| pincy | hi | 00:18 |
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| pincy | i want to get a hidden psk-secured wlan working, but with the network manager, my system crashes | 00:19 |
| meglo | Xubuntu just looks like Ubuntu without metacity, nautilus, and the panels. Looks like it has all the gnome libs and configuration utilities. | 00:58 |
| meglo | How much ram am I looking at saving? | 00:58 |
| meglo | the disk footprint is nice | 00:58 |
| meglo | Virtualbox is hungry | 01:00 |
| meglo | Mmmmmm, the next LTS probably wont have Xfce 4.8 | 01:02 |
| meglo | Planned release for xfce 4.8 is 2010-04-12 | 01:03 |
| kholby | Good evening everyone. I'm having some trouble with a few things running xubuntu on an older PC. Hold for specs... | 03:00 |
| kholby | Running kernel 2.6.28.15 with 180MB of memory (thought it had more, may be bad), can't get DVD playback or flash movies to work correctly. | 03:02 |
| kholby | anyone? | 03:04 |
| Laserbeak431 | hello | 03:24 |
| Laserbeak431 | i want to download the JDK, but the only two downloads are a .bin and a .rpm | 03:25 |
| Laserbeak431 | which do i choose? | 03:25 |
| Laserbeak431 | how do i useeither? | 03:25 |
| Laserbeak431 | use either* | 03:25 |
| Laserbeak431 | hmm maybe #ubuntu is more active | 03:29 |
| FloridaGuy | hardware drivers is telling my there is no proprietary drivers are in use on this system..its not listing them so i can install them | 04:45 |
| maduser | what drivers do you have? | 04:46 |
| FloridaGuy | i have nvidia gforce6...the drivers show up in package manager but not in the gui where you activate them | 04:47 |
| maduser | install them through the package manager | 04:49 |
| FloridaGuy | k | 04:49 |
| FloridaGuy | been useing ubuntu installed xubuntu to try a lighter desktop for vbox..how much lighter is xubuntu | 04:58 |
| maduser | the only difference between the two is that xubuntu has xfce instead of Gnome | 05:00 |
| FloridaGuy | i know that....but is xfce any lighter | 05:00 |
| maduser | sort of | 05:01 |
| FloridaGuy | k | 05:02 |
| maduser | it uses less ram and space but its still a Desktop Environment | 05:02 |
| FloridaGuy | thats what i was wanting..something that uses less ram...sence im runing xp in vbox | 05:02 |
| FloridaGuy | the printer drivers in linux suck....my printer prints better photos in windows | 05:04 |
| FloridaGuy | reboot and see if nvidia works | 05:05 |
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| benchik | hello | 09:15 |
| benchik | what's the latest xubuntu 8.04 kernel? | 09:15 |
| _Pete_ | benchik: 2.6.24-24 | 10:03 |
| benchik | how do i reinstall this kernel in xubuntu? what's the package name? | 10:03 |
| _Pete_ | why do you need to reinstall it? | 10:04 |
| benchik | i think i accidently installed linux-image-generic package. i need | 10:04 |
| benchik | another one right? | 10:05 |
| TheSheep | no | 10:05 |
| TheSheep | !info linux-image-generic | 10:05 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.28.15.20 (jaunty), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB | 10:05 |
| benchik | i have installed: linux-image-generic , linux-image-2.6.24-24-386 , linux-image-2.6.24-24-generic. do i need all of them? | 10:06 |
| TheSheep | no | 10:07 |
| TheSheep | type uname -a to see which you are using atm | 10:07 |
| benchik | i suspect that when installing virtualbox kernel modules, something got messed up in my kernels. when i go back to kernel 23 gstreamer works fine and also skype. which both fail under 24 | 10:07 |
| benchik | Linux xubuntu 2.6.24-24-386 #1 Tue Aug 18 16:24:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 10:07 |
| TheSheep | ok, then you can remove the two -generic packages | 10:08 |
| benchik | from the above kernel models is any of the 3 an extra which i don't need? | 10:08 |
| benchik | ok | 10:08 |
| TheSheep | but I'd use the -generic one, and not the -386 if I were you | 10:08 |
| benchik | TheSheep: from the kernels i have installed (in history the old ones are kept), i had before 24 also generic ones and not 386 ones and they worked fine. so maybe i should keep only linux-image-2.6.24-24-generic ? | 10:10 |
| TheSheep | if you want to do that, you have to first reboot to the -generic one | 10:10 |
| TheSheep | because you shouldn't remove the kernel you are running :) | 10:11 |
| TheSheep | it's like sawing off the branch on which you sit | 10:11 |
| benchik | should i in synaptic: mark for complete removal or just remove? | 10:11 |
| benchik | TheSheep: do i get in grub both generic and 386 choices? | 10:12 |
| TheSheep | yes | 10:13 |
| benchik | will try. brb | 10:14 |
| benchik | TheSheep: in generic now. everything works great. who asked to install 386 kernel anyway?! | 10:17 |
| benchik | TheSheep: now, in synaptic can i mark for complete removal or i need some of the dependencies and should mark only for removal? | 10:18 |
| benchik | TheSheep: please one sec of attention, sir :) | 10:21 |
| nikolam | Bah, is there some GUI that allows me to search content of text files and see in what files results are found? | 10:21 |
| TheSheep | benchik: doesn't matter, you can even leave it around | 10:23 |
| benchik | TheSheep: ok thanks | 10:24 |
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| jiohdi | how do I get a ooffice xcel like file to open from a launcher? | 12:51 |
| jiohdi | I get permission denied | 12:51 |
| jiohdi | I specifically get :Failed to execute child process "/home/jiohdi/finances/finances.xls" (Permission denied). | 12:52 |
| jiohdi | anyone here? | 12:54 |
| jdb | jiohdi: why do you want to execute an xls file? | 12:58 |
| jiohdi | I update a spread sheet often | 12:59 |
| jiohdi | so I want to just be able to click on it to open it | 12:59 |
| jiohdi | I can do it in gnome... but in xfce4 it tells me permission denied | 13:00 |
| jiohdi | is there a way to put a link to the file on the desktop? | 13:01 |
| jiohdi | I am new to xfce | 13:01 |
| ablomen | jiohdi, edit the launcher and put oocalc before the path | 13:02 |
| jiohdi | I found how to send a link to the desktop | 13:02 |
| jiohdi | ok, in the launcher... do you keep the ' ' around the path? | 13:03 |
| ablomen | doesnt matter in this case | 13:03 |
| jiohdi | thanks ablomen, yous is a genius :) | 13:04 |
| ablomen | hehe your welcome | 13:04 |
| jiohdi | worked better than a charm, they dont work for $#!+ | 13:04 |
| jiohdi | ablomen, is there anything besides eyecandy that cannot be done in xfce? | 13:05 |
| ablomen | well eyecandy is possible, afaik compiz works with xfce (and there is real transparancy in xfwm too btw) | 13:06 |
| jiohdi | so why would anyone use gnome over xfce? | 13:07 |
| jiohdi | is there a way to change the panel colors? | 13:08 |
| ablomen | yeah.. change your theme | 13:08 |
| ablomen | not induvidialy per panel | 13:09 |
| ablomen | or at least, not that i know of | 13:09 |
| jiohdi | thanks again... once I get the feel of where things are they are very similar to gnome | 13:14 |
| vinnl | Hmm... Would upgrading my system with slightly less than 1GB of free space be wise? | 13:23 |
| hezy | vinnl: upgrading to what? | 13:24 |
| knome | it should be barely possible. | 13:24 |
| vinnl | Upgrading to 9.04, sorry | 13:24 |
| vinnl | OK, I guess I'll see if I can delete anything to be sure | 13:24 |
| hezy | I used it with 512 MB, and there was no problem | 13:25 |
| hezy | the only app that was problematic is firefox | 13:25 |
| knome | hezy, it's not about ram | 13:25 |
| knome | hezy, it's about free disk space | 13:25 |
| vinnl | Nope, it's actual hard drive space :P | 13:25 |
| hezy | sorry, my mistake... | 13:25 |
| * vinnl blushes | 13:25 | |
| vinnl | But I've decided to buy an external hard drive soon, that should solve some problems ;-) | 13:26 |
| knome | vinnl, ? :P | 13:26 |
| knome | vinnl, remove all the... nature documentaries | 13:26 |
| vinnl | xD | 13:26 |
| hezy | 1GP disk space sounds too little | 13:26 |
| knome | you should be fine in upgrading after that | 13:26 |
| vinnl | Actually, it's only 1GB outside that /home directory | 13:26 |
| vinnl | So it's all applications and stuff filling it up | 13:26 |
| knome | have to go now | 13:27 |
| knome | see you later dudes | 13:27 |
| vinnl | In my defense, that partition is only 9.32GB large | 13:27 |
| vinnl | Bye | 13:27 |
| premorphos_ | hi. how do i move and extract a tar file in to a root catalouge | 13:48 |
| vinnl | premorphos_, not sure what a root catalogue is, but you can extract it by right-clicking and selecting "Extract here..." or "Extract to..." | 13:49 |
| Cristi1 | hey | 13:49 |
| vinnl | Hi Cristi1 | 13:49 |
| Cristi1 | heywhat are xubuntu minimum hardware req? | 13:49 |
| vinnl | Cristi1, see xubuntu.org/get#requirements | 13:50 |
| premorphos_ | you see that dint work.. got permission denied | 13:54 |
| premorphos_ | was thinking to do it true terminal, with sudo | 13:55 |
| vinnl | premorphos_, what file is it and where is it located? | 13:56 |
| premorphos_ | i got it on desktop.. and it is flash install.tar.gz im trying to setup flash for opera. | 13:58 |
| vinnl | premorphos_, why don't you install Flash using Add/Remove...? | 13:58 |
| premorphos_ | did it true synaptic and it dint work in opera... do you think it will do any difference if i do it in add/remove | 14:00 |
| vinnl | No Synaptic should work just as well | 14:01 |
| vinnl | !opera | 14:01 |
| ubottu | opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser | 14:01 |
| vinnl | premorphos_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#Flash%20problems | 14:01 |
| premorphos_ | tnx man... dint know you could ask ubottu | 14:02 |
| vinnl | Everybody loves ubottu :) | 14:02 |
| vinnl | Can I see on packages.ubuntu.com which packages depend on a given package? | 14:26 |
| vinnl | Or else: could someone on 9.04 check for me which packages depend on kdebase-runtime? | 14:27 |
| vinnl | Or perhaps compiz-kde? | 14:27 |
| majuk | vinni: apt-cache depends | 14:38 |
| majuk | vinni: apt-cache depends $PACKAGENAME | 14:38 |
| vinnl | Yeah except I'm not on 9.04 :( | 14:39 |
| wweasel | Hello, I've created an xubuntu chroot environment which I am using to launch X apps. I chose not to install xubuntu-desktop, since it contained many packages I didn't want. Instead I installed xfce4-session and all its dependencies, plus a few other selected packages. My problem is this: it seems XFCE is not displaying a theme. Apps are ugly, thunar doesn't display folder icons, etc. What package do I need? | 18:11 |
| vinnl | wweasel, wouldn't you rather install the xfce4 package? | 18:11 |
| wweasel | aha, probably :) | 18:12 |
| wweasel | hrm, except that I really probably don't need all the xserver packages that it depends on, no? | 18:13 |
| vinnl | Really not sure, would expect you to need it but if it works without it now... | 18:14 |
| wweasel | Well, I'm just guessing here, but I think it's taken care of by my main system. I am running X apps in a Xephyr display on my main Ubuntu system. | 18:17 |
| wweasel | I just can't seem to figure out which package has the xfce4 theme in it | 18:17 |
| wweasel | I can launch apps right now, but they don't have themed menus, scroll bar, icons, etc. | 18:18 |
| wweasel | It works, it's just not very easy on the eyes :P | 18:18 |
| vinnl | Well, it's just a GTK theme so you should be able to set it with the GNOME app as well, I suppose you'd need something like xfce4-settings to configure it | 18:18 |
| vinnl | ...with the Xfce application | 18:18 |
| wweasel | Good idea. | 18:20 |
| wweasel | The xfce4 package is actually just a metapackage, like xubuntu-desktop. I think I just need to find the right combination of packages, since I'm trying to avoid unnecessary ones. | 18:21 |
| vinnl | Yeah, well, the xfce4 package *should* give you the minimal packages needed to run a full Xfce environment, so without Office apps and the like that you'd get with xubuntu-desktop | 18:22 |
| wweasel | Yes, it does. But because I'm running XFCE in a chroot environment, I think it still has a bit of fluff I can do without. I don't know all the various components of XFCE well enough to know precisely which ones I need and which I don't (I use Gnome most of the time, and probably don't even know Gnome well enough for that). | 18:24 |
| wweasel | Right now I'm going ahead with your suggestion, and selecting all the packages that "xfce4" depends on except for the xserver-*** ones | 18:25 |
| vinnl | I suppose you'd need the actual Xfce components (that start with xfce- and xf- and the likes), wouldn't know about xserver and stuff | 18:25 |
| wweasel | Yep. Unfortunately I have them now, and it's still not displaying a theme :/ | 18:26 |
| wweasel | I can even see the themes are installed (I launched xfce4-settings-manager as you suggested) | 18:26 |
| vinnl | Hmm, selecting a theme doesn't make a difference? | 18:26 |
| wweasel | Nope! It has the usual long list of themes and 2 icon themes, but no matter which I choose, none work | 18:27 |
| wweasel | I'm assuming it's lacking a component which allows it to display the themes. | 18:29 |
| vinnl | I think there's something wrong with GTK that it's not applying the themes | 18:30 |
| vinnl | Which might be the lack of an X server :P | 18:30 |
| wweasel | Possibly :P | 18:31 |
| wweasel | Window Manager themes work | 18:31 |
| vinnl | But I gots to go, good luck :) | 18:31 |
| vinnl | Of course, that's xfwm4 :) | 18:31 |
| JarlG | Hello! I installed ubuntu, then installed xfce and removed GNOME, is my installation now the same as a clean xubuntu installation? | 18:46 |
| JarlG | What would the differences be? | 18:46 |
| JarlG | Also, the update manager lists GNOME-things, should I update my sources list to one of xubuntu, perhaps? Thanks! | 18:47 |
| Algyz | My weather panel plugin is not updating, what can be wrong? | 20:13 |
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