[00:18] hi [00:19] i want to get a hidden psk-secured wlan working, but with the network manager, my system crashes [00:58] Xubuntu just looks like Ubuntu without metacity, nautilus, and the panels. Looks like it has all the gnome libs and configuration utilities. [00:58] How much ram am I looking at saving? [00:58] the disk footprint is nice [01:00] Virtualbox is hungry [01:02] Mmmmmm, the next LTS probably wont have Xfce 4.8 [01:03] Planned release for xfce 4.8 is 2010-04-12 [03:00] Good evening everyone. I'm having some trouble with a few things running xubuntu on an older PC. Hold for specs... [03:02] Running kernel 2.6.28.15 with 180MB of memory (thought it had more, may be bad), can't get DVD playback or flash movies to work correctly. [03:04] anyone? [03:24] hello [03:25] i want to download the JDK, but the only two downloads are a .bin and a .rpm [03:25] which do i choose? [03:25] how do i useeither? [03:25] use either* [03:29] hmm maybe #ubuntu is more active [04:45] hardware drivers is telling my there is no proprietary drivers are in use on this system..its not listing them so i can install them [04:46] what drivers do you have? [04:47] i have nvidia gforce6...the drivers show up in package manager but not in the gui where you activate them [04:49] install them through the package manager [04:49] k [04:58] been useing ubuntu installed xubuntu to try a lighter desktop for vbox..how much lighter is xubuntu [05:00] the only difference between the two is that xubuntu has xfce instead of Gnome [05:00] i know that....but is xfce any lighter [05:01] sort of [05:02] k [05:02] it uses less ram and space but its still a Desktop Environment [05:02] thats what i was wanting..something that uses less ram...sence im runing xp in vbox [05:04] the printer drivers in linux suck....my printer prints better photos in windows [05:05] reboot and see if nvidia works === majuk is now known as mjauk === mjauk is now known as majuk === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [09:15] hello [09:15] what's the latest xubuntu 8.04 kernel? [10:03] <_Pete_> benchik: 2.6.24-24 [10:03] how do i reinstall this kernel in xubuntu? what's the package name? [10:04] <_Pete_> why do you need to reinstall it? [10:04] i think i accidently installed linux-image-generic package. i need [10:05] another one right? [10:05] no [10:05] !info linux-image-generic [10:05] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.28.15.20 (jaunty), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB [10:06] i have installed: linux-image-generic , linux-image-2.6.24-24-386 , linux-image-2.6.24-24-generic. do i need all of them? [10:07] no [10:07] type uname -a to see which you are using atm [10:07] i suspect that when installing virtualbox kernel modules, something got messed up in my kernels. when i go back to kernel 23 gstreamer works fine and also skype. which both fail under 24 [10:07] Linux xubuntu 2.6.24-24-386 #1 Tue Aug 18 16:24:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [10:08] ok, then you can remove the two -generic packages [10:08] from the above kernel models is any of the 3 an extra which i don't need? [10:08] ok [10:08] but I'd use the -generic one, and not the -386 if I were you [10:10] TheSheep: from the kernels i have installed (in history the old ones are kept), i had before 24 also generic ones and not 386 ones and they worked fine. so maybe i should keep only linux-image-2.6.24-24-generic ? [10:10] if you want to do that, you have to first reboot to the -generic one [10:11] because you shouldn't remove the kernel you are running :) [10:11] it's like sawing off the branch on which you sit [10:11] should i in synaptic: mark for complete removal or just remove? [10:12] TheSheep: do i get in grub both generic and 386 choices? [10:13] yes [10:14] will try. brb [10:17] TheSheep: in generic now. everything works great. who asked to install 386 kernel anyway?! [10:18] TheSheep: now, in synaptic can i mark for complete removal or i need some of the dependencies and should mark only for removal? [10:21] TheSheep: please one sec of attention, sir :) [10:21] Bah, is there some GUI that allows me to search content of text files and see in what files results are found? [10:23] benchik: doesn't matter, you can even leave it around [10:24] TheSheep: ok thanks === majuk1 is now known as majuk [12:51] how do I get a ooffice xcel like file to open from a launcher? [12:51] I get permission denied [12:52] I specifically get :Failed to execute child process "/home/jiohdi/finances/finances.xls" (Permission denied). [12:54] anyone here? [12:58] jiohdi: why do you want to execute an xls file? [12:59] I update a spread sheet often [12:59] so I want to just be able to click on it to open it [13:00] I can do it in gnome... but in xfce4 it tells me permission denied [13:01] is there a way to put a link to the file on the desktop? [13:01] I am new to xfce [13:02] jiohdi, edit the launcher and put oocalc before the path [13:02] I found how to send a link to the desktop [13:03] ok, in the launcher... do you keep the ' ' around the path? [13:03] doesnt matter in this case [13:04] thanks ablomen, yous is a genius :) [13:04] hehe your welcome [13:04] worked better than a charm, they dont work for $#!+ [13:05] ablomen, is there anything besides eyecandy that cannot be done in xfce? [13:06] well eyecandy is possible, afaik compiz works with xfce (and there is real transparancy in xfwm too btw) [13:07] so why would anyone use gnome over xfce? [13:08] is there a way to change the panel colors? [13:08] yeah.. change your theme [13:09] not induvidialy per panel [13:09] or at least, not that i know of [13:14] thanks again... once I get the feel of where things are they are very similar to gnome [13:23] Hmm... Would upgrading my system with slightly less than 1GB of free space be wise? [13:24] vinnl: upgrading to what? [13:24] it should be barely possible. [13:24] Upgrading to 9.04, sorry [13:24] OK, I guess I'll see if I can delete anything to be sure [13:25] I used it with 512 MB, and there was no problem [13:25] the only app that was problematic is firefox [13:25] hezy, it's not about ram [13:25] hezy, it's about free disk space [13:25] Nope, it's actual hard drive space :P [13:25] sorry, my mistake... [13:25] * vinnl blushes [13:26] But I've decided to buy an external hard drive soon, that should solve some problems ;-) [13:26] vinnl, ? :P [13:26] vinnl, remove all the... nature documentaries [13:26] xD [13:26] 1GP disk space sounds too little [13:26] you should be fine in upgrading after that [13:26] Actually, it's only 1GB outside that /home directory [13:26] So it's all applications and stuff filling it up [13:27] have to go now [13:27] see you later dudes [13:27] In my defense, that partition is only 9.32GB large [13:27] Bye [13:48] hi. how do i move and extract a tar file in to a root catalouge [13:49] premorphos_, not sure what a root catalogue is, but you can extract it by right-clicking and selecting "Extract here..." or "Extract to..." [13:49] hey [13:49] Hi Cristi1 [13:49] heywhat are xubuntu minimum hardware req? [13:50] Cristi1, see xubuntu.org/get#requirements [13:54] you see that dint work.. got permission denied [13:55] was thinking to do it true terminal, with sudo [13:56] premorphos_, what file is it and where is it located? [13:58] i got it on desktop.. and it is flash install.tar.gz im trying to setup flash for opera. [13:58] premorphos_, why don't you install Flash using Add/Remove...? [14:00] did it true synaptic and it dint work in opera... do you think it will do any difference if i do it in add/remove [14:01] No Synaptic should work just as well [14:01] !opera [14:01] opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [14:01] premorphos_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#Flash%20problems [14:02] tnx man... dint know you could ask ubottu [14:02] Everybody loves ubottu :) [14:26] Can I see on packages.ubuntu.com which packages depend on a given package? [14:27] Or else: could someone on 9.04 check for me which packages depend on kdebase-runtime? [14:27] Or perhaps compiz-kde? [14:38] vinni: apt-cache depends [14:38] vinni: apt-cache depends $PACKAGENAME [14:39] Yeah except I'm not on 9.04 :( [18:11] Hello, I've created an xubuntu chroot environment which I am using to launch X apps. I chose not to install xubuntu-desktop, since it contained many packages I didn't want. Instead I installed xfce4-session and all its dependencies, plus a few other selected packages. My problem is this: it seems XFCE is not displaying a theme. Apps are ugly, thunar doesn't display folder icons, etc. What package do I need? [18:11] wweasel, wouldn't you rather install the xfce4 package? [18:12] aha, probably :) [18:13] hrm, except that I really probably don't need all the xserver packages that it depends on, no? [18:14] Really not sure, would expect you to need it but if it works without it now... [18:17] Well, I'm just guessing here, but I think it's taken care of by my main system. I am running X apps in a Xephyr display on my main Ubuntu system. [18:17] I just can't seem to figure out which package has the xfce4 theme in it [18:18] I can launch apps right now, but they don't have themed menus, scroll bar, icons, etc. [18:18] It works, it's just not very easy on the eyes :P [18:18] Well, it's just a GTK theme so you should be able to set it with the GNOME app as well, I suppose you'd need something like xfce4-settings to configure it [18:18] ...with the Xfce application [18:20] Good idea. [18:21] The xfce4 package is actually just a metapackage, like xubuntu-desktop. I think I just need to find the right combination of packages, since I'm trying to avoid unnecessary ones. [18:22] Yeah, well, the xfce4 package *should* give you the minimal packages needed to run a full Xfce environment, so without Office apps and the like that you'd get with xubuntu-desktop [18:24] Yes, it does. But because I'm running XFCE in a chroot environment, I think it still has a bit of fluff I can do without. I don't know all the various components of XFCE well enough to know precisely which ones I need and which I don't (I use Gnome most of the time, and probably don't even know Gnome well enough for that). [18:25] Right now I'm going ahead with your suggestion, and selecting all the packages that "xfce4" depends on except for the xserver-*** ones [18:25] I suppose you'd need the actual Xfce components (that start with xfce- and xf- and the likes), wouldn't know about xserver and stuff [18:26] Yep. Unfortunately I have them now, and it's still not displaying a theme :/ [18:26] I can even see the themes are installed (I launched xfce4-settings-manager as you suggested) [18:26] Hmm, selecting a theme doesn't make a difference? [18:27] Nope! It has the usual long list of themes and 2 icon themes, but no matter which I choose, none work [18:29] I'm assuming it's lacking a component which allows it to display the themes. [18:30] I think there's something wrong with GTK that it's not applying the themes [18:30] Which might be the lack of an X server :P [18:31] Possibly :P [18:31] Window Manager themes work [18:31] But I gots to go, good luck :) [18:31] Of course, that's xfwm4 :) [18:46] Hello! I installed ubuntu, then installed xfce and removed GNOME, is my installation now the same as a clean xubuntu installation? [18:46] What would the differences be? [18:47] Also, the update manager lists GNOME-things, should I update my sources list to one of xubuntu, perhaps? Thanks! [20:13] My weather panel plugin is not updating, what can be wrong? === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi