| JontheEchidna | kde ftp hasn't updated to the latest tar yet :( | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | Sir-Gon: yep :) | 00:14 |
| Sir-Gon | :D | 00:14 |
| JontheEchidna | still in beta (beta5 now) | 00:14 |
| JontheEchidna | try kdevelop-kde4 in jaunty or kdevelop in karmic | 00:15 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: don't you have ktown access? | 00:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: nope | 00:16 |
| Riddell | ah well, we should fix that | 00:16 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: try ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org | 00:18 |
| JontheEchidna | 550 EXCESSIVE LOAD failure | 00:19 |
| Riddell | ssh? | 00:20 |
| JontheEchidna | ftp:// in dolphin | 00:20 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org | 00:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Permission denied (publickey). | 00:21 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what's your ssh public key then? | 00:21 |
| JontheEchidna | let me check | 00:21 |
| JontheEchidna | 97870010 | 00:22 |
| Riddell | that's not a public key | 00:22 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that's the fingerprint | 00:22 |
| Riddell | cat .ssh/id_dsa.pub | 00:23 |
| Riddell | or id_rsa.p | 00:24 |
| Riddell | or id_rsa.pub | 00:24 |
| JontheEchidna | http://paste.ubuntu.com/257796/ | 00:25 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: try now | 00:26 |
| JontheEchidna | yay | 00:26 |
| JontheEchidna | guess I gotta break out the scp? | 00:27 |
| Riddell | of the sftp:// in dolphin | 00:27 |
| Riddell | or the sftp:// in dolphin | 00:27 |
| JontheEchidna | more convenient with dolphin | 00:27 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, so the latest tarball doesn't build :( | 01:09 |
| * JontheEchidna should have done more testing before uploading | 01:10 | |
| lex79 | I think you should reupload new tarball of kdevplatform.... | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | according to svn the code hasn't changed, so I didnt' bother | 01:14 |
| lex79 | weird :( | 01:16 |
| Riddell | should be just the kdevelop tar which changed if I read his e-mail right | 01:17 |
| nixternal | exit | 02:02 |
| nixternal | err, that won't work :) | 02:02 |
| nixternal | detrach screen first, then enjoy the evening :) | 02:02 |
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| === spstarr is now known as spstarr_coding | ||
| spstarr_coding | nixternal: screen -r ;) you're not allowed to abandon IRC - ever - | 03:11 |
| spstarr_coding | ;) | 03:11 |
| spstarr_coding | is there no reason Ubuntu/Kubuntu don't just return to Ubuntu with a ballot box in installer to choose KDE or GNOME? (much like the opensuse folks have)? | 04:15 |
| spstarr_coding | less additional overhead | 04:19 |
| spstarr_coding | because one can install KDE from ubuntu anyway | 04:19 |
| === spstarr_coding is now known as spstarr | ||
| ScottK | Was it ever that way? | 04:37 |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| maco | spstarr: cd space? | 04:57 |
| maco | spstarr: the net install disk lets you choose ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-studio, etc. from tasksel in the installer | 04:58 |
| maco | ScottK: whats up with policykit-kde? why's kdebase-workspace-bin conflict with it? | 05:07 |
| spstarr | so then why do we need to distinguish KDE ubuntu from GNOME ubuntu? | 05:08 |
| spstarr | separate websites etc | 05:08 |
| maco | for the purposes of the normal install cd | 05:08 |
| maco | oh and because there was only ubuntu at one point | 05:08 |
| spstarr | yes | 05:08 |
| maco | the plan originally didnt include KDE at all | 05:09 |
| maco | nor xfce | 05:09 |
| spstarr | isn't there enough GNOME specific distributions as there is? i dont really get the point of that | 05:09 |
| spstarr | Ubuntu could be different | 05:09 |
| spstarr | it could treat KDE and GNOME as equals | 05:09 |
| spstarr | it irritates me much that distributions have squeezed KDE so much out | 05:11 |
| spstarr | GNOME = C, stripped down, KDE = C++, advanced | 05:11 |
| spstarr | just have a ballot install, Advanced users button Beginners button | 05:11 |
| maco | when they invent CDs (not DVDs) capable of holding 1.2GB, lemme know | 05:12 |
| maco | with just gnome, the ubuntu cd has like 798MB of possible 800MB of cd space in use | 05:12 |
| maco | unless you can fit all of kde into 2MB... | 05:12 |
| spstarr | geez | 05:13 |
| spstarr | stripped? | 05:13 |
| spstarr | no debug? | 05:13 |
| ScottK | Having an install that fits on one CD is an important design precept for Ubuntu. No way to fit KDE and Gnome into that. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | maco: Dunno. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | My guess is it got absorbed. | 05:15 |
| maco | huh? | 05:15 |
| maco | oh | 05:15 |
| maco | the policykit question | 05:15 |
| ScottK | Yeah | 05:15 |
| spstarr | unless you abandon the LiveCD concept --> LiveDVD :) | 05:15 |
| ScottK | spstarr: It's been discussed and decided not to do it. | 05:15 |
| spstarr | ugh | 05:16 |
| maco | it would assume that all computers have DVD drives | 05:16 |
| spstarr | we will get to that point though in modern systems though | 05:16 |
| spstarr | your old i586 might not have a DVD | 05:16 |
| maco | in a few years, when all the systems that lack DVD drives are gone... | 05:16 |
| maco | but ubuntu is supposed to be usable in developing nations | 05:16 |
| spstarr | this is true | 05:17 |
| maco | it is common here in the US for it to be put on pentium 3 systems for charity | 05:17 |
| maco | pentium 3 systems did not come with DVD drives | 05:17 |
| spstarr | mine sure didn't :) | 05:17 |
| ScottK | Download size and bandwidth is also a significant factor. | 05:47 |
| spstarr | in developing countries, yes | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Not only there. | 05:48 |
| * spstarr installs 'ubuntu-desktop' to get GNOME in Kubuntu, since I need to keep track of what GNOME is doing ;p | 05:49 | |
| spstarr | im not yet ready to switch from Fedora to Buntu, until the graphics framework for my video card is upstream ;/ | 05:49 |
| spstarr | so i have it in a VirtualBox | 05:49 |
| spstarr | try before i 'buy' ;) | 05:50 |
| spstarr | Buntu has changed since i used it in 2006 | 05:50 |
| ScottK | Better or worse? | 05:51 |
| spstarr | better :) | 05:56 |
| spstarr | I still long for a 'sid' for Buntu though | 05:56 |
| spstarr | Fedora spoils me on rawhide - however - !! | 05:57 |
| spstarr | Rawhide has eaten 2 machines of mine recently so... | 05:57 |
| spstarr | you get what yo ask for :D | 05:57 |
| spstarr | you | 05:57 |
| spstarr | i miss my apt/aptitude very much :( | 06:03 |
| * spstarr sheads a tear | 06:03 | |
| ScottK | I want the latest of everything, completely rock solid, totally polished and beautiful, and I want it now. | 06:04 |
| * ScottK has asked. | 06:04 | |
| spstarr | if only the radeon developers were Buntu users/developers | 06:04 |
| spstarr | but as soon as things go upstream and API is ready I will switch over | 06:04 |
| spstarr | i could build mesa/libdrm/kernel manually but this just gets messy when they dont have a frozen API | 06:05 |
| spstarr | i rather focus on KDE development | 06:05 |
| nixternal | ScottK: arch is for you then :p | 06:13 |
| dtchen | i was going to recommend Mac OS ;) | 06:14 |
| spstarr | ScottK: I don't recall Launchpad in 2006 :) | 06:18 |
| spstarr | it might have been created but i dont remember | 06:18 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: uploading taglib-extras 0.1.6 to ubuntu | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | lex79: uploaded workspace | 11:48 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: wow, great ! | 11:51 |
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| === ejat is now known as e-jat | ||
| Quintasan | wow, new kernel | 13:18 |
| ghostcube | ?? | 13:21 |
| ghostcube | songbird 1.40a rox it notices jackd by default | 13:21 |
| ghostcube | woot | 13:21 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan, mainline or stock ? | 13:22 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: stock, I can't use mainline since fglrx doesnt work, and ext4 is bugged in jaunty, launchpad bug stated that -15 fixes the problem, but it's about to be tested :P | 13:23 |
| Quintasan | s/jaunty/jauntys\ kernel/ | 13:23 |
| ghostcube | for me mainline bigger than rc5 isnt well at the moment :| my mobo thermal chipset doesnt work | 13:23 |
| ghostcube | so iam stay on 2.6.30-5 mainline with my never ending nameserver problem | 13:24 |
| ghostcube | and it seems no one knows wth ubuntu pathces to get the nameserver to run on the release kernels | 13:24 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:24 |
| ghostcube | i always need to restart my inrterfaces after kde starts | 13:25 |
| ghostcube | :| | 13:25 |
| ghostcube | eth1 is up and running nameserver from resolvconf not | 13:25 |
| ghostcube | oo | 13:25 |
| ghostcube | btw Quintasan http://www.picpaste.com/Bildschirmfoto6.jpeg | 13:25 |
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| Quintasan | GRRR | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | -15 isnt fixing ext4 | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: what's this? | 15:34 |
| ghostcube | the screenie ? | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | yup | 15:35 |
| ghostcube | songbird on my pc connected to jackd | 15:35 |
| ghostcube | works fine | 15:35 |
| ghostcube | :) | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | jackd? omg don't remeber when I last experimented with it | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | still that dammned kernel is getting on my nerves | 15:36 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 15:36 |
| ghostcube | jackd is th best for getting sound out of the linux box | 15:36 |
| ghostcube | :D | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | mainline works fine with ext4 but no fglrx. and stock works with fglrx but contains bugged ext4 both bugs make system almost unusable :/ | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | well, let's try jack | 15:39 |
| ghostcube | i use the one from an ppa :) | 15:39 |
| ghostcube | not the stock one | 15:39 |
| ghostcube | -_- my system is something like pimped to death | 15:40 |
| ghostcube | :D | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | GRRRRR | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | -15 is working worse than -14 | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | random freezes now | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | on -14 freezes occured when moving or deleting data | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | now I don't even know what cause it to freeze | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | WHY!?!? | 15:46 |
| ghostcube | -_- | 15:49 |
| ghostcube | try the 2.6.30-5 isnt this working with fglrx | 15:49 |
| Quintasan | nope | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | I have karmic machine next to mine and fglrx kernel module fails to compile | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | and it's required to use fglrx :/ | 15:50 |
| ghostcube | is there no fglrx ppa ? | 15:54 |
| ghostcube | or something | 15:54 |
| Quintasan | dunno, propably not | 15:54 |
| Quintasan | I hope they will get 3d in radeonhd soon | 15:55 |
| ghostcube | i have an ppa for an jaunty version | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: fglrx? | 16:05 |
| ghostcube | yes | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | can you give me the link? | 16:07 |
| ghostcube | oh and karnmic in the daily release one moment pls | 16:08 |
| ghostcube | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 16:08 |
| Quintasan | let me purge x-edgers first | 16:10 |
| ghostcube | thats the daily release from x edgers | 16:11 |
| Quintasan | so I'm already running newest version? | 16:12 |
| ghostcube | no | 16:12 |
| ghostcube | x edgers is normal | 16:12 |
| ghostcube | the one i gave you daily | 16:12 |
| ghostcube | git | 16:12 |
| ghostcube | read x edgers ppa :) | 16:13 |
| ghostcube | mentiones in the first paragraph | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | Can I use it over x-edgers or it's better to purge the packages? | 16:13 |
| ghostcube | uffz | 16:13 |
| ghostcube | i have no ide | 16:13 |
| ghostcube | *a | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | Screw it, it's not like I can't unplug my HDD and copy the files over if it screws something :P | 16:14 |
| skreech | JontheEchidna: ping | 16:35 |
| JontheEchidna | skreech: pong | 16:36 |
| skreech | JontheEchidna: has there been any breakage of kunitnamespace for you on KDE trunk? | 16:36 |
| skreech | Bah | 16:36 |
| skreech | kunitconversion maespce | 16:37 |
| skreech | namespace | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't run trunk | 16:37 |
| skreech | Hmm ok trying to figure out the error kunitconversion is not a valid namespace | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I think I saw somethign about that though | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | there's some mess with the conversion lib in kdereview | 16:38 |
| Quintasan | what would be better: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Device+Manager?content=106051 or devicenotifier with automount? | 16:38 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan, tried the ppa ? | 16:38 |
| ghostcube | is this working | 16:38 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: looks like I'm already at newest version | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | did not show up as upgradeable package | 16:39 |
| ghostcube | hmmm ok | 16:39 |
| skreech | JontheEchidna: So Not resolved yet? Do you remember the thread? | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | skreech: nah, just saw a few lines about it in #plasma | 16:43 |
| skreech | Does that afect the weather wallpaper? | 16:45 |
| skreech | +f | 16:46 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: any status on kdevelop? | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | phew, I almost lost my gpg key :S | 17:02 |
| nixternal | i used to do that quite a bit back in the day | 17:02 |
| nixternal | now I have my gpg key on 5 machines :) | 17:03 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: no clue why it fails to build | 17:03 |
| nixternal | wonder if it isn't kdevelop's fault, but maybe kdevplatform, as it can't find the config cmake module | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | hmm how do you make changes to k-d-s? we vote or what? | 17:04 |
| ScottK | nixternal: How's the wifi switch? It'd be spiffy to get it in before feature freeze. | 17:04 |
| * apachelogger has all his keys on a stick and a CD in a lock box at the bank | 17:04 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: you still haven't tried it yet? | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: good idea, I will burn them on CD | 17:05 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Is it packaged or just source? | 17:05 |
| nixternal | ScottK: I need you to try it since you have bluetooth...just source | 17:05 |
| skreech | Quintasan: Put them on a floppy! :) | 17:05 |
| nixternal | all you have to do is 'python kairmode.py' | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: depends on the change really, usually a question gets poped here, to see if there is consensus, if there is not, it either gets discussed right away or at a meeting | 17:05 |
| ScottK | nixternal: OK. Make me a .deb in a PPA please. I've very limited time ... | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | depending on the intrusiveness obviously | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | skreech: no floppy :( | 17:05 |
| nixternal | ScottK: roger that...probably later today as I am super busy today | 17:05 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu Council has final say if there is a decision needed. | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Device+Manager?content=106051 instead of Device Notifier | 17:05 |
| ScottK | nixternal: OK. | 17:06 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Just give me a ping. | 17:06 |
| Quintasan | hell, if my box wont hang on pbuilder then ext4 is really fixed in jaunty | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I am against that for technical reasons | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | the changes should go into KDE itself rather than forking the applet | 17:08 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: +1 | 17:08 |
| ScottK | I'd like it if it would autohide when nothing was plugged in. | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | IMHO there is need for a common implementation of that case | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | there is also the keyboard state plasmoid | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | which could also use such an autohide feature | 17:09 |
| Qwait13 | help | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | since that one is especially useful for netbooks and would only waste the limited space if no keys are actually active | 17:09 |
| Quintasan | I guess I will submit a package to REVU if someone wants it and poke author to talk with KDE | 17:09 |
| Qwait13 | help | 17:09 |
| Qwait13 | help | 17:10 |
| Qwait13 | help | 17:10 |
| Qwait13 | help | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | .... | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | meh | 17:10 |
| Qwait13 | i need help | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | obviously | 17:10 |
| skreech | Qwait13: Did you try #kubuntu ? | 17:10 |
| Quintasan | Qwait13: #kubuntu for asstiance, this is development channel | 17:10 |
| Qwait13 | хорошо, я покину вас. | 17:11 |
| ghostcube | #kubuntu-ru | 17:11 |
| ghostcube | --- | 17:11 |
| skreech | !ru | 17:13 |
| ubottu | Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 17:13 |
| ghostcube | oh this works here too :| | 17:13 |
| Quintasan | god damn that ext4 | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | grrr | 17:15 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan, there is an karmic release inside tis ppa i showed you isnt this working on karmic for youre kernel ? | 17:16 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: let me explain, karmics kernel DONT work with fglrx, the kernel module fail to build with kernel from karmic | 17:17 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: same with mainline kernels | 17:17 |
| ghostcube | ok and you need 2.6.31x ? | 17:17 |
| Quintasan | ghostcube: the only kernel which works with fglrx from repos is jaunty's one which contains bugged ext4 | 17:17 |
| ghostcube | eeven 2.6.30-5 from mainline isnt working ? | 17:17 |
| Quintasan | yes | 17:18 |
| ghostcube | this is stable | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | from karmic | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | and module fails to build | 17:18 |
| ghostcube | naah if you install the mainline build 2.6.30-5 the module doesnt load ? | 17:18 |
| ghostcube | not the karmic one | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | fglrx uses dkms to build kernel module, with mainline it fails to buiild | 17:19 |
| ghostcube | hmmm my nvidia dkms works fine -_- | 17:19 |
| Quintasan | this is a problem with fglrx not kernel | 17:20 |
| ghostcube | hmmm | 17:20 |
| ghostcube | had i mention i hate ati -_- | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | at least I think so | 17:20 |
| ghostcube | my dkms for nvidia worked not before i get a newer packaged one from the repos | 17:21 |
| ghostcube | my this is here the same | 17:21 |
| ghostcube | may | 17:21 |
| duchai_ | hello, the fix for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/416755 is released but that problem still exists. | 17:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416755 in kdebase-workspace "package kdebase-workspace-bin (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/apps/kcmsolidactions/solid-action-template.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-data" [Critical,Fix released] | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | you know, I was just wondering... wouldn't it be possible to reimplment katapult using krunner? | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | should be a straight forward project, since it doesn't have to worry about the data gathering anymore, shouldn't it? | 17:57 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: apachelogger loves you all | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/karmic-alpha-4 | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | We need paperKuts! https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts | ||
| * apachelogger is wondering why our stop-reload-button-patch from KDE 3 never got applied upstream | 18:12 | |
| smarter | apachelogger: isn't krunner basically katapult 2.0? | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | it looks like crap though :P | 18:14 |
| smarter | or in other words, what are you missing from katapult? | 18:15 |
| smarter | so you're suggesting improving the theme? | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | no | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | making it katapultish | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | eventually as individual app, bound to alt+spacebar | 18:16 |
| smarter | I'm afraid I don't get it :p | 18:16 |
| smarter | krunner is an individual app, and the shortcut can easily be changed to alt+space, though I don't see what's wrong with alt+f2 | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | altf2 is more difficult to grasp | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | and I don't want to replace krunner | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | all I want is a krunner that looks nice | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | which of course comes at the cost of flexibility | 18:17 |
| smarter | doesn't that translate to improving/changing the theme? | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | but no | 18:18 |
| smarter | you want somr sort of krunner-for-dummy? | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | again, krunner stays krunner, with it's awfully looking lineedit and all the buttons | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | while katapult ought to do what it always did, look fancy | 18:19 |
| smarter | krunner UI is already changeable | 18:19 |
| smarter | there's the quicksand thing | 18:19 |
| smarter | now called the "task oriented" mode | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | again ... katapult should not replace krunner :P | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | can repeat that all day long | 18:20 |
| smarter | we're not going anywhere :P | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | geekthing => altf2 vs. advanceduserthing => altspace | 18:20 |
| skreech | apachelogger: You can improve quicksand then | 18:24 |
| smarter | exactly what I was suggesting | 18:24 |
| smarter | apachelogger: if that is two different user profiles, why do we need two apps? Make an advanced-user UI for Krunner, and the geek will figure out how to get back to the plain-old krunner | 18:24 |
| skreech | which as faras I can see has stalled | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | when I looked at quicksand it was the crap | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | awful code | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | seriously awful | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | no clue if it improved by entering KDE though | 18:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Which is obvious motivation to make lzma work. | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I'll be getting bed ready soonish, so no new work until wed | 18:26 |
| smarter | I don't even get how quicksand is supposed to work :p | 18:26 |
| skreech | It's task oriented :) | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | so | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | I entered switch user | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | which clearly is a task | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | and quicksand does not show anything | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | failed to match use case | 18:27 |
| skreech | apachelogger: But in any case Go ahead take a look to see if it makes more sense to port katapult from KDE3 to KDE4 or to implement a KDE4 interface for krunner | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | skreech: the latter for sure | 18:28 |
| skreech | Though with katapult plugins you can do things like use Gnome-do plugins as well so that would be an argument for starting with katapult | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | after all the krunner core does exactly what made up most of katapult | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | skreech: gnome-do plugins? | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | isn't that what plasma-runners are anyway? | 18:29 |
| skreech | Or whatever else you like | 18:29 |
| skreech | apachelogger: Yes but gnome-do already has plugins might as well use them | 18:29 |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| skreech | See plasma using MacOSX widgets | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | plugins for what? | 18:29 |
| skreech | Flickr delicious etc | 18:30 |
| skreech | gnome-do has a crazy number of optional plugins | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | oh | 18:32 |
| skreech | Though krunner has kopete integration in Koala ^_^ | 18:33 |
| skreech | gnome-do would bring pidgin and empathy plugins as well through katapult so there would be more user choice | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | knowing free software the plugins implement UI stuff | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | knowing free software gnome-do probably uses python or mono | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | knowin free software I either refactor the shit out of gnome-do, or make katapult depend on mono or python and gtk and gnome | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | and then, I wonder what the point would be anyway :P | 18:35 |
| skreech | it's a plugin | 18:35 |
| skreech | if you don't want it don't use it | 18:35 |
| skreech | No need to depend on anything | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | but implement it | 18:35 |
| skreech | #katapult if you want to inquire :) | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | and why would anyone implement anything if no one is going to use it | 18:36 |
| skreech | though Mez is the person you should ask anyway | 18:36 |
| skreech | as I said pidgin plugins alone would ensure they get used | 18:37 |
| skreech | Lots of people on KDE don't like kopete and use pidgin instead | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | my guts say it will be 100% more efficient to just reimplement that as plasma-runner | 18:38 |
| skreech | All the gnome-do plugins ? | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | the 3 that make sense | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | knowing free software 90% of the available plugins are pointless stuff that counts at the very best as poc | 18:40 |
| skreech | well if you can do that and document how it's done then the rest should come over as needed | 18:42 |
| skreech | yay foss | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | as I see it, the better part of runner development is the interaction with $app/$web-api | 18:43 |
| skreech | How so? | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | cause everything else is handled by plasma anyway | 18:46 |
| skreech | well in theory it's handled by the gui | 18:46 |
| skreech | I can use krunner or quicksand and not use plasma | 18:46 |
| skreech | well plasma-desktop | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | no it is not | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | krunner builds upon libplasma | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | the abstractrunner class is also part of the plasma namespace, so there is no way you can implement a plasma-runner without using plasma | 18:51 |
| skreech | touche | 18:53 |
| skreech | Are we packaging the Blackboad desktop for Koala? | 19:00 |
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| skreech | Nightrose: ping | 19:12 |
| Tonio__ | hum rekonq is doind pretty well those days... | 19:25 |
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| skreech | \o/ | 19:26 |
| skreech | Hopefully we wil have a web browser shotout like we had a Text editor shootout | 19:26 |
| Tonio_ | I'm just testing the addblock feature patch for arora :) | 19:27 |
| Tonio_ | works pretty well though | 19:27 |
| lex79 | apachelogger: can you upload again kdebase-workspace from bzr ? | 19:47 |
| lex79 | or any core-dev... | 19:48 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: yep ? | 19:54 |
| lex79 | Hi Tonio_, kdebase-workspace in bzr...can you upload? :) | 19:54 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: yep | 19:55 |
| lex79 | thanks | 19:55 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: maybe you can look a bit this k3b bug 416890 | 19:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416890 in k3b "[karmic] Latest libk3b6-extracodecs package depends on stripped ffmpeg packages, but not the unstripped ones." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416890 | 19:57 |
| lex79 | I think you should rebuild k3b against ffmpeg unstripped version, but not sure | 19:58 |
| micmord | lex79: http://paste.ubuntu.com/258232/ | 20:00 |
| lex79 | micmord: thanks, Tonio_ ^^^ | 20:00 |
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| micmord | bug 416890 | 20:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416890 in k3b "[karmic] Latest libk3b6-extracodecs package depends on stripped ffmpeg packages, but not the unstripped ones." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416890 | 20:01 |
| Tonio_ | micmord: fixing this | 20:07 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: uploaded | 20:14 |
| lex79 | ok thank you | 20:15 |
| ScottK | Would someone please ping me. | 20:20 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: ping ? | 20:20 |
| lex79 | ScottK: | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 20:20 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: How did the Dooble packaging go? | 20:20 |
| rgreening | ha. not so good. Got sidetracked. | 20:21 |
| Tonio_ | micmord: hum I don't really get the point of that k3b issue ? | 20:22 |
| lex79 | someone knows if akonadi-googledata will be in karmic? | 20:22 |
| ScottK | Didn't it get uploaded? | 20:23 |
| lex79 | ScottK: it isn't in archive | 20:24 |
| Tonio_ | micmord: this has probably more to do with ffmpeg packaging than k3b... | 20:25 |
| Tonio_ | micmord: deps on libk3b6 are acalculating automatically, so there's nothing I can do to fix them | 20:25 |
| Tonio_ | ffmpeg lib should have a conditional dep dep between each other, with a meta package or so | 20:26 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: rebuild k3b against ffmpeg unstripped version is not a good idea ? | 20:26 |
| lex79 | instead ffmpeg stripped I meant | 20:26 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: then the opposite problem would appear for someone installing the stripped ones, broken upgrade | 20:27 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: that's the problem imho :) | 20:27 |
| lex79 | yes I think :) btw kubuntu-restricted-extras depends on ffmpeg unstripped, and k3b depends on stripped version | 20:29 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: hum that's not good indeed :) | 20:29 |
| lex79 | no no :) | 20:29 |
| Tonio_ | so in this case we can fix that way... let's go | 20:29 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: Bummer | 20:30 |
| lex79 | jtechidna: There is a new tarball for kdevplatform, uploaded it in ktown two hours ago | 20:59 |
| ScottK | Would someone please highlight me again. | 21:06 |
| jtechidna | ScottK: ping | 21:07 |
| jtechidna | lex79: thanks | 21:07 |
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| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Thanks. | 21:08 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: you can subscribe kde-packager mailing list https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-packager | 21:08 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: what are you playing with, re the hilights? | 21:13 |
| ghostcube | hmm is there a bug about the notification << i >> not working on kde 4.30 | 21:23 |
| ghostcube | i cant find any | 21:23 |
| Nightrose | skreech: pong | 21:36 |
| skreech | Nightrose: What's the story with the openoffice.org dent? | 21:49 |
| Nightrose | skreech: ah heh - I was sitting in the vip room at froscon to eat something and asked a girl from open office what she's doing for openoffice - she replied she's basically doing nothing - I was waring my kde shirt and amarok nametag | 21:51 |
| Nightrose | then her parents showed up and talked about licensing and some other meh stuff | 21:51 |
| Nightrose | then somehow they got to talk about koffice... | 21:52 |
| Nightrose | and it went downhill from there | 21:52 |
| Nightrose | i don't think they koticed i was sitting right next to them | 21:52 |
| Nightrose | *noticed | 21:52 |
| skreech | knoticed? :) | 21:52 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 21:52 |
| skreech | So out of intrigue. What was the thoughts on koffice? | 21:53 |
| Nightrose | yea - anyway - they were quite a weird family... | 21:53 |
| Nightrose | basically "it sucks and _I_ wouldn't have allowed to release it in that state" | 21:53 |
| skreech | Well how many families have an introduction like "Her parents showed up and talked about licensing" ? | 21:53 |
| Nightrose | basically "go back and play - leave the real stuff to the grown ups at ooo" | 21:54 |
| Nightrose | haha good point | 21:54 |
| skreech | Yeah not too surprised. most of the people who really work on OO.o are paid devs from Staroffice so they really see it as a product | 21:54 |
| Nightrose | i don't think they are paid devs - just drank way too much coolaid | 21:55 |
| Nightrose | honestly don't think they are devs at all | 21:55 |
| skreech | Well that makes me feel better about the whole I do nothing on OO.o then | 21:56 |
| skreech | They don't really influence either project | 21:56 |
| Nightrose | might be - i dunno - maybe they acutally are high profile OOo people - either way that made a _very_ bad impression | 21:57 |
| Nightrose | besides them being really strange people | 21:57 |
| Nightrose | but i guess you have to be strange to work on that project... | 21:57 |
| skreech | ah well when Koffice blows past them in features in 2 years time it won't relly matter | 21:59 |
| Nightrose | ;-) let's see | 22:01 |
| * Nightrose has high hopes | 22:01 | |
| skreech | :-) | 22:01 |
| skreech | Ok I'm off | 22:01 |
| Nightrose | cya | 22:02 |
| ulaas | i did not know where to report. | 22:04 |
| ulaas | but i have problme playingback a dvd. ite seems the libdvdcss cannot decrypt. Is it a new protection? anybody seen this lately? | 22:05 |
| Riddell | http://fatbuttlarry.blogspot.com/2009/08/kubuntu-logo-mock-ups.html I have to admit those proposed logos are all exceptionally ugly | 23:10 |
| lex79 | Riddell: launchpad bug 417494 | 23:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417494 in kdebindings "Broken symlink in python-kde4" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417494 | 23:26 |
| lex79 | Remove kubuntu_06_pykdeuic_install_path.diff fix the bug | 23:26 |
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