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| mrooney | If I am on a team which is subscribed to all bugs in a project, is there a way to opt out of that on an individual level? | 05:41 |
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| wgrant | mrooney: Apart from filtering at your end, there is not. | 05:43 |
| wgrant | I consider this a bug that is tempting to fix. | 05:43 |
| wgrant | I think you should be able to opt-out individually at both a project and bug level. | 05:44 |
| mrooney | wgrant: yes, both of those would be useful | 05:44 |
| mrooney | the former being more immediately useful | 05:45 |
| wgrant | Right. | 05:45 |
| mrooney | subscriptions ARE a little wonky, since commenting on a bug asks if you want to subscribe, even if you are already implicitly subscribed, which is confusing. Yet I suspect it has meaning in that if I do that, and then leave the team, I'll still get mail. | 05:48 |
| wgrant | Right. | 05:48 |
| wgrant | There's a bug about that confusion. | 05:49 |
| wgrant | But that confusion is gone on edge, as the checkbox is absent. | 05:49 |
| wgrant | I'm getting occasional 502s from edge. | 09:19 |
| wgrant | Sometimes more often than not. | 09:19 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Is "edge" undergoing maintenance ? | 09:29 |
| wgrant | IntuitiveNipple: It was probably upgraded in the last hour or so, and seems to be partly dead :/ | 09:29 |
| wgrant | It has had problems upgrading the past couple of times, but not quite like this. | 09:30 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ah-hah! I thought it might be my fault :) | 09:32 |
| wgrant | edge isn't quite that fragile. | 09:32 |
| IntuitiveNipple | hmmm! I have one of those anti-technology auras - if something can go wrong, it will when I'm near it :p | 09:33 |
| benji_ | Hello everyone. Can anyone help me to check this: if you save a suggestion for a translation in a Launchpad project, there isn't a way to edit it afterward, is it? | 10:25 |
| lifeless | sure you can, just find it and change it | 10:26 |
| benji_ | Mmm... I see the list of suggestions, among them there is the one I want to edit, but I only see a "Copy text" button near it. | 10:28 |
| wgrant | IIRC you can't edit suggestions. | 10:30 |
| wgrant | But it has been a while since I last looked at Translations... | 10:30 |
| benji_ | wgrant: so it seems to me too. I wanted to check here before giving up. | 10:34 |
| benji_ | Thank you and bye everybody. | 11:09 |
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| markjones | hi, ianto sent me here as i am to take over the running of the Welsh Translation team, and to become the future admin, should a decision be made | 11:47 |
| wgrant | markjones: You might have better luck asking during the week. | 11:48 |
| markjones | wgrant: thanks | 11:49 |
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| Ursinha | hm | 12:41 |
| Ursinha | edge is acting up | 12:42 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: Yes. Has been since around the restart that probably happened four hours ago. | 12:44 |
| Ursinha | argh | 12:45 |
| wgrant | s/restart/update/ | 12:45 |
| Ursinha | wgrant, ah | 12:45 |
| Ursinha | wgrant, a cherrypick? | 12:45 |
| * Ursinha checks emails | 12:45 | |
| wgrant | Ursinha: no. Isn't there a normal update around then? | 12:45 |
| * wgrant isn't sure these days. | 12:46 | |
| Ursinha | wgrant, what kind of update are you talking about? the regular code merge? | 12:46 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: Yes. | 12:46 |
| wgrant | Anyway, the problems started a little under four hours ago. | 12:46 |
| Ursinha | wgrant, last landed revision was 9209 | 12:49 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: That looks like it landed on stable around 7 hours ago, although I can't say for sure as buildbot is sekrit. | 12:49 |
| Ursinha | a simple js change, what doesn't make much sense | 12:50 |
| wgrant | So it probably did update around the time things died. | 12:50 |
| Ursinha | hm | 12:50 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: Some appservers have failed to restart during the upgrade in the past week. | 12:50 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: On at least two occasions, at least one appserver failed to shut down. | 12:50 |
| Ursinha | so maybe we have a dead server | 12:51 |
| wgrant | Right. | 12:51 |
| Ursinha | I'd have to ask a losa | 12:51 |
| wgrant | lpstats os often useful for that. | 12:51 |
| wgrant | s/os/is/ | 12:51 |
| geser | how many app servers does edge use? because I seem to hit the broken one pretty often | 12:57 |
| wgrant | 4, IIRC. | 12:57 |
| wgrant | Aha. So they're physically shared with the lpnet servers. 2 lpnets and 1 edge on each of the 4. I see. | 13:00 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Is there a way to delete a PPA when no longer required? | 13:04 |
| maxb | No (unless it never had any packages in it at all at any point in time) | 13:04 |
| maxb | It can be made invisible to anyone but the owner though | 13:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I was trying to figure out how to make it invisible, but can't see any obvious option to do so | 13:09 |
| wgrant | IntuitiveNipple: It's an admin option. | 13:10 |
| Ursinha | IntuitiveNipple, you have to open a question requiring an admin to do that for you | 13:10 |
| Ursinha | s/requiring/asking/ | 13:11 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Ahhh... that would explain it :) | 13:11 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Thanks guys | 13:11 |
| Ursinha | IntuitiveNipple, np :) | 13:11 |
| gnomefreak | anyone else timing out on launchpad? its doing it with every page | 13:15 |
| Ursinha | gnomefreak, timing out or the "try again" page? | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | Ursinha: try again (sorry just woke up a little while ago | 13:16 |
| Ursinha | gnomefreak, I`m getting those as well, wgrant reported it's happening for at least 7 hours now | 13:17 |
| Ursinha | don't know the reason though | 13:17 |
| gnomefreak | ok thanks | 13:18 |
| * wgrant kicks edge4 a few times. | 13:29 | |
| wgrant | Everything else is slow, but I wonder if that's because pound is filling up with hung requests to edge4. | 13:29 |
| gnomefreak | im not seeing the disable edge button | 13:48 |
| geser | gnomefreak: use https://launchpad.net/ to see it | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | ok thats bad: you cant use edge.luanchpad... to disable it | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | geser: have to remove the edge part of url but it should be with the edge link | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | https://launchpad.net should be https://edge.launchpad.net just to make sense | 13:51 |
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| _Andrew | When I update a package in my ppa that other depends upon why doesn't the other package get rebuilt to use the updated package? | 15:34 |
| maxb | _Andrew: because that's not how PPAs (or the Ubuntu archive, or the Debian archive, or any other distro of vaguely similar form's archive that I know of) work | 15:48 |
| _Andrew | So I need to re upload the packages even though I haven't changed anything to get them to rebuild using the new dependencies? | 15:49 |
| maxb | Indeed. | 15:49 |
| _Andrew | ok thanks | 15:49 |
| maxb | Assuming they *actually* need to be rebuilt | 15:49 |
| maxb | Which is not always the case, which is why it's not automatic | 15:50 |
| _Andrew | I wish that was the case but someone stupidly put the version number in this package name | 15:53 |
| _Andrew | So everytime I update the package version the name changes.. | 15:53 |
| _Andrew | I need to change that really.. | 15:53 |
| * maxb wonders how wgrant can deduce precisely which appserver is the slow one :-) | 15:54 | |
| * maxb can't see anything in https://edge.launchpad.net/~andrewfenn/+archive/ogredev with a version in its name | 15:56 | |
| mok0 | Man, launchpad is completely unusable today | 16:03 |
| mok0 | Something is seriously wrong with the server | 16:04 |
| statik | i keep getting intermittent 502 bad gateway errors from xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/ when trying to merge or push bzr branches | 16:07 |
| geser | statik: one of the edge app servers has a bad day today (since the last edge roll-out) | 16:36 |
| MTeck | D: | 16:44 |
| MTeck | downtime :( | 16:44 |
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| * kfogel is away: packing up laptop to go to onShore. again. | 20:20 | |
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| wgrant | maxb: OOPS is a few times and see which letters are missing. | 22:12 |
| wgrant | s/is/it/ | 22:12 |
| maxb | devious :-) | 22:13 |
| thumper | ?? | 22:21 |
| maxb | * maxb wonders how wgrant can deduce precisely which appserver is the slow one :-) | 22:22 |
| thumper | maxb: the server number is part of the oops id | 22:23 |
| andresmujica | hi, with launchpadlib i can get the LP login with bug_task.bug.owner.name where bug_task = launchpad.load(URL) how can i get the real name? | 22:35 |
| thumper | bug_task.bug.owner.displayname | 22:36 |
| andresmujica | thks | 22:36 |
| daishadar | i'm trying to learn how to build my ppa package for multiple distributions. i'm using pbuilder-dist to build the same source for both jaunty and karmic. do i need to have separate changelogs for my source for each dist when i upload to launchpad (so it knows what distribution to use)? | 22:37 |
| daishadar | and is there some conventional way to manage that without copying over the source for each distro? | 22:37 |
| * thumper wonders if it is displayname or display_name | 22:38 | |
| thumper | andresmujica: display_name | 22:39 |
| andresmujica | display_name ... testing right now | 22:39 |
| andresmujica | it failed with the first... :) where can i find documentation about that kind of stuff? i mean all the objects loaded by launchpad.load ? | 22:40 |
| wgrant | andresmujica: https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc | 22:42 |
| wgrant | I'm surprised you got very far without it. | 22:42 |
| andresmujica | i was using already developed scripts as a base, but now i really need it.. thks | 22:44 |
| thumper | morning wgrant | 22:50 |
| wgrant | Morning thumper. | 22:51 |
| geser | maxb: it would be even better if wgrant would know a way to work around the slow one | 22:55 |
| geser | are the OOPS tracebacks still private? | 23:07 |
| wgrant | geser: Yes. | 23:15 |
| wgrant | Although I don't see why. | 23:15 |
| wgrant | lazr.restful has always given the exception message (except in 500s; it says they might contain sensitive info) | 23:16 |
| geser | that would be my next question :) as LP is now open-source | 23:16 |
| wgrant | It's possible that private object information could be revealed. | 23:17 |
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| wgrant | Particularly now there are private teams, even the existence of which is meant to be secret (but isn't really). | 23:17 |
| geser | but the OOPS could be made public to the one who caused it (LP knows who is currently logged-in) and the LP admins | 23:19 |
| wgrant | Even so. | 23:19 |
| wgrant | The traceback shouldn't -- but might -- contain privileged information. | 23:19 |
| wgrant | It's not too bad to have to poke a Canonical person to look at OOPSes, I don't think. | 23:24 |
| lifeless | geser: open source means the /code/ is open | 23:24 |
| lifeless | we'd have no concerns about the code being shown. But urls disclose database state, as do variable values | 23:24 |
| lifeless | and the Canonical run launchpad instances have data that various users consider private | 23:25 |
| wgrant | Security proxies should protect from leakage, even in tracebacks, but a lot of the security stuff is done manually. | 23:26 |
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| wgrant | (ew) | 23:26 |
| * geser enjoys the nice AJAX(?) loading when opening bug #230016 (once I got a working app server) | 23:29 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 230016 in xmms2 "[intrepid] Rebuild with perl 5.10" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230016 | 23:29 |
| * wgrant runs to uni. | 23:29 | |
| spm | given that some users get shirty about addresses in bug reports etc; any "unnecessary" info exposure should be avoided. my 2c based on dealing with LP users info. - independent of my professional/work viewpoint. | 23:30 |
| wgrant | geser: That's not AJAX; it's just broken, slow, synchronous JavaScript. | 23:30 |
| wgrant | Wow, that really is awful. | 23:31 |
| * wgrant vanishes. | 23:31 | |
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| geser | it's better to err to the safe side with private data | 23:34 |
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