[00:25] <vlad> I am all the way failing to create a bootable babbage sd card
[00:25] <vlad> either via the live image or manually
[00:35] <vlad> hmm, I seem to have a rev1.1 babbage board, which I don't think is TO2
[00:37] <vlad> ah ha, fixed, great success
[05:59] <anfrajim> hi
[06:01] <anfrajim> hola
[06:01] <anfrajim> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:36] <anfrajim> Enter text here...hola
[07:36] <anfrajim> nadie aqui?
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[16:15] <lvh> hi
[16:51]  * kinkie is away: Stuff to do, people to see...
[17:46] <vlad> anyone know offhand what the i.mx51/babbage board ethernet driver is called?
[17:47] <vlad> i'm not getting ethernet to come up at boot at all
[17:47] <lool> vlad: Which Babbage version?
[17:47] <lool> 1/2/2.5?
[17:48] <vlad> that is a great question; my board says REV 1.1 on the bottom
[17:48] <vlad> so i'm guessing 1? if not, where should I look?
[17:49] <lool> vlad: How many SD card readers do you have?
[17:49] <lool> on the board
[17:49] <vlad> erm, just 1
[17:49] <vlad> (newer ones have more?)
[17:49] <lool> It's a Babbage 1
[17:49] <lool> My babbage is down ATM; ISTR the driver is FEC
[17:50] <lool> I guess it's probably in the defconfig
[17:50] <vlad> no *fec* in /lib/modules/*31*
[17:50] <vlad> ah, it's compiled into the kernel
[17:50] <vlad> which is unfortunate, since it's not coming up.. hrm.
[17:50] <lool> Yes it's built in
[17:50] <lool> vlad: Do you get ethernet in the bootloader?
[17:51] <vlad> good question.. let me reboot, the spam already scrolled off
[17:51] <vlad> but I had ethernet before with the older kernel/bootloader (2.6.28-11 iirc)
[17:51] <lool> Oh
[17:51] <lool> and it went away with an Ubuntu upgrade?
[17:52] <vlad> yeah, had to rebuild my SD card
[17:52] <lool> That's odd
[17:52] <lool> So how did you install the board to begin with?
[17:52] <vlad> orginially-originally? image from freescale
[17:52] <lool> Ah
[17:52] <vlad> this time around via redboot-install
[17:53] <vlad> using the non-TO2 redboot and a bit of hackery, but now i'm pretty sure I have a .31 image/initrd/etc. on flash
[17:53] <lool> Ah so it's with .31 that you lose ethernet
[17:53] <vlad> yep
[17:54] <vlad> I can try downgrading to an earlier
[17:54] <lool> Ok that's interesting
[17:54] <vlad> make sure that it's not something else.. one min
[17:54] <lool> vlad: That would help
[17:54] <lool> vlad: It might be that we disabled the config in .31 because b2 uses another chip
[17:54] <lool> In which case it would be trivial to just enable the b1 config
[17:54] <lool> But I didn't look at the configs in detail
[17:55] <Martyn> lool : wave
[17:55] <lool> vlad: If you could check the delta between configs and see whether the proper driver is turned on, that would help
[17:55] <lool> hey Martyn
[17:55] <vlad> lool: will do
[17:55] <vlad> gonna drop down to 2.6.28-15.49
[17:56] <lool> vlad: Then file a bug and ping us
[17:56] <Martyn> lool : What's the right way, and the right person to go to, to get support on doing an arm v7 build?
[17:56] <lool> vlad: Thanks!
[17:56] <lool> Martyn: What do you mean?
[17:56] <lool> You mean of Ubuntu?
[17:56] <vlad> lool: oh, one more question -- anything special about rebuilding the kernel here? do you guys cross compile, or do you do it on target?
[17:56] <Martyn> lool : Moving from v5 compiles to arm v7 compiles is now part of my 'critical path' at work.
[17:56] <lool> Aha
[17:56] <vlad> I need to enable CONFIG_NEON (any idea why that's disabled?)
[17:56] <Martyn> vlad : Not all ARM processors have NEON
[17:56] <vlad> Martyn: sure, but the i.mx51 does
[17:57] <lool> Martyn: Critical path sounds like it's very urgent; I dont see any real quick solution really, but we can chat about other solutions if you like
[17:57] <lool> vlad: it was disabled because it was unstable on imx51
[17:57] <Martyn> lool : Sure.  It's pretty much reached a head due to the ARM summit in London.
[17:57] <vlad> lool: hrm, that's unfortunate
[17:57] <lool> It is; but it's only in some specific cases
[17:57] <vlad> hardware problem with the chip?
[17:57] <lool> Yes
[17:57] <lool> Will be fixed in TO3
[17:57] <Martyn> lool : yep
[17:58] <Martyn> er, that yep was for vlad.
[17:58] <lool> Martyn: Shall we have a phone call?
[17:58] <vlad> or is this the neon issue that arm released errata for, that I think mru or koen did a somewhat hacky workaround for?
[17:58] <lool> Hmm I dont think so
[17:58] <vlad> Ethernet mxc_fec: MAC address 00:00:00:00:00:00
[17:58] <vlad> yeah, redboot finds ethernet
[17:58] <lool> I think the soc comes to a grinding halt when it meets some particular NEON sequence, that can be triggered from userspace so it's bad
[17:58] <ogra> afaik NEON on the babbage 1 had HW issues
[17:59] <lool> On Babbage 2 as well :)
[17:59] <Martyn> lool : Sounds like a plan.
[17:59] <lool> Martyn: number?
[17:59] <Martyn> lool : I was going to say -- Skype or plain old telephone?
[17:59] <lool> POST
[17:59] <ogra> lool, oh ? i thought they were fixed for the 2.x series
[17:59] <lool> It's free for me to call UK or US
[17:59] <lool> ogra: Nope
[17:59] <ogra> ah, k
[17:59] <ogra> well, i'm happy to discover we have v7 buildds since today
[18:00] <ogra> at least some progress
[18:01] <vlad> lool: the ones I know of are http://git.mansr.com/?p=u-boot;a=commitdiff;h=b04e1838064abb06299b2ea3c504a25fde8c245c (Which has that workaround) and another (ARM 451034) which is fixed in cortex-a8 r1p3.. but supposedly that second one is super rare and has never been seen in any code
[18:06] <vlad> lool: ethernet comes up fine with 2.6.28-15 -- will file
[18:29] <vlad> lool: filed 418238
[18:36] <ogra> vlad, if you set a MAC addess in the redboot config, does it start working ?
[18:41] <vlad> ogra: interesting
[18:41] <vlad> ogra: how do I set a mac address in rb? I can try in a bit, doing a dist-upgrade to karmic currently
[18:42] <ogra> run fconfig at the redboot prompt, make sure to make no changes apart from the hardware addess
[18:43] <ogra> just make one up ... 01:23:45:67:89:....
[18:43] <vlad> nod
[18:43] <vlad> is there a list of ports.ubuntu.com mirrors anywhere? (google isn't helping)
[18:43] <vlad> not sure if it's just slow, or if i'm still getting the super slow ethernet on babbage issue
[18:43] <ogra> there are no official mirrors
[18:44] <ogra> if you have another machine on the same network, use approx on it and point the babbage to it
[18:44] <ogra> (thats what i do for my image builds
[18:44] <ogra> )
[18:59] <vlad> ogra: what's the best way to rebuild a kernel? on target, or cross compile?
[19:00] <ogra> i do it on target, but i have a fast SATA system here
[19:01] <ogra> for cross building, see: http://idlethread.blogspot.com/2009/01/recipe-of-day-cross-compiling-armel.html
[19:09] <vlad> nod, i've got a kernel cross setup already, just wasn't sure if one was easier than the other
[19:09] <vlad> I need to ask our IT guys to get me a SATA drive
[19:12] <ogra> well, SATA on the babbage wont gain you much more than any fast USB drive
[19:12] <ogra> my SATA disk is attached to a board with a real SATA adapter
[19:12] <vlad> ah
[19:12] <ogra> the babbage SATA is only a USB to SATA bridge
[19:12] <vlad> that's unfortunate
[19:12] <ogra> yes
[19:12] <vlad> which faster box do you have?
[19:13] <ogra> a dove board
[19:13] <ogra> same CPU MEM specs but getting 60MB/s disk throughput makes quite a difference for development
[19:14] <vlad> interesting.. are they commercially available?
[19:14] <ogra> (vs the 16-20MB/s you can get on the babbage)
[19:14] <ogra> not yet afaik
[19:14] <ogra> but soon
[19:14] <vlad> or even non-commercially
[19:14] <vlad> ah, k
[19:14] <vlad> we're trying to figure out what to build up our testing infrastructure on
[19:15] <ogra> tlee2, btw, our ARMv7 buiuld machines are up, we should soon start to do v6+vfp builds
[19:16]  * Meizirkki w00fs at vfp
[19:17] <ogra> well, we already have a libc-vfp since jaunty
[19:30] <MarkG> Hi, anyone know a good LAN bandwidth testing app I can use on my SheevaPlug?
[19:30] <MarkG> netio does not seem to be available and the plug does not have compile abilities
[19:40] <ojn> MarkG: netperf?
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[20:38] <vlad> in retrospect, I should have uninstalled packages that I just plain don't need before upgrading to karmic (such as openoffice or the two xulrunners)
[22:38] <kblin> haha
[22:39] <kblin> a simple tweak to ubuntu and my samba AD now gives out a kerberos ticket in 0.4s instead of 10
[23:05] <vlad> man, by the time my sd-card dist-upgrade to karmic finishes, it'll be time for another! :)
[23:09] <kblin> sounds like gentoo
[23:10] <kblin> ah, did I type that out? durn.. I need to think without moving fingers
[23:26] <vlad> well, it's more that the network is slow and the sd card is slow