[00:00] <meway> well i just downloaded v.9
[00:00] <meway> and i cant seem to connect to the enternet
[00:00] <cor> kaddi_ synaptic is a GUI package manager,, but apt-get --purge may also work, I presume that's what it's doing in the background
[00:00] <cor> meway, how are you chatting now?
[00:00] <meway> im on my laptop windows fail lol
[00:01] <meway> xp
[00:01] <kaddi_> cor sorry, what I meant was: do i need to select purge for every package or does synaptic have an option "purge all settings for removed packages"
[00:01] <meway> i hit connect and it acts like its going to and than dosnt
[00:02] <cor> I think you'd need to search for each package, though I haven't looked into it. I rarely purge.
[00:02] <cor> meway, is this WiFi?
[00:02] <meway> no i connected it to an ethernet
[00:03] <meway> its a fresh install
[00:03] <cor> but I have used the "completely remove all settings" option in synaptic, which is the same
[00:03] <cor> meway, can you ping your gateway?
[00:03] <meway> cor complete nube means i dont have any idea on how to do that
[00:04] <noqs> kaddi, you can pass a -s to apt-get to do a simulation
[00:04] <meway> do i type ping in the terminal?
[00:04] <noqs> kaddi, maybe that will show you the files that would be removed
[00:05] <meway> ugg
[00:05] <cor> meway, gotcha!
[00:06] <Bity> Hi all. I'm still having browser difficulties after upgrading to 9.04, if anyone wants to help fix that now that would be terrific
[00:06] <cor> okay, well, to basics....
[00:06] <meway> bity i am to
[00:06] <meway> ok cor
[00:06] <cor> meway, are you using the Network Manager applet?
[00:06] <meway> i lied sort of i know how the terminal works and to connect blue tooth stuff lol
[00:06] <meway> cor no
[00:07] <cor> so how are you attempting to connect?
[00:07]  * Bity nods. "Well I have ping, and w3m can browse google too. No other browsers or IM working."
[00:07] <meway> cor shouldnt it be automatic plz dont laph at this comment
[00:07] <cor> yes, it should be automatic
[00:08] <meway> so how do i open this applet,,,
[00:08] <cor> but I assumed your automaticnetworking wasn't working and you had moved onto nidging it, by hand
[00:08] <cor> add it to your panel
[00:08] <meway> cor dont know how
[00:08] <cor> "Add Applet"
[00:09] <meway> cor dont know how
[00:09] <meway> steps by step you are talking to a ubu tard
[00:10] <LuisJa> hello, how  i can get usb support in virtual box OSE?
[00:10] <charles> anyone know of a good gui rar program that can extract from multiple rar files?  ark wont work
[00:11] <meway> cor i dont see anything that says anything about an aplet
[00:11] <kaddi_> charles: maybe try rar/unrar or unrar-nonfree
[00:12] <gio> hi. i'm trying to get kde to run under 9.04, but no way
[00:13] <gio> the errors are not that specific to get any information out of them
[00:13] <meway> is this a wast of time>
[00:13] <meway> ??
[00:13] <meway> can somone help me
[00:14] <meway> i read something about ports could this be my issue?
[00:14] <kaddi_> meway: what have you tried so far, what did you do to connect to your network? (and what kind of network is it. wireless, wired, something else?)
[00:14] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: not sure. the one i used did not work. but for pendrives and discs, you can do this: mount it on linux and share its directory with the virtualbox network folders.
[00:14] <meway> its wired
[00:14] <trappist> I've been running with wep all this time and now I'm trying to go wpa, and the knetworkmanager options don't match up with my router's options for it.  is there a configuration interface these days for wpa_supplicant?
[00:14] <cor> meway, there's a yin-shaped button at the far-right of the panel - click that.
[00:15] <trappist> charles: unrar
[00:15] <meway> kaddi_ wireless internet rouder but im wired in
[00:15] <LuisJa> raster
[00:15] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: the disc folders will be listed in the virtual box network dirs
[00:15] <LuisJa> raster_ricardo: how i can do that?
[00:15] <LuisJa> because i already installed the guest things
[00:16] <LuisJa> but dont know how to share folders
[00:16] <meway> cor i dont see it i c the blue tooth the connection things looks like cellphone bars and than its the sound icon and time and date than the power button
[00:16] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: if you are running your guest, the tool bar (if not on full screen) will have some icons
[00:16] <kaddi_> meway: do you have an applet for network activities on your desktop or a network-icon in your systray?
[00:16] <raster_ricardo> one of them is the network one. i dont have any guest os right now, so cant say for sure
[00:17] <meway> kaddi_ its a fresh install i dont know anything
[00:17] <cor> meway, right-click in empty space in panel >> Panel Options >> Add Widget
[00:17] <LuisJa> i am in CTRL + L mode :)
[00:17] <meway> im completely new to this i just happen to know ppl who directed me here
[00:17] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: when not running, you go to the prefs of your guest os and configure the shared network dirs there.
[00:17] <cor> In virtualbox, usb has to be enabled outside the running machine, no?
[00:18] <cor> it's been a while. but I remember some stuff you cannot enable while it's running.
[00:18] <kaddi_> meway: do you know which version of kde you are using? (If not open dolphin or konqueror, click on help, select "about kde" and right down the version)
[00:18] <kaddi_> *write even
[00:18] <LuisJa> holda raster_ricardo
[00:18] <charles> kaddi_: are either of those gui or are they text based?
[00:19] <LuisJa> icons in where?
[00:19] <meway> cor i right clicked the pannel there is no panel options
[00:19] <LuisJa> i am using XP as guest
[00:19] <LuisJa> and linux as host
[00:19] <kaddi_> charles: they are command line tools, I don't know if they have guis though.
[00:19] <cor> meway, what version of KDE?
[00:19] <meway> whats kde?
[00:20] <cor> you are using kubuntu, yeah?
[00:20] <meway> ubuntu .9
[00:20] <LuisJa> yes
[00:20] <meway> 9 something
[00:20] <cor> Ubuntu? Not Kubuntu?
[00:20] <meway> the top one on the ubuntu .com list
[00:20] <meway> yea
[00:20] <raster_ricardo> cor: yes, but some versions of virtual box does not support usb directly.
[00:20] <meway> 0.o
[00:20] <cor> there's an  #ubuntu channel, you know!
[00:21] <meway> lol
[00:21] <cor> raster_ricardo, are they using an old version?
[00:21] <LuisJa> LOL
[00:21] <meway> cor that channel is full of bots and unavailable ppl
[00:21] <LuisJa> than joke make me laugh so hard xDDD
[00:21] <meway> im assumeing that ubuntu is quite similer
[00:21] <raster_ricardo> cor: not sure.
[00:22] <meway> im hopeing anyway
[00:22] <raster_ricardo> meway: is similar if you get into the command line
[00:22] <LuisJa> raster_ricardo: icons in where? i am using xp as guest and linux as host, and i dont know how to share folders, can u help me pls?
[00:22] <meway> :/
[00:22] <kaddi_> meway: the applications on ubuntu are different from the one on kubuntu. Where they use nautilius we have dolphin, where they use evince, we use okular, where they use networkmanager, we use knetworkmanager
[00:22] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: sure.
[00:22] <meway> well my issue is a fresh install and no internet availability
[00:22] <raster_ricardo> is your guest running?
[00:23] <LuisJa> yes
[00:23] <meway> there is a dolphin in ubuntu
[00:23] <OxDeadC0de> does anyone know how to remove a word from kate's dictionary?
[00:23] <meway> no its a pidgen lol
[00:23] <kaddi_> lol
[00:23] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: in the window where xp is in, in the bottom right, you have some icons
[00:23] <meway> yea i just sounded retarded
[00:23] <kaddi_> not quite the same XD
[00:23] <LuisJa> lol...
[00:23] <meway> lol
[00:23] <LuisJa> oh yeah
[00:23] <raster_ricardo> there's one icon that is a folder, i guess.
[00:23] <LuisJa> srry i am in CTRL + L mode raster
[00:23] <LuisJa> let me change
[00:24] <meway> ok
[00:24] <kaddi_> meway: basically you need to get networkmanager started. I would think. And you should find it somewhere in your programs, probably in internet, but that really is all that I can tell
[00:24] <raster_ricardo> if you hover the mouse it will give you a tool tip. just click on it and it will bring a new window.
[00:24] <meway> so tell me what you see in this applet after you open it
[00:24] <raster_ricardo> LuisJa: ok
[00:24] <meway> ok its i can find it
[00:24] <kaddi_> meway if you have a console handy type "nm-applet" that should start networkmanager
[00:24] <meway> i think its called terminal in here
[00:25] <meway> like dos in windows?
[00:25] <meway> sorry
[00:25] <meway> ment
[00:25] <meway> command prompt
[00:25] <LuisJa> weird
[00:25] <LuisJa> ok
[00:25] <meway> it gave me a warning
[00:25] <kaddi_> meway: that applet we were talking about only exists in kde. it is not a command prompt, but a little program you would see in your systray, just like the internet connection thingie you have in systray in XP
[00:26] <meway> one sec
[00:26] <meway> nettwork connections?
[00:26] <meway> i clicked that
[00:26] <kaddi_> sounds great
[00:27] <meway> it says wired wireless mobile broadband
[00:27] <meway> i clicked wired tab
[00:27] <meway> and it says auto eth0
[00:27] <meway> im going to click add
[00:28] <kaddi_> and that's where you are on your own, because I can not get that applet on my pc. I would advise to try in #ubuntu there are a lot of people there right now
[00:28] <meway> kaddi_ doubtfull
[00:29] <meway> there are 2 real ppl in that stupid room the wrest are bots and lazy admins that wont say anything
[00:29] <meway> ok so on applet what dose it say or what do you normally do?
[00:29] <meway> method automatic dhcp ?
[00:30] <meway> DHCP*
[00:30] <meway> or choose a diffrent...
[00:30] <kaddi_> meway: I don't know, I have never used that program, as I am on kde not gnome. Try dhcp, but I really can't help you from here on
[00:30] <meway> new program network tools
[00:31] <cor> most deb systems' networkings are way easier to setup once you remove all the gui tools
[00:31] <meway> gives me ip information
[00:31] <meway> sucks
[00:31] <meway> ping
[00:31] <meway> mhm
[00:31] <cor> it's all in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:31] <cor> one line of text, forget.
[00:32] <meway> ok ttyl thanks fo the help
[00:32] <meway> for*
[00:32] <kaddi_> meway: and seriously the guys in ubuntu are a nice group, give them another chance
[00:32] <kaddi_> too late
[00:34] <cor> na, those #ubuntu dudes will slap you hard, biatch!
[00:34] <kaddi_> :o
[00:34] <kaddi_> I must have been in the wrong channel then :p
[00:34] <cor> I've been banned too many times from there ;o)
[00:34] <LuisJa> why kubuntu is racist with ubuntu channel? LOL
[00:34] <LuisJa> its not the same gentle people? :)
[00:35] <kaddi_> srsly that is the first time I heard it this way round, usually you see kubuntu users hitting ubuntu because noone replies here :p
[00:36] <tio> tes
[00:43] <Refraxx> Hello again, I lost power for a few. I need help with the lag in my computer.
[00:45] <cor> Ctrl-Esc
[00:45] <cor> Click "CPU" column, order by biggest first.
[00:46] <Refraxx> ok cor, what next?
[00:48] <Refraxx> I see a lot of names I don't understand.
[00:49] <Refraxx> cor--Does "kill process" do what I think it does?  Not just delete?
[00:49] <kaddi_> i need to install/reinstall the kio-trash, as I have been getting "invalid address: trash:/" in alt-f2 or the wastebin-widget. However reinstalling kdebase-runtime did not solve the problem, What else could I try?
[00:50] <cor> well, it depends
[00:50] <cor> Refraxx, some proccesses are required
[00:51] <cor> Refraxx, and knowing which is which, and how much CPU each is roughly expected to be using, is the key to solving your problem, probably. Other things can lag a machine, missing netwotk hosts, disk access, other things.
[00:51] <Refraxx> I figured as much, that's why I havent done anything with any of it yet. Its all just a little too new for me yet. I dont know what I'm doing  or wich program to kill
[00:52] <Refraxx> would defragging the drive help? Or is there a way to do it in Kubuntu?
[00:57] <cor> Refraxx, when do you most notice the lag?
[00:57] <cor> during any particular task(s)?
[00:58] <Refraxx> Mostly when I'm online, specifically when on youtube and/or when something is moving onscreen.
[00:59] <kaddi_> i need to install/reinstall/fix the kio-trash, as I have been getting "invalid address: trash:/" in alt-f2 or the wastebin-widget. apt-file search kio| grep trash, showed it should be in kdebase-runtime. However reinstalling kdebase-runtime did not solve the problem, I also checked that the file is present in /usr/lib/kde4/trash.so. What else could I try? Could it be that the widget and alt-f2 are looking for it in /usr/lib/kde3?
[00:59] <Refraxx> It also does it when switching from bookmark to bookmark
[00:59] <kaddi_> is there anywhere else I could ask about this problem besides #kde?
[01:01] <Refraxx> cor--It laggs severely when I'm trying to watch Hulu or Fancast
[01:01] <kaddi_> Refraxx: are you by any chance using an intel graphics card?
[01:02] <Refraxx> Yes, as a matter of fact I am. Is that the problem?  Well, not only that my computer is also abt 4 yrs old.
[01:02] <Gpoke> Anyone know how to login as root in the ubuntu live cd
[01:02] <Gpoke> ?
[01:03] <kaddi_> Refraxx: there are known regressions in jaunty with intel graphics card.
[01:03] <kaddi_> !intel
[01:03] <Bity> You just need to type 'sudo', no password is required for the live ubuntu..
[01:04] <Gpoke> the xubuntu live cd asks for a user name and password you have 30 seconds until your logged in as a guest
[01:04] <Gpoke> Im trying to recover my hard drive
[01:04] <Gpoke> my hard drive doesn't show up on the live cd and Im not sure how to mount that
[01:04] <kaddi_> Refraxx: I updated to the 2.6.30 kernel and the newer xserver, which increased performance a lot. The improvements really depends on the grapihcs card though, but I think it's worth a try
[01:06] <Refraxx> Ok kaddi, How do I upload that kernel?
[01:06] <Refraxx> I'll give it a shot
[01:06] <kaddi_> Refraxx: the second link has instructions on how to update the kernel :)
[01:06] <Gpoke> anyone know how to mount an ntfs drive with a ubuntu live cd?
[01:07] <rav> hello. i'm having problems with suspend to ram on kubuntu jaunty on my laptop. i close the lid, and when i open it again nothing happens. how can i fix this?
[01:07] <kaddi_> Refraxx: or is something in that link unclear
[01:07] <kaddi_> ?
[01:07] <Bity> Hey. My browsers in 9.04 are still stuck waiting for a reply except in w3m. Can anyone help fix?
[01:07] <Refraxx> What second link?
[01:07] <kaddi_> !intel |Refraxx
[01:07] <kaddi_> the second link from there ;)
[01:08] <Refraxx> oh, ok. thanks
[01:12] <rav> i'm using skype on jaunty, but the program has no sound. the sound files are there, but it seems it can't play them
[01:12] <Refraxx> I have to step away for a few, something came up. I'll be right back
[01:17] <jancarlos> hola
[01:21] <cor> I AM BORED!
[01:21] <cor> there, I said it.
[01:24] <Refraxx> Ok cor. This stupid thing is not letting me download the kernel. it keeps coming up with somekind of file error
[01:25] <cor> what's not letting you download a kernel? Firefox?
[01:26] <Refraxx> the 2.30.5 upgrade.
[01:27] <Refraxx> I went to the second link & tried to download the one that sounded the closest to what I need
[01:27]  * cor scrolls up to see what the hell Refraxx is referring to.
[01:28] <Refraxx> Timestamp    20:07   name: ubottu
[01:28] <tommaso> hello to all! I have a weird problem: I'm trying to delete a file from kubuntu and it keeps coming back! it's an avi file and I'm not able to cancel it
[01:30] <NJL> good god, who decides the color schemes to use with kdevelop4 in kubuntu?
[01:30] <Refraxx> I don't know, but they should be shot        HEhehee
[01:31] <cor> along with the others! except, then WE would have to write the code!
[01:31] <dodecanese> where can i read the smart state of my harddrives?
[01:31] <NJL> man, I was gonna switch back to kdevelop 3 'cause it was so bad
[01:31] <NJL> but I can't get the deps to install correctly, so now I'm trying to fix 4
[01:32] <Refraxx> ok, I have to go now. I'll try to come back later to try & fix the lag problem
[01:34] <OxDeadC0de> fyi: in 8.10(No idea about newer versions), if you add a word to the spell check dictionary by default in say... kate.. it stores in ~/.config/enchant/language_locale.dic, in case anyone else has problems finding where to remove mistakenly added words. It took me forever to figure out where it was stored.
[01:37] <pglenn> there isn't anybody in here who could help me out with a KDE/Gnome conflict on 9.04 netbook remix, is there?
[01:42] <tommaso> there's a way to delete files through command line? there's a file that keeps coming back, I'm not able to delete it
[01:42] <cor> depends on the conflict, I huess
[01:42] <cor> *guess
[01:42]  * cor sneezes
[01:42] <cor> tommmaso, rm -rf <file>
[01:43] <cor> tommmaso, but if it "keeps coming back", then deleting it isn't the solution.
[01:43] <tommaso> thank you cor, so what should I do?
[01:44] <tommaso> it's an avi file so nothing harmful
[01:45] <tommaso> but it's a broken file, maybe that's why kubuntu is messing with it
[01:45] <pglenn> please for the love of moses, tell me there is SOMEBODY here who can help me
[01:46] <cor> kubuntu, unlikely. how did you get the file? a torrent client, maybe?
[01:46] <cor> pglenn, try asking something.
[01:47] <pglenn> there isn't anybody in here who could help me out with a KDE/Gnome conflict on 9.04 netbook remix, is there?
[01:47] <pglenn> sorry, I asked about 3 times
[01:47] <cor> that's not a question
[01:47] <pglenn> ok
[01:47] <cor> try again
[01:47] <cor> using tha actual issue as the basis of your typing
[01:48] <tommaso> yes cor but there was nothing wrong in the torrent. the problem is that by mistake I copied the file to another directory when it wasn't still complete and now I can't delete it. but the file was genuine because when I completed the downloading I was able to play it fine
[01:49] <cor> amazing how I guessed it was a torrent, huh?
[01:49] <pglenn> I just installed netbook remix onto a laptop, however the remix desktop in Gnome is very sluggish, so I disabled it. I installed the kubunu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop packages via synaptic, and kept GDM as the default display manager. However, when I boot into KDE, both Gnome and KDE start simultaneously, and this causes the system to perform extremely sluggishly
[01:49] <pglenn> is there any way that I can fix this? I apologize for my earlier vagueness
[01:50] <cor> pglenn, decide on a window manager, and remove the others.
[01:50] <cor> there are more complex solutions, but that works for most.
[01:51] <pglenn> sweet, I will try that
[01:51] <pglenn> thank you
[01:52] <cor> I recommend KDE/KDM
[01:52] <tommaso> yes, cor you guessed right but because only with torrents you can mess with temporary files
[01:52] <LuisJa> whats the command to uninstall programs?
[01:52] <cor> gnome is going backwards
[01:52] <cor> aptitude remove <app>
[01:52] <LuisJa> whats the command to uninstall programs?
[01:53] <tommaso> with emule when the file is incomplete it is different
[01:53] <LuisJa> thx
[01:53] <gaston_> Hola a todos
[01:54] <tommaso> but cor do you think it is a virus? how is that possible?
[01:54] <cor> no tommaso, lots of things can, but with only with torrents does one regularly find people with "magic" files like yours. Just stop the torrent. Move the complete file to its final location, and if you still have some seeding to do to hit 1:1, open the .torrent and point it to the new location.
[01:55] <gaston_> hola='?
[01:55] <cor> when I say stop, I mean "stop and remove"
[01:55] <cor> but NOT stop and remove and remove data
[01:57] <tommaso> cor, I feel so stupid now because I got it what you mean
[01:57] <tommaso> yes, it's because the file is still active in the torrent download list
[01:57] <tommaso> oh my god I'm so ashamed :(
[01:57] <tommaso> that was really stupid to ask, I'm sorry!
[01:57] <cor> ;o)
[01:58] <gaston_> hola hay alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[01:59] <leandro> hey guys, I'm new to ubuntu/linux world... when i access the /var/www (i've installed apache previously) path, i'm not able to create a new folder through gui interface with my user... how can i do that...?
[01:59] <LuisJa> cor that didnt worked ¬¬
[01:59] <LuisJa> i will use adept...
[02:00] <LuisJa> damn i am having a bad lag, i writed that 1:30 minutes ago
[02:02] <cor> maybe a black hole close by
[02:07] <raster_ricardo> leandro: you are the normal user, /var/www is only accessible by the admin
[02:07] <raster_ricardo> dont use gui for admin things
[02:07] <raster_ricardo> leandro: and you can use ANY folder for sites.
[02:08] <raster_ricardo> like, when you are going to configure your websites (if you are using virtualhosts) you can point to any directory
[02:08] <leandro> raster_ricardo but everytime i need to create a folder inside www is very annoying
[02:08] <raster_ricardo> for example: /home/leandro/www
[02:08] <leandro> i mean inside the terminal
[02:09] <raster_ricardo> leandro: with time you will learn that the command line is your best friend. =P
[02:09] <raster_ricardo> anyway... you can have /home/leandro/www (or anything) and then, in the site configuration you point it to that folder
[02:10] <leandro> yes, good point.. i'll try to do that
[02:11] <raster_ricardo> leandro: cool!
[02:12] <cor> dolphin.. sftp://root@localhost/etc/doodah.rc
[02:12] <cor> use gui for admin things. YES! DO IT!
[02:13] <cor> Kate willl handle the documents transparently. and you go root power.
[02:13] <cor> not so transparently as with the old fish protocol, but still...
[02:14] <raster_ricardo> cor: i like to use the command lne so I know Im doing somthing that is not so trivial..
[02:14] <raster_ricardo> vim for the win!
[02:14]  * raster_ricardo waits for the emacs fans.
[02:14] <cor> i have no love for vi(*)
[02:14] <maco> awww
[02:14] <cor> nor emacs, bith suck
[02:14] <cor> *BOTH
[02:14] <cor> SUCK
[02:15] <gh> hello, I have tried both the latest snapshot, and 9.04 does not recognize when I have my ethernet cable plugged in. checking dmesg and ifconfig shows its there.
[02:15] <raster_ricardo> cor: ed user?
[02:15] <cor> but then, kate is pretty shit, too
[02:15] <maco> language...
[02:15] <maco> cor:
[02:15] <cor> kubuntu users are really at a loss for a decent text editor
[02:15] <cor> oops, sorry.
[02:16] <cor> Kte is aptly named, and like any woman, she a) has a mind of her own, though she will often wait until your back is turned to express this, and b) changes her mind on a whim.
[02:16] <gh> and if it matters the ubuntu/xubuntu see the card and recognize the cable is in fact plugged in.
[02:17] <lorecaster> hey all... if i were to ask you fine folks if there were an alternative to DreamWeaver for linux... i would be directed to Quanta. anyone ever use it?
[02:18] <maco> nope. but if someone tells you bluefish, dont listen. its only an alternative if you used dreamweaver's html editor only
[02:18] <lorecaster> who in the gods has time for plaintext html these days? :P
[02:18] <lorecaster> thanks for the advice.
[02:19] <gh> so umm... anyone like umm... heard of umm... that problem?
[02:19] <gh> or better yet umm... know how to fix it?
[02:19] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: you dont need a WYSIWYG editor, any decent ide with text completion and other nice features is enough
[02:19] <raster_ricardo> features like code snippets and stuff.
[02:20] <lorecaster> i agree. ideas?
[02:20] <raster_ricardo> Quanta, Kate, Geany, Gedit.
[02:20] <cor> UEx beta is coming along nicely...
[02:21] <cor> still opens multiple instances, but soon they tell me that's fixed
[02:21] <cor> now in 64bit, too
[02:21] <LuisJa> how i can know if that is 9.04 and (i386/AMD65)?
[02:21] <lorecaster> i've been comissioned to build an artist's website for commission-profit, and she's doing rather well for herself. I'm also a civil-engineering student, and don't have the time to kill myself. i've got a quad-core machine with 8-gig of ram running the most recent ubuntu in gnome... if that helps
[02:22] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: than, gedit and geany are good tools
[02:22] <raster_ricardo> I've wrote an article about web dev on gnome, but smashingmagazine.com hasnt published it yet.
[02:23] <lorecaster> and does anyone recommend webhosting? i went with bluehost before, they were good but pricy. looking into inmotion and JustHost now
[02:23] <LuisJa> how i can know if that is 9.04 and (i386/AMD65)?
[02:23] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: depends on what you are going to use.
[02:23] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: i recommend linode and webfaction
[02:24] <cor> JEdit is okay, by the way, and cross-platform, too.
[02:24] <cor> UEx, when the wrinkles get ironed out, will knock them all for six
[02:24] <lorecaster> i don't have the time for crazy toys... unlimited space and unlimited bandwidth are ubiquitous it seems... i'd like message boards, and integrated paypal, but it's not that important. is there one dominant program that 'rules the market' like Dreamweaver does?
[02:24] <raster_ricardo> leandro: btw, have a look on articles about debian/(k)ubuntu apache virtual hosting.
[02:24] <cor> currently, I'm playing with what I once described as "my dream editor", long before it even existed
[02:25] <cor> "a text editor based on mozilla technology"
[02:25] <cor> Firefox, Thunderbird, <Editor> = The Holy Trinity.
[02:25] <cor> Erm, it's called Komodo
[02:25] <lorecaster> i want the reliability of online hosting though
[02:25] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: I dont know how you use DW. if you use it and its integration with adobe/macromedia tools, you'd be better with a mac or anything.
[02:25] <cor> that host check site tells me I average 99.9%, and I pay like £3/year
[02:26] <jiohdi> any way to keep any one program from hogging up all the cpu time and locking up the system?
[02:26] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: linode and webfaction offers a lot of features
[02:26] <cor> unlimited bandwidth
[02:26] <cor> dunno if they still take these special deals, though.
[02:26] <lorecaster> cor: what provider?
[02:26] <cor> jiohdi, yes
[02:26] <raster_ricardo> but paypal integration is beyond hosting services. it is more concerned with web scripts and stuff. whatever if it is ruby, php or python script
[02:26] <jiohdi> cor... ok... how? :)
[02:26] <cor> it's freepgs, but owned by lvcs hosting
[02:27] <cor> I got an account years ago, and when my expensive host went belly-up, I switched my stuff to them as an interim measure - been there ever since
[02:27] <lorecaster> it places limits on bandwidth and stuff now... not for me
[02:27] <cor> some months I top 50,00 hits, they never complain
[02:28] <cor> 50,00 a day, rather
[02:28] <cor> Fifty Thousand
[02:28] <cor> excuse me and my effin desktop keyboard
[02:28] <cor> usually chat on the laptop,. and this is why!!
[02:29] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: linode and webfaction have a really reasonable bandwidth
[02:29] <cor> there are lots of hosts out there with side-operations.
[02:29] <lorecaster> i -only- want unlimited bandwidth
[02:29] <lorecaster> it's an OCD thing
[02:30]  * Bity is away: Gone away for now.
[02:30] <cor> that's why I stay with them. Unlimited bandwidth is the way to go, if you can get it.
[02:30] <lorecaster> http://www.justhost.com/hosting-features these guys look incredible
[02:30] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: unlimited bandwidth is a dream or something not so trustful
[02:30] <jiohdi> cor...
[02:31] <lorecaster> pardon?
[02:31] <raster_ricardo> lorecaster: do you seriously think you will use more than 200GB of bw?
[02:32] <lorecaster> of course not... but like i said, it's an OCD thing...
[02:33] <cor> hmm...
[02:33] <cor> 1 slashdot, even a lifehacker front page and 300GB,,, easy!
[02:33] <cor> especially if there's a download attached.
[02:34] <raster_ricardo> but 200GB is the cheapest of their plans
[02:34] <lorecaster> i have seen some beautiful flash websites... though i am not versed in flash at all... some of those are downright pretty
[02:34] <cor> flash = googledeath
[02:34] <lorecaster> check out my link above
[02:34] <lorecaster> pardon?
[02:35] <raster_ricardo> google cant index flash text
[02:35] <cor> I know SEO. and flash = google death, trust me.
[02:35] <raster_ricardo> plus, flash is not mean to be the site, rather, a feature. like a media play
[02:35] <cor> exactly!
[02:35] <lorecaster> it's one option among many. what do you guys think of JustHost.com?
[02:35] <lorecaster> i'm thinking of registering with it
[02:36] <raster_ricardo> never seem before.
[02:36] <lorecaster> me either, but they offer some promising things
[02:36] <raster_ricardo> anyway....
[02:36] <raster_ricardo> im leaving now!
[02:36] <raster_ricardo> www.linode.com, www.webfaction.com and http://mediatemple.net/
[02:37] <raster_ricardo> have fun
[02:37] <Xnet0> Need help with konsole in dolphin can anyone help??
[02:39] <Xnet0> Can anyone help m,e?
[02:46] <LuisJa> is there a way to auto start windows xp emulated in Vbox?
[02:47] <cor> Xnet0, like F4?
[03:14]  * Bity is back.
[03:24] <drachenblut> im getting error no block devices foundnd check cryptopts=source= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices:  cat /proc/modules ls /dev
[03:25] <drachenblut> anyone can help me figure out how to fix this
[03:29] <lnunesbr_> hey guys, any good suggestion for a programming/text editor?
[03:30] <James147> lnunesbr_: what do you mean?
[03:31] <lnunesbr_> an equivalent to Mate or Coda in mac
[03:32] <neptunepink> I can't hear sound, howtofix?
[03:34] <James147> lnunesbr_: you looking for a web development program?
[03:35] <drachenblut> lnunesbr_: have you tried checking out vim?
[03:35] <lnunesbr_> James147, yes
[03:35] <lnunesbr_> drachenblut for gui interface
[03:35] <drachenblut> lnunesbr_: gvim
[03:38] <James147> lnunesbr_: found a package called kdewebdev might be helpful
[03:39] <lnunesbr_> James147 interesting, i'll try that
[03:39] <James147> lnunesbr_: not sure how useful nit is :S
[03:40] <James147> lnunesbr_: kate is always a good text editor if all else fails :)
[03:40] <lnunesbr_> i'm looking one with a good highlighting, auto complete
[03:41] <James147> lnunesbr_: i know kate does basic auto complete at least for c++
[03:41] <James147> lnunesbr_: dont see why it wouldnet do html if it can do c++
[03:42] <lnunesbr_> i'm looking a good editor for php
[03:44] <drachenblut> lnunesbr_: also there's geeny
[03:47] <James147> lnunesbr_: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[03:48] <James147> lnunesbr_: although bthat seems to be fore kde3.5
[03:49] <lnunesbr_> James147 I'll try PDT
[04:20] <aaaa1> where to disable kubuntu 9.04 logout sound?
[04:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> aaaa1: Should be in system settings under sound
[04:37] <aaaa1> not found yet,i think it slow down logout & shutdown.
[04:39] <aaaa1> ok, it's in notifications under system settings.
[05:06] <HaRDi437> Hi :)
[05:07] <HaRDi437> is there a kde  equivalent for miro (getmiro.com ) ?
[05:24] <igor> hi, how one can disable update notifier and networkmanager in system tray (kde 4.3)?
[05:25] <igor> I mean they will not appear after next boot
[05:36] <davhere> hi
[05:37] <davhere> i got a browser problem
[05:38] <Guest75751> davhere: Ask in the channel
[05:38] <davhere> when i go to playlist.com i can log in and all but my player wont show
[05:39] <davhere> and in evony.com game does  not let me see my city
[05:39] <Guest75751> davhere: Does playlist.com use any script?
[05:40] <Guest75751> davhere: Probably, you need to install flash player
[05:40] <davhere> well i was able to up to 3 days ago
[05:40] <davhere> maybe reinstal that?
[05:41] <davhere> not sure what playlist uses
[05:41] <Guest75751> davhere: It works for me. I'm using firefox and I have adobe flash installed.
[05:41] <davhere> i use ff also
[05:41] <Guest75751> davhere: I guess it uses flash
[05:41] <davhere> ok i'll work on that
[05:45] <Guest75751> davhere: Playlist.com seems like a good site.Do you know what could be the bitrate of streams played?
[05:46] <davhere> what that mean?
[05:48] <Guest75751> davhere: All music streams have a bitrate, which refers to quality of the music played.If you were playing a mp3 file, it should be atleast 128kbps to be of good quality. kbps stands for kilo bits per sec
[05:48] <davhere> oh
[05:48] <davhere> not sure of that rate there
[05:49] <davhere> seemed pretty fast though
[05:49] <Guest75751> davhere: It seems to be of good quality.Usually, online streams don't offer complete streaming of a track. There would be some missing pieces.
[05:50] <davhere> if i could veiw the player might be able to say more on that
[05:50] <davhere> ya sometimes that does happen
[05:57] <xp-killer> #kaella
[05:58] <xp-killer> is there a linux call kaella?
[06:15] <Guest53196> delicowa
[08:33] <m0u5e> how do i get blur effects in kde 4.3?
[08:33] <m0u5e> i dont see the plugin in my list :(
[08:34] <m0u5e> anyone know?
[08:56] <der_martin> moin, moin :)
[08:57] <der_martin> I've got a big issue with my sound card (hda-intel), can anybody help me with that ?
[08:57] <der_martin> goes like this :
[08:58] <der_martin> kubuntu 9.04, Kernel 2.6.31-020631rc6-generic, Soundcard:  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[08:59] <J-_> Has anyone had the problem where Juk seems to just skip through the playlist and not play a single file? I just loaded the player, and it won't play anything.
[08:59] <der_martin> until yesterday I had sound, shut down my pc the normal way via kde shutdown, this morning powered it up again and no sound at all
[08:59] <J-_> in a terminal it says, "xine is asking to seek behind the end of the data stream
[08:59] <J-_> "
[09:00] <der_martin> i can access all sound channels via alsamixer and kde-mixer, can change the volume, but NO sound
[09:00] <der_martin> as mentioned above: dmesg gives me a spurious response 0x80:0x0, last cmd=0xb35500
[09:01] <der_martin> about 50 times or even more
[09:01] <der_martin> dmesg is filled with it
[09:03] <J-_> ah hah! kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:04] <der_martin> J-_ : was this for me ?
[09:15] <J-_> I believe my problem may have fixed der_martin's too. I wish he'd stay around longer. :(
[09:39] <pedro_> hi
[09:40] <akash> I have a problem regarding Firefox in Kubuntu Jaunty
[09:41] <akash> It cannot able to open ASP pages
[09:41] <apparle> tell me the site of ASP pages
[09:42] <akash> Its secure site...http://billalert.mtnl.net.in/pgwbill/netb_payment.asp
[09:42] <akash> However it works well in IE6
[09:44] <shadeslayer> akash: the above mentioned site does not work well in?
[09:45] <akash> This is a govt site in INdia regarding bill payment and it works well in Ie6
[09:45] <AmbrNewlearner> akash: which site are you talking about?
[09:45] <shadeslayer> akash: im from india and i can access that site in rekonq easily
[09:45] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: http://billalert.mtnl.net.in/pgwbill/netb_payment.asp
[09:46] <apparle> akash: I get session expired in firefox in kubuntu..............but I have heard that some sites work only on IE..........even in windows
[09:46] <akash> Can u tell me the version of firefox u are using...I am having different plugins in firesox
[09:46] <akash> May be these plugin hinder the site
[09:47] <akash> rekonq ..is it a browser?
[09:47] <shadeslayer> akash: yep
[09:47] <apparle> akash: I use 3.0.13
[09:48] <shadeslayer> akash: http://rekonq.sourceforge.net/
[09:48] <akash> But i am getting couldn't find package in at-get
[09:48] <AmbrNewlearner> akash: I use firefox and I use no plugins.....I can access http://billalert.mtnl.net.in/ and all links on that page....
[09:48] <shadeslayer> akash: you have to compile rekonq
[09:48] <akash> Ok shades.....i will try to compile and get back to u
[09:48] <AmbrNewlearner> akash: the link opens fine in any standard web browser
[09:49] <shadeslayer> akash: you need kde-devel , cmake , and build-essential :)
[09:50] <AmbrNewlearner> Anyways, I installed Kubuntu yesterday on my PC (intel x86) and I chose not to install GRUB in Kubuntu installer
[09:50] <akash> Hi ambr ...actually during redirection to Netbanking site...it opens a blank page only
[09:50] <AmbrNewlearner> now I tried using GAG boot manager to dual boot OpenBSD and Kubuntu but Kubuntu is not loading
[09:51] <AmbrNewlearner> GAG says (when I select "Kubuntu"): "Sector boot not found otr invalid"
[09:52] <AmbrNewlearner> akash: maybe you are right......but I cannot check since I don't have an account there
[09:52] <akash> Well i am trying it with Rekon
[09:53] <AmbrNewlearner> I tried installing GRUB from live CD using grub-install (first mounting linux partition, then mounting /dev, /proc, /sys and then chrootING to linux partition)
[09:53] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: and?
[09:54] <AmbrNewlearner> but I cannot install GRUB....it says something related to "/boot not found"
[09:54] <AmbrNewlearner> I tried AutoSuperGRUBDisk....It says: Missing Operating system
[09:54] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: of course.....
[09:55] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: you see you do not have the required /boot folder to install GRUB
[09:55] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: how can I boot into Kubuntu now?
[09:55] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: you might need to reinstall.... if anyone has other opinions....
[09:56] <casa> .
[09:57] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: ahh.....reinstall :( .... If there is no other option, I will reinstall
[09:57] <akash> Hi shades i am getting error in cmake see http://paste.ubuntu.com/257965/
[09:57] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: the problem is mainly that /boot contains your kernels
[09:57] <shadeslayer> akash: do you have kde-devel installed?
[09:59] <akash> No man but I need to fetch 102MB! to install it...any other option
[09:59] <shadeslayer> akash: you can try arora as another option,(you need kde-devel to compile rekonq)
[10:00] <shadeslayer> akash: sudo apt-get install arora
[10:01] <akash> Thanks man got it.....Now soon i will proceed to my next problem :)
[10:02] <shadeslayer> akash: sure :)
[10:06] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: I tried finding some help on #ubuntu but it looks like I need to reinstall
[10:07] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: yeah,i remember when a friend of mine removed /boot accidently.... nothing can be done
[10:07] <akash> Hi shades ...my second problem is about Xorg and plasma takes very high CPU usage
[10:07] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: oh wai
[10:07] <akash> nearly 80-90%
[10:07] <shadeslayer> akash: whats the speed of the processor?
[10:07] <akash> how to check it
[10:07] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: can you chroot into the kubuntu system?
[10:07] <AmbrNewlearner> I will check the local LUG to see if anyone can help with it.....otherwise REinstall ;)
[10:08] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer:
[10:08] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: yup I can chroot
[10:08] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: if yes,make a /boot directory,reinstall the kernels and then run grub-install
[10:08] <frinux> hi there
[10:08] <shadeslayer> frinux: hi
[10:08] <frinux> I have a problem with my firefox 3.5: some pictures shows only in black and white
[10:09] <frinux> although in an another browser it is in color
[10:09] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: How do we reinstall kernel?
[10:09] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: Anyways, there is a /boot on my Kubuntu partitions
[10:10] <akash> info abt my cpu http://paste.ubuntu.com/257970/
[10:10] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner:can you paste the contents of the folder?
[10:11] <AmbrNewlearner> yup....in a minute..
[10:11] <shadeslayer> akash: what version of KDE?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> akash: do you by any chance live near manipal?
[10:12] <akash> kde4
[10:12] <akash> No in delhi...why?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> akash: 4.1 , 4.2 , or 4.3 ?
[10:13] <AmbrNewlearner> akash: I own a PC with similar configuration that runs KDE 4.2.......I dont feel any problems
[10:13] <akash> how to check exact kde verion
[10:13] <shadeslayer> akash: i have a friend who is in manipal
[10:14] <shadeslayer> akash: help > about KDE
[10:14] <shadeslayer> akash: in any application
[10:14] <akash> 4.2.2
[10:15] <shadeslayer> akash: try upgrading to 4.3 and see if the problem persists.... nothing else i can think of
[10:15] <akash> just with apt-get install kde
[10:16] <shadeslayer> akash: see the topic
[10:16] <shadeslayer> akash: what graphics card btw?
[10:17] <akash> I am having no graphic card installes
[10:18] <shadeslayer> akash: intel IGP ?
[10:19] <akash> Sorry I am little novice in these field..can I see these specs in /proc
[10:19] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: OpenBSD is refusing to mount my kubuntu partition......If you are online for some more time then I will reboot into some live CD and link you to contents of my /boot
[10:19] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: sure
[10:19] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: I will get back to you in about 10 minutes;)
[10:20] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: sure,ill be here if theres no power outage
[10:20] <AmbrNewlearner> Ah.....same here.....as we share the same country ;)
[10:20] <shadeslayer> AmbrNewlearner: India here
[10:21] <AmbrNewlearner> shadeslayer: India here too
[10:21] <shadeslayer> cool
[10:24] <martin__> hi all, I have a serious problem that I'd really appreciate help with. I shutdown yesterday (cleanly) and today, when I booted *all* my work from yesterday afternoon was gone. About 7 hours worth.
[10:25] <akash> Hey wait...INDIA here tooo
[10:25] <shadeslayer> akash: ;)
[10:26] <shadeslayer> akash: btw the high CPU usage might be due to the intel IGP,but i need the exact model no. of the intel card to be sure
[10:26] <shadeslayer> !intel | akash : look here for more :
[10:46] <akash> Hi shades i have recently upgrade to kde ..since then plasma crashes!
[10:46] <shadeslayer> akash: 4.3 ?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> akash: press alt+f2 > plasma-desktop
[10:47] <akash> nothing is working ...not alt+tab
[10:47] <akash> desktop is not coming...
[10:47] <shadeslayer> akash: alt+F2 not alt+tab
[10:47] <akash> not working either
[10:47] <shadeslayer> akash: um,youre on 4,3 right?
[10:48] <akash> may be... i have just perform apt-get upgrade
[10:48] <akash> after adding KDE3 repos
[10:48] <shadeslayer> akash: no,you need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:49] <shadeslayer> akash: and kde 3 repos? dont you mean kde 4.3 repos?
[10:49] <akash> y
[10:49] <akash> Yes
[10:49] <shadeslayer> akash: its a complete upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3....
[10:49] <akash> I even cannot go switch between windows
[10:50] <akash> shall i sent you my sources.list
[10:50] <shadeslayer> akash: press ctrl+alt+F1 and login and then dist-upgrade
[11:16] <sourcemaker> why does suspend to ram not work... when I use cryptoluks?
[11:42] <zizzone> ciao a tutti
[11:42] <zizzone> qualcuno di voi conosce beryl?
[11:43] <Mamarok> !it | zizzone80
[11:43] <Mamarok> zizzone80: and KDE4 doesn't use compiz or beryl, it has it's own compositing in Kwin
[13:02] <kennethaar> Hi. Is there an easy way to change a link to another file or folder into a real file or folder?  GUI or commandline is okay either way...
[13:03] <gjulian> kennethaar: what do you mean? a link made with ln -s looks as a real file..
[13:04] <kennethaar> I dragged a file. Chose link as option and now I have 150 links I have to change to real folder or else my phone cant see the file structure I made...
[13:05] <gjulian> kennethaar: you can copy the files not linking, but selecting copy option
[13:06] <kennethaar> I know but doing this again would take an hour I was wondering how I could change the links into real copies.
[13:06] <kennethaar> @ gjulian
[13:08] <gjulian> I think copying the files, not linking, is the only solution. The links are only that, links to the real file.
[13:09] <kennethaar> gjulian: Googling: making linked folders real folders in linux didn't give any suggestions either...
[13:10] <gjulian> kennethaar: But, you want a structure of linked files contained on real folders?
[13:12] <kennethaar> gjulian: No, there are no files, only folders in a specific structure.
[13:13] <gjulian> kennethaar: so, you want only a folder structure, with no files in it, right?
[13:13] <kennethaar> yes
[13:16] <g_giulio> hi
[13:17] <g_giulio> some1 can help me to instal  shockwave on kde on kubuntu 9.04?Thanks
[13:17] <gjulian> kennethar: I think this should work
[13:17] <shadeslayer> g_giulio: theres no shockwave for kubuntu
[13:17] <shadeslayer> !shockwave | g_giulio
[13:17] <gjulian> kennethaar: for i in $( find -type d <parentdirectory> ); do mkdir <destination>/$i; done
[13:17] <kennethaar> gjulian: To specify a bit more: I have my projects laid out as folders. Inside the different subfolders/subprojects I have specified the next action. The folders that are my next actions are linked into a folder called next actions. But when I copy my next actions list to my phone they wont copy because fat does not recognize linked folders.
[13:18] <g_giulio> but if i'd have to run on firefox?like a plugin?
[13:18] <gjulian> kennethar: ah, that's a different thing
[13:18] <kennethaar> gjulian: ah okay.
[13:21] <gjulian> kennethaar: I think cp should have an option to copy the linked file, not the link...
[13:22] <gjulian> but I dont know which is...
[13:22] <gjulian> try man cp
[13:22] <kennethaar> gjulian: hm ok I'll check. thanks
[13:22] <gjulian> you're welcome
[13:27] <leaf-sheep> gjulian: Shockwave is not popular IMO.
[13:28] <shadeslayer> g_giulio: its not possible i think,most sites use flash
[13:30] <g_giulio> shadeslayer: yes 've just installed flash plugin and i've tried to install shockwavw but i 'm not able...
[13:30] <g_giulio> maybe it's not possible...
[13:31] <shadeslayer> g_giulio: shockwave is not available for kubuntu....
[13:32] <g_giulio> ok thanks 4 all!!!
[13:33] <Lademord> How do I upgrade to karmic alpha? 'update-manager -d' obviously doesn't work in KDE
[13:33] <shadeslayer> Lademord: #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <Lademord> I know, shadeslayer. But I thought that was for ubuntu only
[13:40] <kennethaar> gjulian: cp -rL /home/ka/GTD/ /home/ka/2GTD/ did the trick... :-) Thank you so much.
[13:54] <muskaotik> bonjour a tous et a toutes
[13:54] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:54] <shadeslayer> hey
[13:54] <muskaotik> yo
[13:55] <muskaotik> quelqu'un parle francais et pourrais m'aider pour un petit probleme de config audio sous kubuntu svp ?
[13:55] <bazhang> !fr | muskaotik
[13:55] <BluesKaj> muskaotik, bonjour, mais c'est un canalanglais
[13:57] <houcine> salut.g un petit souci, aprés avoir installer compiz les bordure de quelque fenetre sont disparut
[13:59] <muskaotik> can someone help me to configure audio in Kubuntu ? i have no sound :(
[14:02] <kaddi> hi
[14:02] <muskaotik> hi
[14:02] <James147_> heya
[14:02] <kaddi> how can I stop bluetooth from loading on startup?
[14:02] <James147_> kaddi: havent found an easy way exept uninstalling it :s
[14:03] <kaddi> James147_: that doesn't sound too good :/
[14:04] <James147_> kaddi: depends if you ever use it at all
[14:07] <kaddi> James147_: not really, once in a year maybe.
[14:07] <James147_> kaddi:looking for another way to disable it now
[14:08] <kaddi> James147_: If I use these instructions: http://www.lesswatts.org/tips/wireless.php (middle of page) do you think I could reenable it?
[14:08] <houcine> je cherche un salon français SVP
[14:08] <kaddi> !fr |houcine
[14:09] <James147_> kaddi: think modprobe hci_usb reset=1 will
[14:09] <kaddi> James147_: cool, I'm gonna try that now then :)
[14:11] <kaddi> James147_: hci_usb does not exist on my pc though.. and bluetooth is still activ it only disabled "kbluelock"
[14:12] <kaddi> James147_:  I think its actually called btusb that made the bluetooth applet disappear from systray
[14:14] <James147_> kaddi: it did for me
[14:14] <James147_> kaddi: rmmod btusb killed the kblutooth sys tray and sudo hciconfig dosent report anything
[14:14] <James147_> kaddi: think that disabled it :S
[14:17] <kaddi> James147_: for me too... but running sudo rmmod btusb gives me a fatal error, so the program crashes instead of being disabled and disabling and reenabling the bluetooth with the hardware switch, brings the systray icon right back
[14:18] <kaddi> so I guess every time it finds a bluetooth chip it'll reenable bluetooth :/
[14:18] <James147_> kaddi: probally
[14:18] <kaddi> James147_: would you happen to know which packages need to be installed to get a stackframe for the bluetooth crash?
[14:18] <kaddi> a backtrace
[14:20] <James147_> kaddi: cant see any
[14:23] <kaddi> James147_: you know which package contains the kbluetooth perhaps?
[14:23] <James147_> think kdebluetooth
[14:23] <kaddi> James147_: thanks, I looked for kbluetooth and didn't get anyhits
[14:24] <James147_> kaddi: blacklisting btusb might work
[14:30] <James147_> kaddi: adding "blacklist btmod" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist stop bluetooth loading on startup
[14:31] <James147_> kaddi: btusb ^^
[14:32] <kaddi> James147_: I'm currently trying to create a backtrace for the crash, however it seems impossible, because I can't find debuggingsymbols for the experimental kubuntu repository
[14:32] <kaddi> or I'm just to stupid, to find it
[14:36] <James147_> kaddi:what version of kde are you useing? kbluetooth dosent seem to crash when i remove btusb useing kde4.3
[14:36] <kaddi> 4.2.4
[14:37] <James147_> kaddi: looks like the bug was fixed then
[14:38] <kaddi> James147_: yeah, I won't know for sure, till I upgrade, but that'll take another month or so.. :p
[14:39] <kaddi> James147_: I had acer_wmi blacklisted for a while, that removed bluetooth as well :p
[15:04] <kidblooper> good morning folks
[15:08] <kidblooper> does anyone know of a program simular to look@land thats funtional on ubuntu ?
[15:08] <kidblooper> look@lan oops
[15:12] <kidblooper> wow
[15:15] <mmauder> which packages do I need to install for amarok HEAD to find strigi on karmic?
[15:25] <mmauder> right, found it. the message was not particularly accurate. it was missing libstreamanalyzer-dev
[15:25] <dieand7> na ihr affen
[16:13] <nIxx> Hello
[16:14] <gjulian> hello
[16:15] <nIxx> I have a strange problem i just updated Ubuntu btw. Kubuntu but now i can't get the ATI drivers working :/
[16:16] <nIxx> if i install fglrx it always freezes while loading KDE
[16:19] <nIxx> so is there any solution for (possibly i just make it wrong dunno :) ) or is there anyway to go back to 8.04 ?
[16:34] <snikker> hi anyone knok
[16:35] <snikker> hi anyone know if there is a timer (for elapsed time)?
[16:35] <roldyx> hello
[16:35] <roldyx> I have 2 host
[16:36] <roldyx> and I have 2 ethernets 100mbps
[16:36] <SNAKES> KLK
[16:37] <roldyx> but when i run scp file host2:/tmp  i have 10mbps transmition
[16:37] <roldyx> why?
[16:37] <roldyx> look
[16:38] <SNAKES> nobody speak espanish
[16:38] <kaddi> !es
[16:38] <SNAKES> alguien habla español
[16:39] <roldyx> SNAKES: I speak spanish
[16:39] <roldyx> hola
[16:39] <SNAKES> ok
[16:40] <SNAKES> dime aver cual es tu problema con la red a ver si te puedo ayudar
[16:40] <roldyx> tengo 2 placas 100mbps
[16:40] <roldyx> pero copio en 10
[16:40] <roldyx> por que?
[16:40] <roldyx> ethtool eth0|grep Speed
[16:40] <roldyx>         Speed: 100Mb/s
[16:41] <roldyx> both
[16:41] <SNAKES> revisa a ver si tienes un hubs a 10 mbps
[16:41] <roldyx> mmm... maybe
[16:41] <kaddi> por favor para ayuda en espanol entre en los canales #kubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es . Ese canal es solo para ayuda en ingles
[16:41] <SNAKES> ok sorry
[16:41] <roldyx> yes
[16:42] <roldyx> SNAKES: mi espanol es muy malo
[16:42] <SNAKES> and my ingles is very bad
[16:43] <SNAKES> what is you OS
[16:44] <SNAKES> what operatin system you use
[16:44] <SNAKES> window linux mac ??
[16:45] <kaddi> this is kubuntu support channel, so chances are he's using kubuntu ;)
[16:46] <SNAKES> ok sorry again
[16:46] <SNAKES> I and new
[16:47] <SNAKES> and I dont know nothing
[16:47] <SNAKES> I dont know the rules
[16:48] <kaddi> SNAKES: then checkout /topic it'll explain what this channel is about
[16:48] <SNAKES> then help me the password for default of the cd live of kubuntu is ???
[16:48] <kaddi> SNAKES: and if you feel more at ease in spanish, then I would suggest you switch to either #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es
[16:48] <SNAKES> please tell me
[16:48] <kaddi> SNAKES: there is no password.
[16:49] <kaddi> SNAKES: where do you get asked for a password
[17:12] <Zxcvb> are there any known problems with kde 4.3?
[17:12] <skreech> Zxcvb: Yes
[17:13] <Zxcvb> what are they?
[17:13] <skreech> Check the release notes and bugs.kde.org and filter for KDE 4.3
[17:14] <rav> hello. is there a way to configure the looks of programs that use kde3 libraries on jaunty?
[17:14] <Zxcvb> skreetch: anything major compared to 4.2.4?
[17:15] <skreech> Zxcvb: Most fixes for KDE 4.2 actually occur in KDE 4.3 then are put back into 4.2 so in general KDE 4.3 normally has more fixes than KDE 4.2.4
[17:16] <skreech> however it also has many new features which come with their own bugs
[17:16] <skreech> So for highest stabilty the latest release of the older branch should be used
[17:17] <skreech> You could possibly jump from KDE 4.2.4 to KDE 4.3.2 or 4.3.3 to get the best stabilty while still moving forward and getting features
[17:17] <skreech> Unless of couse there is something from KDE 4.3 that you really need
[17:17] <Zxcvb> skreetch: do you know how you would get koffice 2.0.1 without installing kde 4.3?
[17:18] <skreech> As I recall it depended on KDE 4.3 base so you'd have to do a chroot
[17:20] <Zxcvb> skreetch: so nobody has made packages for kde 4.2.4, or is that not possible?
[17:21] <rav> is it possible to configure the looks of programs that use kde3 libraries?
[17:22] <skreech> Zxcvb: Hmm?
[17:23] <skreech> Oh for Koffice. No I don't know if that is worth the pain it would involve
[17:27] <skreech> Zxcvb: You can chroot if you like or do a VM for karmic
[17:30] <Zxcvb> also, is there a gui tool for managing running server software in kubuntu?
[17:33] <skreech> Zxcvb: Such as?
[17:33] <Zxcvb> skreech: sshd, samba, etc
[17:35] <skreech> Zxcvb: IIII haven't seen one but I remember hearing about it
[17:36] <skreech> Zxcvb: check kde-apps.org
[17:42] <Abhi_> hello all
[17:42] <Abhi_> what about all?
[17:42] <kaddi> hello
[17:43] <Abhi_> can anybody say how can i join ubuntu IRC via quassel?
[17:43] <Abhi_> i want to join ubuntu IRC also.
[17:43] <skreech> Abhi_: type /join #ubuntu
[17:43] <kaddi> you are using quassel right now?
[17:43] <Abhi_> yup
[17:44] <kaddi> just follow skreech's advice then :)
[17:44] <Abhi_> ya
[17:44] <Abhi_> its working
[18:16] <___matthias91> hi
[18:17] <kaddi> !hi | ___matthias91
[18:17] <___matthias91> whois kaddi
[18:17] <___matthias91> lol
[18:17] <kaddi> fail ;)
[18:17] <___matthias91> xDD
[18:17] <___matthias91> im new here ^^
[18:18] <kaddi> :)
[18:18] <___matthias91> are there any commands ?
[18:18] <___matthias91> help
[18:18] <___matthias91> ^^
[18:18] <kaddi>  /help will show you the default freenode options
[18:19] <___matthias91> thx
[18:19] <kaddi> and we have a bot here, that'll show you info related to ubuntu. :) The bot, that greeted you ;)
[18:23] <nicolas> hi
[18:23] <nicolas> everybody
[18:24] <James147> Hello
[18:25] <skreech> ___matthias91: What are you looking for?
[18:25] <skreech> !Hi | nicolas
[18:25] <___matthias91> @skreech   ehm..   im just looking around ^^
[18:25] <___matthias91> and, kaddi...    who are the bots ^^ ?
[18:26] <kaddi> I'm not a bot
[18:26] <kaddi> :p
[18:26]  * skreech whispers "All the bots are programmed to say that"
[18:27] <___matthias91> xDD
[18:27] <___matthias91> haha ^^
[18:27] <___matthias91> how will i see, if someone is a bot ?
[18:28] <___matthias91> and how can i send privat messages ?
[18:28] <DHGE> !irc-help
[18:28] <DHGE> !irc
[18:29] <kaddi> :o
[18:30] <kaddi> what was the command to finish an upgrade if the update was interrupted? something like dpkg --reconfigure?
[18:30] <skreech> apt-get -f install
[18:30] <James147> kaddi: sudo dpkg --reconfigure --prending   if apt-get install -f dosent work
[18:31] <James147> kaddi: or --configure --pending
[18:31] <skreech> prending?
[18:31] <skreech> what's the mean
[18:31] <skreech> ah
[18:33] <DHGE> Prenden - there is http://www.bunker5001.com   ;-)
[18:35] <kaddi> ok, kdm is crashing... anyone know how to configure wifi without a gui? (it's wpa2)
[18:36] <skreech> >_<
[18:36] <skreech> why don't you just bypass kdm ?
[18:37] <James147> kaddi: could tr startx
[18:38] <MadAGu> hey i am trying to install libstdc++6-4.3-dev and i am getting this: libstdc++6-4.3-dev: Depends: gcc-4.3-base (= 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) but 4.3.3-5ubuntu4andersk1 is to be installed
[18:40] <James147> kaddi: http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/12/18/configure-wireless-on-the-command-line/ to connect to wireless via command line
[18:40] <kaddi> skreech: James147 thanks! I got a visual.. seems as if it was only kdmgreeting that was crashing..
[18:40] <kaddi> that is awesome!
[18:40] <kaddi> *kdmgreet
[18:41] <kaddi> ok, it's crashing again :/
[18:41] <James147> kaddi kdm is the kde desktop manager, it handles sessions for different users, startx starts a session for the current user
[18:44] <der_martin> hi folks :)
[18:44] <James147> hi
[18:44] <der_martin> I'm really happy with kubuntu 9.10 alpha4
[18:44] <der_martin> but there is this old sound issue
[18:45] <James147> der_martin: what issue?
[18:45] <der_martin> my soundcard is an ALC888
[18:45] <der_martin> i can see and access all channels, also with alsamixer
[18:46] <der_martin> but i hear no sound at all
[18:46] <der_martin> dmesg gives me a hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd=0x170600
[18:46] <Xnet0> der_martin. Is your PCM channel at the highest level?
[18:46] <der_martin> kubuntu restricted extras are instelled
[18:47] <der_martin> Xnet0: in alsamixer I've only got master, front, surround, center and some other, but the first ones are all over 77%
[18:48] <der_martin> the soundcard works perfect with windoze xp
[18:48] <Xnet0> der_martin. Hmm. So you've typed "alsamier" in the terminal window? Or are you using the GUI base.?
[18:49] <der_martin> Xnet0: I used alsamixer and the gui, when i change the volume in the gui, it also changes in alsamixer
[18:49] <der_martin> seems to be working
[18:49] <Xnet0> Kkk\
[18:50] <Xnet0> Not sure then. I tried.
[18:50] <der_martin> :)
[18:50] <der_martin> thx anyway
[18:50] <der_martin> anybody else ?
[18:50] <der_martin> I think that this might be a kernel problem
[18:50] <James147> der_martin: alsa might be incorectly detecting the sound card
[18:51] <der_martin> my dmesg is filled with spurious response 0x0:0x0
[18:51] <der_martin> James147: what can i do ?
[18:51] <James147> der_martin: give me a min to figure out how i fixed it last time :)
[18:51] <der_martin> I already reinstalled the alsa stuff
[18:51] <der_martin> James147: thx :)
[18:53] <kaddi> James147: the command sudo iwconfig wlan0 key passphrase gives me "invalid argument" :/
[18:55] <James147> kaddi: look up wpa_supplicant
[18:55] <kaddi> James147: will do, thanks :)
[18:56] <James147> der_martin: can you pastbin the output of aplay -l?
[18:57] <der_martin> James147:sure
[18:58] <der_martin> James147: http://pastebin.com/m646c28a1
[19:01] <der_martin> James147: Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[19:02] <der_martin> James147: I'll pastebin my lcpsi -vv, too
[19:03] <der_martin> James147: http://pastebin.com/m59afd447
[19:05] <James147> der_martin: extract  /user/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.tar.gz  somewhere
[19:07] <James147> der_martin: look for ALC883/888 in the ALSA-Configuration.txt
[19:09] <der_martin> James147: it's not mentioned :)
[19:09] <der_martin> can't find it
[19:10] <James147> ^^ usr not user :S
[19:10] <der_martin> James147: i know ;)
[19:10] <der_martin> looked in to the file
[19:10] <der_martin> no entry for ALC883 or 888
[19:11] <kaddi> James147: thanks, I got it to work with wpa_supplicant :)
[19:13] <James147> der_martin: mine gave http://paste.ubuntu.com/258204/
[19:13] <der_martin> what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[19:13] <der_martin> 9.10 alpha4 ?
[19:14] <James147> der_martin: jaunty with kde4.3
[19:14] <der_martin> I'm running 9.10 kubuntu
[19:14] <der_martin> alpha4
[19:14] <James147> but dont think it should matter too much
[19:14] <der_martin> I hope not ;)
[19:14] <der_martin> what can i do ?
[19:15] <der_martin> reinstall alsa-base with --purge option ?
[19:15] <James147> had to do these steps on my laptop since i was useing kubuntu (since hardy i think) and they havent changed
[19:15] <James147> can try
[19:15] <der_martin> James147: what steps ?
[19:16] <James147> if not add the line "options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL" where MODEL is one from http://paste.ubuntu.com/258204/
[19:16] <James147> restart the sound system and see if ti works
[19:17] <der_martin> James147: where ? /etc/alsa.conf ?
[19:18] <James147> der_martin: opps, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:18] <der_martin> ok
[19:21] <der_martin> James147: how can I restart pulseaudio in kde 4.3 ?
[19:21] <der_martin> I restarted als-utils, didn't help
[19:22] <der_martin> James147: I'll do a reboot, maybe this helps :)
[19:22] <der_martin> be back in 2 mins
[19:22] <der_martin> :)
[19:22] <der_martin> cya
[19:22] <waltzingalong> i thought kubuntu did not need pulse
[19:29] <der_martin> hi james147
[19:29] <James147> der_martin: hi
[19:29] <der_martin> now my system has lost the soundcard, kde asked me about forgetting the device
[19:29] <der_martin> there's only digital1 for choice
[19:29] <der_martin> and no sound as usual ;)
[19:30] <James147> der_martin: sudo alsa force-reload   to reload the sound ) found it too late
[19:32] <James147> der_martin: try differnt models in the list
[19:42] <kaddi> kbuildsycoca4 is crashing and I'm trying to report that through ubuntu-bug... should I use any parameter or just ubuntu-bug? can I just reference a drkonqui document?
[19:53] <dane> whats this whole thing about?
[19:54] <kaddi> this is the english kubuntu support chanel.
[19:54] <BluesKaj> what whole thing are you referring to , dane ?
[19:54] <dr_bro> how do i get grub to load. i've got 9.04, win xp, and win7. windows 7 install messed up mbr
[19:55] <dane> kaddi answered thanks anyways
[19:55] <dane> does anyone know alot about RAM and memory?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> dr_bro, check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:56] <James147> dr_bro: need to boot in a live cd and run grub-install  more info http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[19:57] <dane> does anyone know about RAM or memory?
[19:58] <tdik> Hi all! I can't update my kubuntu to the last kde :(
[19:58] <BluesKaj> make sure your timeout is set to atleast 5secs and that windows xp chainloader is +1
[19:58] <James147> dane: anything specific?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> dr_bro, above
[19:58] <tdik> i got an error - subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 (Setting up kdepimlibs-data)
[19:59] <James147> tdik: what command are you trying to run?
[19:59] <dane> i have two 256mb RAM cards equaling 512mb and its only reading one card but it say i have two connected
[19:59] <tdik> apt-get update
[20:01] <tdik> James147: just trying to update the system with the last KDE ... "apt-get update"
[20:01] <dr_bro> BluesKaj; James147:  thanks :-D
[20:01] <James147> dane: do both cards work indpendently?
[20:01] <tdik> James147: I've forced the installation with dpkg, kdepimlibs-data still has an error
[20:02] <James147> tdik: dpgk --configure --pending   dosent work then?
[20:04] <dane> how could i find out if they work independantly?
[20:04] <James147> dane: remove one test it, replace and remove the other
[20:05] <James147> dane: to make sure one card isent faulty
[20:05] <dane> okay then they work together, ive tried it before
[20:05] <tdik> James147: no, it does the same
[20:07] <James147> tdik: have you tryed removing kdepimlibs?
[20:09] <tdik> James147: how to do that without removing the whole KDE ? dpkg flags ?
[20:09] <dane> bump...RAM cards
[20:10] <James147> tdik: or try reinstalling it
[20:12] <James147> dane: it is mostlikly a problem with the cards or bios if there not working, I would test them both indivdually and test them in various combantaion of slots in your comp
[20:13] <tdn> Sometimes the sound just stops working. It shows an error with pulseaudio, but I cannot read it before it disappeares. How do I fix this? It is annoying that I have to reboot to get sound.
[20:13] <tdn> Using 9.04.
[20:14] <dane> how do i configure bios in linux?
[20:15] <tdik> James147: not sure what you mean. I don't know how to reinstall a single package and don't want to reinstall everything ...
[20:15] <James147> dane: you dont, you reboot and the first screen that displays hit DEL F2 or some other key to get in to it (it usualy says somewhere)
[20:16] <James147> tdik: sudo aptitufe reinstall PACKAGE
[20:16] <James147> aptitude
[20:16] <tdn> How do I troubleshoot pulseaudio?
[20:18] <dane> ok i will try that brb
[20:19] <tdn> Sound stopped working, how do I fix this?
[20:19] <tdn> Using Kubuntu 9.04. Please help.
[20:19] <tdn> !pulseaudio
[20:19] <tdik> James147: i've tried all ... That't the last error - as I said: Exec format error; subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[20:21] <klm_> hi all, I have problem with bt mouse, every time I reboot system mouse settings are set to default and I must set it again. Plz help
[20:22] <klm_> Kubuntu 9.04 lenovo t400s lenovo bt lasermouse
[20:23] <klm_> Kubuntu 9.04 64bit...
[20:23] <James147> tdik: you could try http://www.khattam.info/2009/08/04/solved-subprocess-pre-removal-script-returned-error-exit-status-2-error/
[20:37] <tdik> James147: it looks nice ... I'll try it later ...
[20:37] <James147> tdik: kk
[20:44] <Guest50808> ok i'm stumped. new installation of kubuntu on intel computer worked fine at first, set up samba, and ktorrent. told ktorrent to start on startup. updated kubuntu, then when i start the pc ktorrent says files are missing which i would assume is becuase it's set to save one a mounted hard drive that i have to enter a password for. so i log in to the main kubuntu logon screen it gives those errors and then xorg doesn't start all i see
[20:44] <Guest50808> is the logon splash. it also does this after i disabled ktorrent on startup. any suggestions? please and thank you
[20:46] <skreech> by intel PC you mean
[20:46] <skreech> intel graphics card?
[20:47] <Guest50808> no, it is a nvidia graphics card, intel core2 duo CPU
[20:49] <James147> Guest50808:So you are sent to command prompt when you turn on the computer?
[20:49] <endimion> hello there.... I guess you are used tohavethat question... I have a prob with the bcm43xx firmware
[20:50] <endimion> went around wikis doc forum etc..... nothing cameout... with any method using b43-fwcutter
[20:50] <Guest50808> no, the konsole does not show up, it just shows a gray screen
[20:51] <Guest50808> it shows the logon splash screen
[20:51] <endimion> when i go sys>hardware drivers idohave the b43thingy but can't activate itapparently
[20:51] <James147> Guest50808: suggests xorg is still working
[20:52] <skreech> Guest50808: Did you update to kde 4.3?
[20:53] <Guest50808> yes, we updated everything to the new, that was before it started to do this
[20:53] <endimion> when i try with the bash the connection times out with the location of the file
[20:53] <skreech> Guest50808: Ah ok try a dist-upgrade
[20:53] <Guest50808> we are using the 9.04 kubuntu
[20:53] <Guest50808> isnt that the newest
[20:54] <James147> Guest50808: At the moment yes, but it dosent use kde 4.3 by default
[20:54] <James147> Guest50808: have you upgraded to use kde4.3?
[20:54] <Guest50808> ok, so you suggest that i degrade to 4.2
[20:55] <James147> Guest50808: not yet, just trying to figure out what version you are useing
[20:55] <Guest50808> i have 2 other computers running 4.3 perfectly fine
[20:55] <Guest50808> i also should mention it is a 64 bit OS
[20:58] <James147> Guest50808: So from what i understand when you try to login it gets stuck at the splash screen rihgt?
[20:59] <endimion> so nobody has a clue like me??? well i'll keep searching or switch back to another distro if idon't find a solution i guess :s damn broadcom
[21:00] <tdik> James147: strange error but it seems to work :-) 10x !!!
[21:00] <James147> tdik:gg
[21:01] <BluesKaj> !cloak
[21:05] <endimion> pfff thisis crazy
[21:07] <njathan> is there a tui network config utility for kubuntu? The irregularity in network config utility here is driving me nuts. Have tried wicd too... but to no avail :-(
[21:09] <endimion> when i use the hardware drivers app i get that "Sorry, the Jockey backend crashed. Please file a bug at:
[21:09] <endimion>    ubuntu-bug jockey-common
[21:09] <endimion>  Trying to recover by restarting backend.
[21:10] <endimion> and wheni use sudo /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh i get a timeout onthe website source
[21:11] <frederick> hey there
[21:19] <endimion> so out of 284 users no one has more clues than me.... that's reinsuring but not helping :D
[21:22] <skreech> endimion: Hmm?
[21:23] <skreech> endimion: which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[21:23] <kaddi> am I the only having trouble to connect to archive.ubuntu.com?
[21:23] <endimion> jaunty 9.04
[21:24] <der_martin> hi james147, I'm back :)
[21:24] <James147> der_martin: hi
[21:24] <der_martin> remember my problem with alsa audio ?
[21:24] <James147> kaddi: i can access it fine
[21:24] <endimion> but b43-fwcutter is working it's just the source where he fetches for the firmware timesout
[21:24] <der_martin> seems to be an kde-problem
[21:25] <der_martin> when I do an alsa force-reload, my soundcard works perfectly, BUT pulseaudio doesn't !
[21:25] <endimion> Connecting to downloads.openwrt.org|195.56.146.238|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[21:25] <endimion> sorry
[21:25] <endimion> forthedouble
[21:25] <skreech> endimion: can You ping the site manually?
[21:26] <der_martin> and when I reboot KDE forgets about my soundcard, telling me, that the devices were removed!
[21:26] <James147> der_martin: System Settings > Multimedia    do you have more then one card listed?
[21:26] <der_martin> James147: that's what i said just before :)
[21:26] <kaddi> kk
[21:26] <skreech> endimion: it's possible you just cannot reach it
[21:27] <der_martin> James147: when I test my soundcard after alsa force-reload (it's listed), it works perfectly for this soundcard, pulseaudio doesn't!
[21:27] <James147> der_martin: is pulseaudio listed second in systemsettings?
[21:27] <der_martin> even if i move pulseaudio to the second place and my soundcard to first, doesn't change a bit
[21:28] <James147> hmm
[21:28] <der_martin> if I "test" my card, i hear the sound
[21:28] <der_martin> if I "test'" pulseaudio: no sound
[21:28] <der_martin> and here comes the best:
[21:28] <dodecanese> i hear the echo of silence
[21:28] <dodecanese> who needs pulse?
[21:28] <der_martin> when i reboot kde tells me that all my soundcard devices were removed and I'm back do digital1 only and still no sound
[21:29] <der_martin> dodecanese: you're right!!! :-P
[21:29] <der_martin> but i can't remove it from kde
[21:29] <der_martin> it would uninstall almost half of the system
[21:29] <der_martin> that sucks
[21:29] <dodecanese> _/usr/sbin/alsactl restore
[21:30] <endimion> 64 bytes from openwrt.org (195.56.146.238): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=54.6 ms
[21:30] <der_martin> James147: any ideas ?
[21:30] <James147> der_martin: not sure sorry
[21:31] <der_martin> James147: I've read about a known bug since last year concerning alsa and alc888, but it doesn't seem to be resolved until now
[21:31] <der_martin> ...sucks
[21:31] <der_martin> ;)
[21:32] <FloodBotK2> der_martin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <der_martin> In kubuntu 9.04 when I started my computer for the first time, I always had to reboot to get my soundcard working, didn't work on the first boot
[21:34] <endimion> so skreech any ideas ?
[21:35] <njathan> why does my loopback does not have an IP address?!!!
[21:37] <adhemar50> iniciante
[21:37] <adhemar50> boa tarde a todos
[21:38] <njathan> which is the best distro for laptops?
[21:40] <carpii_> that question doesnt really make any sense
[21:42] <njathan> carpii_: i might have agreed with you yesterday.... but my network configuration problem in Kubuntu is pissing me off!!
[21:42] <endimion> me too
[21:42] <endimion> lol
[21:46] <spacelime> Hi
[21:46] <kaddi> hi
[21:46] <James147> hi
[21:47] <spacelime> I'm about to install kubuntu.......... but I'm considering between jaunty and karmic... i heard there are lots of improvements in karmic.. but it's still in alpha, so i'm not sure. what's your advice?
[21:47] <skreech> endimion: try grabbing the source yourself then
[21:48] <James147> spacelime: only install karmic if you dont mind frequent brackages or things notworking at all.
[21:49] <James147> spacelime: if you need a stable enviroment use jaunty
[21:49] <spacelime> ok! do you know when the first beta is expected?
[21:49] <James147> spacelime: you can always test them both and see which you like more (and if you can stand it breaking)
[21:50] <raphink_> spacelime: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[21:50] <raphink_> spacelime: don't use karmic unless you're used to fixing Debian/Ubuntu systems
[21:50] <spacelime> thank you!
[21:51] <spacelime> no, I can't say I'm used to that =) although I'm a bit tempted to get my hands dirty
[21:52] <James147> spacelime: if you want to test it you can install it along side jaunty, then you can play about with karmic but always have a stable system to fall back to
[21:52] <yukan> spacelime: is it a laptop or desktop
[21:53] <James147> spacelime: I suggest a seprate partition for /home either way, makes reinstalling the system alot less painful :)
[21:53] <endimion> oki'm gonna reboot and try again
[21:53] <spacelime> actually I'm looking for a nice community to start getting a little involved.... I'm leaning towards Kubuntu as I like the innovative approach of KDE and also like Canonical and their Linux visions... but I'm also considering openSUSE because it seems to have the biggest KDE user base?
[21:53] <spacelime> James147: good idea!
[21:54] <carpii_> depends, do you want to help improve a distro, or a WM ?
[21:54] <carpii_> id say KDE is most in need of good devs
[21:55] <spacelime> carpii_: don't really know... I used to do some game programming like 10 years ago but lost the spark.... now I'm inspired by the whole free software community vibe and just want to get involved in something i guess
[21:56] <carpii_> well if you want my opinion, the problem with KDE is that the devs concentrate on 'cool' stuff, and neglect basic usability
[21:56] <carpii_> so it depends what sort of dev excites you
[21:56] <James147> spacelime: well helping kde will in turn help out kubuntu and other ditros that use kde :)
[21:56] <carpii_> but KDE really needs bread and butter devs which just make the whole thing work
[21:56] <carpii_> cos atm, KDE 4.x is a bit of a mess imo
[21:57] <spacelime> carpii_: i totally agree with that
[21:57] <LuisJa> Hello, i already clicked to make 3 filter for my 3 usb devices for my windows xp guest to use them, but i am still not able to use them, what i can do?
[21:58] <spacelime> carpii_: however, i also feel that KDE has a promising base.. it's just too scattered atm, but that should become better i think
[21:58] <LuisJa> Hello, i already clicked to make 3 filter for my 3 usb devices for my windows xp guest to use them, but i am still not able to use them, what i can do?
[21:58] <carpii_> yeah i think its promising too
[21:58] <carpii_> just not 'ready'
[21:58] <spacelime> carpii_: true... and that's one reason I feel I'de like to get involved =)
[21:59] <carpii_> welp, best way to get involved is simply to start poring over the source
[22:00] <carpii_> get familiar with bits of it, and find something to improve :)
[22:00] <LuisJa> Hello, i already clicked to make 3 filter for my 3 usb devices for my windows xp guest to use them, but i am still not able to use them, what i can do?
[22:01] <James147> LuisJa: Dont under stand what you are trying to do
[22:01] <LuisJa> okay
[22:01] <LuisJa> mmm...
[22:01] <spacelime> carpii_: anyway... my only concern... and I guess it's perhaps an unnecessery concern... is that I want to find a community of developers with the right "vibe" so to speak.... i guess the best way to find out is to communicate on forums and stuff....
[22:02] <LuisJa> i wanna use a usb memory, my cellphone and my webcam (than comes integrated in the laptop i am using) James147, i clicked to get filters for the 3 devices, but when i turn off the virtual machine, i am still not able to use my usb devices (the webcam comes integrated but it seems in some way is connected to the laptop by usb), is there a way to fix that?
[22:03] <carpii_> yeah i think so too spacelime
[22:03] <LuisJa> when i turn on*
[22:03] <spacelime> carpii_: i feel some camps are a little too hardcore.... they seem to want to keep linux a "by hackers for hackers" thing.... and others just want "cool" things to show off... myself i want a very user friendly and creative inspiring envirnment
[22:03] <carpii_> irc is not the greatest medium for serious collaboration, unless its a small custom channel
[22:04] <spacelime> right..
[22:05] <spacelime> carpii_: do you mind me asking what brought you to kubuntu? =)
[22:05] <endimion> with b43 integration :D lol
[22:05] <carpii_> i was fed up of windows, and i do a lot of server admin. I wanted a linux distro and tried ubuntu but didnt like gnome.
[22:05] <carpii_> so i guess i just settled with kubuntu
[22:06] <James147> LuisJa: which vm software are you useing?
[22:06] <LuisJa> registered version
[22:07] <der_martin> hi James147
[22:07] <James147> der_martin: Hello :)
[22:07] <der_martin> James147: I've got one solution :
[22:08] <der_martin> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, some packages were uninstalled and suddenly sound worked without any problem
[22:08] <rmrfslash> I'm noticing Kubuntu is consuming 22% or more memory. This doesn't seem right. Is this normal?
[22:08] <spacelime> carpii_: cool.... you havn't tried out openSuse by chance?
[22:08] <carpii_> nop, i run fedora on some vm's, and red hat on my servers
[22:08] <carpii_> ive not really had a reason to try diff distros tbh
[22:08] <der_martin> this seems to be a bug, because one using kubuntu shouldn't be forced to install ubuntu extras ;)
[22:08] <endimion> pfff i hate when something doesn't work 20 times in a row and the 21st one it does and you did absolutely exactly the same.... this is so MSlike
[22:09] <rmrfslash> When I reboot the machine, Xorg process consumes 2-3% of memory. But when I leave the machine on for a while, it climbs to 22% or more.... I can't tell exactly what is causing it to climb though.
[22:09] <endimion> well at least it seemsto work
[22:09] <der_martin> James147: just wanted to tell...off for today, cya & thx for your help! :)
[22:09] <spacelime> ok... I guess i'll go for kubuntu and see if I like it to start
[22:09] <James147> der_martin no problem cya
[22:10] <endimion> i just switch fromopensuse to kubuntu
[22:10] <spacelime> endimion: ok! what made you switch?
[22:11] <LuisJa> James147: so?
[22:11] <James147> spacelime: tryed opensuse a couple times, never really liked it though, the whole yast thing seem like a good idea, but i hated how you couldent manually edit config files without yast distroying them :(
[22:11] <endimion> wanted to try... I personally prefer opensuse.... but some stuff work better with kubuntu.... the ideal would be a mix between both
[22:11] <James147> LuisJa: Dont really know, if its a virtual mechine issue you might want to ask on forums of the vm in question
[22:12] <LuisJa> dammit... well thx anyway
[22:12] <endimion> see me i prefer YaST for instance.... but i thinkfor old config kubuntu runs smoother
[22:12] <eMyller> upgrade lascou minha interface gráfica :'(
[22:13] <eMyller> ops, wrong chan
[22:13] <spacelime> James147: i see.... I'm very new to KDE altoghether.... what to you think about the communites? any difference between the approach of kubuntu and opensuse... tough question i guess. don't know how to formulate it better =)
[22:13] <endimion> try kubuntu first andin acouple month when the new suse is out do a dual boot to try it
[22:13] <eMyller> trans: latest upgrade broken my graphic interface :'(
[22:14] <eMyller> i really need help; just upgraded kdebase-workspace-bin to newest version, but it's broken
[22:14] <spacelime> endimion: ok.... will do that.
[22:14] <endimion> well for the communites iprefer also the opensuse wiki and forum layout and way/speed ofprocessinginfo...but they both about as rich
[22:14] <eMyller> and i can't return to previous version
[22:14] <eMyller> what can i do?
[22:14] <James147> spacelime: dont know much about opensuse's communite, switched back to kubunu after yast anoyed me
[22:14] <endimion> are about as rich imo
[22:15] <spacelime> allright!
[22:15] <eMyller> ping
[22:15] <spacelime> thanks for your tips
[22:16] <endimion> try both live CDs that's alsoa solution
[22:16] <James147> eMyller: did the upgrade complete sucessfully?
[22:16] <eMyller> James147: no, the package i said is not configured
[22:17] <James147> eMyller: from commandline run "sudo dpgk --configure --pending"
[22:17] <eMyller> James147: "dpkg: error processing bla bla bla"
[22:17] <James147> dpkg sorry
[22:18] <eMyller> "trying to overwrite <file>, which is also in package kdebase-workspace-data"
[22:18] <spacelime> by the way..... i'm struggling with a tough problem atm.. maybe somebody could help me: I've got several .tgz archives that have corrupt files in them... i tried gzrecover and it generated a tar file..... however when i run tar xvf on that one it still halts at the corrupted file
[22:19] <eMyller> all the output is in the other pc (mine)
[22:19] <James147> eMyller: what was the outpput of "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"?
[22:19] <James147> pastbin it please :)
[22:19] <eMyller> James147: no output.
[22:20] <eMyller> James147: can't, i'm in a tty
[22:20] <eMyller> James147: i'm talking to you in a neighbor pc
[22:21] <eMyller> wait. i made a > file
[22:21] <eMyller> will try to send you.
[22:22] <eMyller> brb
[22:29] <eMyller> James147: http://emyller.net/output
[22:29] <eMyller> can't install kdebase-workspace-bin :/
[22:30] <James147> eMyller: you could try renaming /usr/share/kde4/services/kcm_keyboard.desktop  and running the command again
[22:31] <eMyller> James147: already did it
[22:31] <eMyller> it seems the checking is made in the package file list, not in the installed file itself
[22:33] <James147> only other thing i can think of then is to clean the cache (sudo aptitude clean) and redownload the .deb (sudo aptitude install -f)
[22:33] <James147> make sure you ahve a network connect before you do though :)
[22:33] <eMyller> James147: i already did that too :'O
[22:34] <eMyller> :(
[22:34] <eMyller> maybe the repo guys will fix it?
[22:34] <eMyller> i'm afraid the problem is in my pc
[22:34] <eMyller> dunno
[22:35] <James147> or attempting to purge and reinstall it
[22:37] <eMyller> James147: any other option? it seems that i did exactly what you'd do
[22:37] <James147> not sure what else you can do sorry
[22:37] <eMyller> :(
[22:38] <eMyller> i think i'll wait for an update
[22:38] <eMyller> James147: you on kde4.3?
[22:38] <James147> eMyller: i am
[22:39] <James147> eMyller: its installed fine every time I have tryed
[22:39] <eMyller> James147: did you installed successfully this version? http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/kdebase-workspace-bin
[22:41] <eMyller> could you send me kdebase-workspace-bin and kdebase-workspace-data, versions 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu12 if you have?
[22:41] <ubuntu> stefg hello
[22:42] <ubuntu> stefg not sure if I've come back on same channel (one I was just on in Vista).
[22:42] <James147> eMyller: 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5   - but i am on amd64
[22:42] <James147> have installed it on 32bit computers before though
[22:43] <James147> eMyller: sorry, dont have acess to 32bit versions of it
[22:50] <emyller> James147: this shouldnt be possible: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kcm_keyboard.desktop&suite=karmic
[22:50] <emyller> -bin depends on -data, but both have the same file :(
[22:51] <James147> try reinstalling both...
[22:53] <dodecanese> my cat is talking something weird
[22:53] <dodecanese> i still wait for the 128bit OS
[22:59] <FullMetalJocker> hi all
[22:59] <James147> hi
[23:00] <FullMetalJocker> i have a ltl question about kplayer
[23:00] <James147> just ask :)
[23:01] <FullMetalJocker> i have a .pls file with the 3 italian public broadcast radio station
[23:01] <FullMetalJocker> so
[23:01] <FullMetalJocker> when i load it
[23:02] <FullMetalJocker> kplayer read radiouno
[23:02] <FullMetalJocker> but I still didn't understand how to switch to the next 2 urls
[23:03] <FullMetalJocker> with mplayer no probs
[23:03] <FullMetalJocker> ??
[23:03] <FullMetalJocker> didn't find a button or a shortcut to do so..
[23:04] <FullMetalJocker> that's my question
[23:06] <FullMetalJocker> james?
[23:06] <James147> Sorry, dont know
[23:07] <FullMetalJocker> :-(
[23:07] <FullMetalJocker> ;-)
[23:07] <FullMetalJocker> so i google a bit this
[23:08] <FullMetalJocker> ciao james
[23:17] <NlinuxUsr> hello everybody
[23:17] <James147> hi
[23:17] <NlinuxUsr> hi James147 how are you
[23:18] <James147> NlinuxUsr: Im alright, you need help with anything?
[23:18] <NlinuxUsr> not help but question
[23:18] <James147> Ask away
[23:19] <NlinuxUsr> what do you think about kylix
[23:20] <NlinuxUsr> and which is better kylix or lazarus
[23:20] <James147> Sorry, dont know anything about them
[23:20] <NlinuxUsr> because i have project
[23:21] <NlinuxUsr> and i want to do it on linux and in our school we use only fu*** Microsoft Windows
[23:21] <NlinuxUsr> i don't like it
[23:22] <kaddi> how do I remove a program I compiled and installed myself? apt-get doesn't see it.
[23:22] <NlinuxUsr> thank you so much jams
[23:22] <NlinuxUsr> try with apt-get remove
[23:23] <James147> kaddi: from where you ran make install run make uninstall
[23:23] <James147> kaddi: if you removed the source just recompile and install, then uninstall :)
[23:25] <kaddi> James147: everything is still there, I was checking out the new kaffeine pre-release... and somehow this broke things :/
[23:25] <kaddi> kaffeine ran fine, but it's missing some features I really liked in the old version, which is why I want to get back to the old one
[23:27] <James147> kaddi: what was the output from sudo make uninstall?
[23:27] <kaddi> James147: I did make uninstall and now the command "kaffeine" doesn't start anything anymore. I tried reinstalling the default kaffeine from repository, but that hasn't helped
[23:28] <kaddi> James147: http://pastebin.com/d254a1fbe
[23:28] <James147> kaddi: have you tryed purging with apt-get or aptitude?
[23:28] <fabio> Hi my friends !!
[23:29] <James147> kaddi: the output looks like it uninstalled everything ok
[23:29] <James147> fabio: Hello
[23:30] <kaddi> James147: I have, but now when i type kaffeine into konsole, all it does is say: bash: /usr/local/bin/kaffeine: No such file or directory
[23:30] <James147> kaddi: whats the output of sudo aptitude install kaffeine?
[23:31] <J2daosh> i cant get my wired connection working
[23:31] <BluesKaj> kaddi or apt-cache policy kaffeine
[23:32] <J2daosh> how can i get it working? i have checked the interfaces file and it looks ok, didn an ifup eth0, but it doesn't get any offers
[23:32] <J2daosh> how do i make it accept offered?
[23:32] <J2daosh> offers
[23:32] <kubuntu2> hello room, I have a dualboot xp hardy pc, after messing w/the hd I found out I have to reinstall xp, my question is after installing xp again if I repartition its space will that change my linux and xp's partition name and cause problems?
[23:33] <kaddi> James147: http://pastebin.com/d14ba3fd0 install went fine from what I can tell, apt-cache says version 0.8.7 is installed
[23:33] <kaddi> BluesKaj: ^ as well.
[23:36] <James147> kaddi: Hmm, not sure what you can do, might try uninstalling it again and clearing package caches
[23:36] <BluesKaj> kubuntu2, are you sure you need to reinstall xp , check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:37] <kaddi> BluesKaj, James147  I just noticed it is working fine when I use the startmenu entry.. the problem seems to be with the konsole only. (start menu entry starts it with kaffeine %u so the command should be fine)
[23:38] <BluesKaj> kubuntu2, you may need to enable windows in grub menu and maybe even the timeout which sometimes gets set to 0secs
[23:38] <James147> kaddi: wierd, usually its the other way around :S
[23:38] <kaddi> BluesKaj, James147 ok, I restarted konsole and now it's working.. funny though
[23:40] <James147> kubuntu2: reinstalling xp will overwrite the mbr so you will have to boot a live cd after to fix that, but there shouldent be any major problems with repartitions the xp part
[23:40] <kubuntu2> BluesKaj: it's in the grub menu but when I choose xp it starts in recovery mode that's why I ask
[23:41] <BluesKaj> kubuntu2, can you pastebin your grub menu.lst
[23:41] <kubuntu2> sure
[23:43] <J2daosh> how do i change from IPv6 to IPv4?
[23:44] <BluesKaj> !IPv6
[23:44] <J2daosh> i dont want IPv6, i need IPv4
[23:44] <J2daosh> my wired connection isn't giving me an IPv4 address and i cant connect to the intenet because of it
[23:45] <BluesKaj> To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[23:45] <kubuntu2> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/d40913002
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> J2daosh- that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with IPv6. You might not be connected to your network at all
[23:46] <kubuntu2> james147: ok cool I'm planning on using sgd to restore grub
[23:47] <J2daosh> it looks like it is, but all i get is an IPv6 address
[23:47] <Dragnslcr> It's probably just giving itself a default IPv6 address. I see it quite a bit
[23:48] <Dragnslcr> You can pastebin your interfaces file and the output of ifconfig and see if someone can help
[23:48] <J2daosh> yeah i need to stop that. im going through a tutorial right now
[23:48] <BluesKaj> kubuntu2, does windows drop to the C prompt when you try to boot it?
[23:50] <kubuntu2> BluesKaj: it just goes straight to recovery stating if I want a safe recovery or fresh install (not the exact words but something like that)
[23:54] <kaddi> kubuntu2: do you have 2 entries for XP in your grub menu? Do both lead to recovery?
[23:56] <kubuntu2> I have windows xp home and windows xp safe/recovery
[23:57] <kaddi> and neither boots normal xp?
[23:57] <kubuntu2> kaddi: nope it takes me to recover my system, so I have no choice
[23:58] <kaddi> kubuntu2: can you boot into kubuntu? do you see the windows partition from there?