vlad | I am all the way failing to create a bootable babbage sd card | 00:25 |
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vlad | either via the live image or manually | 00:25 |
vlad | hmm, I seem to have a rev1.1 babbage board, which I don't think is TO2 | 00:35 |
vlad | ah ha, fixed, great success | 00:37 |
anfrajim | hi | 05:59 |
anfrajim | hola | 06:01 |
anfrajim | holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 06:01 |
anfrajim | Enter text here...hola | 07:36 |
anfrajim | nadie aqui? | 07:36 |
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lvh | hi | 16:15 |
* kinkie is away: Stuff to do, people to see... | 16:51 | |
vlad | anyone know offhand what the i.mx51/babbage board ethernet driver is called? | 17:46 |
vlad | i'm not getting ethernet to come up at boot at all | 17:47 |
lool | vlad: Which Babbage version? | 17:47 |
lool | 1/2/2.5? | 17:47 |
vlad | that is a great question; my board says REV 1.1 on the bottom | 17:48 |
vlad | so i'm guessing 1? if not, where should I look? | 17:48 |
lool | vlad: How many SD card readers do you have? | 17:49 |
lool | on the board | 17:49 |
vlad | erm, just 1 | 17:49 |
vlad | (newer ones have more?) | 17:49 |
lool | It's a Babbage 1 | 17:49 |
lool | My babbage is down ATM; ISTR the driver is FEC | 17:49 |
lool | I guess it's probably in the defconfig | 17:50 |
vlad | no *fec* in /lib/modules/*31* | 17:50 |
vlad | ah, it's compiled into the kernel | 17:50 |
vlad | which is unfortunate, since it's not coming up.. hrm. | 17:50 |
lool | Yes it's built in | 17:50 |
lool | vlad: Do you get ethernet in the bootloader? | 17:50 |
vlad | good question.. let me reboot, the spam already scrolled off | 17:51 |
vlad | but I had ethernet before with the older kernel/bootloader (2.6.28-11 iirc) | 17:51 |
lool | Oh | 17:51 |
lool | and it went away with an Ubuntu upgrade? | 17:51 |
vlad | yeah, had to rebuild my SD card | 17:52 |
lool | That's odd | 17:52 |
lool | So how did you install the board to begin with? | 17:52 |
vlad | orginially-originally? image from freescale | 17:52 |
lool | Ah | 17:52 |
vlad | this time around via redboot-install | 17:52 |
vlad | using the non-TO2 redboot and a bit of hackery, but now i'm pretty sure I have a .31 image/initrd/etc. on flash | 17:53 |
lool | Ah so it's with .31 that you lose ethernet | 17:53 |
vlad | yep | 17:53 |
vlad | I can try downgrading to an earlier | 17:54 |
lool | Ok that's interesting | 17:54 |
vlad | make sure that it's not something else.. one min | 17:54 |
lool | vlad: That would help | 17:54 |
lool | vlad: It might be that we disabled the config in .31 because b2 uses another chip | 17:54 |
lool | In which case it would be trivial to just enable the b1 config | 17:54 |
lool | But I didn't look at the configs in detail | 17:54 |
Martyn | lool : wave | 17:55 |
lool | vlad: If you could check the delta between configs and see whether the proper driver is turned on, that would help | 17:55 |
lool | hey Martyn | 17:55 |
vlad | lool: will do | 17:55 |
vlad | gonna drop down to 2.6.28-15.49 | 17:55 |
lool | vlad: Then file a bug and ping us | 17:56 |
Martyn | lool : What's the right way, and the right person to go to, to get support on doing an arm v7 build? | 17:56 |
lool | vlad: Thanks! | 17:56 |
lool | Martyn: What do you mean? | 17:56 |
lool | You mean of Ubuntu? | 17:56 |
vlad | lool: oh, one more question -- anything special about rebuilding the kernel here? do you guys cross compile, or do you do it on target? | 17:56 |
Martyn | lool : Moving from v5 compiles to arm v7 compiles is now part of my 'critical path' at work. | 17:56 |
lool | Aha | 17:56 |
vlad | I need to enable CONFIG_NEON (any idea why that's disabled?) | 17:56 |
Martyn | vlad : Not all ARM processors have NEON | 17:56 |
vlad | Martyn: sure, but the i.mx51 does | 17:56 |
lool | Martyn: Critical path sounds like it's very urgent; I dont see any real quick solution really, but we can chat about other solutions if you like | 17:57 |
lool | vlad: it was disabled because it was unstable on imx51 | 17:57 |
Martyn | lool : Sure. It's pretty much reached a head due to the ARM summit in London. | 17:57 |
vlad | lool: hrm, that's unfortunate | 17:57 |
lool | It is; but it's only in some specific cases | 17:57 |
vlad | hardware problem with the chip? | 17:57 |
lool | Yes | 17:57 |
lool | Will be fixed in TO3 | 17:57 |
Martyn | lool : yep | 17:57 |
Martyn | er, that yep was for vlad. | 17:58 |
lool | Martyn: Shall we have a phone call? | 17:58 |
vlad | or is this the neon issue that arm released errata for, that I think mru or koen did a somewhat hacky workaround for? | 17:58 |
lool | Hmm I dont think so | 17:58 |
vlad | Ethernet mxc_fec: MAC address 00:00:00:00:00:00 | 17:58 |
vlad | yeah, redboot finds ethernet | 17:58 |
lool | I think the soc comes to a grinding halt when it meets some particular NEON sequence, that can be triggered from userspace so it's bad | 17:58 |
ogra | afaik NEON on the babbage 1 had HW issues | 17:58 |
lool | On Babbage 2 as well :) | 17:59 |
Martyn | lool : Sounds like a plan. | 17:59 |
lool | Martyn: number? | 17:59 |
Martyn | lool : I was going to say -- Skype or plain old telephone? | 17:59 |
lool | POST | 17:59 |
ogra | lool, oh ? i thought they were fixed for the 2.x series | 17:59 |
lool | It's free for me to call UK or US | 17:59 |
lool | ogra: Nope | 17:59 |
ogra | ah, k | 17:59 |
ogra | well, i'm happy to discover we have v7 buildds since today | 17:59 |
ogra | at least some progress | 18:00 |
vlad | lool: the ones I know of are http://git.mansr.com/?p=u-boot;a=commitdiff;h=b04e1838064abb06299b2ea3c504a25fde8c245c (Which has that workaround) and another (ARM 451034) which is fixed in cortex-a8 r1p3.. but supposedly that second one is super rare and has never been seen in any code | 18:01 |
vlad | lool: ethernet comes up fine with 2.6.28-15 -- will file | 18:06 |
vlad | lool: filed 418238 | 18:29 |
ogra | vlad, if you set a MAC addess in the redboot config, does it start working ? | 18:36 |
vlad | ogra: interesting | 18:41 |
vlad | ogra: how do I set a mac address in rb? I can try in a bit, doing a dist-upgrade to karmic currently | 18:41 |
ogra | run fconfig at the redboot prompt, make sure to make no changes apart from the hardware addess | 18:42 |
ogra | just make one up ... 01:23:45:67:89:.... | 18:43 |
vlad | nod | 18:43 |
vlad | is there a list of ports.ubuntu.com mirrors anywhere? (google isn't helping) | 18:43 |
vlad | not sure if it's just slow, or if i'm still getting the super slow ethernet on babbage issue | 18:43 |
ogra | there are no official mirrors | 18:43 |
ogra | if you have another machine on the same network, use approx on it and point the babbage to it | 18:44 |
ogra | (thats what i do for my image builds | 18:44 |
ogra | ) | 18:44 |
vlad | ogra: what's the best way to rebuild a kernel? on target, or cross compile? | 18:59 |
ogra | i do it on target, but i have a fast SATA system here | 19:00 |
ogra | for cross building, see: http://idlethread.blogspot.com/2009/01/recipe-of-day-cross-compiling-armel.html | 19:01 |
vlad | nod, i've got a kernel cross setup already, just wasn't sure if one was easier than the other | 19:09 |
vlad | I need to ask our IT guys to get me a SATA drive | 19:09 |
ogra | well, SATA on the babbage wont gain you much more than any fast USB drive | 19:12 |
ogra | my SATA disk is attached to a board with a real SATA adapter | 19:12 |
vlad | ah | 19:12 |
ogra | the babbage SATA is only a USB to SATA bridge | 19:12 |
vlad | that's unfortunate | 19:12 |
ogra | yes | 19:12 |
vlad | which faster box do you have? | 19:12 |
ogra | a dove board | 19:13 |
ogra | same CPU MEM specs but getting 60MB/s disk throughput makes quite a difference for development | 19:13 |
vlad | interesting.. are they commercially available? | 19:14 |
ogra | (vs the 16-20MB/s you can get on the babbage) | 19:14 |
ogra | not yet afaik | 19:14 |
ogra | but soon | 19:14 |
vlad | or even non-commercially | 19:14 |
vlad | ah, k | 19:14 |
vlad | we're trying to figure out what to build up our testing infrastructure on | 19:14 |
ogra | tlee2, btw, our ARMv7 buiuld machines are up, we should soon start to do v6+vfp builds | 19:15 |
* Meizirkki w00fs at vfp | 19:16 | |
ogra | well, we already have a libc-vfp since jaunty | 19:17 |
MarkG | Hi, anyone know a good LAN bandwidth testing app I can use on my SheevaPlug? | 19:30 |
MarkG | netio does not seem to be available and the plug does not have compile abilities | 19:30 |
ojn | MarkG: netperf? | 19:40 |
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vlad | in retrospect, I should have uninstalled packages that I just plain don't need before upgrading to karmic (such as openoffice or the two xulrunners) | 20:38 |
kblin | haha | 22:38 |
kblin | a simple tweak to ubuntu and my samba AD now gives out a kerberos ticket in 0.4s instead of 10 | 22:39 |
vlad | man, by the time my sd-card dist-upgrade to karmic finishes, it'll be time for another! :) | 23:05 |
kblin | sounds like gentoo | 23:09 |
kblin | ah, did I type that out? durn.. I need to think without moving fingers | 23:10 |
vlad | well, it's more that the network is slow and the sd card is slow | 23:26 |
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