chrisccoulson | possibly, but new users get easy names in computer:/// | 02:06 |
| komputes | path | 02:06 |
| komputes | easy name in the path | 02:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i hope new users don't think they have to navigate to /media to find their volumes | 02:06 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 02:06 |
| komputes | no, but they may need to point some programs to it that way | 02:06 |
| komputes | we both have strong points, i'll update the bug | 02:07 |
| chrisccoulson | komputes - you're possibly right about pointing some programs to it using the path - but most applications on the default install should be using GIO anyway | 02:07 |
| komputes | i agree | 02:08 |
| komputes | but not all do | 02:08 |
| chrisccoulson | so the media is accessible in computer:/// by its pretty name ;) | 02:08 |
| komputes | computer:/// is a gnome thing | 02:08 |
| komputes | let's not assume | 02:08 |
| komputes | Plus, haven't checked but this may affect server, so without auto-complete it makes the job of typing in a path impossible.. | 02:09 |
| chrisccoulson | komputes - there is nothing to do automounting on the server | 02:10 |
| komputes | ok | 02:11 |
| chrisccoulson | the automounting is initiated in nautilus via gvfs in gnome | 02:11 |
| komputes | chrisccoulson: what does device kit replace in karmic? HAL/UDEV? | 02:11 |
| chrisccoulson | well, there is no such thing as devicekit now - applications now use udev directly (using libudev) | 02:12 |
| chrisccoulson | devicekit-disks is to replace the disk handling part of HAL | 02:13 |
| chrisccoulson | and devicekit-power replaces some power management parts of HAL | 02:13 |
| komputes | ok, thanks for clarifying | 02:13 |
| chrisccoulson | and applications that previously used HAL for discovering devices and properties about those devices now probe udev directly | 02:13 |
| chrisccoulson | "devicekit" was just a temporary daemon acting as a wrapper around udev to allow user applications to access it | 02:14 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:03 |
| thekorn | good morning dholbach | 07:11 |
| dholbach | hey thekorn | 07:13 |
| theaaronc | Hello all. Question, would the BugSquad be an ok place for someone who is somewhat competent with Ubuntu but has never done anything within the community? | 08:57 |
| theaaronc | While I've used Ubuntu as a second partition on my machine for some time I only recently dropped windows all together. I'm looking for some way I can contribute, and the Ubuntu community page lead me to (among other things) the BugSquad info | 09:01 |
| theaaronc | it sounds like something that requires minimal knowledge and beyond operating the local desktop/server environment I fall into that catagory | 09:03 |
| theaaronc | guess I should have just read more. This line seems to answer my question "Bug triage is an excellent way to start helping out. You get to learn a lot about Ubuntu, its available packages, its infrastructure, and you get a feel for the development pulse." | 09:22 |
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| mac_v | could someone have a look at this Bug #416084 , this always happens to me ... do i have to add any additional info? | 13:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416084 in thunderbird "thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_main_do_event()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416084 | 13:43 |
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| thekorn | mac_v, are you using the default theme? | 14:25 |
| mac_v | hmm. no | 14:26 |
| mac_v | i'm using silvermel , | 14:26 |
| mac_v | theaaronc: silvermelXT , but i'v been having this problem always :( only now it took the time to report it | 14:27 |
| thekorn | mac_v, can you reproduce this bug with the default theme | 14:27 |
| mac_v | hmm... let me check again | 14:27 |
| thekorn | I remeber a bug where somethng like this happend for some custom themes | 14:28 |
| thekorn | I think it was bug 135191 | 14:29 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 135191 in mozilla-thunderbird "[GUTSY] thunderbird crashed x86-64" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135191 | 14:29 |
| mac_v | thekorn: i think you are right ! its not crashing with the default theme! so where should this be reported | 14:31 |
| thekorn | mac_v, is the theme you are using in an official package? | 14:32 |
| thekorn | in this case you should report it against this package | 14:33 |
| mac_v | silly quest, are there official themes , i never knew... let me check | 14:33 |
| thekorn | what's the name of the theme? | 14:34 |
| mac_v | theaaronc: silvermel is a thunderbird theme , not a gtk theme , that bug talks about a gtk theme | 14:34 |
| mac_v | oops , thekorn ^ | 14:35 |
| thekorn | oh | 14:35 |
| mac_v | i'll try it with another different theme and see , i have been using silvermel for a very long time | 14:36 |
| thekorn | mac_v, In this case I think you should contact the author of this theme, report your bug there, | 14:36 |
| thekorn | and mark it as invalid for thunderbird | 14:36 |
| thekorn | but maybe double check with the people in #ubuntu-mozilla | 14:37 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, just wondering, why did you tagged the bug as usability ? | 14:37 |
| mac_v | yeah , if it doesnt happen to any other theme , i'll mark it invalid , or if it happens with all themes , i'll leave it as such :) | 14:37 |
| thekorn | (or whatever this channel for the mozilla team is called) | 14:38 |
| mac_v | pedro_: it affects me using thunderbird ;p , i have not been able to use it when the setting was set to 1 min | 14:38 |
| thekorn | hey pedro_ | 14:38 |
| pedro_ | hello thekorn, how's going? | 14:38 |
| mac_v | pedro_: was that a wrong tag? | 14:39 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, well in that case every single crash would be an usability issue :-P | 14:39 |
| mac_v | lol , true , i'll remove it :) | 14:39 |
| thekorn | pedro_, very good, how about you? | 14:40 |
| scream | CAn someone check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/416952 | 14:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416952 in ubuntu "Package not in repo" [Undecided,New] | 14:41 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, no worries, thanks! | 14:41 |
| thekorn | scream, this is not a bug we can care about, you are using a third party repository for thunderbird | 14:42 |
| pedro_ | thekorn, nice to know!. I'm good too ;-) | 14:42 |
| scream | I am? | 14:42 |
| * scream checks | 14:42 | |
| scream | I have no third part repo's enabled. | 14:43 |
| thekorn | scream, ehmm, maybe not, but you are using a mirror, so maybe it is out of sync or such | 14:44 |
| thekorn | or just not available | 14:44 |
| thekorn | best is to check with whoever runs this mirror | 14:44 |
| scream | I actually just changed to the "main server" in the settings. | 15:10 |
| scream | I don't have time for mirrors who get out of sync. | 15:10 |
| mac_v | pedro_: thekorn i cant reproduce the problem with any other theme! so i guess i'll invalidate it and send an email to the dev :) | 15:16 |
| mac_v | thekorn: thanx for pointing it out :) , this bugged me for god knows how long! | 15:17 |
| thekorn | mac_v, no problem, remember setting the status of the bug to invalid ;) | 15:46 |
| thekorn | and maybe add a comment which explains that this seems to be related to the theme | 15:47 |
| thekorn | for future references | 15:47 |
| mac_v | thekorn: will do , just have to restart for updates now ;) | 15:48 |
| thekorn | super | 15:49 |
| jjardon | hello, Can someone confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/416988 | 16:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416988 in network-manager "NetworkManager doesn't depend on hal" [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
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| thekorn | jjardon, sorry, but what exactly is the bug here? | 16:11 |
| thekorn | jjardon, ah, I think I got it now, the ubuntu package is still depending on hal, although it shouldn't | 16:12 |
| jjardon | thekorn, network-manager package is packaged with hal dependecy, and this is not necesary | 16:12 |
| jjardon | thekorn, correct ;) | 16:13 |
| dholbach | asac: ^ :) | 16:13 |
| * thekorn was about to do the same trick than dholbach | 16:15 | |
| thekorn | ask someone who should have a answer to this ;) | 16:16 |
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| asac | yeah... thats our ace ;) | 16:25 |
| asac | assigning to tony | 16:25 |
| asac | ok done | 16:26 |
| asac | jjardon: thekorn: dholbach: ^^ | 16:26 |
| jjardon | great :) | 16:26 |
| asac | launchpad timeout :( | 16:26 |
| thekorn | super, thanks asac | 16:26 |
| goneri | Hi, how can I close this bug #347729 I did the patch and it's been accepted but I can close the bug. Should I use the "bts" command? | 16:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 347729 in bzr-fastimport "git-bzr doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347729 | 16:27 |
| goneri | s/can/can't/ upse | 16:27 |
| jjardon | asac, only xorg-core and checkbox depends on hal rigth now :) (checkbox bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/399319) | 16:28 |
| goneri | I can't find a documentation about that. Just this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl but | 16:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 399319 in checkbox "Remove the HAL dependency from Launchpad HWDB and checkbox " [Medium,Triaged] | 16:28 |
| asac | yes | 16:29 |
| asac | jjardon: are you sure we still build depend on it in karmic? | 16:29 |
| asac | yeah seems so | 16:29 |
| asac | ok | 16:29 |
| hessam | where can i find ubuntu security bugs ? | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | hessam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BugTriage#Existing%20Bugs | 16:41 |
| hessam | jdstrand, thanks | 16:42 |
| greg-g | pedro_: I guess [$distroname] in the summary is no longer needed/suggested? | 16:49 |
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| pedro_ | greg-g, i don't recall that was it ever suggested, but it's redundant if you use apport-bug since that information is available on the description | 16:54 |
| pedro_ | greg-g, and it's better to update the description rather than the title if the bug affects more than one release, I've seen weird titles with [hardy..... karmic] or [karmic<->something] etc | 16:56 |
| greg-g | pedro_: right right. I guess it was always one of those things where I see other people doing it and joined in the fun :) | 16:56 |
| greg-g | heh, yeah | 16:56 |
| pedro_ | remember: a kitten die if you do it :-P | 16:57 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, how many kittens left do we have? | 16:57 |
| pedro_ | :-P | 16:57 |
| hggdh | pedro_, I would guess we may be running out of them soon if we do not act ;-) | 17:01 |
| pedro_ | lol | 17:02 |
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| mac_v | pedro_: hi, could you take a look at this > https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/416251/comments/5 , i'v attached a screencast of the problem | 21:58 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 416251 in nautilus "Nautilus does not show Desktop thumbnails" [Low,Triaged] | 21:58 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, will do | 21:58 |
| mac_v | thanx | 21:58 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, eek weird, is the file listed if you do: gvfs-ls from a terminal ? | 22:02 |
| mac_v | hmm.... will check | 22:02 |
| pedro_ | there was something similar when we migrated to gvfs | 22:03 |
| mac_v | pedro_: yup the file gets listed , but is only not shown | 22:04 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, ok thanks | 22:04 |
| mac_v | i'll add that to the upstream comment | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | hey fellows | 22:29 |
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