[00:00] <linuxNOOB> in an ubuntu install, i'm stuck in the "configure network" section. I'm used to on my mac all the network stuff being self explanatory, but I'm not sure what to put as a "hostname"
[00:01] <vinnl> !hostname
[00:01] <vinnl> Hmm
[00:01] <vinnl> linuxNOOB, ah, it's just a name for your computer, pick what you like :)
[00:02] <vinnl> Doesn't it get a default value as you enter a username?
[00:02] <linuxNOOB> it has "debian" as the default value. i've tried this before, but the install got stuck so i was trying it again and just double checking its ok as the default value
[00:02] <linuxNOOB> what about for "domain name:"
[00:03] <linuxNOOB> wait, how do i access the gui install? i thought this grey box with the bluebackground was the gui
[00:04] <vinnl> Ah, no, you took the Alternate CD
[00:04] <vinnl> You need the Desktop CD if you want an easy installation with it all being self explanatory
[00:04] <vinnl> Though then again with 256MB RAM you might not want to do that
[00:04] <linuxNOOB> yeah, i thought this ibook only had 128mg RAm, but when i tried installing gentoo i noticed it said i had 256
[00:05] <vinnl> Oh, the Desktop CD should run well with 256, apparently
[00:05] <vinnl> Try downloading that, see http://xubuntu.org/get
[00:07] <linuxNOOB> i already have the xubuntu disk
[00:08] <linuxNOOB> that is the very first one i tried to install
[00:08] <vinnl> And it is the GUI install?
[00:08] <linuxNOOB> but after i select my keyboard configuration. nothing happens. just a blue screen. i'm not sure if i'm suppose to hit a keystroke, or if there is a gui
[00:09] <vinnl> Probably a bug, you could try searching launchpad.net if it has been reported
[00:09] <vinnl> You could try an earlier version of Xubuntu
[00:09] <linuxNOOB> xubuntu doesn't look like it has 2 differerent installers with one not having gui. so if it is suppose to have gui, then i don't know how to access it with the cd
[00:10] <vinnl> There are two CDs: the Desktop CD (with GUI) and the Alternate CD (without GUI, just a grey box on a blue background)
[00:10] <vinnl> It sounds like you got the latter but want the former
[00:10] <linuxNOOB> ick i must have
[00:10] <vinnl> Where did you download the Xubuntu CD from?
[00:11] <linuxNOOB> is powerpc an amd type processor. Because when it mentions mac systems for the desktop cd it says "based on intetl" and this ibook is of course ppc
[00:11] <vinnl> Then you'd need a special ppc port
[00:11] <vinnl> !ppc
[00:12] <vinnl> See that page
[00:12] <linuxNOOB> i love how fast these disks download though.
[00:12] <linuxNOOB> yeah i've read that. but most of it talks about stuff after initial installation, and i can't even get it to install
[00:12] <vinnl> Here you can see where to download the ppc disks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[00:12] <vinnl> linuxNOOB, have you also downloaded the CDs from that location?
[00:13] <linuxNOOB> i know the cds i downloaded are the ppc versions
[00:13] <vinnl> Ah OK
[00:13] <vinnl> Now you need to download the Desktop PPC Cds
[00:13] <linuxNOOB> right now i'm doanloading CD 1 for debian 5.02a powerpc, and the xubuntu 9.04 desktop i386.iso
[00:14] <vinnl> But you don't want i386 if you're using ppc
[00:14] <linuxNOOB> ah ok
[00:14] <vinnl> Here, this is the .iso you want: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/release/xubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[00:14] <linuxNOOB> nice thanks
[00:15] <linuxNOOB> prolly why the first xubuntu disk didn't work. guess i can trash it
[00:16] <linuxNOOB> thanks for the help. i thought i would never get this figured out
[00:16] <vinnl> You're welcome :)
[00:17] <linuxNOOB> i never thought i would try anything other than mac os. because i hate microsoft so much. i finally bought an xbox and really liked it. then thought "hey maybe microsoft isn't so bad". until both xbox's crashed. did the xclamp fix...worked for awhile, crashed again. so now i have two busted xbox's. i'll prolly use them for case mods or something.
[00:17] <vinnl> ^.^
[00:17] <linuxNOOB> anyway, guy i worked with said i should try linux. just now getting around to it
[00:17] <vinnl> Yeah, well, a whole new operating system is a lot to grasp, but it was certainly worth the effort for me
[00:18] <linuxNOOB> at one point I did something that allowed me to run linux apps in os X. not sure how i did that. something in the terminal. just copied and pasted something. couldn't ever get anything else to run except this single rolling ball game
[00:18] <linuxNOOB> i was kind of nervous about doing it. because i never undid anything, so something is now different about my os. but, when i upgrade to snow leopard it should go back to standard
[00:21] <linuxNOOB> so, the place i've been getting stuck in the debian install using the livecd i have, it says "retrieving lvm2-udeb". then it stays at 0%. what's that about?
[00:22] <vinnl> Sounds like some failing internet connection or something, but I wouldn't know. Maybe someone in #debian can help
[00:22] <linuxNOOB> failed internet connection would make sense.
[00:23] <linuxNOOB> because after i typed in host name it wanted "domain name" suggested .com or .org or what not. but i tried .com before, and nothing, so this time i tried .255 the end of my ip address.
[00:24] <linuxNOOB> for domain name i didn't know what to put so i put ".255" that is the last three of my ip. the installer suggested .com or something, but that didn't work before
[00:24] <linuxNOOB> are my chats not getting through?
[00:25] <linuxNOOB> oh, nvm, for somet reason on my screen then are getting added higher up
[00:25] <vinnl> Yes they're coming through
[00:25] <linuxNOOB> weird. switched it back to standard styel.
[00:25] <linuxNOOB> so what did you use before linux?
[00:26] <vinnl> Windows ME, so the switch wasn't that difficult :P
[00:30] <linuxNOOB> ah
[01:18] <vinnl> Well, I'm off, good luck with your installation :)
[01:21] <ToStItOs> I am having a problem installing libdvdread3 gstreamer0
[01:21] <ToStItOs> Getting a error I need some help on this
[01:25] <linuxNOOB> #debian
[01:57] <linuxNOOB> anyone here able to help
[02:24] <jiohdi> any way to keep any one program from hogging up all the cpu time and locking up the system?
[02:41] <jiohdi> any way to keep any one program from hogging up all the cpu time and locking up the system?
[03:41] <jacksonBlind> Anyone here knowledgeable about ebox and shorewall and if they play nice together?
[03:43] <jacksonBlind> Hello?
[03:59] <jacksonBlind> Anyone alive in this chan?
[04:01] <ulead> hi
[04:01] <ulead> hi linux users
[04:03] <jacksonBlind> Hey
[04:03] <jacksonBlind> ulead you have any knowledge about shorewall?
[04:06] <ulead> what
[04:17] <ulead> you can speak spanih
[04:17] <ulead> spanish
[04:19] <jacksonBlind> no
[04:19] <jacksonBlind> Just english
[06:25] <turtle_> anybody know of a gui-based presentation program apart from impress?
[06:26] <turtle_> or any program that will generate a presentation
[06:29] <turtle_> impress seems to sometimes display text from my slides but not others
[06:37] <turtle_> join #openoffice.org
[06:42] <Makavel> anyone knows how to open a serial port in xubuntu?
[06:48] <evilbug> Makavel: you could also try #ubuntu.
[07:00] <Makavel> evilbug: alright, thanks
[07:49] <mk500> hi all; I'm wondering if anyone might be able to help me wih resoluion changing on 9.04; do I need to edit xorg.onf; or is it stored elsewhere now?
[07:49] <turtle_> mk500: as in you want to modify what resolutions are available or simply change which one you are using?
[07:50] <mk500> changing the one I'm using. I'm running an older ATI Rage Mobility M3 and my LCD  (laptop) is 1400x1050 but xubuntu came up in 800x600 and I cannot go higher via GUI tools
[07:51] <mk500> all I tried so far was Applications -> Setting -> Display; and now I'm looking at my xorg.conf in terminal
[07:52] <mk500> so, I guess I do want to modify what resolutons are available; sorry :-)
[07:52] <turtle_> yep then if its not a selectable option you will have to modify xorg.conf
[07:53] <mk500> I'm used to seeing a lot more stuff in the xorg.conf; but this one is pretty bare
[07:54] <mk500> it says Driver "vesa"
[07:54] <mk500> should I change that to
[07:54] <mk500> Driver "ati" or anything?
[07:57] <turtle_> I've never edited the file myself so you might have to scour the web for a guide
[07:57] <turtle_> sorry mate
[07:57] <mk500> I noticed a forum post that said "xorg.conf is in the process of being depricated by the X consortium"; so I was wondering if things have moved
[07:57] <mk500> ah, ok, no problem
[07:57] <mk500> I'll do some more googling
[07:57] <mk500> xubuntu looks really cool....this is my first experience with it....very fast on the older hardware :-)
[07:57] <turtle_> yeah I'm enjoying it so far
[07:57] <turtle_> I do have some issues but I think its with software itself not the OS
[07:58] <mk500> that seems to often be the case :-)
[07:59] <turtle_> I can see why people would switch back to windoze, causes a lot of frustration sometimes
[07:59] <turtle_> like right now I'm trying to prepare a presentation and openoffice is being less than helpful
[08:00] <_Pete_> "i can see dead people"
[08:00] <_Pete_> good movie
[08:01] <turtle_> what is the alternative to mspaint?
[08:02] <mk500> there is a great graphics app...trying to remember
[08:02] <turtle_> not gimp
[08:02] <turtle_> I have gimp but it is overkill
[08:02] <mk500> yeah, gimp was what I was goign to say
[08:02] <turtle_> I just need something simple for cropping, pasting, merging
[08:02] <turtle_> gimp is for people with skills that far outweigh my own :P
[08:02] <mk500> yeah, I hear you....luckily I'm used to photoshop so gimp isn't so bad
[08:02] <mk500> it's overkill for sure
[08:03] <turtle_> I just downloaded tuxpaint but that's for kids :P
[08:03] <mk500> I haven't tried Krita; have you?
[08:05] <turtle_> nope
[08:05] <turtle_> I'll have a look at it after kpresenter has finished downloading
[08:05] <turtle_> what is the shortcut to open a terminal?
[08:06] <turtle_> gets a bit annoying having to go menu>accessories>terminal all the time
[08:06] <turtle_> or even chucking it on my toolbar would be nice
[08:06] <mk500> that's how I ge there :-)
[08:06] <turtle_> well I tried adding a launcher but couldn't figure out what the actual terminal program was called
[08:07] <mk500> there is an "add new items" if your right click  on the toolbar
[08:07] <turtle_> yeah but you then select launcher
[08:07] <turtle_> and have to choose the program
[08:08] <mk500> I see what you mean
[08:11] <mk500> I'm thinking it's somewhere in /usr/X11R6/bin but not seeing it
[08:12] <turtle_> yeah thats where I looked to
[08:12] <turtle_> *too
[08:15] <mk500> ah, found it
[08:15] <mk500> in that path
[08:15] <mk500> called: x-terminal-emulator
[08:16] <turtle_> ok I'll have a squiz
[08:16] <mk500> good old regular xterm is in there too.....but it's looking a bit old fashioned these days
[08:19] <turtle_> works like a charm, thanks mate :)
[08:19] <turtle_> i used x-terminal-emulator, not xterm
[08:19] <turtle_> might see what xterm is like also
[08:19] <turtle_> also I found the program I was after, mtpaint, was just reading linuxformat and came across it
[08:19] <turtle_> looks exactly what I am after
[08:20] <turtle_> wow xterm is pretty small compared to the emulator
[08:20] <mk500> happy to help
[08:21] <mk500> oh cool; I'll have to check out mtpaint
[08:23] <mk500> yeah, I think the first time I used xterm was the late 80's......it's about as simple at it gets
[08:24] <turtle_> well I'm a born-again penguin, only switch to linux in june
[08:25] <mk500> I've always been a unix and mac person....but do have to run windows for client testing purposes; I can't stand being in it for more than an hour or two at a time
[08:26] <turtle_> well I always was raised with windoze, never tried it until 2005, gave it a crack for about three months after my hardrive died using fedora core 4, then through frustration of not knowing how to do anything I switched back to xp
[08:27] <turtle_> my computer had a complete failure in june so i bought an eeepc to tie me over for a couple of weeks and haven't stopped using it :P
[08:27] <turtle_> began using xubuntu as my mates are using ubuntu on their machines
[08:27] <mk500> cool! I've been looking at netbooks; I'm leaning toward the HP mini due to the keyboard
[08:27] <turtle_> if you have money to splash around then you can go for the higher end ones
[08:28] <turtle_> i bought an eeepc because it was the cheapest at 288$
[08:28] <mk500> yeah, I'm waiting for a sale
[08:28] <turtle_> and while it isn't the best, for 288 I can't complain
[08:28] <mk500> best price I've seen on the HP is $279 USD
[08:28] <turtle_> oh ok
[08:28] <turtle_> well all my machines that have failed have been hp's
[08:28] <turtle_> so I wont ever go back
[08:28] <mk500> I think the eeepc is perfect except for the keyboard....and all in all I would likely get used to it I guess
[08:28] <mk500> I should probably just get the eeepc
[08:29] <mk500> I see them on sale here for $189 USD sometimes
[08:29] <mk500> I want one with 16GB SSD preferably so that it is silent and no moving parts
[08:30] <turtle_> yeah I have 8gb ssd
[08:30] <turtle_> am going to source a 16gb to dual boot windoze for gaming
[08:30] <turtle_> my experience with gaming on linux so far has been nothing short of frustrating
[08:31] <mk500> yeah, windows owns gaming for sure
[08:31] <turtle_> if you are going to get a eeepc unless you get a 701 for a steal price, go with the 900
[08:31] <mk500> although, to be honest, consoles own gaming
[08:31] <turtle_> they have the bigger keyboards for typing
[08:32] <mk500> oh, I didn't realize the keyboard was bigger; maybe that would solve my one complaint
[08:32] <turtle_> yeah consoles do but they are prohibitably (sp?) expensive these days
[08:32] <mk500> the HP has a really nice keyboard; but that's the only reason
[08:32] <turtle_> yeah the 900 has a standard keyboard
[08:32] <mk500> yeah, console prices have gotten pretty crazy
[08:32] <turtle_> the 1000 I reckon are notebooks as they are becoming too big to be considered an ultra portable netbook
[08:33] <mk500> yeah, exactly.....and I have a notebook now
[08:33] <mk500> my brother gave me this Inspiron Dell from 2001
[08:33] <mk500> but it's pretty decent for xubuntu
[08:33] <mk500> P III 850Mhz
[08:33] <mk500> it's just not very portable
[08:34] <mk500> and for the price of a newer battery I could almost get an eeepc :-)
[08:35] <turtle_> lol true :)
[08:35] <turtle_> and an eeepc 701 running xubuntu is just like having a proper desktop anyway :)
[08:39] <turtle_> the great thing about them being so cheap is lots of people use them too, so support is very good
[08:39] <mk500> very true....they really started the netbook revolution
[08:41] <psycho_oreos> I sorta doubt that, have a look at things like olpc
[08:42] <turtle_> well I don't know if they started it, but they certainly injected a truckload of interest with their budget machines
[08:42] <mk500> that's a good point; without olpc, I doubt Intel would have pushed to develop the chipset that runs all these netbooks...but the olpc never really was a consumer product
[08:42] <turtle_> they sold millions of them in the first year
[08:42] <mk500> so I guess it's like Apple....eeepc was the first to actually SELL the technology :-)
[08:43] <mk500> like Apple was the first to actually SELL something with a GUI (although Xerox invented it)
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> heh that's a funny thing, because olpc was never really intended for first or second world, it was only to be running in limited production runs which made it awkward for consumers of first or second world to obtain such device
[08:44] <mk500> yup...that and the fact that much of it was specifically designed to not be very useful for adults (to reduce instance of theft)
[08:45] <psycho_oreos> that makes me think of that movie, pirates of the silicon valley.. xerox did invent the gui but it never took off because it was deemed odd at the time, meh
[08:45] <psycho_oreos> didn't think about that point
[08:46] <psycho_oreos> it was more of those really budget processors that would otherwise be found on thin clients or maybe even cpe router equipment
[08:46] <mk500> so Xerox invents, Apple brings to market, and Microsoft figures out how to mass produce
[08:47] <psycho_oreos> there was a specific wikipedia page about it :) more specifically into how they somehow stole off each other and that xerox invented
[08:49] <mk500> of course...Xerox asked Jobs to come on the tour of their facility....and demonstrated the GUI too him; along with some other cool stuff (Ethernet, as I recall)....they didn't really know what to do with it
[08:49] <mk500> I don't think anyone at Xerox ever got very angry at Apple about it
[08:50] <mk500> Microsoft was a bit more brash in their theft.....but that's kind of their whole thing
[08:50] <mk500> have a good friend right now in a lawsuit with Microsoft actually
[08:50] <mk500> not sure they ever really created anything themselves ;-)
[08:50] <mk500> [sorry for the OT]
[08:52] <turtle_> I don't know; I was a Microsoft patriot until I discovered Synaptic
[08:53] <turtle_> now I'm like; f**k Microsoft :-)
[08:53] <turtle_> as much as I've enjoyed going cold-turkey for the last 3 months, dual booting prospect is looming closer for gaming
[08:53] <turtle_> but I don't think there is anything special they do for gaming, it's just the producers seem to only use that OS
[08:54] <mk500> that's the one remaining legitimate use for Windows; in my opinion
[08:54] <turtle_> has anyone had any success with gaming under xubuntu?
[08:54] <mk500> Solitaire!!! :-)
[08:55] <mk500> the real question is what games you want to play....that will dictate your OS
[08:55] <mk500> there's stuff like Wine
[08:55] <mk500> but it's pretty limited
[08:56] <turtle_> lol solitaire
[08:56] <turtle_> lbreakout ftw
[08:56] <mk500> I had to replace a flaky DVD player; so just got a PS3.....really great for playing movies, and should handle whatever gaming I want to do for the next 7 years or so ($299 is finally getting reasonable....less than I paid for the old DVD player)
[08:57] <turtle_> $98 for external dvd drive for my eeepc :P
[08:57] <mk500> hehee, true
[08:57] <turtle_> now looking into getting a tv tuner, apparently they're easy to set up under ubuntu (so I presumed, xubuntu)
[08:57] <mk500> I've really loved using MythTV under various ubuntus
[08:57] <mk500> it supports pretty much every tuner
[08:58] <mk500> scheduling of recordings, etc.
[08:58] <mk500> but I've only used the specialized distros (like MythBuntu)
[08:58] <turtle_> http://eeepc.net/tv-tuner-now-works-with-linux-based-asus-eee-pc/
[08:59] <turtle_> my basis is coming from Jeff's comment
[09:00] <mk500> my only concern on the eeepc would be that a lot of what you get over the air these days is pretty processor intensive
[09:00] <mk500> like over the air in US is ATSC....about 6GB MPEG2 file for 1 hour TV show
[09:01] <mk500> I'm not sure how it will be and downsampling the video on the fly (to fit the smaller screen)
[09:01] <turtle_> well apparently that one works fine
[09:01] <turtle_> just not digital so well
[09:01] <turtle_> but my main aim of it all anyway is to listen to radio
[09:02] <mk500> what is the standard where you are? DVB-T?
[09:02] <mk500> or are there still analog broadcasts? analog is the easiest for sure
[09:03] <turtle_> there is still analog
[09:03] <turtle_> digital is really only starting to take off now in australia
[09:03] <mk500> that's a good thing
[09:04] <mk500> as much fun as I have had playing around with HDTV......it's pretty bleeding edge for a lot of folks
[09:04] <turtle_> analog is still way better in my situation though; because if you get a sketchy analog signal it is still watchable albeit fuzzy, whereas if digital gets a sketchy signal it wont display at all
[09:04] <mk500> I spend a lot of time here in the US helping friends figure out how to recieve TV now that there is no more analog
[09:04] <turtle_> and of course my lil eeepc can't handle hdtv :-P
[09:06] <mk500> if AU is going the route of DVB-T and uses SDTV (basically DVD resolution) for more of the broadcasts...then your eeepc could work out nicely
[09:06] <mk500> but that whole sketchy analog signal issue really is a problem for sure
[09:14] <turtle_> yeah to be quite honest i haven't looked into the format that it is going as I haven't really cared until now
[09:39] <turtle_> mk500: mtpaint seems to be exactly what i'm after
[09:40] <mk500> excellent; I'm hackiing xorg.conf now...but will try it out after
[09:40] <mk500> sounds useful
[09:40] <turtle_> it's very handy, and if you read it's repo info, it's designed for a 200mhz cpu
[09:41] <turtle_> so I can safely remove gimp
[09:41] <mk500> that's a bunch of disk space too
[09:42] <turtle_> exactly
[09:42] <turtle_> which is important when you only have 8gb :P
[09:46] <turtle_> and kpresenter is so much better than impress
[09:47] <turtle_> might have to try out the whole koffice suite
[09:47] <turtle_> it runs pretty fast too
[09:50] <rahmu> hey guys i need help. im having problems with flash. I use Firefox and when I stream a video, the sound comes out OK but the image remains still. Plus my laptop overheats like crazy. I checked out the system monitor, turns out Firefox is using up to 60% of CPU. Any suggestions? (I run Jaunty)
[10:07] <mk500> hehee; got my full resolution working.....that only took 2 hours.....gotta love xorg.conf
[11:05] <turtle_> lol
[11:07] <turtle_> you probably would of wasted those 2 hours anyway
[11:13] <turtle_> sheesh removing impress has freed up 240mb
[11:15] <turtle_> nope another 80mb
[11:15] <turtle_> so make that 320
[13:36] <MadsRH> Hi. Has anyone got time to help with some xubuntu screenshots?
[13:37] <knome> jaunty or karmic?
[13:38] <MadsRH> knome: Hi again :-D I don't know - it doesn't really matter (i think).
[13:38] <knome> MadsRH, for what use would you like those?
[13:39] <MadsRH> Add step by step screenshots for each OS on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[13:40] <knome> MadsRH, iirc, brasero is the default for xubuntu also
[13:40] <MadsRH> knome: I'm trying to get it up to date and add a little more beginner friendliness, but I'm not running Xubuntu
[13:40] <knome> MadsRH, so the steps are basically similar
[13:41] <knome> MadsRH, also i think you'd want a as-close-to-default-theme-as-possible screenshot?
[13:42] <MadsRH> right
[13:42] <MadsRH> knome: right, just thought it would wierd to show the Gnome menu, Ubuntu theme and so on
[15:01] <tehlor> does anyone know where to find the current keys to the e17 repository?
[15:02] <vinnl> tehlor, where's the repository?
[15:03] <tehlor> vinnl: 1 sec
[15:04] <tehlor> deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
[15:04] <tehlor> deb-src http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
[15:05] <vinnl> tehlor, where did you get that from? Mostly they'll list the keys there
[15:05] <vinnl> tehlor, also, are you really using Xubuntu 6.10?
[15:05] <tehlor> yeah, the keys where listed but can't be found
[15:06] <tehlor> and indeed, 6.10
[15:06] <vinnl> It looks like the repo doesn't exist anymore either, probably because 6.10 is so old (it isn't even supported anymore by Ubuntu itself)
[15:06] <tehlor> oh well. i fear updates
[15:06] <tehlor> maybe this old thing can handle one more
[15:07] <vinnl> I can't imagine how running an unsupported system is less likely to get you into trouble ;-)
[15:07] <vinnl> If you fear updates you better run an LTS version, like 8.04
[15:08] <tehlor> i'll have to look at the specs and make sure i can handle such a beast. maybe i'll jump all the way to 9.04
[15:09] <vinnl> Hmm, well, 9.04 will be outdated sooner than 8.04, I think
[15:10] <vinnl> I'm not sure how long version 6.06 is supported, but it still is right now I believe, which is better than 6.10 ;-)
[15:11] <tehlor> hah. i need to bone up on the versioning system too ;-)
[15:12] <vinnl> Hmm, yeah well, 6.10 is newer but not supported as long as 6.06 was :)
[17:21] <ptframe> hi there
[17:21] <ptframe> how can i test if my audio works?
[17:22] <vinnl> ptframe, you can try to play an audio file from the Examples folder
[17:22] <vinnl> !audio
[17:22] <ptframe> well ya, but it's a brand new pc, don't have any audio files, is there any audio files in xubuntu cd itself?
[17:23] <vinnl> ptframe, yes, as I said, the Examples folder
[17:23] <vinnl> If it's not in your desktop, see /usr/share/example-content
[17:23] <ptframe> vinnl, it's not there!!
[17:24] <vinnl> Hmm, not sure if it's on an installed system
[17:24] <ptframe> it's not installed
[17:24] <vinnl> I think you can install the example-content package
[17:24] <vinnl> Hmmm
[17:24] <vinnl> ptframe, which version?
[17:24] <ptframe> I booted from it live
[17:24] <ptframe> 9.04
[17:25] <vinnl> !example-content
[17:25] <vinnl> !examples
[17:25] <vinnl> ptframe, hmm, you could open Applications->System->Synaptic Package Manager and install example-content, if you've confiugred your network connection
[17:26] <vinnl> But if so, you can also just download an audio file, of course
[17:26] <vinnl> I got to go, try http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tromboon-sample.ogg
[17:26] <vinnl> Bye
[17:27] <ptframe> ok
[17:29] <ptframe> I found an audio file, which player can play it?
[17:29] <ptframe> ok it's working
[17:29] <ptframe> see ya
[17:46] <kbmaniac_> After a power cut, xubuntu desktop and panels do not respond to right clicking, any ideas ?
[17:47] <kbmaniac_> plus I lost the application menu and a few other panel icons
[18:03] <vinnl> kbmaniac, have you tried rebooting? You never know ;-)
[18:06] <kbmaniac_> many times, + dpkg-reconfigure on several packages
[19:15] <kbmaniac_> sorted :), by freak coincidence the power cut happened at the same time my mouse button died !!!
[19:15] <vinnl> Haha xD
[19:17] <kbmaniac_> It was not till I booted to XP to see if a mp4 will play on media player and I realised ... no right click
[19:17] <kbmaniac_> ..oh and no it doesn't, does media player actually manage to play any format !
[19:18] <vinnl> Don't you have to download a codec or something?
[19:19] <kbmaniac_> think so, problem is I have a mp4 movie I need to send to a company as part of a complaint, I don't think they are very tech savvy
[19:19] <vinnl> Send VLC along with it ;-)
[19:19] <kbmaniac_> So I have trief transcodeing it via ffmpeg to various formats, zip success
[19:19] <kbmaniac_> rather send a xubuntu disk ;)
[19:19] <vinnl> :)
[19:20] <vinnl> I must say, it's very cool Firefox 3.5 can now play Ogg, so you can send those files and tell people to play it in Firefox :)
[19:21] <kbmaniac_> might be an idea, but I bet they are running IE, there website has been down for weeks, there is no hope
[19:21] <vinnl> :(
[22:05] <Joker_-_> Help! Just installed Jaunty (Xubuntu) on a friend's computer (for the second time). Everything goes fine untill I reboot after updating. It looks like something goes wrong during the update as when XFCE loads, nothing happens. Xorg starts, I get a blue screen (background), the mouse cursor, but thats it. It doesnt do anything more and stayes there. Computer isnt loading or anything (I waited for 3 hours) and the consoles works fine. I tryed re-installing b
[22:12] <vinnl> Joker_-_, there's also no wallpaper?
[22:14] <Joker_-_> vinnl: nope
[22:14] <Joker_-_> I just tryed to stop gdm trough console and checker .xfce-errors file in user's directory
[22:14] <Joker_-_> it says there is no xfce-misc on display 0:0
[22:15] <Joker_-_> don't know if it means much tho.
[22:15] <Joker_-_> then tryed to start xfce manually (startx) and the computer locked.
[22:15] <knome> Joker_-_, removing ~/.cache should help, but it might be a one-off ease only.
[22:16] <Joker_-_> knome: yeah well I can try that... Imma install sshd first to see if the computer does lock or if it's just the keyboard/mouse that stops responding
[22:19] <Joker_-_> knome: removing the cahe didnt heled
[22:19] <Joker_-_> helped
[22:19] <knome> right.
[22:19] <Joker_-_> and the computer doesnt lock, it's just the keyboard, mouse and screen that doesnt do anything
[22:19] <Joker_-_> ssh still works
[22:20] <Joker_-_> cpu at 0% so nothing is loading
[22:27] <Joker_-_> no ideas
[22:27] <Joker_-_> ?
[22:27] <Joker_-_> I'm kinda stuck here
[22:27] <knome> hmhm.
[22:27] <Joker_-_> I'm killing things but I can't get the screen back
[22:29] <Joker_-_> what's the minimum to keep in the user's directory for the desktop to load as a fresh install?
[22:29] <Joker_-_> a fresh ubuntu install that it
[22:29] <Joker_-_> *is
[22:30] <knome> remove anything starting with a .
[22:30] <Joker_-_> lets say I remove everything?
[22:31] <knome> should be ok as well.
[22:31] <knome> *should* :)
[22:33] <Joker_-_> let's reboot that...
[22:34] <Joker_-_> nope, same thing
[22:35] <Joker_-_> oHHh
[22:35] <Joker_-_> no it loaded
[22:35] <Joker_-_> took forever but it did
[22:35] <Joker_-_> let's reboot and see...
[22:38] <Joker_-_> same stuff in ~/.xsession-errors but it's now getting to the desktop and everything looks fine
[22:38] <Joker_-_> strange, but as along as it works...
[22:38] <Joker_-_> thanks for the hints
[22:38] <vinnl> \o/
[23:07] <smogattack> Can I get a free copy of xubuntu? without shipping costs?
[23:08] <vinnl> smogattack, unfortunately, no, though you might contact your Local User Group to see if they can set you up with something if it's really necessary
[23:09] <knome> vinnl, ehm, actually
[23:10] <knome> oh right.
[23:10] <knome> nothing. nevermind. :)
[23:10] <vinnl> :)