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bdrung_stochastic: not yet. in four days is my motu application. :)00:06
bdrung_stochastic: which package?00:06
stochastichttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo00:07
stochasticI'm hoping to get it in before feature freeze00:07
bdrung_stochastic: you could wrap the Build-Depends00:09
bdrung_stochastic: how about using debhelper v7? this would shorten your debian/rules file.00:11
bdrung_stochastic: you could use this format for debian/copyright: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/00:11
bdrung_stochastic: here are some issues from lintian:00:13
bdrung_xjadeo: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/qjadeo/locale/qjadeo_fr.qm00:13
bdrung_xjadeo: copyright-refers-to-symlink-license usr/share/common-licenses/GPL00:13
bdrung_xjadeo: spelling-error-in-binary ./usr/bin/qjadeo environement environment00:13
bdrung_X: xjadeo: spelling-error-in-binary ./usr/bin/xjadeo extention extension00:13
bdrung_X: xjadeo: spelling-error-in-binary ./usr/bin/xjadeo extention extension00:13
bdrung_X: xjadeo: spelling-error-in-binary ./usr/bin/xjadeo splitted split00:13
bdrung_P: xjadeo: no-homepage-field00:13
stochasticbdrung_, hmm, issue #1 seems trivial at best, #2 I was told to use lower compat values to help backporting #3 is this necessary? I just reworked the copyright file other than the last00:26
stochasticlintian error I just fixed, but the others I have no idea how to fix00:27
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binarymutantwill pidgin 2.5.9 get synced before karmic's release?02:50
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highvoltagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rg3uNrI8tE07:35
stochasticwould any kind motu with a free minute be willing to look over http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo08:25
lfaraoneHey, would a10:00
lfaraonenew upstream version be accepted after FF if it was solely a bug fix release?10:01
geseryes10:01
iulianYes.10:01
lfaraoneCool, thanks.10:03
iulianlfaraone: You might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess.10:04
lfaraoneiulian: so I'd still need a FFE?10:06
wgrantlfaraone: It varies.10:10
wgrantIn the last two releases, IIRC, bugfix releases were exempt.10:10
wgrantBefore that they needed FFEs.10:10
wgrantI'm not sure that the policy has been announced for this release.10:11
iulianIf it's a bug fix only release you don't need an exception.10:11
iulianScroll down to "FeatureFreeze for bug fix only updates (process agreed by motu-release)".10:13
iulianlfaraone: ^10:13
LaneyDoes it have to be reconfirmed with each release?10:14
lfaraoneiulian: Thanks!10:18
brennion_I try to get openerp-server pkg working for karmic,but it needs python-xml, that has been deleted from repository... is there a way to properly install it from jaunty repo in the preinst file ? or is there another way ??11:14
binarymutantI keep getting patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff in lintain and I'm not sure why? here's my rules http://paste.ubuntu.com/258009/ any help would be appreciative :D11:35
DktrKranzbinarymutant: zcat *.diff.gz | lsdiff11:36
* hyperair uses diffstat.11:36
hyperairthat's the first time i've heard of lsdiff11:36
binarymutantDktrKranz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/258010/11:37
LaneyDktrKranz: rather lsdiff -z11:37
DktrKranzyou have changes to cap and capify files11:37
DktrKranzLaney: also ;)11:38
binarymutantstrange, so I should ignore that warning?11:38
Laneyno11:39
DktrKranzbinarymutant: look at the changes for those files11:39
Laneyfilterdiff -z -x "*debian*" **.diff.gz11:39
Laney* not **, of course11:40
binarymutantit looks reversed :/11:41
binarymutanthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/258013/11:42
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bdrungstochastic: using debhelper v7: it shorten the rules file enormously, but you are right. if you want to backport the package, you may have to backport debhelper v7, too.12:20
hyperairisn't it already backported?12:21
bdrungstochastic: it is not necessary to use dep5 for the copying file. i like the format and it will probably be the standard for debian and therefore ubuntu.12:22
bdrungstochastic: about wich lintian reports you do not know how to fix it?12:22
bdrunghyperair: i talked about xjadeo. this package is not in the archive at all.12:24
hyperairbdrung: i'm talking about debhelper already being backported all the way to hardy.12:25
bdrunghyperair: yes, it's backported to hardy. so this is not an issue any more.12:26
hyperairyeah12:27
ghostcubehmm, i have a question. what is causing my eth1 not to be started by default on my mainline kernel 2.6.30-5. i must restart interfaces manually. Is there anything that is done on the ubuntu patched kernels that is doing this automatically?13:12
ghostcubethe nameserver isnt set by resolvconf package13:12
ghostcubeat startup13:12
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hyperairghostcube: not that i know of. i've been compiling mainline kernels since 2.6.31 started, and have noticed nothing of that sort.13:26
hyperairghostcube: it should be brought up by networkmanager13:27
ghostcubehyperair, networkmanager cant handle eth here13:27
hyperairwhy can't it?13:27
ghostcubeit just doesnt connect13:27
hyperairwell do you have an auto eth1 line in /etc/network/interfaces then?13:27
ghostcubewait i show you :)13:27
hyperairokay13:27
hyperair(please pastebin it, don't paste here)13:28
ghostcubesure :)13:28
ghostcubehttp://pastie.org/59215413:28
ghostcubeso the prob is all is set only nameserver not from resolvconf package13:29
ghostcubei need to restart it manually to get the nameserver for eth113:29
ghostcubeand networkmanager never worked for me i always use this way13:29
hyperairhmm that's interesting, i have never actually set my dns address in interfaces before13:29
ghostcube:)13:30
hyperairis resolvconf starting when you boot?13:30
ghostcubei have kcpnc so i need to have resolvconf package for setting up the needed ones13:30
ghostcubeits in rc13:30
hyperairwhich rc13:30
ghostcubemoment pls13:30
ghostcube:|13:32
ghostcubeok now iam a bit worried13:33
ghostcubeits not anymore in rc13:33
ghostcubeoO13:33
ghostcubethat would explain why its not working so far or ?13:33
hyperairbingo.13:33
hyperairwait, no13:33
hyperairlemme just install it and see13:34
ghostcubei wait no prob in my rc is only networkmanager13:34
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hyperairhow do you usually get resolvconf up and running13:35
hyperair?13:35
hyperairit appears there's a script in /etc/network/if-up.d13:35
hyperairand if-down.d13:35
ghostcubeyeah i have 000resolvconf there13:36
ghostcubebut it doesnt do the trick13:36
hyperairwell, what do you usually do to get it running?13:36
hyperair/etc/init.d/networking restart?13:36
ghostcubei read it and it should create the eth1.inet into the resolvconf run interfaces folder13:36
ghostcubehyperair, yes13:36
ghostcubethis brings it up13:37
ghostcubei wrote a little script so not so much to type13:37
ghostcube:D13:37
* hyperair doesn't know =\13:37
ghostcube:| hmm yeah seems a strange thing that the stock kernels can handle this13:37
ghostcubeand i dont get it13:37
ghostcube:)13:37
ghostcubethis only happens on mainline kernels13:38
hyperairhmm how strange =\13:38
ghostcubeyeah :)13:38
ghostcubehyperair, http://pastie.org/59215913:42
ghostcube:)13:42
hyperairout of curiosity, what's grep -v grep for?13:46
geserhere is seems to be useless13:51
geserusually it's used when grepping "ps aux" to filter out the grep itself13:52
ghostcubeyep exactly i havent known this before13:57
ghostcubebut so u can ket it check if there i 0 or 1 as echo13:57
ghostcube*l13:57
mok0s it possible to pin a certain version of a package, so it's NOT sync'ed from unstable?14:23
lfaraonemok0: Sure, just give it an ubuntu revision. (I think)14:25
geseryou could try getting it added to the sync blacklist till karmic+1 or subscribe to bug mail for that package and look for sync requests14:26
mok0geser: but it will be auto-sync'ed for karmic+114:27
lfaraonemok0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Blacklisting14:27
mok0lfaraone: that's certainly feasible14:27
geserif you get it off the sync blacklist again14:27
mok0lfaraone: thx14:28
lfaraonemok0: any time.14:28
mok0lfaraone: don't you need to be archive-admin to do that?14:29
lfaraonemok0: Correct, so file a bug against ubuntu-archive.14:29
geserlfaraone: uploading a ubuntu revision just know doesn't prevent someone from requesting a sync (this would only stop the auto-syncs before DIF)14:29
lfaraonemok0: * file a bug against ubuntu subscribing ubuntu-archive14:29
geserso blacklisting is the best way14:30
mok0I don't want the package erased, I just want to pin the version to an older one than unstable has14:31
mok0I guess the easiest thing is to upload an -*ubuntu1 version, with a note in changelog not to merge14:32
gesermok0: blacklisting is independent from removing, see e.g. the ocaml-* blacklisting recently to prevent a start of the OCaml transition (we decided later to do it)14:32
mok0geser: ok, I will look into it14:32
gesermok0: see bug #387943 for the ocaml case14:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387943 in ocaml "Karmic: please do NOT synchronize following packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38794314:33
* mok0 looks14:34
mok0I will do something similar! Thanks!14:35
mok0Launchpad is so slow now it's practically unusable14:39
sebnermok0: ACK. FAils to load pages here too14:40
hyperairit looks fine from here =\14:42
ghostcubelaunchi is slow but works here14:43
hyperairwell considering it's always slow here, i guess launchpad being slow doesn't affect me much eh14:44
sebnerhyperair: heh14:45
sebnerhyperair: do you use edge or normal one?14:49
hyperairnormal one14:50
hyperairsaves me typing14:50
sebnerhyperair: what typing?14:50
hyperairedge.14:50
hyperairtyping urls, you know?14:50
sebnerhyperair: that would be pretty stupid. get done automatically ;)14:51
hyperairhmph.14:51
ghostcubeping fta15:14
ghostcubedamn15:14
ghostcubefta, ping15:14
ftaghostcube, ?15:15
ghostcubefta, you are managing the daily build repo for TB3 and FF3.5 right ?15:15
ftayes15:15
ghostcubePM ?15:16
ftaas you want15:16
wrapstersolution like this is what i want::  use Debian virtual package, (eg zlib1g pkg)  make zlib1g to provide (i.e. using Debian meta tag Provides: in  debian/control) missing packages.   in this case lets assume that we need to integrate all functionalities that SUNWzlib provides.. But without having to install it on the machine but rather try doing something with the existing pkg to get its functionality as well.15:28
wrapsterin a nutshell this is what i want      .deb --> extracted --> directory--->make changes---> back to .deb15:29
wrapsterIm a total newbie ,ive worked with solaris for 2yrs but not with .deb ... so can anyone point me out to links for beginners....15:30
azeem_wrapster: I don't understand your problem :-/15:32
ghostcubeazeem_, you scared him15:37
ghostcube:P15:37
ghostcubei think he just wanted to add dependencies to an deb15:38
ghostcube??15:38
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gesersebner: one of the edge app servers seems to have problems since the last automatic edge roll-out today16:34
sebnergeser: seems to be fixed now though.16:35
geseroh, good to know16:35
sebnerbdrung: you are funny with your "Critical" stuff. I'm wondering if the system or hardware breaks if we don't to the update ;)16:37
bdrungsebner: yes. :p16:38
sebnerbdrung: I'll set it back to wishlist :P16:39
bdrungsebner: i used the same system as for debian. (not usable at all or ftbfs = very high importance)16:39
bdrungthe main thing is that the packages are synced (before ff)16:39
geseru-a doesn't care about importance on sync requests TTBOMK16:40
sebnerbddebian: right, well I don't care. The archive admins should/will complain to you :P16:40
gesersebner: you need to work on your TAB-completion16:41
ghostcubehmm is it somwhow possible to get an what you hear capturew into kmix for intelhda16:42
geser(happens sometimes to me too)16:42
sebnergeser: users should care to not have similar usernames *cough* :P16:42
sebnergeser: ok "fixed" is the wrong word. LP doesn't let me subscribe archive admins :(16:44
gesertry again till you get a working app server16:45
geserI assume it won't get fixed before monday16:45
sebnerheh16:46
hyperairquestion. should i be subscribing ubuntu-archive to acked sync requests?16:46
sebnerhyperair: should have done by the MOTU but if he forgot yes16:47
hyperairtsk tsk.16:47
hyperairguess who forgot? ;-)16:47
sebnerhyperair: I guess it's me trying to subscribe since minutes but b0rken LP don't let me16:47
hyperairminutes?16:48
sebnerhyperair: please go ahead then16:48
slytherinhyperair: I am curious how you built remuco client.16:48
hyperairslytherin: ?16:48
gesersebner: you know you can disable the edge redirection?16:49
hyperairslytherin: there is one big issue i just realized.16:49
hyperairslytherin: i forgot to include it in any .install file, so it's built, but not in any deb16:49
sebnergeser: too troublesome. We have contributor slaves :P16:49
* hyperair headdesks16:49
slytherinsebner: some people might feel offended with term 'slaves'. :-)16:49
sebnerslytherin: well, as I consider myself a sponsoring b*tch :P16:50
slytherinhyperair: How you got to build it anyway?16:50
sebnergeser: ha! it was working. just a lot of pressing f5 and the magic happens xD16:50
hyperairslytherin: it wasn't me. it was oben sonne (upstream guy)16:50
hyperairi think if you dig around the source you might find it16:50
hyperairsomething about copying over some sources16:50
gesersebner: with broken edge I had a good opportunity to test my changes to requestsync to work without LP API :)16:51
slytherinoh16:51
hyperairthat reminds me of *another* thing i forgot16:51
* hyperair facepalms16:51
hyperairoh my god, what's wrong with me lately..16:51
hyperairi forgot to amend the copyright file16:51
sebnergeser: heh! Never got this thing working /here xD16:51
christoph_debianheya! did launchpad change api or is there some other reason reason requestsync gives my only a python trace today?16:53
slytherinhyperair: don't worry, it will surely get rejected. :-P16:54
hyperairslytherin: that's comforting.. in a twisted way.16:54
slytheringeser: I was going to request a quick review of a small library this morning and when I did 'dput' I mistakenly uploaded it to ubuntu archive. It is waiting in new queue. :-)16:56
MontelEdwardshyperair,16:58
geserchristoph_debian: edge is having problems. this also affects the LP API16:58
MontelEdwardsi was looking at the license at Frostwire. It is GPL16:58
hyperairMontelEdwards: yes it is. there were some other issues16:59
MontelEdwardshyperair, like...16:59
MontelEdwardsGPL is GPL, right?16:59
hyperairhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/9401116:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 94011 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Frostwire" [Wishlist,Confirmed]17:00
hyperairsee the comments17:00
christoph_debiangeser: ok I have time ... just want that bugfixes to migrate to my ubuntu users as well for karmic some time ;)17:00
sebnergeser: do the karmic repo is also b0rken? can't update my pbuilder17:01
MontelEdwardshyperair, uh huh... why cant you guys use the officall package.17:01
bdrungsebner: can you have a look at bug #417204, too? i know, that you do not like the priority...17:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 417204 in esperanza "Sync esperanza 0.4.0+git20090708-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41720417:02
geserchristoph_debian: you can still file sync requests by hand if you don't want to wait till edge gets fixed17:02
* slytherin hates when upstream uses too old dependencies :-(17:03
christoph_debiangeser: I guess I'll just wait -- easier :)17:03
sebnerbdrung: you are the uploader etc so thats not that bad but I'm wondering if we want at git snapshot over a stable 0.4 release.17:03
bdrungsebner: yes, we want it. there are only bug fixes in the git repo since the stable release17:04
bdrungsebner: since 0.4 there is nothing "new" developed17:04
sebnerbdrung: kay, I'll review17:05
bdrungsebner: assure yourself: http://git.xmms.se/?p=esperanza.git;a=summary17:05
hyperairMontelEdwards: that's a question that needs a very long answer that i dont have time to give17:06
james_wchristoph_debian: it will probably work tomorrow if you try then17:06
MontelEdwardshyperair, linkage?17:06
hyperairall over the place =\17:06
sebnerbddebian: kay, testbuilding17:06
MontelEdwardshyperair, ah17:06
hyperairlicense is one17:07
MontelEdwardsoh, great.17:07
hyperairpolicy is another17:07
MontelEdwardsFirefox dosent run on ubuntu 9.0417:07
MontelEdwards64bit17:07
hyperairworked for me17:07
MontelEdwards( from mozilla.com)17:07
hyperairoh17:07
ScottKMontelEdwards: Not our problem then.17:07
hyperairuse the ppa17:08
sebnerhuhi ScottK :)17:08
MontelEdwardshyperair, I know, i dont like that Shieritoko crap or whatever17:08
MontelEdwardsScottK, I know, im just saying17:08
hyperairMontelEdwards: that's the code name.17:08
hyperairMontelEdwards: and now it's namoroka17:09
MontelEdwardshyperair, oh. Well I still like the one from mozilla.org17:09
hyperairMontelEdwards: your problem then.17:10
MontelEdwardshyperair, I know. Im not looking for help i am just saying.17:13
sebnerbdrung: you use now xmms2 as icon instead of the one provided in the ubuntu package, why?17:14
bdrungsebner: because the provided one was only a copy of the xmms2 icon17:14
hyperairMontelEdwards: rule of thumb: never whine on a developer channel unless you have a good reason to. and even then prepare to be flamed.17:15
MontelEdwardshyperair, okay :)17:15
sebnerbdrung: ACKed, would you mind subscribing ubuntu-archive since LP is pretty b0rken for me17:18
bdrungsebner: thanks. yes.17:22
bdrungyes, i will do it and no, it wouldn't mind. ;)17:22
sebneryour're welcome :)17:22
bdrungsebner: my workaround is: "update description / tags" -> "subscribe someone else"17:24
sebnerbddebian: heh, good to know. thx17:24
sebnerargh17:28
sebnerdamn tab xD17:28
hyperairheheh17:34
slytherinif a library has do-as-you-wish license but source files does not contain any copyright/license headers is it likely to be accepted in archive?17:40
hyperairisn't that an extremely liberal license?17:41
hyperairfrom what i understand, as long as the files are certain to all be licensed under the same license as the top-level license file, it'll be fine17:42
hyperairif there is code lifted from elsewhere there would be an issue17:42
slytherinthere is no code lifted form some other source. but as I said none of the files contain copyright/license header. I thought it is must for even to be considered for packaging.17:43
MontelEdwardsYES!17:44
MontelEdwardshyperair, I got it to work.17:45
MontelEdwardsthank god for source code17:45
hyperaircongrats17:45
hyperairmeanwhile i'm going to have to deal with this seemingly close sourced Xilinx ISE thing which segfaults at every turn.17:46
MontelEdwardsThe codename is "Minefield"17:46
hyperairwrong.17:46
hyperairMinefield is what they call "firefox unstable"17:46
hyperairand the codename is different for every unstable version17:46
hyperaire.g. shiretoko, namoroko, etc17:47
hyperairat one point of time, gran paradiso17:47
MontelEdwardsah17:47
MontelEdwardsWell i dont like this17:47
hyperairtoo bad for you. it's just a name =\17:47
MontelEdwardsNone of the plugins work17:47
hyperairoh.17:47
hyperairuse a nightly tester plugin17:47
hyperairlike i do17:47
hyperairoverride the compatibility of all plugins17:48
hyperairheheheh17:48
MontelEdwardshyperair, I built something i cloned with meurical. Im just going to build the 3.5* src and see if that works17:48
hyperairhave fun17:49
MontelEdwardsoh wait, how do you uninstall it hyperair17:49
hyperairer sudo make uninstall?17:51
hyperairsince you didn't use a package manager17:51
MontelEdwardsi made it with sudo make install -f clients.mk, but sudo make uninstall -f clients.mk says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.17:52
hyperairwell too bad for you then17:53
hyperairthat's why people use package managers =)17:53
MontelEdwardslol17:53
hyperairnow you're going to have to figure out what was installed where and rm it17:53
MontelEdwardsfun17:53
MontelEdwards:X17:53
MontelEdwardsaha. hyperair it is make clean17:55
hyperair...make clean doesn't uninstall17:57
hyperairor shouldn't anyway17:58
hyperairjust clean the source tree17:58
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MontelEdwardshyperair, i did.18:40
hyperair?18:41
hyperairi meant that make clean only cleans the source tree18:41
MontelEdwardsoh18:41
hyperairrather than uninstalling18:41
MontelEdwardsI thought you meant clean the source tree18:41
MontelEdwardsI am hoping that when I make install 3.5.2 firefox it will overwrite those files18:41
MontelEdwardsRight now it is compiling18:42
hyperairhave fun18:46
stochasticbdrung, the spelling issues in binaries that you found, do those need patches to fix them?  As for the binary not an elf or script, I have no idea what to do with that...  and I think you pointed out one other.18:57
bdrungstochastic: the spelling error in the binary are caused by spelling errors in the source files. you need to find the spelling errors and fix them (using a patch).18:59
bdrungstochastic: for the binary not an elf or script: you have to remove the execution bit from this file.19:00
MontelEdwardsomg omg omg omg19:01
bdrungstochastic: you should add a homepage field to debian/control19:01
MontelEdwardshyperair,19:01
hyperairwhat now?19:01
bdrungstochastic: and there was xjadeo: copyright-refers-to-symlink-license usr/share/common-licenses/GPL19:01
stochasticbdrung homepage filed is added now19:01
bdrungok19:02
MontelEdwardsIf one was to get permission from Frostwire to package their software, could MOTU then?19:02
Laneyno19:02
Laneythat doesn't sound free19:02
stochasticbdrung can you pastebin that full copyright refers to symlink warning so I can see what exactly it wants19:02
MontelEdwardsLaney, but it is GPL19:02
Laneyso you don't need permission19:02
bdrungstochastic: they want that you link to a versioned one (e.g. GPL-2 or GPL-3)19:03
stochasticbut it's licensed under 2 or (at your option) any later19:03
bdrungstochastic: here is the long description: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/copyright-refers-to-versionless-license-file.html19:03
hyperairLaney: the issue is frostwire has a few GPL violations with prepacked binaries or something of that sort =\19:03
stochasticbdrung which version should I point to?19:04
bdrungstochastic: you should link the lowest version (GPL-2)19:04
Laneyso either they can't give you permission or it's not really gpl19:04
hyperairmmhmm19:04
hyperairbingo19:04
Laneyhave they been contacted?19:04
hyperairi think so19:04
hyperairi'm not sure19:04
hyperairbug #9401119:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 94011 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Frostwire" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9401119:05
stochasticbdrung, thanks, I don't have time to fix all this right now, but will very soon.  thanks.19:05
bdrungstochastic: yw19:05
stochasticbdrung now that I read the lintian warning, it says "but the package does not appear to allow distribution under later versions of the license" but that's not the case, can we safely ignore it?19:06
MontelEdwardsLaney, I contacted them19:06
bdrungstochastic: if you want to see all from lintian then run "lintian -iIE --pedantic" on the .changes file19:06
hyperairMontelEdwards: did they say anything about their issues with binaries?19:07
ScottKbdrung: I wouldn't bother with pedantic.19:07
stochasticbdrung, ahh, I was wondering where you got the extra warnings from19:07
ScottKPedantic checks are really not ones we should be worrying about.19:07
MontelEdwardshyperair, ill pastebin19:07
bdrungstochastic: i would ignore it safely.19:07
ScottKThey pretty much all either have high false positive rates or are for very petty details.19:07
MontelEdwardshyperair, she said that she was just about to push one out19:07
hyperairMontelEdwards: push one what?19:07
MontelEdwardsa new .deb19:08
bdrungstochastic: run something like "grep -ir copying *" on your file and check all files if they allow "any later"19:08
stochasticbdrung there's one file that's only version2 but I explicitly state it in the copyright file19:09
hyperairwhen is debian-qa's sf.net script going to be fixed?19:09
stochasticbdrung is that enough to require the version 2 explicit link?19:09
Laneyhyperair: ask them/19:09
Laney?19:09
ScottKOdds are an Ubuntu channel aren't the best place to get that answered hyperair.19:09
hyperairyeah i know =\19:09
bdrungstochastic: can you upload your current status?19:10
MontelEdwardshyperair, http://codepad.org/DIVd8zXU19:11
LaneyI don't know why they talk about .debs, we don't care about that for packaging19:12
hyperairyes, we don't care about debs19:12
hyperairwe care about source code19:12
Laneyand the issue is with their distributed binaries, you have to convince them to remove them19:12
stochasticbdrung, uploading.  (I think the only change should be the homepage field)19:12
Laneyor find a way to work around them yourself if you want19:12
MontelEdwardsLaney, so what should I ask them?19:13
LaneyTo please stop distributing binaries in their source tarballs19:13
MontelEdwardsuh. so like a tarball with non binaries?19:14
Laneyyou should look at it yourself19:14
hyperairMontelEdwards: http://pastebin.com/f1a12a65119:15
hyperairthat's a statistic of how many of which file types exist.19:15
Laneythere's a script suspicious-source in ubuntu-dev-tools19:15
hyperairthere is?19:15
slytherinstochastic: licensecheck is a find program (or script) that you can use to check license of one ore more files.19:15
hyperairinteresting!19:16
hyperairLaney: in all honesty, it seems like suspicious-source appears a little too suspicious.19:16
hyperairLaney: it caught banshee's HACKING file which is basically a text file.19:17
MontelEdwardsOh, so MOTU cant use their deb?19:17
Laneyit just works on whitelists19:17
MontelEdwards.deb*19:17
Laneyno, not at all19:17
hyperairMontelEdwards: i told you that earlier =.=19:17
MontelEdwardshyperair, I must of missed it19:18
MontelEdwardssorry19:18
* hyperair sighs19:18
Laneythis tarball looks quite bad19:19
hyperairextremely.19:19
LaneyMontelEdwards: In all honestly I suggest you give up :(19:19
hyperairheheh19:19
hyperairactually i think frostwire has an irc channel somewhere19:19
hyperairwhat was the server again..19:19
MontelEdwardsLaney, lol19:20
Laneybut you should ask them where the source that they are required to provide by the GPL is19:21
MontelEdwardsLaney, basically what I said.19:22
* MontelEdwards thinks Java is way too hard19:22
LaneyScottK: Is libboost1.38-dev what we're using now?19:22
ScottKLaney: Yes.19:23
ScottKAll the older ones have been removed.19:23
Laneyalright19:23
Laneyfixing geordi19:23
MontelEdwardsLaney, I am guessing that MOTU can use their .debs for security purposes or what?19:24
Laneyno, forget about them19:25
Laneythey are binary packages and we work with source packages19:25
hyperairLaney: you work with geordi?19:25
Laneynot really19:25
MontelEdwardsLaney, is there MOTU rules or something somewhere?19:25
LaneyI'm only seeing it because it's haskell19:25
hyperairwho maintains that bot anyway?19:25
hyperaireh? geordi's haskell? but it runs c++ code!19:26
Laneyyeah!19:26
hyperairstrange thing19:26
hyperairheheh19:26
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* hyperair didn't know geordi existed in the repository19:26
hyperairi only knew of a geordi that resides in ##c++19:26
Laneynever used it tbh19:27
Laneyhttp://qa.debian.org/popcon-png.php?packages=geordi&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=119:27
Laneypopular!19:27
LaneyMontelEdwards: Do you know what the difference between binary and source packages are?19:27
MontelEdwardsLaney, that was insulting. Of course i do19:28
Laneywell then you know why upstream's .debs are useless to us19:28
hyperairLaney: that's not very popular.. only in the tens19:29
Laneyindeed19:29
slytherinMontelEdwards: and why do you think java is too hard? :-)19:31
* hyperair doesn't think java is hard, just that it's stupid :-D19:31
MontelEdwardsslytherin, well it isnt as hard as Brainfuck19:31
hyperairwhat are you saying? brainfuck's as easy as can get19:31
hyperairto learn, that is19:32
hyperairto actually use is a different matter19:32
MontelEdwardshyperair, well yeah, uh if i want to type forever19:32
hyperairhey there was another one that used only spaces and tabs19:33
hyperairbe thankful you're not using that.19:33
MontelEdwards++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.19:33
slytherinMontelEdwards: and why do you think java is too hard? :-)19:33
MontelEdwardsslytherin, because i am used to Python.19:33
MontelEdwardsthats why19:33
* slytherin declares python is too hard. :-P19:34
MontelEdwardshaha.19:34
hyperairc++ is the easiest ;-)19:34
* Laney coughs19:34
MontelEdwardshyperair, I have never looked at it19:34
* hyperair watches everybody simultaneously vomit blood19:34
MontelEdwardsoh, i thought you were serious19:35
Laneyhttp://www.haskell.org/~pairwise/intro/intro.html19:35
Laney:)))))19:35
hyperairi'll make you pay for my headphones if my brain comes through my ears and spoils them19:35
hyperairanyway i've decided that my next language will be lisp, no matter what (emacs comes to mind)19:36
Laneyoh my19:36
MontelEdwardsLaney, i generally dont like languages that have to be compiled19:36
Laneysexps are sick19:36
LaneyMontelEdwards: there are haskell interpreters19:36
MontelEdwardsanyone like C#?\19:37
Laneyindeed a common way to write is to test in ghci until it works and then compile at the end19:37
Laneyf#!19:37
hyperairMontelEdwards: come join #debian-cli now19:38
hyperairheheh19:38
MontelEdwardshyperair, there is nobody there19:38
hyperair;-)19:38
hyperairi forgot to mention which network it's on19:38
* hyperair conveniently disappears19:39
slytherinMontelEdwards: it is on OFTC19:39
hyperairyou blabbermouth you ;-)19:39
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bdrungstochastic: if i change /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL into /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 lintian is happy19:58
bdrungstochastic: the clean target does not remove all generated files19:59
bdrungstochastic: instead of creating a xjadeo.desktop file line by line, you can create a debian/xjadeo.desktop file and simply copy it.20:00
rowinggolfer_hi.21:04
rowinggolfer_running karmic alpha 4, very impressed.21:04
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rowinggolfer_can't get keyboard shortcut app to launch though21:05
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rowinggolfer_the app is gnome-keybinding-properties21:08
rowinggolfer_so the bug is not to be reported to launchpad?21:08
rowinggolfer_bug 41752721:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 417527 in gnome-control-center "gnome-keybinding-properties crashed with segmentation fault" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41752721:10
c_kornI need to run an updater in postinst which requires user interaction in the console (pressing y or n , etc..) how can I forward this to the user ?22:03
geserdebconf22:03
geseror do you want to run a programm in postinst which needs user interaction?22:04
c_korngeser: yes, the program needs user interaction22:10
Mezany MOTU release here?22:39
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c_korna game downloads the data in postinst from the game server because the license forbids redistribution of the data. because the download can take some time I want to show the user the output of the updater. how can I do this ?23:50
chrisccoulsonc_korn - the flashplugin-nonfree package does something similar doesn't it? have you looked at that as an example?23:54
c_kornnever had that package installed. will have a look23:54
chrisccoulsonc_korn - if you're using wget to fetch the data, then that can display a progress indicator23:56
c_kornno, the game has its own updater23:57
c_kornoutput is like this : http://pastebin.com/d66ab417623:58

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