[00:00] <kubuntu2> yes it's listed in my disks & filesystem
[00:01] <LuisJa> hello, i could emulate windows xp using virtual box, and now i am running command and conquer red alert 2, the problem comes when i start playing, i am not able to use the mouse to move INSIDE the game, because outside the Vbox windows appears the linux mouse moving, is there a way to fix this? (guest additions installed already, no mouse capture problem)
[00:01] <kaddi> kubuntu2: can you just check how the C:\boot.ini looks on your windows partition?
[00:01] <b14ck> what's a good limewire-like program for kubuntu?
[00:02] <kubuntu2> kaddi: don't I have to go into a live cd for that?
[00:03] <kaddi> kubuntu2: if your kubuntu is working not. You can just access the disk with windows installed on it and open it with an editor.
[00:04] <kubuntu2> kaddi: how do I do that, click on it in storage media?
[00:05] <kaddi> kubuntu2: yes, that should do it
[00:07] <kubuntu2> kaddi: ok what am I looking for?
[00:07] <kaddi> a file called boot.ini at the root of the partition
[00:08] <kaddi> you can simply open it in a editor like kate
[00:08] <kubuntu2> yes it's there, I opened it
[00:08] <kaddi> ok, can you paste me the content?
[00:09] <kubuntu2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/258314/
[00:11] <kaddi> kubuntu2: can you please check how the partition is called. type "mount" into konsole and look which partition (it should be /dev/sda2) is mounted as the partition you just accessed
[00:12] <kaddi> the boot.ini looks fine :)
[00:14] <kubuntu2> yes it's dev/sda2
[00:15] <kaddi> and you only have one harddisk
[00:15] <kubuntu2> yes
[00:16] <kaddi> kubuntu2: that's really odd.. if you select "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" you get into the recovery mode?
[00:17] <melomane> hi, is "cups" related to printers? i have no printer on my system , can i remove cups packages? everytime i update ubuntu, i have to wait a lot for updateing cups
[00:17] <kubuntu2> yep
[00:17] <melomane> kubuntu2: is it my answer?
[00:18] <kubuntu2> melomane: sorry no that answer was for kaddi
[00:18] <kaddi> kubuntu2: is the message identical to the one you get when you boot into the other windows-option?
[00:18] <melomane> kubuntu2: nevermind ;)
[00:18] <carpii_> you can remove cups if you dont have a printer
[00:18] <carpii_> and dont have any special pdf printer etc
[00:18] <genii> sda2 != multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)         since numbering starts at zero. It would equal partition(1)
[00:18] <melomane> carpii_ really good, no nothing especial
[00:19] <carpii_> but if you remove cups, you might remove some apps which depend on it
[00:19] <carpii_> so really id just disable it, and leave it to update
[00:19] <kubuntu2> kaddi: never tried the other windows option, but I'm sure it will throw me into recovery as well since that's what it's for
[00:19] <melomane> carpii_ ok,i must do that
[00:20] <kaddi> genii: you're sure? I thought MS started at one not zero...
[00:21] <genii> kaddi: Itś like the grub hd(0,0) is sda1 , etc etc
[00:21] <kaddi> genii so if sda2 is the windows partition, we need to edit boot.ini?
[00:22] <genii> kaddi: I would suggest to add a second entry there with multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)         and then select that and see if it can load
[00:23] <genii> eg: copy line 4 of the paste and change the 2 to 1
[00:23] <kaddi> genii hehehe... as if I would recall how do to that.. :p
[00:23] <kaddi> genii: yes but if you add another line you need to design a default and possibly a timeout to be able to choose
[00:24] <kaddi> ok kubuntu2 lets try the following, you still have the boot.ini file open?
[00:24] <kubuntu2> this is all sounding very technical lol, tho a simple 2 to 1 change I can do, I think
[00:25] <genii> kaddi: I can't recall offhand the layout of the boot.ini file. But the info should be readily available someplace google-able
[00:25] <kubuntu2> yes, but not as sudo
[00:25] <genii> kubuntu2: You can always change it back if it fails miserably
[00:25] <kubuntu2> genii: oh yay :P
[00:26] <kaddi> kubuntu2: you should not need to be sudo, to edit it. You can just test by saving the file, if it saves without problem we're good :)
[00:26] <kubuntu2> kaddi: okies
[00:27] <kubuntu2> done
[00:27] <kaddi> as genii said copy the line "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition trial" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn" into the file underneath [operating systems]
[00:27] <kaddi> without the quotation marks
[00:28] <kaddi> and add "timeout=10" without the quotation marks underneath  [boot loader]
[00:29] <kaddi> save the file and reboot. Select the Windows XP Home Edition option from grub, you should then see a second menu, from that menu choose "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition trial" and see if it can boot
[00:30] <kubuntu2> kaddi: and if it does, that's the solution? :)
[00:32] <kaddi> kubuntu2: yes :) I would give you instructions on how to remove the second menu and boot directly into windows, but basically if it works it should be fixed :)
[00:32] <kubuntu2> kaddi: alright I will try it
[00:38] <James147> Just installed karmic alpha4 and am unable to connect to wireless connections (secured or unsecured). Wireless card is Intel wireless/Pro 4965AGN.
[00:38] <genii> James147: #ubuntu+1 channel for Karmic
[00:38] <James147> kk
[00:39] <joshua__> ...................................................................................
[00:40] <chuyzoz> Hello?
[00:40] <James147> hi
[00:40] <chuyzoz> can somebody help me?
[00:41] <James147> chuyzoz: With what exatly?
[00:41] <chuyzoz> i am fairly desperate now...  i just installed kubuntu
[00:41] <chuyzoz> (consider me a complete newbie )
[00:41] <chuyzoz> and well.. after customizing it and everything.. it was fine
[00:41] <chuyzoz> except.. my wireless was not working for some reason
[00:42] <chuyzoz> i browsed around and saw that wcid was a suitable application
[00:42] <chuyzoz> that could help me out .. so i decided to give it a try
[00:42] <chuyzoz> when i tried to install it... it said i had to remove network manager
[00:42] <chuyzoz> and i did...
[00:42] <chuyzoz> and then my internet went
[00:42] <chuyzoz> and i can´t install wcid  or network manager
[00:43] <chuyzoz> so my system is without internet
[00:43] <kaddi> chuyzoz: did you install from cd?
[00:43] <chuyzoz> kubuntu? yes
[00:43] <chuyzoz> when i run the live cd its fine
[00:43] <chuyzoz> the internet works..
[00:43] <kaddi> are you running jaunty?
[00:43] <chuyzoz> yes
[00:44] <kaddi> you can get the package for either wicd or networkmanager from cd :)
[00:44] <chuyzoz> okay...
[00:44] <kaddi> chuyzoz: do you have a konsole?
[00:44] <chuyzoz> how would i do that
[00:44] <kaddi> hit alt + f2 and type "konsole" and enter
[00:44] <chuyzoz> i am on a separate computer ... so i can follow all of your steps
[00:44] <chuyzoz> in the live CD session or my regular one ?
[00:44] <kaddi> your regular session
[00:45] <chuyzoz> okay .. one second, let me restart the computer then
[00:45] <James147> chuyzoz: wait
[00:45] <chuyzoz> its.. restarting, what is it ?
[00:45] <James147> chuyzoz:if you dont have network in it you might want to hear all instructions first
[00:46] <chuyzoz> i am on a separate computer
[00:46] <James147> chuyzoz: unless you have another comp :)
[00:46] <James147> chuyzoz: was just checking
[00:46] <chuyzoz> hehe.. that would have been foolish..
[00:46] <chuyzoz> okay .. its booting up now}
[00:47] <kaddi> :)
[00:47] <chuyzoz> okay ... done
[00:47] <chuyzoz> so.. konsole.. right?
[00:47] <kaddi> yes please
[00:47] <chuyzoz> go on
[00:47] <kaddi> once you have the console type "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" into it. a window should open asking for your password and then a file will open in a texteditor
[00:47] <J2daosh> i need my wired internet working
[00:47] <J2daosh> or wireless
[00:48] <kaddi> the first line should start with: # deb cdrom:
[00:48] <J2daosh> i dont care which but i need that crap to start working
[00:48] <J2daosh> how do i make it freakin work
[00:49] <genii> J2daosh: from command: lspci                what does the line about your wired ethernet adapter read?
[00:50] <J2daosh> realtek semiconductor RTL8101E
[00:52] <kubuntu2> well that didn't work :-/ "root>\system32\hal.dll file is missing/corrupt and has to be reinstalled
[00:53] <genii> kubuntu2: OK, change it back then. If possible restate original issue
[00:54] <genii> J2daosh: What does command: lsmod | grep r816                  show?
[00:56] <J2daosh> it shows r8169 35972 0
[00:56] <kubuntu2> ok, I removed hd from pc and when I reconnected it xp went into recovery mode, kaddi and others were tryin to correct it w/o having to reinstall
[00:57] <kubuntu2> and b4 that I was wondering if once xp is installed does repartition its space cause any probs such as partition name changes
[00:57] <genii> J2daosh: does: modprobe -l | grep r8168       show that driver available ?
[00:58] <kubuntu2> james147 stated other than fixing grub, everything else should be alright :)  and that's my story lol
[00:58] <genii> J2daosh: I am reading a post right now that your particular adapter loads the 8169 which fails and not the correct 8168
[00:58] <J2daosh> no
[00:58] <James147> kubuntu2: if your going to reinstall xp, partition it before hand but the only issue might be /etc/fstab if the xp partion was listed in there (easy to fix)
[00:58] <J2daosh> ok, how do i change that adapter? cuz this is really annoying lol
[00:59] <kubuntu2> ah, not another fixer :-/
[01:00] <kubuntu2> james147: wouldn't it be easier to partition after?
[01:00] <James147> kubuntu2: not really, its the same process before or after only before it has less chance of screwing your newly installed xp
[01:00] <James147> unless you really want to do it form windows
[01:01] <James147> kubuntu2: and the fstab isent hard to fix :)
[01:02] <kubuntu2> james147: ok but it won't change my kubuntu dev names right? (like sda5 to sda7 or so)
[01:03] <J2daosh> genii: how do i blacklist that wrong driver?
[01:04] <James147> kubuntu2: dont think so. but if it does that can be fixed
[01:07] <kubuntu2> hmm alright, well I shall be back! lol  hope you guys are here when I do this
[01:07] <neoandersen> hello
[01:07] <genii> J2daosh: The prob would be then since the 8168 driver seems not available, what would it try to load?
[01:07] <neoandersen> anyone here record video from the webcam?
[01:07] <J2daosh> dont know, hopefully a driver that works
[01:07] <neoandersen> mine is not working...
[01:08] <neoandersen> its a slim genius webcam...
[01:09] <J2daosh> neoandersen: try getting cheese webcam booth
[01:09] <neoandersen> ok
[01:09] <neoandersen> thanks
[01:10] <genii> J2daosh: There is quite a lot on this adapter and ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843398   posting #10 seems possibly useful for you
[01:15] <joshua__> anybody ever try the nuke command
[01:16] <James147> joshua__: sudo rm -rf ?
[01:16] <joshua__> just rm -rf
[01:17] <joshua__> it's a really good way of getting rid of a file starting with -
[01:17] <James147> joshua__: but sudos more fun :)
[01:17] <joshua__> as it doesn't do option parsing
[01:19] <James147> joshua__: if your triyng to get rid of files starting with - carnt you rm -r "-*" ?
[01:19] <joshua__> try it
[01:19] <joshua__> doesn't work
[01:20] <James147> *-*
[01:20] <James147> seems to
[01:20] <joshua__> invalid option -- *
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> You probably need to use \-
[01:21] <James147> ./-*
[01:21] <joshua__> now you see why I prefer to keep nuke around
[01:21] <joshua__> nuke -f removes a file called -f
[01:22] <James147> rm -r ./-*  works and is safer then rm -rf
[01:22] <genii> Please don't use the rm command in open channel people.
[01:23] <genii> There are new users who are monkey-see monkey-do and will type things in they see here just from being curious what they do
[01:23] <joshua__> yeah that *-* one could do some real damage
[01:23] <joshua__> the others generate error messages
[01:23] <trampel> so if i just copy and paste that and hit return....
[01:24] <James147> trampel: it would remove files matching the patern spicifed
[01:25] <joshua__> no point talking to trampel -- he quit
[01:26] <joshua__> I'm glad they put that safeguard about / into the rm command. It proved too easy to generate recurive remove from / by accident.
[01:26] <joshua__> and if you really need it you can get it by --no-preserve-root
[01:28] <joshua__> if you really want to make a mess of things, see the dd command
[01:29] <J2daosh> should i apply the hardy patch if im not using hardy?
[01:30] <joshua__> sounds like a bad idea
[01:31] <J2daosh> that it does
[01:31] <J2daosh> and it makes me think this wont work because the fix is for hardy and not 9.04
[01:38] <J2daosh> wtf, i cant install the module
[01:39] <J2daosh> its saysing that there is no /build directory in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[01:39] <J2daosh> and there isn't, but why should there be?
[01:40] <joshua__> it is a symlink to compiled tree of running kernel, if present
[01:41] <J2daosh> and if it doens't exist, what do i do?
[01:41] <joshua__> not a clue
[01:42] <joshua__> you could download kernel sources, extract .config from running kernel, compile, and do make modules_install
[01:42] <joshua__> unfortunately rather messy if you don't already know how
[01:44] <Mist_> Why does the updater in kubuntu 9.04 block the kernel updates instead of updating them?
[01:44] <Mist_> Is it meant that one should use synaptic in order for those to update?
[01:46] <James147> Mist_: sudo aptitude full-upgrade works
[01:46] <Mist_> James147: aye.. I was more mening the application in KDE from the green kogg.
[01:48] <Mist_> the update one do through the updatenotifier that is ^^
[01:51] <James147> I think it uses something simular to aptitudes 's safe-upgrade, dosent update packages that are more likly to break your system (ones that need to renmoves other packages and such)
[02:57] <mkpaa> any preferred way to install latest eclipse to jaunty? should I just make a own install or use some repository?
[02:59] <James147> mkpaa: whats the latest version? 3.2.2 is availble for me in the reops
[03:01] <amason_> mkpaa: i would recommend grabbing it from the site. its been removed in debian
[03:01] <amason_> so it will probably follow in ubuntu
[03:02] <amason_> basically its unmaintained and eclipse is pretty hard to actually package from my understanding
[03:35] <kidblooper> good evening everyone
[03:36] <James147> Hello
[03:38] <kidblooper> hows it going james
[03:41] <James147> alright
[03:42] <kidblooper> guess theres not much general chat around here
[03:42] <BluesKaj> everyone survive the latest updates
[03:42] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:43] <kidblooper> ya i'm here lol
[03:43] <kidblooper> finally got everything up and working on my netbook
[03:43] <kidblooper> touchpad is still acting a little fruity.. but ubuntu is pretty nice
[03:44] <BluesKaj> had to reinstall kdebase-workspace-bin , i had no desktop after login
[03:44] <kidblooper> i've been on suse and slackware for the last ten years.. so a lot to learn in a few days
[03:44] <kidblooper> for just you user name ?
[03:45] <kidblooper> i rm -rf /home/kidblooper/.kde
[03:45] <kidblooper> restarted x and everything worked fine
[03:45] <BluesKaj> the nvidia-glx185 driver on karmic finally worked
[03:46] <kidblooper> nice
[03:46] <kidblooper> not much power on the video of this net book so its all good
[03:46] <kidblooper> i dont have the balls to drop suse off of my home pc
[03:47] <BluesKaj> it was an updated , but it caused me some probs , so I was at the tty prompt for a bit updating & upgrading til the right dependencies came down the pipe.
[03:47] <kidblooper> ya same here
[03:47] <kidblooper> something like 143 updates
[03:48] <kidblooper> 20 mb line at work.. didn't take but a few seconds
[03:48] <kidblooper> thanks again for reffering me to wicd works like a charm
[03:48] <BluesKaj> I'm dual booting with W7 , dunno why , it's really quite a boring OS for windows
[03:49] <kidblooper> lol same here
[03:49] <kidblooper> i've been trying to find a vmware alternative so i can run both at the same time
[03:49] <kidblooper> bootloader says vista for some reason though
[03:50] <kidblooper> windows 7 seems quite nice.. hate to say it .. but i was quite impressed with microsoft on this one
[03:51] <James147> kidblooper: they seem to finally be making osme good choises
[03:52] <kidblooper> yep
[03:52] <kidblooper> they hired my best friend for starters lol
[03:52] <kidblooper> he had nothing to do with 7 though
[03:53] <BluesKaj> I was having some issues with the medibuntu repos til the ppl at #medibuntu confirmed penguin42's opinin that I had to disable IPv6 , which I had to research cuz the old method was no longer applicable. Turns out editing  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf was the answer
[03:53] <kidblooper> weird
[03:54] <BluesKaj> yeah i saw mentions about editing grub/default but that was  wrong of course
[03:56] <kidblooper> glad there was someone there that would help you
[03:57] <kidblooper> well i'm gonna jump back on the developement bandwagon, see where i get this phase of my life
[03:57] <BluesKaj> well, I asked the question and got an answer within 10 mins , which isn't too bad
[03:58] <kidblooper> nope
[03:58] <kidblooper> i could have wasted 2 hours pecking at the keyboard without result..
[03:59] <BluesKaj> well, it's sacktime for old guys ... night
[03:59] <kidblooper> goodnight
[04:08] <Adola> Hello!  I'm at college, and they use a Cisco system to require validation to use their internet.  I'm unable to load the page with Firefox, or Konqueror.  It's a .jsp, and I DO have java enabled.  Any ideas?
[04:08] <Adola> The page whites out.
[04:18] <amason_> Adola: jsp is running on the server side
[04:18] <amason_> so you aren't actually executing that on your desktop
[04:18] <Adola> amason_, Yes, I know...
[04:18] <joshua__> wow
[04:18] <joshua__> this URL kills firefox x64
[04:19] <henry_BR> I tried copy Angels in America(DVD) with DVD Shrink and it works. But I wanna copy Friends but it fails... K9copy fails too... I don't know what i can do to copy.. =\ any sugestion?
[04:19] <amason_> Adola: then why did you mention that you _do_ have java enabled ?
[04:19] <Adola> amason_, But, I'm still unable to get it working.
[04:19] <joshua__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Rn0Ll_uOQ
[04:19] <Adola> amason_, Well, I assumed there was something to do with it?
[04:20] <amason_> henry_BR: you probably have not enabled the decss libs. It is not enabled by default as it may be illegal in your country. You should check the legality before enabling this
[04:21] <henry_BR> amason_: i will see about it
[04:21] <henry_BR> amason_: thank you
[04:21] <amason_> np
[04:30] <joshua__> www.youtube.com too now
[04:41] <joshua__> wow can't keep konqueror up more than a few seconds
[05:11] <liuqin> anybody here?
[05:12] <keroo> good afternoon!!
[05:12] <kidblooper> kinda sorta
[05:13] <kidblooper> watching all the problems with the updates lol
[05:15] <dane> anyone know anything about RAM or memory?
[05:16] <kidblooper> like what ?
[05:16] <dane> my ram decreased randomly
[05:16] <kidblooper> are you running in a virtual console ?
[05:17] <dane> nope
[05:18] <kidblooper> what method are you using to determine thats its being decreased ?
[05:18] <dane> i had windows
[05:18] <dane> and it told me on the boot screen
[05:18] <kidblooper> oh wow
[05:18] <kidblooper> totally not were i was going with that
[05:19] <dane> oh
[05:19] <kidblooper> what kind of ram are you using ?
[05:19] <dane> sdram
[05:19] <dane> pc133
[05:19] <kidblooper> how much and what size chips ?
[05:20] <dane> 2 128mb chips
[05:20] <dane> so 512mb
[05:20] <kidblooper> 2 128 = 256
[05:21] <dane> sorry
[05:21] <liuqin> right
[05:21] <dane> thats what its reading
[05:21] <kidblooper> ok so its reading 256 ?
[05:23] <kidblooper> ok so you have 2 128 meg chips. and its reading 256. where is the problem ?
[05:24] <kidblooper> i am a little tired and if i'm sounding retarded. i do apologize , its not intended. or did i just read this wrong ?
[05:26] <dane> i have 512mb total
[05:26] <dane> its reading only 128
[05:26] <kidblooper> so you have 2 256 meg chips physical ?
[05:27] <dane> mhmm
[05:28] <kidblooper> and the ram is matching ?
[05:28] <kidblooper> same make etc ?
[05:28] <dane> yes
[05:29] <kidblooper> hardware problem somewhere.. if you have 2 x 256 and it reads 128 , just doesn't make sense
[05:29] <kidblooper> try switching the ram around.. then reset the bios defaults
[05:48] <dane> how do i reset the bios defaults
[05:50] <kidblooper> when the computer is booting and you see the memory reading. you should have to hit a key such as delete or f2, then it should tell you
[05:50] <kidblooper> something like f9 for defaults etc
[05:50] <kidblooper> then save and exit
[05:50] <kidblooper> not knowing which bios your on.. kinda hard to say
[05:51] <dane> ubuntu?
[05:51] <kidblooper> thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:51] <dane> yeah
[05:52] <dane> i see
[05:52] <kidblooper> you said it reading that at boot correct ?
[05:53] <dane> i guess
[06:23] <noaXess> good morning
[06:24] <noaXess> what package should be installed for linux headers so i always get latest linux headers if i upgrade the kernel, linux image?
[06:25] <Ch0ps> clear
[06:31] <noaXess> !linux-headers
[06:31] <noaXess> !show linux-headers
[06:31] <noaXess> !search linux-headers
[08:02] <igor> hi, does anybody know how to  remove adept notifier and network manager from autostart n kde 4.3?
[08:21] <thomasawood> hello all
[08:22] <thomasawood> what is going on tonight?
[08:26] <thomasawood> i am new to ubuntu and the irc chats are there any things that i need to do so that i can choose a room or area to talk in
[09:55] <kavurt> Every time, when I turn off computer, I leave Quassel as full screen, to find it full screen when I boot next time. But, although some other apps comes back as full screen, Quassel comes resized. I should press full screen button after every boot. I use Kubuntu Karmic Alpha. Is it Quassel's problem, or Kubuntu's?
[10:03] <k0pp> i need a voice recorder
[10:03] <k0pp> something that will take input from microphone
[10:03] <k0pp> whats a good package
[10:05] <llutz> k0pp: audacity, might be a bit bloated just for recording
[10:38] <couillou973> Salut a tous =)
[11:23] <OsamaK_> Where should I report bugs related to a language package in Launchpad?
[11:25] <shadeslayer> OsamaK_: a standard bug tagged under translations will do i think,also see #ubuntu-bugs for more help
[12:05] <MadAGu> hey guys
[12:05] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: hey
[12:06] <MadAGu> anyone knows if there is possible to use emerald theme manager with kde window composite?
[12:06] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: have you heard of aurorae window deco?
[12:06] <MadAGu> shadesplayer: yes but it lags my desktop....
[12:07] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: ah... yes emerald can be used
[12:07] <shadeslayer> !emerald
[12:07] <MadAGu> shadesplayer: and how can i do that?
[12:07] <MadAGu> do you know?
[12:07] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: install emerald
[12:08] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: then run : emerald --replace
[12:09] <MadAGu> shadesplayer: i've tried it but it does nothing...
[12:09] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: then what about K > appearence > window
[12:10] <MadAGu> it isn't included in the menu...
[12:10] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: oops, K >system settings > appearence
[12:11] <MadAGu> shadesplayer: yes i've got it what you meant.... i just mean that emerald isn't in the list with the other window decorators...
[12:12] <shadeslayer> MadAGu: oh... no idea then
[12:13] <MadAGu> shadesplayer: thanks for your time anyway :)
[12:21] <Hustlers_David> is #Ubuntu down? i cant seem to get in
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Hustlers_David: its absolutely fine,ask in #ubuntu-ops
[12:23] <Hustlers_David> must be this java applet not working, cheers
[12:26] <ilkin> hello everyone
[12:26] <ilkin> how to search  for specific string in all html files in my computer?
[12:29] <leaf-sheep> ikonia: grep?
[12:29] <ilkin> i dont use Stringi
[12:30] <leaf-sheep> I don't understand.
[12:32] <Bou> lol
[12:33] <ilkin> *Strigi
[12:34] <ilkin> ))))
[12:34] <ilkin> to use Strigi I have to built its database however size of Kubuntu partition does not allow me to do that
[12:35] <ilkin> so
[12:35] <ilkin> is there any other methods to look files up?
[12:36] <matthias_> hello, everybody
[12:36] <darkdan> hi all
[12:39] <Bou> ilkin: find, grep ?
[12:43] <ilkin> Bou: reading about it
[12:44] <ilkin> will it allow me to replace string?
[12:44] <ilkin> one virus added iframe line to all my html files...so i have option to delete all them or treat
[12:44] <ilkin> i chose second)
[12:45] <Bou> you can replace with sed or awk I think
[12:46] <Bou> and some regexp
[12:46] <matthias_> hey (:  i am looking for a photoviewer with dynamic backgroundcolor..  do you know what i mean ?  it schould choose the BGcolor automaically ...   is there any prog ?
[12:47] <ilkin> ok i'll try,,thanks
[12:48] <ilkin> by the way
[12:48] <ilkin> is there any good antivirus for linux platform?
[12:48] <shadeslayer> !virus | ilkin
[12:49] <shadeslayer> ilkin: also the a/v software scans for Windows viruses and not linux viruses
[12:50] <ilkin> i want it to search windows viruses..exactly what i need
[12:50] <ilkin> thanks guys
[12:51] <shadeslayer> ilkin: hehe :P
[12:51] <kidblooper> yay i got e17 installed :)
[12:51] <shadeslayer> kidblooper: e17?
[12:51] <kidblooper> enlightenment
[12:51] <Bou> ilkin: this should show you everywhere there is the "iframe" tag in your html files :     find -name *.html |xargs grep iframe    (in command line)
[12:52] <Bou> now you need to learn a bit of sed and do the replacement :p
[12:55] <ikonia> leaf-sheep: did you want me ?
[12:58] <leaf-sheep> ikonia: Wrong nickna,e.
[12:58] <leaf-sheep> nickname*
[13:10] <ikonia> leaf-sheep: ahh, no problem
[13:39] <chuyzoz> hello? I need some help
[13:40] <chuyzoz> Hello?
[13:41] <chuyzoz> can anybody help me? i need to install either wicd or network manager
[13:41] <chuyzoz> without internet acces
[13:42] <Bou> hello
[13:44] <Bou> chuyzoz: you have a live CD?
[13:44] <chuyzoz> Hello?  can anybody help me install either wicd or network manager
[13:44] <chuyzoz> hello
[13:44] <chuyzoz> yes i do
[13:44] <Bou> then add the CD to your source for packages installation
[13:44] <chuyzoz> its inside the computer at the moment
[13:44] <chuyzoz> how do i do that ?
[13:44] <chuyzoz> i am absolutely new to linux
[13:45] <Bou> hum don't remember under Kubuntu..
[13:45] <chuyzoz> the guy i talked to yersterday said to go to the sources.list
[13:45] <Bou> search something like a "packages manager"
[13:45] <Bou> no need to edit sources.list i think
[13:45] <Bou> there should be a softeware with a GUI for it
[13:45] <chuyzoz> packages manager in where ?
[13:45] <chuyzoz> is it a program or what?
[13:45] <Bou> yep
[13:45] <Bou> adept maybe
[13:46] <Bou> search in the k menu
[13:46] <chuyzoz> nothing comes out
[13:47] <Bou> or try this in a terminal:    sudo apt-cdrom add
[13:47] <chuyzoz> okay , i reinserted the cd
[13:48] <chuyzoz> what can i do now?
[13:48] <Bou> have you typed  "sudo apt-cdrom add" ?
[13:48] <Bou> in a terminal
[13:48] <chuyzoz> yes
[13:48] <Bou> then try " sudo ap-tget install wicd  "
[13:48] <Bou> sorry
[13:48] <Bou> sudo apt-get install wicd
[13:49] <chuyzoz> yesterday i was here, trying to instal wicd ,  talking to another guy
[13:49] <chuyzoz> we got somewhere
[13:49] <chuyzoz> but i don{t know if it helped
[13:49] <Bou> have you typed the last command?
[13:49] <chuyzoz>  right now, after that command it says wicd is already the newest version
[13:49] <chuyzoz> yes i did.
[13:49] <Bou> oh
[13:50] <Bou> well looks like wicd is installed then
[13:50] <Bou> have you tried to launch it?
[13:50] <chuyzoz> but when i just type wicd in konsole
[13:50] <chuyzoz> it says .. root privileges are required for the daemon to run proplerly
[13:51] <Bou> try   sudo wicd then
[13:51] <chuyzoz> when i try running it, it sortof opens
[13:51] <chuyzoz> but then closes
[13:51] <chuyzoz> okay
[13:52] <chuyzoz> i type sudo wicd and the following line comes out /var/run/wicd/wicd.pid
[13:53] <Bou> hum
[13:53] <Bou> try wicd-client
[13:53] <Bou> wicd might be the deamon, and wicd-client the GUI
[13:54] <chuyzoz> root privileges are required to run....
[13:54] <chuyzoz> after wicd client
[13:56] <Bou> sudo wicd-client
[13:57] <chuyzoz> it says... file "/usr/share/wicd/wicd-client.py" line 40 in module...
[13:58] <chuyzoz> import gtk... import error : no module named gtk
[13:59] <Bou> erm
[13:59] <Bou> i can't help more sorry
[13:59] <chuyzoz> oh .. .i see
[13:59] <chuyzoz> well.. can you help me to uninstall wicd?
[13:59] <chuyzoz> i tried yesterday
[13:59] <chuyzoz> but .. couldn't
[13:59] <Bou> sudo apt-get remove wicd
[14:00] <Bou> chuyzoz: type the command above in a terminal ^
[14:00] <kidblooper> +1
[14:00] <chuyzoz> i get that the following packages have unment dependencies..
[14:01] <chuyzoz> but
[14:01] <chuyzoz> are those relevant?
[14:01] <Bou> :S
[14:01] <chuyzoz> wicd is still in the applications after that command
[14:01] <kidblooper> did you restart your window manager ?
[14:02] <kidblooper> sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[14:02] <kidblooper> sudo apt-get remove wicd
[14:04] <kidblooper> or -gnome if you using kde
[14:04] <chuyzoz> when y type sudo apt'get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[14:04] <chuyzoz> i am in kde .. so
[14:04] <chuyzoz> what must i type ?
[14:05] <kidblooper> sudo apt-get install network-manager
[14:05] <kidblooper> or sudo aptitude install network-manager
[14:06] <chuyzoz> okay i'll try the second one
[14:06] <kidblooper> restart you window manager after doing that
[14:06] <chuyzoz> what is the window manager?
[14:06] <chuyzoz> i mean ... how do i close it
[14:07] <kidblooper> log out , restart x and log back in
[14:07] <chuyzoz> what is the difference between aptitude and apt'get ?
[14:08] <llutz> chalcedny:  it's called apt-get and those are 2 different tools for package-management
[14:08] <llutz> chuyzoz:  ^^ sry
[14:09] <kidblooper> http://pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/
[14:09] <chuyzoz> okay , so i restarted my computer
[14:09] <chuyzoz> and now ?
[14:09] <kidblooper> log in
[14:09] <chuyzoz> i did
[14:10] <kidblooper> ok so run the command network-manager
[14:10] <kidblooper> done
[14:10] <chuyzoz> itsays .. command not found
[14:11] <chuyzoz> i think i am having trouble removing wicd
[14:11] <chuyzoz> because when i typed sudo aptitude install network-manager
[14:11] <chuyzoz> it says i need to remove wicd
[14:12] <llutz> it should have asked you to do it for you
[14:12] <chuyzoz> okay ,  i ran it again just now
[14:12] <chuyzoz> and clicked yes
[14:12] <chuyzoz> or well. . typed y
[14:12] <kidblooper> ok its working
[14:12] <chuyzoz> i didn't see the prompt last time
[14:12] <kidblooper> it will do the rest for you
[14:13] <chuyzoz> but i don´t have internet access on the one with kubuntu
[14:13] <chuyzoz> but i have the cd
[14:13] <chuyzoz> how do i add the cd to the sources again?
[14:14] <chuyzoz> was it .. sudo apt-cdrom add?
[14:14] <kidblooper> sudo mkdir /media/CD
[14:14] <kidblooper> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/CD
[14:14] <kidblooper> try that
[14:15] <kidblooper> i'm not positive , just did a quick search on a forum
[14:15] <chuyzoz> okay
[14:15] <chuyzoz> should i try installing again?
[14:16] <kidblooper> yep.. might want to put the path is the repository
[14:16] <kidblooper> and i dont know how to do that lol
[14:16] <chuyzoz> oh...
[14:17] <chuyzoz> i think i'm having trouble removing wicd
[14:17] <chuyzoz> because when i type wicd it still says
[14:17] <chuyzoz> root privileges are required for the ....
[14:18] <chuyzoz> okay i tried
[14:18] <kidblooper> weird
[14:18] <chuyzoz> sudo aptitude remove wicd
[14:18] <chuyzoz> and it may have worked
[14:18] <kidblooper> good deal
[14:19] <chuyzoz> okay
[14:19] <kidblooper> i found wicd to be much easier for my wireless
[14:19] <chuyzoz> i ran sudo aptitude install network-manager again
[14:19] <kidblooper> but different computers etc
[14:19] <chuyzoz> that is what happened to me...
[14:19] <chuyzoz> my wireless was not working
[14:20] <kidblooper> what laptop ?
[14:20] <chuyzoz> so i tried removing network manager to install wicd
[14:20] <chuyzoz> and i was left with no internet.. and here i am
[14:20] <chuyzoz> dell xps m1530
[14:21] <chuyzoz> so i ran the sudo aptitude install network-manager and .. i am restarting now
[14:21] <chuyzoz> should it automatically boot ?
[14:21] <chuyzoz> i mean.. should network manager open
[14:21] <kidblooper> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707741
[14:21] <kidblooper> check that out
[14:22] <kidblooper> theres the fix for the problem
[14:22] <kidblooper> guess i should have asked for more info
[14:22] <chuyzoz> oh .. fancy that
[14:22] <kidblooper> but you'll need to get wicd or network manager funtioning again lol
[14:22] <kidblooper> but should be no prob
[14:23] <chuyzoz> okay .. restarted
[14:23] <chuyzoz>  how do i know if network manager wasi nstalled ?
[14:24] <kidblooper> just run the command network-manager
[14:25] <chuyzoz> it says
[14:25] <chuyzoz> command not found
[14:25] <kidblooper> is wicd still working ?
[14:25] <chuyzoz> its not installed anymore
[14:25] <chuyzoz> when i type wicd it asks me to install it
[14:25] <James147> network-manager isent a runable program...
[14:26] <James147> try running NetworkManger
[14:26] <chuyzoz> so how do i open it ?
[14:26] <chuyzoz> okay
[14:26] <chuyzoz> networkmanger?
[14:26] <chuyzoz> or manager
[14:26] <James147> with the caps
[14:27] <chuyzoz> i typed.. NetworkManager and it says
[14:27] <kidblooper> my bad.. lol i dont use it
[14:27] <James147> but usually you run knetworkmanager to interface with it
[14:27] <chuyzoz> the program is not installed
[14:27] <kidblooper> just reinstall wicd
[14:27] <James147> then you need to install it :)
[14:27] <kidblooper> then fix the problem
[14:28] <James147> or wicd
[14:28] <chuyzoz> i thought i did .. about 20 lines ago
[14:28] <kidblooper> sudo aptitude install wicd
[14:28] <kidblooper> then read that post
[14:28] <eshat> Hi all. Screencast app for KDE ?
[14:28] <kidblooper> multiple ppl with the same problem have resolved it with that info
[14:29] <chuyzoz> the original problem
[14:29] <chuyzoz> was that when i tried installing wicd
[14:29] <chuyzoz> i didn't have the dependencies
[14:29] <kidblooper> ahhhh
[14:30] <kidblooper> do you have a lot of info saved on this computer ?
[14:30] <chuyzoz> no .. i just installed kubuntu
[14:30] <chuyzoz> i am a complete newbie as you may have realized
[14:30] <kidblooper> i'd start over lol
[14:30] <chuyzoz> but i was told that if i have the cd
[14:30] <chuyzoz> i can install network manager
[14:30] <chuyzoz>  the problem i am haivng is that
[14:30] <James147> you can
[14:31] <chuyzoz> when i try installing anything it checks the internet
[14:31] <chuyzoz> but i don't have internet connection
[14:31] <James147> run "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the first line
[14:32] <James147> (delete the #)
[14:32] <James147> then run "sudo aptitude update" then trty to install the network manager
[14:32] <chuyzoz> okay
[14:33] <chuyzoz> should i type sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager?
[14:33] <chuyzoz> to install it ?
[14:33] <chuyzoz> or just network
[14:33] <chuyzoz> network-manager i mean
[14:33] <James147> you may want to install knetworkmanager as well (if your useing kde.42)
[14:33] <Bou> eshat: krecordmydesktop ?
[14:33] <chuyzoz> which one first ?
[14:33] <James147> its the systray widget that you interact with
[14:33] <chuyzoz> oh okay
[14:33] <James147> just intsall knetwork manager, it will install anything it needs withb it
[14:34] <kidblooper> bbiab
[14:35] <chuyzoz> i keep running
[14:35] <chuyzoz> sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[14:35] <James147> do sudo aptitude update first
[14:35] <chuyzoz> and says that a whole bunch of packages are to be installed
[14:35] <chuyzoz>  okay
[14:36] <James147> install everything it wants (watcvh for anything it trys to remove)
[14:36] <chuyzoz> i just ran sudo aptitude update
[14:37] <chuyzoz> and sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[14:37] <chuyzoz> one after the other
[14:37] <chuyzoz> and when i type knetworkmanager
[14:37] <chuyzoz> it claims it is not installed
[14:37] <James147> when you tr to intsall an application via a package managment software, it will download and install anything that the program you want needs to run
[14:38] <James147> pastebin the output of sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[14:38] <chuyzoz> just copy past it ?
[14:38] <James147> alt+crtl+c to copy in konsole
[14:38] <James147> dont past it here
[14:39] <James147> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ there and past the link you get here
[14:40] <chuyzoz> i .. don't have internet access...
[14:40] <chuyzoz> on the other computer
[14:41] <chuyzoz> one sec..
[14:41] <James147> type sudo aptitude update >> ~/afilename   that will send the output the the file "afilename" in your ho,e directory
[14:42] <kidblooper> nice i learned something :)
[14:42] <James147> do the same with sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[14:47] <fabio123> hi
[14:47] <kidblooper> hello
[14:47] <James147> hello
[14:48] <chuyzoz> one sec..
[14:48] <fabio123> gwenview still broken?
[14:49] <James147> broken how? it seems to work for me (kde 3.0)
[14:50] <fabio123> kde 4.3
[14:50] <James147> thats what i ment :S
[14:50] <white_pelican> fabio123, what do you mean broken?
[14:50] <fabio123> gwenview is broken on kubuntu kde 4.3
[14:51] <fabio123> it crash
[14:51] <James147> it any perticular point?
[14:52] <fabio123> whenver i open a picture
[14:52] <fabio123> kde 4.3 still not perfect
[14:52] <chuyzoz> okay james
[14:52] <chuyzoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/258689/
[14:52] <chuyzoz> sorry about the delay
[14:53] <white_pelican> fabio123, that's an understatement :)
[14:53] <James147> hmm, you could try renaming the config files in .kde (search for gwenview rather then the whole .kde)
[14:53] <fabio123> white_pelican: that is the truth
[14:54] <chuyzoz> hello ? james?
[14:54] <James147> chuyzoz: looking at them
[14:55] <James147> chuyzoz: just checking... the cd is in the drive right?
[14:55] <chuyzoz> yes
[14:55] <chuyzoz> just noticing .. it tries to access canadian ubuntu
[14:55] <chuyzoz> would it matter if i'm not in canada at the moment?
[14:56] <James147> not really
[14:59] <chuyzoz> hello?
[14:59] <James147> looking somehting up
[15:02] <James147> chuyzoz: try commeting out all the other lines in /etc/apt/sources.list  atm its trying to get the lastest packages (the cdrom is now outdated) so temporaly removing the more updated sources will force it to use the cdrom
[15:03] <chuyzoz> so.. every source then
[15:03] <chuyzoz> desudo kate /apt what was it ?
[15:04] <bazhang> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:04] <chuyzoz> how do i comment it out .. just remove the #  ?
[15:04] <James147> opposite, add a #
[15:04] <bazhang> comment out means put # in front of the lines
[15:04] <James147> anyline beginning with a # is a comment and will eb ignored by the program
[15:05] <vbgunz> how do I get the python module thread? I installed python-extended-threading but this is not thread. how do I get thread, is it available in the repos?
[15:05] <vbgunz> the module is *threading, sorry
[15:06] <vbgunz> python-processing?
[15:06] <chuyzoz> okay .. commented it all out
[15:06] <chuyzoz> update again?
[15:06] <vbgunz> will try it
[15:06] <James147> yeah
[15:06] <chuyzoz> i tried
[15:07] <chuyzoz> sudo update install knetworkmanager
[15:07] <chuyzoz> and ... it says. . couldn't find any package whose name or description matched knetworkmanager
[15:07] <bazhang> chuyzoz, sudo aptitude not sudo update
[15:07] <chuyzoz> okay .. sudo aptitude
[15:07] <chuyzoz> then?
[15:08] <bazhang> !info knetworkmanager
[15:08] <James147> chuyzoz: sudo aptitude update    first
[15:08] <chuyzoz> i did the update
[15:08] <chuyzoz> i'm in sudo aptitude now ...
[15:08] <chuyzoz> do i search for what knetworkmanager ?
[15:08] <chuyzoz> or what ?
[15:09] <James147> yeah
[15:09] <chuyzoz> what name.. knetworkmanager?
[15:09] <bazhang> sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[15:10] <chuyzoz> sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager says that it can't find any package whose name or description matched knetwork manager
[15:10] <bazhang> chuyzoz, please paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[15:10] <James147> chuyzoz: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? (cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> ~/filename)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:11] <spacelime_> hello! anybody using KDenlive here?
[15:12] <chuyzoz> one sec
[15:14] <chuyzoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/258704/
[15:19] <chuyzoz> hello?
[15:19] <James147> chuyzoz: what was the putout of sudo aptitude update now?
[15:19] <bazhang> chuyzoz, you dont have internet?
[15:19] <chuyzoz> no .. i don't
[15:19] <chuyzoz> thats the problem lol
[15:19] <James147> trying to install knetworkmanager as it got removed...
[15:19] <bazhang> how are you on now
[15:20] <chuyzoz> different computer
[15:20] <bazhang> ethernet?
[15:20] <chuyzoz> yes
[15:20] <bazhang> chuyzoz, any reason not to connect ethernet to Kubuntu box and install that way?
[15:20] <chuyzoz> i have ethernet connected to the laptop
[15:21] <chuyzoz> but its not working
[15:21] <chuyzoz> is there a way to configure the ethernet without wicd or network manager ?
[15:21] <bazhang> chuyzoz, simply sudo dhclient eth0 from the console with ethernet cable attached
[15:21] <chuyzoz> sudo aptitude update just says ign cd rom twice
[15:21] <genii> chuyzoz: Does result of: ifconfig    show some lines for the eth0 interface?
[15:21] <James147> chuyzoz: is the cdrom mounted?
[15:22] <chuyzoz> how do i do that again?  sudo apt-cdrom add
[15:22] <chuyzoz> ¡
[15:22] <chuyzoz> ?
[15:22] <bazhang> chuyzoz, you can connect wirelessly or wired from the Konsole if you wish to try
[15:22] <James147> just open it in dolphin is the easiest way
[15:23] <genii> bazhang: I'm thinking also that ifconfig eth0 up might be faster :)
[15:23] <chuyzoz> i CAN  acces the disk in dolphin
[15:23] <chuyzoz> genii .. so ifconfig
[15:23] <chuyzoz> and then?
[15:23] <bazhang> chuyzoz, does it show eth0 wlan0 lo ?
[15:24] <bazhang> genii, yep :)
[15:24] <genii> work, back in 3-5 minutes
[15:24] <chuyzoz> it doesn't show anything
[15:24] <chuyzoz> it shows..
[15:24] <bazhang> chuyzoz, where are you typing ifconfig
[15:24] <chuyzoz> konsole
[15:24] <chuyzoz> it shows about 5 or 6 lines
[15:24] <llutz> chuyzoz:  "/sbin/ifconfig -a"
[15:24] <chuyzoz> okay
[15:24] <bazhang> no output whatsoever?
[15:25] <chuyzoz> okay /sbin/ifconfig -a" that
[15:25] <chuyzoz> provided more output
[15:25] <chuyzoz> i have eth0 and wlan0
[15:25] <chuyzoz> what am i looking for?
[15:25] <bazhang> those
[15:25] <chuyzoz> well.. what about them?
[15:25] <llutz> chuyzoz:  " sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient3 eth0 "
[15:26] <chuyzoz> okay
[15:26] <bazhang> should just be dhclient iirc
[15:26] <llutz> oops, sry then
[15:26] <chuyzoz> so what do i put ?
[15:26] <chuyzoz> just sudo dhclient3 eth0  ?
[15:26] <bazhang> perhaps debian has dhclient3 :)
[15:26] <llutz> it has ;)
[15:27] <llutz> chuyzoz:  " sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0 "
[15:27] <bazhang> chuyzoz, without the 3
[15:27] <chuyzoz> okay
[15:27] <chuyzoz> i did than
[15:27] <chuyzoz> that
[15:27] <bazhang> chuyzoz, this is with the ethernet cable plugged in btw
[15:27] <chuyzoz> now ?
[15:27] <FloodBotK2> chuyzoz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <llutz> chuyzoz:  it should have been pluggedin before...
[15:28] <chuyzoz> sorry ... okay .. internet is working !
[15:28] <bazhang> now go back to sources.list
[15:28] <chuyzoz> okay
[15:28] <llutz> thanks to the gods of long timeouts
[15:28] <James147> chuyzoz: uncomment the lines in /ect/apt/sources.list again
[15:28] <chuyzoz> kdesudo kate apt what?
[15:28] <bazhang> you will want to reverse everything you just did
[15:29] <bazhang> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:29]  * genii returns with more coffee
[15:29] <James147> chuyzoz: kdesudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:29] <James147> kdesudo kate sorry^^
[15:29] <genii> Ah, back on track now I see
[15:29] <chuyzoz> so .. uncomment everything?
[15:29] <chuyzoz> every line ?
[15:29] <chuyzoz> i don't recall which ones i  did
[15:29] <genii> chuyzoz: Only those beginning with deb or deb-src
[15:29] <James147> anything beginning with deb
[15:30] <bazhang> comment out the cd and uncomment the main ones , ie apart from backports and canonical partner (though you may use those as well if you wish)
[15:31] <bazhang> especially if you wish to add kde4.3 or some commercial apps from canonical repos
[15:31] <chuyzoz> so now .. sudo aptitude update?
[15:31] <James147> yup
[15:31] <bazhang> chuyzoz, after you have changed and saved, yes
[15:31] <chuyzoz> done ...
[15:32] <chuyzoz> now ? sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager?
[15:32] <chuyzoz> or wicd ?
[15:32] <bazhang> up to you
[15:32] <chuyzoz> well network manager wasn't working with wireless
[15:32] <chuyzoz> so might as well
[15:32] <James147> never founf knetworkmanager any good in 4kde.2
[15:33] <bazhang> I tend to use the konsole ; chuyzoz it may be useful to learn some commands for doing that way as well
[15:33] <chuyzoz> okay .. its installing wicd. . guys thank you so much all of you
[15:33] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 <---- chuyzoz
[15:33] <BluesKaj> knetworkmanager was dropped in jaunty i believe
[15:33] <bazhang> BluesKaj, still there
[15:33] <James147> BluesKaj: no its still there
[15:33] <genii> chuyzoz: The wireless problem may be some other issue unrelated to knetworkmanager itself
[15:33] <BluesKaj> just got here, bazhang
[15:34] <bazhang> perhaps Karmic :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:34] <chuyzoz> okay .. wicd opened up
[15:34] <chuyzoz> excellent
[15:34] <bazhang> chuyzoz, you may wish to sudo aptitude upgrade now as well
[15:34] <James147> BluesKaj: kde 4.3 uses plasma-widget-networkmanagment (which contains knetworkmanager)
[15:35] <chuyzoz> what does that do ? .. update my packages or what ?
[15:35] <bazhang> chuyzoz, just as advertised, yep :)
[15:35] <James147> updates everything
[15:35] <BluesKaj> odd , i recall something called kdenetworkmanager
[15:36] <chuyzoz> does it update everything that is installed ?
[15:36] <James147> BluesKaj: knetworkmanager launches the systray applet for kde4.3 for me cant find kdenetowrkmanager
[15:37] <BluesKaj> James147, no matter , I use wicd since that widget one was so flaky ...it might be more stable now but I'm sold on wicd on all our linux machines
[15:37] <bazhang> chuyzoz, everything installed via the package manager; third party outside apps you installed with a repo, no
[15:37] <bazhang> err without chuyzoz
[15:37] <chuyzoz> okay excellent
[15:38] <chuyzoz> i  am still getting the hang of this
[15:38] <chuyzoz> package system
[15:38] <chuyzoz> so .. whenever i install something , i do it via the add /remove thing ?
[15:38] <chuyzoz> or just sudo aptitude install x
[15:38] <James147> more things yes
[15:38] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/  <-- here is an excellent free pdf for learning more chuyzoz
[15:41] <chuyzoz> thanks. i really appreciate your help .. i'm sorry if i was very slow
[15:41] <chuyzoz> but i am trying to learn
[15:41] <bazhang> chuyzoz, everyone starts that way :)
[15:42] <chuyzoz> i installed it about a week ago
[15:42] <chuyzoz> took me about 2 days to get the cube to work lol
[15:42] <chuyzoz> didn't realize i had to install the graphics driver
[15:42] <chuyzoz> well i did.. but didn't know how
[15:45] <BluesKaj> James147, I have kdenetworkmanager in this file /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kdenetworkmanager.mo... which contains knetworkmanager , go figure :)
[15:45] <James147> BluesKaj: heh
[15:48] <BluesKaj> we have 3 linux machines all running well on wicd , so that's why I recommend it over the native net manager : 2 are wifi and one ethernet
[16:01] <alxju> hi all! I have un .sh script in my autostart folder (kde 3.5.10). The scripts is correct (it is executable and work when i doudl click on)
[16:01] <alxju> but it dont start automaticaly every times
[16:02] <alxju> (at boot). I dont understand why
[16:02] <alxju> (the script is very simple: 3 lines:
[16:02] <alxju> #!/bin/bash
[16:02] <alxju> osdsh &
[16:02] <alxju> osdctl -S /home/alexis/.osd-alexis4 &
[16:02] <FloodBotK2> alxju: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> alxju, what kind of script ..what does it start ?
[16:03] <alxju> it's all
[16:03] <alxju> yes it start correctly when i click
[16:03] <genii> Looks like some on-screen-display settings
[16:05] <alxju> yes osdsh just display a little osd (i use it to see volume)
[16:05] <alxju> (kde's kmix osd dont work. little proble with hd chipset i think)
[16:11] <alxju> http://paste.ubuntu.com/258733/
[16:21] <labfis> hola
[16:21] <genii> !es | labfis
[16:39] <carlos_> que ondas
[16:39] <carlos_> quien ta por ahi
[16:43] <michaelc> hello people is there a way i can add serch on the menu to find program quick
[16:44] <James147> what version are you useing? search is on the kickers by default on kde 4.x
[16:44] <BluesKaj> michaelc, there is a search in the Kmenu
[16:45] <michaelc> BlueEagle: i dont see it
[16:45] <michaelc> bluekaj: i dont see it
[16:45] <michaelc> lol tab didnt work that time lol
[16:46] <michaelc> i have ultimate edition 2.3
[16:46] <Mamarok> michaelc: it depends on your KDE version, only in KDE 4.x
[16:46] <Mamarok> michaelc: what are you talking about?
[16:46] <wedergley> dns reverso paua ubuntu alquem tem?
[16:46] <Mamarok> there is no ultimate edition in Kubuntu
[16:46] <bazhang> !ultimate | michaelc
[16:46] <michaelc> its what i have the system
[16:46] <Mamarok> !pt | wedergley
[16:46] <wedergley> sim
[16:47] <BluesKaj> michaelc, use kickoff style kmenu ..it's at the top
[16:48] <michaelc> sorry im new to thos how i do that
[16:48] <michaelc> this*
[16:48] <BluesKaj> right click on the "blue K" and choose kickoff style
[16:49] <michaelc> i dont see a blue K
[16:49] <BluesKaj> in the panel
[16:49] <michaelc> hmmm
[16:49] <bazhang> michaelc, is this gnome or kde? downloaded from www.ubuntu.com or somewhere else
[16:49] <BluesKaj> are you on ubuntu or kubuntu
[16:50] <michaelc> gnome i think i have the version ultimate edition 2.3
[16:50] <bazhang> michaelc, if this Ubuntu Ultimate its not supported on Ubuntu channels
[16:50] <michaelc> ohhh ok
[16:50] <BluesKaj> michaelc, join #ubuntu
[16:50] <Mamarok> michaelc: you need to ask where you got it from
[16:50] <bazhang> err no
[16:50] <michaelc> ok thanks
[16:50] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: they will not give him any support I fear
[16:51] <Mamarok> michaelc: either ask the Ultimate people or install a regular Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[16:51] <BluesKaj> ultimate edition 2.3 , sounds like a windows OS :)
[16:52] <BluesKaj> this is a regular kubuntu
[16:52] <michaelc> hmm ok thanks for your help
[17:02] <apparle> how to modify strings in bash scripts.....Actually I am taking the argument to script as somefilename.ext and I want to generate a variable which will contain the filename without the extension
[17:11] <Abhi_> hello all
[17:11] <genii> apparle: Something like cut -d'.' -f1   might work for you
[17:11] <James147> apparle: is there a split command in bash? if so you could probally split it at the .
[17:12] <Abhi_> i can't load facebook, yahoo etc, using konqueror
 i can't load facebook, yahoo etc, using konqueror
[17:12] <James147> <-- victor____ (n=quassel@78.16.225.50) has quit ("No Ping reply in 90 seconds.")
[17:12] <apparle> genii: James147 thanks I'll see
[17:12] <James147> Abhi_: never found konq to work very well with facebook and simular sites
[17:12] <Abhi_> yea
[17:13] <James147> Abhi_: its a problem with konq only thing you can do is use another borwser
[17:13] <Abhi_> i have firefox, opera & seamonkey installed
[17:13] <Abhi_> i have flock also
[17:14] <Abhi_> but i need another browser
[17:14] <Abhi_> instead of konqueror
[17:14] <Abhi_> any other browser for KDE?
[17:15] <Abhi_> can anyone answer?
[17:15] <genii> !info arora
[17:15] <sunny__> firefox will be best
[17:15] <Abhi_> sunny, yea
[17:15] <Abhi_> but opera seems faster to me
[17:15] <James147> Abhi_: firefox should be fine with facebook and most other sites
[17:16] <Abhi_> flock is also a good browser
[17:16] <sunny__> hi i was not able to setup multiple monitor on kde4.3 i can add multi monitor but canot disable mirror
[17:16] <Dragnslcr> Abhi_- Facebook loads fine for me in Konqueror. Maybe you should be more specific about what your problem is
[17:16] <James147> Abhi_: you can always try the different browers on the sites you need and see which one works best for you
[17:16] <sunny__> yep opera is also good, less memory foot print compared to others
[17:16] <James147> Dragnslcr: fabook loads fine, but some of the features dont work in it
[17:17] <James147> Dragnslcr:chat and such things on the bottem bar for instance
[17:17] <Abhi_> what about arora?
[17:17] <Abhi_> is it a KDE browser?
[17:17] <James147> Abhi_: auora is ment to be more compatable with sites (karmic will be useing it as teh default over konq because of this)
[17:18] <Abhi_> can i use arora with sites like facebook or yahoo?
[17:18] <James147> Abhi_: arora is a qt app
[17:18] <James147> Abhi_I dont know, you will have to try them and see
[17:19] <Pavel__> having some printer problems... Kubuntu has identified the printer, but when i try to print it tells me the printer 'may not be connected'
[17:19] <Pavel__> (it is plugged in via USB)
[17:19] <Pavel__> any ideas?
[17:20] <apparle> Abhi_: I am unable to make arora with proxy in jaunty
[17:21] <apparle> Pavel__: is the printer on :)
[17:21] <Pavel__> yes.
[17:21] <apparle> Pavel__: then I can't help........never had my own printer.......but many people forget to do that........so I thought I would suggest
[17:22] <crunge> I have a 64 but kubuntu jaunty system that authenticates via LDAP. The users on the system don't have local accounts. The software update tool in the system tray doesn't allow users to run updates. Is there a specific group these users need to be in?
[17:23] <Pavel__> i figure it might be because it's a shared computer (at work)
[17:24] <Pavel__> apparle do you think there might be some package I should sudo apt-get?
[17:24] <apparle> Pavel__: no I don't know anything about printers
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> crunge- pretty sure you need root privileges to install or update packages
[17:25] <Pavel__> apparle right I'm just thinking its probably my system since the printer works for others
[17:25] <crunge> Dragnslcr: well the users are in the sudoers file with ALL=(ALL) ALL so doing it with sudo works fine
[17:26] <Dragnslcr> crunge- then what exactly is the problem?
[17:26] <crunge> Dragnslcr: the system tray functionality doesn't work
[17:27] <apparle> Pavel__: you mean others with kubuntu can get the same printer working but you can't ??
[17:27] <Pavel__> no, others with xp/osx can and I cannot
[17:28] <Dragnslcr> crunge- KPackageKit actually uses PolicyKit, so maybe some setting there got changed
[17:28] <crunge> Dragnslcr: Okay, now I have some specific things to google. Thanks!
[17:29] <Dragnslcr> crunge- go to System Settings -> Advanced -> PolicyKit, then look under org.freedesktop -> PackageKit
[17:29] <Dragnslcr> Make sure each item has something like Admin Authentication for Active Console
[17:29] <apparle> Pavel__: then you can't say that its problem with your system.........its some software related issue...........put it on forums or  ask in #ubuntu or wait here maybe someone will help
[17:30] <Pavel__> apparle right.  I did find this though : http://www.kubuntuway.net/forum/showthread.php?t=342
[17:31] <crunge> Dragnslcr: I suspect it something as simple as creating an "admin" group in LDAP and adding my users
[17:31] <Pavel__> I keep forgetting that toggling classic and 9.04 launchers gives one more options
[17:35] <treble54> I'm currently using Ubuntu 8.10 (I would use 9.04 but 9.04 has my video card/driver blacklisted, and I prefer having the visual effects) and I'd like to switch to try out KDE 4.3
[17:35] <treble54> I think I've read somewhere that KDE 4.3 isn't coming out on any Kubuntu based distro until 9.10
[17:36] <treble54> which further makes me think only following these instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) won't get me to KDE 4.3
[17:36] <treble54> anyone know of a good guide that could show me how to get there on Kubuntu?
[17:36] <treble54> or even better, from ubuntu?
[17:37] <apparle> treble54: you can see this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[17:37] <James147> treble54: kde4.3 is availble for jaunty via backports (need to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list) but karmic will have it installed by default
[17:38] <apparle> but it will not be officially supported till karmic
[17:38] <treble54> will I be in some trouble if I want to stick with 8.10 until 9.10 comes out (or more specifically, when my video card/video card driver is removed from being blacklisted) ?
[17:39] <treble54> I'm hoping when Karmic comes out that my video card will not be blacklisted anymore
[17:40] <treble54> is there a running list somewhere of what video cards/drivers karmic has blacklisted?
[17:40] <treble54> (or at least, a list of blacklisted video cards/drivers for the visual effects)
[17:41] <treble54> or maybe its compiz?
[17:41] <James147> treble54: compiz isent used in kde4.x
[17:42] <treble54> ok well clearly I'm still learning a bit
[17:43] <treble54> but I have been shown in (at least) KDE 4.3 whatever used to be the "Visual Effects" options for Ubuntu is integrated into KDE 4.3's options
[17:43] <treble54> so I'm not exactly sure what the component is called
[17:43] <James147> treble54: kde4.x now uses its own internal compositiong system in kwin
[17:44] <James147> treble54: basicly replacing compiz
[17:44] <treble54> ok
[17:45] <James147> treble54: you could always try a live cd of karmic alpha or jaunty if you wanted to see if they work
[17:45] <James147> treble54: before installing them
[17:45] <treble54> hmm
[17:45] <treble54> well first
[17:46] <treble54> I'm trying to make sure whether or not my graphics card is still blacklisted
[17:46] <treble54> and lspci gives me:
[17:46] <treble54> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[17:46] <James147> treble54: what craphics card are you useing?
[17:46] <treble54> and I don't see that card listed here:
[17:46] <treble54> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist
[17:47] <treble54> only the 965
[17:47] <treble54> how do I get the PCID's like those listed on the blacklist link ?
[17:47] <treble54> err, PCI ID's*
[17:47] <James147> treble54: sounds like the one in my laptop :S just gona check, but effects do works on it in jaunty and karmic if it is
[17:47] <treble54> oh ok
[17:47] <treble54> thats good
[17:48] <treble54> when I tried installing Jaunty a few weeks ago, I could not get the graphics to work
[17:48] <treble54> but I did not try the steps listed on that link I just pasted
[17:48] <James147> treble54: do recomend a live cd (or usb) if you want to try it out though
[17:48] <James147> treble54: hmm, dont remember having to do anything spical to get it to work
[17:49] <Guest5507> do I include both the repositories when upgrading to kde 4.3
[17:49] <Guest5507> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu
[17:49] <James147> treble54: mines 965
[17:49] <Guest5507> and http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[17:49] <treble54> well thats good
[17:50] <treble54> how do I get the PCI ID's like those listed on the blacklist website?
[17:50] <James147> not sure :p
[17:50] <treble54> haha
[17:50] <treble54> ok
[17:51] <James147> treble54: need to do what this says to upgrade jaunty to 4.3 - http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[17:52] <apparle> I have a UPS which has stopped giving any backup...........can you suggest how to check the battery
[17:54] <James147> apparle: does linux know about the UPS?
[17:55] <apparle> James147: actually its not a smart UPS and what I am asking in offtopic but I couldn't find help anywhere else so I thought I would ask
[17:56] <Guest5507> why is the phonon package in kde 4.3.0 got the version number 4.3.1
[17:56] <tkesler> is there a openssh channel?
[17:56] <Guest5507> I think someone made a poo poo
[17:56] <apparle> what is vmware
[17:57] <James147> apparle: a virtual mechine suite
[17:58] <apparle> James147: is it open source?
[17:58] <James147> apparle: used for running different operating systems "virtually" inside a host OS
[17:58] <James147> dont think so
[17:58] <apparle> so any other virtual machine software which might be free
[17:59] <apparle> I mean just free to run..........I don't want to do anything with the source
[17:59] <bazhang> virtualbox-ose apparle
[17:59] <bazhang> apparle, they are free as in cost (ie vmware and non ose vbox)
[17:59] <apparle> bazhang: website?
[17:59] <bazhang> apparle, in the ubuntu repos
[18:00] <apparle> bazhang: what is ose...................and you mean vmware and vbox is free
[18:00] <bazhang> open source edition apparle (does not support usb though), the others are at their respective websites
[18:01] <apparle> bazhang: no USB support means??
[18:02] <bazhang> apparle, no usb support on the guest OS
[18:02] <Dragnslcr> apparle- if you have a relatively new CPU, you can just get kvm
[18:03] <apparle> Dragnslcr: I have Pentium D 2.8 GHz and 1.5 GB RAM
[18:04] <Dragnslcr> Can probably still try kvm, but I think it'll basically just fall back to qemu
[18:05] <Dragnslcr> kvm is designed to use the hardware virtualization that processors from the past 2-3 years have
[18:08] <jhutchins> Can someone tell me if the current i810 driver is or isn't broken?
[18:08] <apparle> Dragnslcr: its a dual core but 3.5 years old
[18:12] <Dragnslcr> apparle- Pentium D's might have it. Let me see what I can find
[18:16] <treble54> are Kubuntu and Ubuntu managed by the same company? or are they managed separately?
[18:17] <James147> treble54: same
[18:17] <treble54> ok
[18:17] <treble54> thought so, but wasn't sure
[18:17] <treble54> thats good
[18:17] <James147> treble54: and they both share the same repos so you can switch form one to the toehr easy (or ahve them both installed at once)
[18:17] <treble54> excellent
[18:18] <treble54> I think when I switch to the GA release of Karmic I'll make sure to have both installed
[18:18] <James147> treble54: kubuntu-desktop contains everything needed for kde ubuntu-desktop contains everything for the default ubuntu
[18:19] <Dragnslcr> apparle- run this in Konsole- more /proc/cpuinfo | grep -E 'svm|vmx'
[18:19] <treble54> kk
[18:19] <treble54> and I forget
[18:19] <treble54> since I'm on 8.10, am I even able to use KDE 4.3 without having to switch to Jaunty or Karmic beta?
[18:20] <James147> treble54: you probally can (compiling for source would work) but upgrading is the easiest way
[18:20] <jhutchins> treble54: Whether anybody can actually use 4.3 remains an open question.
[18:21] <treble54> lol
[18:21] <James147> jhutchins: useing 4.3 now, seems fine to me
[18:21] <shadeslayer> jhutchins: 4.3 rocks on Karmic
[18:21] <treble54> another friend of mine is using 4.3 and he says its given him no issues
[18:21] <jhutchins> shadeslayer: Yes, but can you actually do anything but play around with it?
[18:21] <Guest5507> I still can't logout on kde 4.3
[18:22] <Guest5507> it's weird
[18:22] <treble54> woah really?
[18:22] <treble54> thats odd
[18:22] <Guest5507> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7783675
[18:22] <Guest5507> I'm not the only one apparently... that walkaround doesn't work for me
[18:22] <shadeslayer> jhutchins: yeah,i just completed a article in python for my college magazine
[18:23] <shadeslayer> jhutchins: and i can browse the net and compile programmes etc,etc
[18:23] <James147> Guest5507: what happens when you try to login?
[18:25] <panic_> anyone able to send me an howto for mutt
[18:26] <Guest5507> login is fine
[18:26] <Guest5507> but my plasma desktop does not remember the session state (location of plasmoids on my desktop)
[18:26] <treble54> anyone here ever used STasks or Smooth Tasks ?
[18:27] <Guest5507> I'm on a dual monitor setup... that the only difference I can think of
[18:27] <Guest5507> it would not supprise me if they didn't compile the necessary dual monitor support into kde 4.3
[18:27] <James147> treble54: i have
[18:27] <treble54> James147: verdict?
[18:27] <Guest5507> I just can't logout
[18:27] <James147> Like them better then the default one
[18:27] <Guest5507> nothing happens
[18:27] <James147> treble54: smooth tasks worked better then stasks for me
[18:27] <treble54> which one do you prefer?
[18:28] <treble54> ok
[18:28] <James147> treble54: but dont really knotice any real difference detween them
[18:28] <treble54> and from what I've read on the Smooth Tasks project on kde-looks, it sounds like it consumes all of the stasks project and adds some extras?
[18:28] <treble54> oh interesting
[18:29] <James147> treble54: probally, there where quite a few different version of stasks about
[18:29] <treble54> I see
[18:29] <James147> Guest5507: i useing dual monitor in kde 4.3 useing nvida graphics
[18:30] <James147> Guest5507: try creating a new user and see if it works for them
[18:41] <sysop3> how do you stop konqueror from adding www to web addresses.
[18:41] <sysop3> it really screws up trying to view i2p sites.
[18:56] <carpii_> is there a good paint package for kde, preferably one which isnt called gimp?
[18:58] <Dragnslcr> Tried Krita?
[18:58] <carpii_> hm nop
[18:58] <carpii_> ill take a look, thanks
[18:59] <James147> kolourpaint4
[18:59] <James147> is probally a basic ms like paint program, but not sure
[19:00] <carpii_> ah yeah, i tried that. it has some really strange handling for laying down text
[19:02] <genii> sk1 is not bad but there is currently no package for it under (K)ubuntu
[19:07] <SandGorgon> does KDE 4.3 have effects like Mac OSX "Sheet" on Linux - where the popups stay attached to the window from which it was spawned?
[19:09] <jreinaldo> Hi, My "/tmp" folder isn't being cleanned no more. It was OK until yesterday. Where would I had some clue? There is some "log file" that I can discover the reason?
[19:09] <jreinaldo> I use kubuntu 9.04
[19:11] <Dragnslcr> SandGorgon- I don't think so. I think KDE (and maybe X itself) treats dialog windows as regular windows separate from the parent
[19:23] <Pavel__> how does one regain a system tray icon if it is gone from right clicking-quit?
[19:24] <Pavel__> (without deleting plasmarc & relogging in)
[19:26] <jussi01> Pavel__: which one? usually you start the application again...
[19:26] <Pavel__> jussi01 the printer status one
[19:27] <jussi01> Pavel__: that usually comes back when you print again...
[19:27] <Pavel__> (as in, documents in queue)
[19:27] <Pavel__> hrm... I've been having problems with a printer all day, so i'm trying to clear my pending jobs...
[19:28] <Pavel__> I got it to print a successful test page, but printing from openoffice has been tricky....
[19:31] <Pavel__> jussi01 I printed a successfull test page from printer configuration, but I've had trouble with printing all day and would like to see my qeued documents first
[19:32] <Pavel__> bucky hrm?
[19:32] <jussi01> Pavel__: Im not sure how to get that applet, however you can see the prin queue by looking at localhost:631 in your browser (just navigate to your prnter)
[19:33] <pelle_k> Hey people. I'm runnin' kde 4.3 from PPA. I'm used to dragging a jpg to the desktop to set it as wallpaper (or dragging it to the "preview monitor" on desktop settings in kde3). Any tips on how to do something similar, without navigating to the jpg, from the desktop settings "file chooser".
[19:36] <Pavel__> jussi01 that's a neat site, any others like it I should know about?
[19:40] <Pavel__> jussi01 right, so I was able to print a test page, and I have a document pending from openoffice, but the status of the printer has changed in 'printer configuration' to "unplugged or turned off" - which the printer is definitely not
[19:48] <pelle_k> Hey people. I used to drag a jpg to the "preview monitor", on desktop settings in kde3, to change wallpaper. Any tips on how to do something similar in kde 4.3. that it, drag and drop to change wallpaper, or something.
[20:14] <matt___> hi folks, im trying to setup a luks encrypted partition, using GDecrypt, but after i enter my passphrase twice, it fails saying 'Command failed: No key available with this passphrase.' anyone point me in the write direction?
[20:15] <j2daosh> hey all
[20:15] <j2daosh> im back :P
[20:23] <genii-2> jussi01: Anytime is good
[20:42] <liz_> hey room, is there a way to reset a printer? for some reason mine stopped working
[20:43] <k0pp> one might try the power button
[20:43] <liz_> that has already been done
[20:43] <houcine> bonsoir tout le monde.je cherche un logiciele pour prlever le temppérature du procésseur sous kubuntu
[20:45] <liz_> or can I reinstall the same printer again?
[20:45] <Daskreech> !fr
[21:00] <bieleke> hi guys, got a problem with my monitors
[21:00] <bieleke> i activated xinerama, but now my first monitor is second and my second is first, how can i switch that without screwing up everything ?
[21:01] <bieleke> so screen 0 needs to become screen 1 and screen 1 needs to become screen 0
[21:01] <bieleke> how do i do that ?
[21:06] <ubuntu> ayuda porfavor como puedo configurar una red lan en kubuntu
[21:06] <SonhadorPR> Question: How to manipulate the graphci equalizer in Amarok 2.1.1 Kubuntu 9.04?
[21:07] <SonhadorPR> ubuntu: usualmente se configuran solitas...exactamente cuál es el problema?
[21:07] <ubuntu> es que no se como configurar una red lan en kubuntu por que solo se usar windows
[21:08] <ubuntu> por ejemplo para crear un grupo de trabajo
[21:08] <SonhadorPR> ubuntu: como dije, usualmente se configuran solas. Lo que tienes que hacer es, cuando instales Kubuntu, en la parte derecha abajo de la barra, te saldrán las conexiones.
[21:09] <SonhadorPR> Es posible, que simple y sencillamente le tengas que decir que se conecte, después de haber hecho un scan.
[21:10] <bieleke> nobody for the swap of my screens ?
[21:10] <bieleke> for pro's like you guys that should not be an issue right ?
[21:12] <treble54> bieleke: could be that some people who know the answers are not looking at the channel
[21:12] <treble54> bieleke: if I knew the answer, I'd gladly help tho ^_^
[21:12] <bieleke> yeah, exact what i was thinking
[21:13] <bieleke> i should swap them in xorg.conf, but i ever did that but !@#$% up
[21:13] <bieleke> so want to do it right this time
[21:15] <treble54> bieleke: makes sense
[21:15] <bieleke> well in any case i backupped xorg.conf first :-) letś try
[21:15] <treble54> bieleke: I'm also here to make sure I do whatever I'm trying to do right as well
[21:15] <treble54> do it!
[21:15] <bieleke> see ya in a minute if ok :-)
[21:15] <treble54> lol
[21:15] <treble54> bieleke: don't blame me tho if it doesn't work
[21:16] <bieleke> no worries, then i put back backup and try again
[21:16] <bieleke> once it will work out :-0
[21:21] <treble54> bieleke: did it work?
[21:39] <xocolate> hello... someone brazilian?
[21:44] <xocolate> my wireless card is not setting IP ADDRESS correctly in manual mode... could somebody help me?
[21:45] <bieleke> Good
[21:46] <bieleke> that worked out after 5 reboots :-)
[21:46] <bieleke> in the software updates i got 4 blocked updates
[21:47] <James147> bieleke: in kpackagekit?
[21:47] <bieleke> kpackagekit ?
[21:47] <bieleke> well the windows is called Software updates :-)
[21:48] <bieleke> so not sure if that is kpackagekit
[21:48] <James147> bieleke: probally
[21:48] <bieleke> itś 5 years ago i was on kde :-)
[21:48] <James147> kpackagekit is new
[21:48] <bieleke> since ?
[21:48] <bieleke> i run kubuntu 9.04
[21:49] <James147> the blocked updates are updates that have a higher potential of breaking your system, ones that might remove other packages or such (or at least i think)
[21:49] <James147> simular to aptitudes safe-upgrade option i beleave
[21:49] <bieleke> all are linux headers
[21:49] <bieleke> so kernel
[21:50] <James147> yeah, dont know of a way kpackagekit can install them, but aptitude or apt-get will do it no problem
[21:50] <rhkfin> Hi there! Are there any config files available for irkick / kdelirc? It's a pain to configure even the default apps (like amarok, drakon..)
[21:51] <SonhadorPR> question: Is there a system-wide audio graphic equalizer?
[21:51] <SonhadorPR> for Kubuntu 9.04?
[21:51] <James147> SonhadorPR: dont think so yet. I dont think phonon supports eqs yet
[21:52] <James147> SonhadorPR: I know amarok is waiting for phonon to support it before they implment it
[21:52] <SonhadorPR> James147: Thanx for the info! That sucks! :/
[21:53] <scay> hi
[21:56] <James147> scay: hello
[21:57] <ryoo> ciao
[21:57] <ryoo> italiani?
[21:58] <matt___> hi
[21:58] <ryoo> hello
[21:58] <matt___> wat does this program do??
[21:58] <James147> this program? you mean irc?
[21:58] <matt___> yip??
[21:59] <matt___> instant messaging?
[21:59] <James147> matt___: For talking to ppl, this current channel you are in is for troubleshooting problems with kubuntu
[22:00] <matt___> ??
[22:00] <James147> matt___: If you have a problem with kubuntu or something related you can ask here and ppl will try to help you
[22:01] <matt___> i see thanks james
[22:01] <matt___> any1 experienced at QT designer??
[22:01] <James147> I know somethings
[22:02] <James147> matt___: what is it you are having trouble with?
[22:02] <matt___> iv created a project with multiple main windows but have no idea how to link them...
[22:03] <matt___> ie click a button and the current window closes then a new (different) one opens
[22:04] <offlooker> Could someone help me with something? After trying to get icculus' Quake 2 port to run (I advise against it, by the way) I somehow broke the sound system. Now if, say mplayer is playing or I'm watching a youtube vid, nothing else will make a sound
[22:04] <James147> matt___: join channel #qtdesigner can help you there
[22:07] <puff> Hi... friday I set up an ubuntu server install for a friend.  Then we added ubuntu-desktop and enabled xdmcp so he could log into it from an Xwindows emulator on a winbox.  Got it working fine, but he wanted kde, so I  kicked off "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and went home.
[22:08] <puff> Now he's switched it over to KDE and XDMCP isn't responding, something about GDM not enabled.
[22:08] <puff> That is, attemtping to connect via XDMCP isn't succeeding, giving him an error about GDM not being enabled.
[22:09] <puff> He KDE is not my strong point (neither is gnome, for that matter).
[22:11] <Lynn058> I need some help please. I am at myfriend house trying to fix her computer. she has a kubuntu 8.10 os and none of the usb ports are working. theoutcome of ls mcd | grep usb says it doesn't exist and i need to get them fixed does any onehave any ideas?
[22:12] <puff> During the install of kubuntu, he chose KDM instead of GDM.  However, he hadn't yet restarted. He had to change the static IP because of a conflict; xdmcp worked okay for that.  Then he rebooted and now he he can't get in via xdmcp.
[22:22] <Daskreech> Lynn058: How long has this happened?
[22:24] <bieleke> can't i update to FF 3.5 ?
[22:25] <Daskreech> puff: Enable GDM?
[22:25] <Daskreech> bieleke: Yes you can It's just not called FF 3.5
[22:25] <bieleke> Daskreech: how is it called then ?
[22:26] <Daskreech> Lynn904: I"m guessing you are Lynn058 updated?
[22:26] <Daskreech> !ff35
[22:26] <puff> I just had him install firestarter and start it up so he can check to see if the iptables are interfering.  Firestarter doesn't show anything in the policy tab;  can I safely assume that this means that the box is wide open?
[22:26] <Lynn904> yes
[22:26] <Lynn904> had to reboot computeras it had updates and wouldn't stop bugging me
[22:26] <Daskreech> puff: I think you just didn't setup KD Mfor xdmcp
[22:26] <Lynn904> so any ideas on my issue?
[22:26] <Daskreech> Lynn904: :-)
[22:29] <Lynn904> daskreech do you have any ideas on how tofix this issue?
[22:30] <puff> daskreech: He uncommented  some lines in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and and Xaccess.  Does he have to do something else?
[22:33] <Daskreech> puff: This is KDE3?
[22:33] <Daskreech> Lynn904: Not sure what's causing it seems like it's not picking up the USB controller which is strange
[22:34] <puff> Daskreech: This is jaunty 9.0.4, "sudop aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[22:34] <pickscrape> Hi, I'm hoping that someone can help me with a dependency problem on karmic alpha. I need to run mysql server 5.0, but akonadi-server is forcing me to 5.1.
[22:34] <Daskreech> puff: Then no. It's KDE4
[22:34] <puff> So if that installs kde4... ah, kde4., he says.
[22:34] <Daskreech> pickscrape: try #ubuntu+1
[22:34] <puff> So I: Oh, I see, typo when I mentioned kdmrc, sorry.
[22:34] <pickscrape> Daskreech: ok, thanks
[22:38] <Daskreech> puff: The fast fix is just flip back on GDM
[22:38] <Daskreech> Lynn904: How long has this happened?
[22:39] <Daskreech> Grrr
[22:43] <Lynn815> ok i really need somehelp with this. I can not get these usb ports to work on here. can not use mouse at all and tabbing around is really getting annoying. does anyone have any ideas?
[22:45] <Daskreech> Lynn815: How long has this happened?
[22:46] <puff> Daskreech:  sure, but does that mean he gets the gnome desktop when he connects?
[22:46] <Daskreech> puff: No just choose the KDE Session
[22:46] <puff> Ah... okay, then why change to kdm at all?
[22:47] <Daskreech> I think the only down side is that he has to logout before he can shutdown
[22:47] <puff> That is, what is he missing out on by using gdm?
[22:47] <Daskreech> KDM allows you to shut down from inside KDE
[22:47] <puff> Aha... okay, sholdn't be a problem.
[22:47] <Lynn815> this happened on saturday at some point. she said she used it saturday morning and then when she went back to use it saturday evening themouse moved one time andthen hasn't moved since
[22:47] <Daskreech> Lynn815: No reboot or anything it just didn't work?
[22:48] <Lynn815> we have tried rebooting it. we have even pulled the power plug from the back and it stillisn't working
[22:48] <Daskreech> Lynn815: heh Did you try booting into an older kernel ?
[22:49] <puff> Daskreech: Aside from "sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop" is there a fsater/easier way to turn gdm back on?
[22:50] <Daskreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure --alternati.. umm hold on
[22:50] <Lynn815> i can't boot into anythingelse. this is the only os on this computer
[22:51] <Lynn815> she had a power serge a fewmonths ago that wiped out her entire windows system and so thiswas installed on her computer asareplacement.
[22:52] <Daskreech> puff: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:52] <Daskreech> Lynn815: Wow. Was anything pluggd into the USB at the time?
[22:53] <Daskreech> Lynn815: Also do you have a CD burner there?
[22:53] <Lynn815> i'm not sure but like i said it was working until saturday night so i don't really know what has happened
[22:53] <Ritzerisk> if i wanted the UBUNTU live cd do i just download the regular release
[22:53] <treble54> anyone ever connected an external monitor/projector and then lost all their visual effects and can't turn them back on?
[22:53] <maco> Ritzerisk:  aye, the desktop cd
[22:54] <Lynn815> no this system can not burn cds
[22:56] <Daskreech> Ritzerisk: yes
[22:56] <Daskreech> treble54: Cannot turn them on?
[22:56] <puff> Daskreech: Awesome, thanks.
[22:57] <Daskreech> Lynn815: what does sudo lsmod say ?
[22:57] <treble54> Daskreech: well I had the default visual effects turned on and I've never attempted to connect to an external monitor or projector
[22:58] <treble54> Daskreech: as soon as I attempt to connect my laptop to a projector and change the settings to extend my desktop to it, it asked me about adjusting my settings with regards to the projector I think
[22:58] <Daskreech> treble54: but how did you try to turn them back on?
[22:58]  * Daskreech hands genii a cuppa
[22:58] <treble54> Daskreech: I first attempted to go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[22:59] <treble54> that brings up the error: "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[22:59] <Lynn815> well i can not see all of it so what am i looking for?
[22:59] <treble54> Daskreech: also, something else thats a little off is that I had five workspaces listed in the workspace applet on the lower application bar and now there are only 2
[22:59] <Lynn815> I can not scroll up in the box
[23:02] <treble54> Daskreech (or anyone else): any suggestions? the desktop visual effects were working just fine prior to adding the external display (a projector)
[23:06] <gjulian> treble54: Have you installed the drivers?
[23:07] <treble54> gjulian: no, the visual effects were working just fine before I added the external display
[23:07] <treble54> gjulian: I assume you mean drivers for my video card
[23:07] <gjulian> treble: I was meaning the drivers for the external display...
[23:08] <treble54> gjulian: no I did not do that
[23:09] <treble54> gjulian: but now the external display is disconnected and I still can't turn them back on
[23:09] <Daskreech> Lynn815: press pgUp
[23:10] <Daskreech> Lynn815: If you right click it and configure Desktops does it say 5 or 2 ?
[23:11] <Lynn815> pressing page up does not do anything
[23:11] <Daskreech> :-( Lynn815 Which IRC client?
[23:12] <treble54> gjulian: also, when I attempted to extend my desktop to the projector, it asked me something about adjusting my settings to that which conform to the projector's limitations or something .. I don't remember the exact wording so I could be off on the concept that it was trying to explain to me, but I do remember the keyword "virtual"
[23:12] <Lynn815> it doesn't show me anything in terms of desktops
[23:13] <sleepy_> hi all
[23:13] <Daskreech> Lynn815: The Desktop pager?
[23:13] <Lynn815> and i can not right click anything because my mouse doesn't work
[23:13] <sleepy_> anyone here know anything about tooltips in superkaramba?
[23:13] <Daskreech> Lynn815: Can you pastebin sudo lsmod ?
[23:14] <Lynn815> nope because i can not copy paste anything
[23:14] <treble54> I believe my questions should probably be directed at the #ubuntu channel now that I think about it
[23:14] <Daskreech> Lynn815: sudo apt-get install pastebint && sudo lsmod | pastebinit
[23:14] <Daskreech> it will give you a URL
[23:21] <Lynn> ok i can not get that to work at all. i can not copy paste anything and all i get is a long list of things that i can only see about eight or ten things
[23:21] <Lynn> on the list
[23:27] <Walzmyn> is "Partitionmanager" the latest, gratest version of what we're supposed to use for formatting drives?
[23:27] <treble54> Daskreech: I fixed my visual effects issue, I had to reconfigure xorg.conf
[23:28] <Ritzerisk> anyone ever messed with Vmware and wireless Nic
[23:29] <carpii_> in what respect ?
[23:33] <Ritzerisk> well i have a windows box .... and im wondering .. i vmware a ubuntu install but im trying to get wireless connection working on the ubuntu like directly using the Hardware of the wireless.... is that even possible
[23:34] <Kirbon> hello
[23:34] <Kirbon> empty room
[23:34] <oddnoggin> can't connect directly. have to bridge connections on the windows side
[23:35] <Kirbon> I'm running jaunty and my "apt-get update" has quit working, ...keeps giving a 404 error....but the repositories are there cause I can browse to them in ff have the URL's changed....cause it hasn't been moved to the old archives yet
[23:35] <carpii_> it depends, i think you can dedicate a certain usb device to the vm, but im not really sure why youd want to do it this way
[23:35] <carpii_> why not just bridge it ?
[23:36] <carpii_> kirbon, have ou checked /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[23:36] <Kirbon> yes, also copied one from a working laptop
[23:39] <Ritzerisk> well if i bridge it i dont have wireless settings does that mean i have to be virtual
[23:39] <Daskreech> Lynn: Did you install pastebinit ?
[23:40] <Daskreech> Lynn: did you install pastebinit ?
[23:41] <Kirbon> my apt-get update seemed to break after i installed nvidia drivers but have uninstalled them and is still broken
[23:42] <Lynn> i tried to and it said it did not exist
[23:45] <Lynn> does anyone have any ideas as to how i can reinstall usb drivers?
[23:46] <Kirbon> apt-get will work from other sites but "apt-get update" will not work from the ubuntu repositories and well the links do appear dead when browsing from ff, but I haven't changed anything in the sources.list file and even tried another copy from a working machine
[23:50] <Lynn> ok nothing is working does anyone know how to reinstall usb drivers?
[23:54] <Kirbon> apt-get is going to one repository URL but doesn't match, but my sources.list is correct and works on a different system. Have the repository directories been renamed in the past few days?  Here is the differences:
[23:54] <Kirbon> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-backports/universe/binary-i386/
[23:54] <Kirbon> http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/jaunty-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages
[23:54] <Kirbon> clearly different
[23:55] <Daskreech> Lynn: The USB drivers would be in the kernel. You can try install a new kernel and boot to it
[23:56] <Daskreech> Lynn: What I would suggest is to get a fedora or an OpenSUSE live CD and boot up the machine with it to see if the USB works
[23:56] <Daskreech>  It's possible the controller or the ports are fried
[23:56] <Ritzerisk> im trying to use tehe physical card of my wireless like get wireless exts to my iwconfig
[23:59] <Lynn> ok going to try now brb asap