[00:09] <apachelogger> also for libflexmock-ruby
[00:10] <apachelogger> and rcov
[00:10] <apachelogger> libtest-unit-ruby needs to be moved from universe to main
[00:10] <apachelogger> +rdoc
[01:51] <apachelogger> I shall never file MIRs again
[01:51] <apachelogger> that was horribl
[01:51] <apachelogger> e
[01:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: we could really use some nice dood who got experience with firefox branding and stuff
[01:52] <ScottK> Not me.
[01:52] <ScottK> Talk to asac.
[01:52] <apachelogger> you could find one though :P
[01:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, I still would need someone to do it
[01:52] <apachelogger> apturl is pretty much ported to KDE
[01:53] <ScottK> Fix lzma-dev stuff and we'll talk.
[01:57] <apachelogger> ~time
[01:57] <kubotu> apachelogger: Europe - Vienna - Sat Aug 22 02:57 CEST
[01:58] <apachelogger> no good time to start haxx0ring on the libs
[02:29] <Gon> where are libqjson sources?
[02:31] <JontheEchidna> the qjson source package
[02:31] <Gon> yes
[02:31] <Gon> I trying to build kopete-facebook plugin
[02:32] <Gon> but, cmake doesn't found qjson
[02:34] <Gon> I have jaunty, but I was installed qjson from karmic "-dev" packages
[11:40] <Riddell> ScottK: mm, I need to script the knetworkmanager po extraction stuff, you can copy it over for now
[13:24] <Riddell> Mamarok: your patience with Steven is admirable but don't spend longer on him than it's worth
[13:25] <Riddell> like with JRT people try to convince him to act socially until one at a time people realise that isn't possible but there's still new person who hasn't realised it yet
[13:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: how does it feel to be famous?
[13:54] <apachelogger> as if I wasn't famous before :)
[13:54]  * apachelogger liked the ruby jewelery part a lot
[13:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, I wrote MIR for kubuntu-firefox-installer and deps, enhanced install-package to accept --attach winID, apturl-kde mostly functional now
[13:59] <Riddell> ooh, apt-url
[13:59] <apachelogger> smarter: you know, I was thinking ... I suppose that technically we could create the kapp in the main script and then implement the apturl mainloop as part of the Qt mainloop
[13:59] <apachelogger> not as hackish as deleteLater() but would probably have the same affect
[13:59] <smarter> hey
[14:00] <smarter> so, the main script wil have an if KDE / else ?
[14:00] <apachelogger> no
[14:00] <apachelogger> we have 2 main scripts anyway
[14:00] <smarter> oh, the __init__?
[14:01] <apachelogger> no
[14:01] <apachelogger> apturl vs. apturl-kde
[14:01] <smarter> ah, that one :p
[14:01] <apachelogger> i.e. the stuff that goes to bin
[14:02] <smarter> having the kapp running from the beginning to the end makes sense
[14:07] <smarter> apachelogger: any idea why the kde ui doesn't correctly display the accented characters while the gtk ui works fine?
[14:07] <apachelogger> accented characters?
[14:08] <smarter> it's UTF-8, but it's displayed as ISO-8859-1
[14:08] <smarter> aka, é --> Ã©
[14:09] <smarter> *accentuated I guess
[14:09] <apachelogger> hm
[14:09] <apachelogger> smarter: screenshot please
[14:10] <smarter> http://imagebin.ca/view/HXjjwa.html
[14:12] <apachelogger> very weird indeed
[14:13] <smarter> python string handling before 3.0 is fubar anyway
[14:13] <smarter> bbiab
[14:40] <khindenburg> Any PyKDE ppl here?
[14:45] <Riddell> khindenburg: a few
[14:51] <khindenburg> Do you know how to get KDE trunk to not install pyKDE4 in /usr but instead under $KDEDIR?
[14:51]  * apachelogger notes that this is pretty tricky since you'd also need to KDEDIR to python search path and stuff
[14:51] <Riddell> khindenburg: it won't, due to limitations in Python
[14:52] <khindenburg> This must be new, I've never had this issue before a few weeks ago.  I don't want trunk messing with /usr
[14:53] <Riddell> I think it has always been the casea
[14:53] <khindenburg> Does it depend on python version you have installed?
[14:56] <Riddell> could do
[15:04] <Riddell> ah, just the man
[15:04] <Riddell> 14:51 < khindenburg> Do you know how to get KDE trunk to not install pyKDE4 in /usr but instead under $KDEDIR?
[15:04] <Riddell> _Sime: ^^
[15:04] <Riddell> _Sime: also..
[15:04] <Riddell> 13:30 < sikor_sxe> hello, my kubuntu kde packages got updated and now my kde python app is broken, because 'QConfigGroup::readEntry (const char *key)'  seems to return a qvariant instead of a qstring now :/
[15:05] <_Sime> Riddell: someone added the option to the cmake stuff to do that, but I don't use it. But it does exist.
[15:06] <_Sime> Riddell: some digging around in SVN should get you the answer.
[15:07] <_Sime> Riddell: the second thing. That is a SIP / PyQt thing, and is best taken up with Riverbank.
[15:08] <Riddell> _Sime: sikor_sxe was also asking if 4.3 pykde docs would be online
[15:08] <_Sime> Riddell: yeah, on the TODO list. ;-)
[15:09] <Riddell> 15:08 < sikor_sxe> btw, will kde switch to pyside?
[15:09] <Riddell> provocative this guy :)
[15:10] <apachelogger> pyside! \o/ ;P
[15:10] <apachelogger> something makes me think that apturl is quite the big bug
[15:10] <apachelogger> doesn't parse half the stuff I tell it
[15:13] <_Sime> Riddell: it is (very) early days for pyside...
[15:14] <_Sime> Riddell: I don't know how things are going to play out here.
[15:15] <_Sime> Riddell: to be honest I'm not all that happy with the situation.
[15:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: will an app-install-like GUI be added to kpk?
[15:27] <Riddell> apachelogger: well we'd like it, rgreening says it probably needs to be a separate app, I suggested to ervin it would be a good project for his students
[15:27] <Riddell> and that's about where it stands
[15:32] <apachelogger> bk
[15:32] <apachelogger> ok
[15:33] <Mamarok> Riddell: I give him another week, that's all, but I will most likely remove him anyway, knowing him he will not be able to respect the rules
[15:36] <Riddell> Mamarok: good luck :)
[15:37] <Stecchino> Riddell: isn't the libmysqld.a on karmic 64-bit supposed to be compatible with amarok?
[15:39] <Riddell> Stecchino: mysql changed to 5.1 recently in karmic and I've not looked at it (JontheEchidna has)
[15:39] <Riddell> Stecchino: the new packaging uses /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqld_pic.a from libmysqld_pic
[15:40] <Riddell> which needs a patch to cmake/modules/FindMySQLAmarok.cmake
[15:41] <Stecchino> Riddell: thanks, i'll try that
[15:41] <Stecchino> perhaps commit that patch as well
[15:41] <Stecchino> AFAIKT libmysqld_pic is not a build-dep of amarok yet
[15:41] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot015.png how to pimp that?
[15:43] <shtylman> apachelogger: is that from firefox?
[15:43] <Riddell> Stecchino: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/debian/mysqle_look_for_libmysqld_pic.diff
[15:43] <Riddell> Stecchino: it's not been uploaded yet
[15:43] <apachelogger> shtylman: apturl
[15:43] <shtylman> apachelogger: right.. but from any browser?
[15:44] <apachelogger> no, why would that matter?
[15:44] <Stecchino> Riddell: right, perhaps it is. Just wasn't there yet
[15:44]  * apachelogger notes that apturl still aint got no ppa support it seems :|
[15:45] <Stecchino> Riddell: no, it wasn't yet
[15:51] <smarter> apachelogger: adds the deb icon(which is already used for the titlebar icon) to the left of the text?
[16:25] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/apturl1.ogv
[16:30] <apachelogger> smarter: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot016.png
[16:31] <smarter> looks great
[16:31] <davmor2> apachelogger: :)
[16:32] <smarter> not sure if apturl API let you do that, but it'd be nice if the window indicated from which webpage the link ca!$
[16:32] <smarter> *came
[16:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: sweet
[16:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: by the way kpackagekit can install a named package now so install-package could disappear, but the UI isn't as nice
[16:38]  * Riddell wonders if anyone is going to remove arora from the seeds
[16:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: kpk also needs to implement some --update and --uninstall thingy before install-package can go away
[16:40] <ScottK> Riddell: I'm looking at updating the networkmanagement thing.  I copied over the po dir like you said, but then rm -rf po/*.pot during clean wipes is out when I make the source package.  Suggestions?
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: surely that only removes .pot files?
[16:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Well that's all that was in the po dir when I grabbed the source package.
[16:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: should I leave arora on the netbook seed?
[16:42]  * apachelogger still thinks we should switch to firefox on the netbook
[16:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: We've decided to remove it from Desktop?
[16:43] <ScottK> If it's being removed from Kubuntu desktop, then it ought to be removed from netbook too.
[16:43] <apachelogger> voting at last meeting suggested to stay with konqueror ... which equals removal of arora, especially if/when I get kubuntu-firefox-installer in
[16:43] <Riddell> ScottK: the .pots get generated automatically, if they're in the .orig that's a mistake
[16:43] <apachelogger> firefox > arora anyway :P
[16:44] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  Then I don't know what to put in the po dir for my snapshot.  I'll just leave it empty unless you have a great idea.
[16:44] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah leave it empty for now
[16:46] <Riddell> I'll look at getting the .pos added next week
[16:47] <ScottK> OK
[16:58] <apachelogger> for kds you can run bzr builddeb -S now
[16:58] <apachelogger> added config so the --native option can be omitted
[16:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: where do you add that?
[16:59] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: uploading kds reverting back to konqueror as browser
[16:59] <apachelogger> .bzr-builddeb/default.conf
[16:59] <apachelogger> see /usr/share/doc/bzr-builddeb/README.html for format and options
[17:00] <apachelogger> for our KDE branches you would have the option merge = True (since they are not full-source branches, but packaging only)
[17:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think KNDS may need some adjusting too.
[17:03] <apachelogger> ScottK: to get rid of arora?
[17:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: Yes.
[17:03] <ScottK> I think there was something in there.
[17:03] <apachelogger> nope, those settings got cascaded from kds
[17:03] <ScottK> OK
[17:03] <Stecchino> is it something local on my machine or does the networkmanager systray applet not allow connection to a know wifi network?
[17:04] <Riddell> works for me
[17:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: oh, indeed, we have different kickoffrc, so that didn't cascade :)
[17:08] <Riddell> it should do
[17:10] <Stecchino> Riddell: I can click on the label of the connection but nothing happends
[17:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: also add the builddeb default setting to knds
[17:12]  * ScottK doesn't use it, so whatever.
[17:12] <apachelogger> ScottK: you do manual bzr exports? Oo
[17:12] <ScottK> Even worse.
[17:12] <Stecchino> nm-applet (gnome) works fine
[17:12] <ScottK> I use diff and patch.
[17:12] <apachelogger> oh jeez
[17:16] <lex79> konqueror is the default browser again?
[17:17] <apachelogger> yes
[17:18] <lex79> I would like see firefox instead of konqueror :(
[17:22] <apachelogger> lex79: get it integrated into KDE first
[17:22] <nixternal> i would hate to see firefox, I would rather see epiphany :)
[17:23] <nixternal> firefox 3.5 is garbage...I have never witnessed a browser crash so much
[17:23] <ScottK> Odd.  Never crashes here.
[17:23] <nixternal> dude, it crashes constantly for me
[17:23] <ScottK> 64bit?
[17:23] <nixternal> yup
[17:23] <ScottK> Right, not here.
[17:24]  * ScottK would rather have things working than be .02% faster.
[17:24] <nixternal> lol, and that .02% faster is only the first time it starts up :)
[17:25] <ScottK> Almost all the hardware I have is 64bit capable, but I've never run it.
[17:27] <Riddell> Stecchino: wait for the new version ScottK is packaging, then we can worry
[17:27] <ScottK> It's building in my PPA now.
[17:28] <ScottK> Riddell: It's probably not too soon to put in the FFe for pw-nm.
[17:57] <ScottK> OK, didn't crash in the first 5 minutes, so uploading.
[18:00] <ScottK> Riddell: pw-nm uploaded.
[18:00] <ScottK> Stecchino: Just uploaded, so it should be available later today after it's built and published.
[19:18] <lex79> apachelogger: can you upload kdebase-workspace from bzr to fix this bug 416755 ?
[19:19] <lex79> it has 4 duplicates
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> new kdevelop beta... /me packages
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> unless somebody already started?
[19:46] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: she's all yours
[19:48] <davmor2> Riddell: hello
[19:49] <Riddell> davmor2!
[19:49] <davmor2> guys on the ublog app should it show your friends comments?
[19:49] <ghostcube> O-O
[19:49] <davmor2> also what happens to everyone else if you try to uncheck the box that says show friends
[19:49] <ghostcube> karmic needs to get finished :)
[19:53] <Riddell> davmor2: it should, although it doesn't for me
[19:53] <davmor2> Riddell: what happens if you go into the setting and disable show friends?
[19:54] <Riddell> davmor2: boom!
[19:55] <davmor2> Riddell: let me guess your screen turns black for a second then comes back and you get an error box saying no such directory or something similar?
[19:56] <Riddell> davmor2: plasma crashes
[19:56] <Riddell> no error box, although that might be an apport issue
[19:56] <davmor2> Riddell: it has the apport symbol on the box
[19:58] <Riddell> yeah so separate issue
[20:00] <davmor2> Riddell: it appears after every time I uncheck show friends so it could be the plasma crash triggering it maybe
[20:53] <davmor2> Riddell: what does the ublog app come under again please?
[20:54] <Riddell> davmor2: kdeplasma-addons
[20:55] <davmor2> Riddell: ta gonna bug both of those
[21:03] <davmor2> Riddell: someone bet me to it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/417477
[21:04] <davmor2> bug 405463 even
[21:22] <maco> davmor2: heck for that matter, it should show *something*
[21:22] <maco> well, consistently at least
[21:23] <maco> one of mine shows my own timeline. the other shows squat diddly
[21:23] <davmor2> maco: I get my own tweets and that's it
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> could any core-dev sponsor lex's fix for bug 416755?
[21:29] <maco> davmor2: on one of mine i dont even get that
[21:29] <davmor2> maco: add it to the bug :)
[21:31] <maco> done
[21:38] <sgh> Hi!
[21:39] <sgh> Can anyone here confirm that kopete does not restart over sessions in latest karmic?
[21:42] <ghostcube> :( the kernel error still exists and i cant get the one whos responsible :)
[21:54] <lex79> JontheEchidna: you and me should become core-dev to bring in high Kubuntu :P
[21:54] <Riddell> couldn't agree more
[23:37] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: kdevelop tars have been redone
[23:37] <Riddell> 70064ad0e285d29242a90af3f3c2283f  kdevelop-3.9.95.tar.bz2
[23:37] <Riddell> 2ee0d124682bb3cbc3f1068389749e0c  kdevplatform-0.9.95.tar.bz2
[23:58] <Sir-Gon> !
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> wha
[23:58] <Sir-Gon> kdevelop has been ported to kde4? :o