[01:10] Help. For some reason, my Ubuntu installation is unable to go beyond 33% of partitions formatting for 2TB HDD. I'm wondering if I did something wrong. Maybe I'm supposed to set up RAID or something [01:15] leaf-sheep, RAID is only for multiple disk setups [01:15] and only in certain cases [01:15] what filesystem are you using? [01:15] I'm googling, but I'm not aware of any issues with drives that size. [01:16] 2TB is a lot of data, and would take a very long time to format in ext3 [01:16] how long did you let it set? [01:17] it took me the better part of an hour to format a one terabyte drive, but that was on an older PIII server. [01:17] I would guess 2TB would take about two hours to format in ext3, based on my experience in setting up my RAID [01:20] ext3 should be fine. max. vol. size depending on implementation is 2-16 TiB. and a 2 TB drive would not be 2 TiB, it'd be 2 trillion bytes, significantly smaller. [01:20] yeah, it just takes a while to format the drive [01:20] I have a 3.3TB RAID array [01:20] in ext3 [01:21] depends on blocksize, apparently. 1 KiB blocksize caps at about 2 terabytes. [01:22] yeah, I know the limit of a default ext3 setup is ~8TB [01:22] with 4 KiB blocksize, which is the max. on most platforms. [01:22] so that makes sense. [01:23] so either it just needs more patience... or it's a bad drive or controller. [01:23] I need to decide on a new filesystem to use, my array is full and I need to upgrade [01:23] right now the choices are reiser and ext4 [01:24] you can't stick with ext3? [01:24] only to 8TB, but if I upgrade I don't think that'll be big enough [01:24] ext4 is still a bit new for me. and reiser's future is in some doubt due to Herr Reiser's incarceration. [01:24] qman__: EXT4. [01:24] ahh. [01:25] I trust ext3 [01:25] I don't trust XFS [01:25] the others are up in the air [01:25] xfs is relatively unstable on a regular basis [01:26] ext4 is the future for ubuntu [01:26] although you may want to be aware of some options that ensure secure journaling [01:26] which aren't default in ubuntu afaik [01:26] It's not just formatting. See, when I started the installation process... to the point of formatting and setting up disks to my likings, it'll start right away at 33% and idling -- but I can't be certain of background activities for 2TB is a large HDD. [01:26] leaf-sheep: you can go to the console [01:26] and look at activity [01:26] via iostat, etc [01:27] looks like ZFS is an option too [01:27] leaf-sheep, the progress bar doesn't show the formatting process [01:27] or, if you're physically at the machine, obviously looking at the HD/CD activity will tell you if something's going on [01:27] it's divided up into how many partitions you have [01:27] so if you have a /boot, /, and swap [01:27] giovani: Console? I came in here because I know people in here maintain servers all times (lot of HDDS). [01:27] ZFS support in linux isn't significant [01:27] so it's logical it would sit there on a large partition [01:28] I'm setting this up for HTPC. [01:28] leaf-sheep: understood -- but you can switch into the console during installation and check for yourself if it's active [01:28] ...one of my lines didn't show up [01:28] since you were unclear if it was actively writing to the disk [01:28] if you have a /boot, /, and swap [01:29] /boot is 33%, / is the next 33%, swap is the final 33% [01:29] qman__: depending on the disk order, no? [01:29] even if /boot is a few megs, / is almost 2TB, and swap is a gig [01:29] yes [01:29] 100MB boot, Encryption --> LVM --> [2GB swap, 10GB root, Remaining for home] [01:29] oh, you're using LVM [01:29] that's why [01:29] and encryption :) [01:30] it'll probably take about two hours to do the LVM [01:30] Encryption, indeed. ;) [01:30] then a while for the encryption [01:30] nah, it shouldn't take that long [01:30] I just did a new 1.5TB drive on LVM [01:30] took 10-15 min [01:30] wow [01:30] that's quick [01:30] but yeah, the process is generally slow, just let it do its thing [01:30] and ... why speculate [01:30] if it's not done in a few hours, then something's wrong [01:30] just check yourself if there's disk io [01:30] there's no need to wait and guess [01:31] Oh I'm installing Ubuntu Minimal from USB -- Would that cause issues? [01:31] not during disk partitioning [01:31] no [01:31] shouldn't. [01:31] why are we still speculating? [01:31] There are no official minimal usb other than UNR. [01:32] leaf-sheep: please switch into the console and run iostat [01:32] this is will answer your question [01:32] Is it possible to obtain "Release file" for my local apt-mirror? Getting base packages from official us.archive.ubuntu.com is long. I set up apt-mirror because I'm sick of waiting for packages and get failed installation every time. [01:33] I usually skip networking during the install to speed things up [01:33] giovani: I'm getting jaunty usb. Somehow I ended up with karmic version. [01:33] then update later [01:33] leaf-sheep: sure ... set up your sources.list -- and it'll work [01:33] leaf-sheep: that's not good -- karmic is not stable at all [01:34] giovani: I know. I clicked at the bottom and I assumed it was Jaunty. :< [01:34] but yeah, setting up 2TB that way is a slow process, and the progress bar does not indicate how far along each step is, just to which step you're at [01:35] Yeah, but to start off at 33% right away? [01:35] normal [01:35] your 100MB boot partition takes a split second [01:35] leaf-sheep: have you not been listening to what qman__ has been explaining? [01:35] also [01:35] I suggest you up that to about 256MB [01:36] you'll run out of room for kernel updates [01:36] just my opinion though [01:36] 100MB is standard, and fine, imo [01:36] why would you need more than 3-4 back kernels? [01:36] you don't, but it keeps them automatically [01:36] sure [01:36] it's just an annoyance [01:36] but by that logic, presuming you upgrade to every offered one ... you'll run out in short order anyway [01:37] I agree to make it bigger, you won't miss 156 MB of disk space and it saves hassles if you don't punctually delete old kernels. [01:37] not critical. but convenient. [01:37] heh [01:37] but then he'll just run out later [01:37] same process, different timing [01:37] significantly later. [01:37] yeah, but you don't have to clean out the old kernels as often [01:37] 1.5 times longer [01:37] 2.5. [01:37] no, 2.5 total [01:37] giovani: I'm putting it on usb... almost done. [01:37] 1.5 longer [01:37] 256/100 = 2.56 actually. [01:37] anyway [01:38] 3 hours is 3 times as long as 1 hour, not 2 times as long. [01:38] qman__: I checked my laptop kernels where I kept them. It's in total of 46MB. 3 or 4 kernels there. [01:38] PhotoJim: but it's 2 times longER [01:38] 3 times AS lon [01:38] long* [01:38] "times" = multiplication. [01:39] yes [01:39] by definition. [01:39] longER [01:39] implies in addition to [01:39] you're using it wrong. [01:39] I'ce got only one kernel on my router [01:39] 256% as much time, but 156% additional, if you must. [01:39] /boot is using 24M [01:40] like I said, 100M is enough, it's just my preference to use 256 [01:40] won't miss that extra space and updates are less annoying that way [01:40] my /boot hasn't been cleaned out in awhile, 64 MB [01:40] that's only 5 kernels. [01:41] oldest April 1/09. [01:41] giovani: What did you say about iostat? I'm at install prompt. Do you mean for me to start a VT in boot process afterward? [01:42] leaf-sheep: I meant to go into the console during the installer, since you're curious what it's doing [01:42] you can do a ps aux [01:42] or if you have iostat you can run that [01:42] and both will make it clear what the installer is doing, if it's doing anything, or if it's hung [01:42] Console? That's CTRL + ALT + F[1-6] we're talking? [01:42] just alt [01:42] control is only necessary if you're in X [01:42] alt-f2 or f3, i forget which is which [01:42] in the installer [01:42] Okay. I'll set up everything right to the 33% part. [01:43] this lack of experimentation and hand-holding will get old quickly [01:44] giovani: Meaning I can set up /etc/apt/sources.list to my localmirror although I tried different mirror which lacks Ubuntu Release File (something) for verification? [01:45] I guess not. Now it's getting all packages from server... again. [01:46] We'll sit tight. Please don't go anywhere. I'm frustrated and would love to get this done with. I have been trying this all night (last night) to this morning. Fell asleep. Woke up and I'm at it again. :) [01:54] how tf, i must port forward with UFW , I HATE it :( [01:55] heh [01:56] port forwarding with iptables takes four lines per port forward [01:56] I've got a nice loop in my script that reads from a file [01:56] HellMind: ufw does not support port forwarding with the command line interface. Please read the man page for what it supports. You may use iptables-restore style rules in /etc/ufw/before.rules to achieve anything iptables can do. See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html for details [01:57] I hate that [01:57] HellMind: patches are welcome [02:00] my patch will be rm -fr ufw [02:01] HellMind: you are free to use any firewall application you wish. if ufw does not suit your needs, try another listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html [02:02] Im using 8.04 [02:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html [02:03] stop pasting that [02:03] *8.04* [02:03] its the same doc -_- [02:04] is it possible to create a VM with two virtual hard disks in python-vm-builder? [03:08] New bug: #293548 in gvfs (main) "can't save file in samba share (dup-of: 286828)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293548 [04:18] Hi there, I have a ubuntu domain member with samba and is working fine for a while but lost the connection...the users can't see the samba folder and i need to restart the server to them can see again... [04:18] somebody know what can be the problem? [04:35] hi, somebody know if a have a domain member server which lost the connection with the domain server every 5 hours, what could be the problem? [04:58] rosa: I'm not at all an expert on SAMBA domain stuff, but look at the samba log files for clues. If necessary, turn up samba logging so you get more info in the logs to work from. [04:59] i am not sure if the problem is that but i am getting this error: winbindd: Exceeding 200 client connections, no idle connection found [05:00] OK, sounds like you need to configure samba to allow more simultaneous winbindd client connections :) [05:04] I wonder if Ubuntu-Server.iso would benefit me more for pure XBMC edition -- with occasional samba and cups sharing, even its being a torrentbox? [05:05] leaf-sheep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What%27s%20the%20difference%20between%20desktop%20and%20server? [05:07] jmarsden: I'm looking for something of minimal disc with at least all packages for ubuntu-minimal with it. Minimal disc itself retrieve packages from the Internet. [05:08] jmarsden: I'm wondering if Server edition is what I'm looking for... as I'm sick of failed attempts and having to retrieve all packages from Internet more than 10 times. :| [05:08] Can't you do a minimal install from the "normal" Desktop install CD? [05:09] jmarsden: HPTC does not have cdrom. I'm doing this from Ubuntu and by Desktop install CD, it'll install full ubuntu-desktop. [05:10] Alternate CD, I think, not Desktop. [05:10] PhotoJim: It still installs ubuntu-desktop. [05:10] I'll play in a VM... [05:10] Basic server install is a lot smaller than a desktop install [05:10] Does Server edition installer supports LVM + Encryption? [05:11] LVM, yes. I know this for sure. [05:12] leaf-sheep: I'm reasonably sure it has the option of doing a very basic installation. if you can't get Ubuntu to do that, I know you can do that with Debian. so it would surprise me that you couldn't with Ubuntu. [05:14] jmarsden, do you know how i can do that? [05:14] PhotoJim: I'm confidently sure that alternative disk is same as desktop disk minus the GUI, and plus the lvm + encryption. That's all. I use it many times -- but yeah, they should prompt tasksel by default (and that's in minimal disc). [05:14] I think I'll remaster one in the future for ubuntu-minimal as default packages instead of ubuntu-desktop in the future for USB. [05:15] leaf-sheep: alright. can't say I've done it, so I'll defer to your experience. [05:15] * leaf-sheep says future twice... Silly me. :< [05:16] * leaf-sheep gets server edition because he's certain that ubuntu-minimal is installed by default. [05:20] The alternative CD ought to be identical to the desktop CD in the set of packages installed. [05:21] The difference is chiefly debian-installer vs. ubiquity + live CD [05:21] rosa: No... try googling that error message [05:21] However the differences between ubuntu-server and alternative are the set of packages cached on the CD (so they don't have to be downloaded), and the tasksel and locale packages installed by default. See the preseed/ directory on the server CD. [05:22] There's no fundamental reason why you couldn't install either desktop or server using e.g. the mini.iso [05:22] rosa: Maybe try the ideas in http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/06/02/tips-and-tricks-i-get-the-error-winbindd-exceeding-200-client-connections-no-idle-connection-found/ [05:26] Looks like the 200 is a compiled in value, see http://fixunix.com/samba/348340-samba-winbindd-exceeding-200-client-connections-no-idle-connection-found.html for some discussion. [05:26] twb: Slow network. I'm trying to install a HTPC from laptop (bridged). [05:26] leaf-sheep: HTPC? [05:26] It takes awhile to get a base installation. (Need a long cable to my room). [05:27] twb: Yes. Home Theater PC> === johe__ is now known as johe [05:28] thanks, the weid is i dont have 200 users...that mean connectios? but still i think i dont more than 200 connetions [05:29] See the RedHat article for how to get it to list the connections... [05:34] thanks i will check it [05:48] l [06:40] can I somehow refresh the list in /dev/disk/by-label ? [06:41] Well, a reboot will most likely do that :) [06:41] Probably umount and the mount of the volumes concerned would also do it. [07:12] hi somebody know where i can configurate it ?WINBINDD_MAX_SIMULTANEOUS_CLIENTS ? [07:24] sombody here? [08:13] New bug: #343738 in vsftpd (main) "vsftpd max username length too small" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343738 [08:13] good morning [08:17] ttx: Any idea what might be causing this? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30714354/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.eucalyptus_1.6%7Ebzr452-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [08:18] soren: looking [08:18] It's during the java build, where it errs out with a: [08:18] [ERROR] Unexpected internal compiler error [08:18] java.lang.StackOverflowError [08:18] soren: strange, it built on lpia [08:19] even stranger, the GWT stuff in compiled arch:all [08:19] hm? [08:19] * ttx compares build logs, just a sec [08:23] soren: that's strange... This should behave the same whatever the arch, it's some java compile and even the JARs used are arch:all [08:23] soren: so apart from a i386-specific openjdk-6 issue... [08:24] * soren is tempted to just retry the build [08:25] soren: that idea crossed my mind as well :) [08:25] but first, I'll see if I can reproduce it locally. [08:25] soren: could you reproduce it ... [08:25] you read my mind [08:25] soren: hmm. http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73875 [08:29] soren: If you can reproduce it locally, I'll PPA this fix in GWT so that you can confirm it fixes the issue: http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/source/detail?r=5262 [08:29] ttx: So... Do I need to patch gwt or can I just pass the greater stack size during the eucalyptus build? [08:29] * soren tries it locally now. [08:29] The first solution is the fix, the second solution is the dirty workaround [08:30] * soren nods [08:30] the fact that the error triggers only on i386 tends to prove you're at the trigger limit anyway [08:30] since there is probably nothing arch-specific tere [08:30] there [08:35] soren: let me rephrase, the second solution is not a dirty workaround. It's perfectly acceptable [08:35] soren: current GWT uses more stack than it should. Increase stack size to make it compile is perfectly ok. [08:36] soren: not sure you have easy access to JVM parameters in the build though... so fixing GWT so that it's leaner might be a better solution. [08:37] ttx: Well, there's an ant xml snippet in that extjs thread.. I just don't know where to put it. [08:37] ttx: Could you try sticking that gwt patch in your ppa? [08:37] sure, I'm on it [08:37] I could not reproduce it locally, by the way. [08:38] * soren tries it again, just for kicks. [08:38] heh, sounds like retrying the build might work, then :) [08:39] soren: could you file a quick bug against GWT, so that I reference the fix ? [08:39] sure. [08:41] soren: Is there any point in PPAing it, if you can't test the fix locally ? [08:42] bug #418022 [08:42] Launchpad bug 418022 in gwt "GWT builds use too much stack space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418022 [08:43] ttx: Well... I could try uploading it to my ppa to test it. [08:43] ok [08:43] ttx: To be honest, at this point, I don't see any particular reason to be so careful. [08:43] ttx: Just upload it, I'll retry the build, and we'll see how it goes. [08:43] ok [08:44] We've got plenty of time to fix stuff . [08:44] It succeeded again locally, it seems. [08:44] Yup, just finished. [08:45] ttx: Ok, it seems only axis2c and rampart are missing MIRs. [08:46] I'll see if I can get someone to file it for me. I'd like to get crackin' on the Elasticfox thing. [08:46] * twb wonders when -server became -devel [08:46] or -motu or whatever [08:46] twb: It always was :) [08:47] twb: Up until a couple of years ago, it was /only/ about server development. [08:47] Ha [08:48] twb: we just don't use the channel as much as we should. [08:48] twb: We've just not been very good at using it for development stuff. [08:48] Heh :) [08:53] soren: your fix is in. [08:55] yes use it for development then i can scam off all the knowledege [08:55] Use it for development to fix all my pet issues, even better! ;) [08:56] so any services use upstart with karmic ? [08:58] hi there, i want to upgrade my version 8.04 to 9.xx..is possible to do easy or i need to install and configurate everything again? [08:59] roxy09: upgrading in-place is a well-supported model. [08:59] Unlike those RHEL idiots... [09:00] jaja [09:00] sorry haha (in english) [09:00] what is the command to upgrade to the last version? [09:00] <\sh> roxy09: do-release-upgrade ? [09:00] twb: it's possible on RHEL, just not commonly done :) [09:01] thanks :) [09:01] mattt: it's not SUPPORTED on RHEL [09:01] roxy09, just did it few days ago from 8.04 to 8.10 and then to 9.04 worked like a charm :) [09:02] thou one thing confuzed me, is 9.04 lts ? [09:02] <\sh> kwork: nope [09:02] !lts | kwork [09:02] kwork: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04). The next LTS release is scheduled to be 10.04 [09:02] ah okey then no confuzion [09:04] my problem is i am not sure if the bugs that have 8.04 is solved in the 9.04 or i will have more problems with this version? [09:04] you need to consult launchpad on that [09:04] find your bug id and see where its fixed [09:04] or whats the bug status [09:04] i have samba bugs [09:04] im not bug database [09:05] i need to install the vesrion 3.4 [09:05] search the db [09:05] !llaunchpad [09:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about llaunchpad [09:05] !launchpad [09:05] Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [09:05] !bug tracker [09:05] !bug [09:05] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [09:06] dont stress!!! i asked u before u said that... [09:09] no stress here yet :P [09:26] somebody know how i can replicate and configurate ldap server? [09:27] i mean condigurate a ldap backup server [09:45] roxy09: "configure" [09:46] yes [09:51] somebody know how i can configure a ldap backup server? [09:58] hi i try to change the version to 8.04 to 9.04 but i cant, somebody know the command...i try before with do-release-upgrade [10:12] somebody know why i can upgrade my version, when i do old me i have the last version but still i have the 8.04 [10:13] <\sh> do-release-upgrade -d [10:13] <\sh> brb [10:19] morning, [10:20] SSH has suddenly stopped/crashed on a Lenny server of mine, of which is 200 miles physically away from me. I have zero access to this server now, as even the Dell Remote Access Controller has given up (given XML parse errors). Is there any way you can think of that I can purposely crash this server to get it to restart? [10:20] sorry it's non-ubuntu, thought there would be someone with a clever idea, though no worries if it's off-topic I'll leave it [10:21] AlexC_: call your colo guy and get him to kick it [10:22] see, thing is - the keys to the server are also sitting to my left :P [10:22] AlexC_: even the power cable? [10:22] thanks sh, do you know how long take it? [10:22] twb, true, true - that'd work [10:23] AlexC_: or maybe serial cable to a box they have that you CAN ssh into and run screen /dev/ttyS0 on [10:23] also, if i do that what happen with my kubuntu ? [10:24] twb, will have to see if they can do that. I'm not even sure if our guy will be in the area today, if not - any sane way of crashing it? [10:25] AlexC_: is it running PHP? [10:26] twb, yes, though scripts are running as their own user - and the downside to me being security concious, there are no exploits that I could use to bring it down [10:26] AlexC_: none you know of, anyway [10:26] ;) [10:28] roxy09: do-release-upgrade is roughly the same as the graphical upgrade, and the time depends mostly on the number of packages you have installed [10:29] And the number of updates, and the speed of the mirror [10:32] :) thanks a lot mates! [10:35] meanwhitle...i am having another problem with amavis is using a lot of CPU, somebody know about that? [10:39] Isn't that amavis' job? [10:43] yes, but 99% od the CPU and stop the job of the mail services [10:48] ttx: ..rebuilding eucalyptus on i386. [11:03] ttx: \o/ [11:35] hi somebody know what devecop does? [11:37] Hallo roxy09 did you mean dovecot? [11:38] yes [11:38] i am upgrading ubuntu, should keep the conf files or let upgrade the files? [11:38] dovecot is a IMAP server [11:40] roxy09 i make a backup from my configuration files en then let the files upgrade but that's up to you [11:53] hi i am getting error with spammassasin...when i do restart show me doesn find some files, i try to reinstall but still the problem, show me cant find some lib with perl [12:39] hi there, i am having problme to retsart my spamassasin aplication, i got the error: Can't locate MLDBM/Sync.pm [12:40] install the lib ? [12:40] or perl module even [12:44] which one...i try to instal MLDBM but said i have the last one [12:46] http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/CHAMAS/MLDBM-Sync-0.30/Sync.pm === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams [13:31] hi i got some problem with amavis-new is ussing s lot of CPU, somebody know about this problem? [13:48] giovani, qman__ PhotoJim: Yoohoo. It's just me and installer's lack of feedback. I tried it again and watch few shows. Came back and it was done. Lulz. ;3 [13:59] :S I cahnge my version to ubuntu 9.04 and now samba doesn't run... [14:00] you should really get people to upgrade your box who knows what they are doing :P [14:00] and on the subject i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 -> 9.04 and my samba works just fine [14:04] thanks !!! [14:05] #samba ? :D [14:06] New bug: #418117 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.5.5-1.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418117 [14:17] could someone look at 416970? [14:17] but 416970 [14:17] lol... bug 416970 [14:17] Launchpad bug 416970 in openais "Please sync openais 1.0.0-3 (main) from Debian experimental" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416970 [14:19] im getting this error: final write to client failed: Broken pipe [14:19] somebody know about that? === bogeyd6_ is now known as bogeyd6 [15:12] Hi. Anyone know how I replace a faulty hard drive? Im using HP proliant G3 with 6 hotswap scsi drives in each. One gone faulty [15:12] garymc, are you using mdadm? [15:12] i wouldnt know? [15:12] well unless youre using some kind of raid i don't know what to tell you [15:13] how would i know. what is mdadm [15:13] ? [15:13] mdadm is linux's built in software raid [15:13] garymc: on a machine like that you should have someone to hand who knows about these things. [15:13] Are you responsible for the care and feeding of this beast? [15:13] yep, would should could, cant afford them [15:14] so trial and error for me [15:14] garymc, well normally i would agree w/ the "trail and error" method [15:14] ...I hope it's nothing mission-critical then. [15:14] but its very hard to help someone whom is not familiar w/ the system in question [15:15] but if its not mission critical ill try to help [15:15] cool [15:15] it aint mission critical yet [15:15] Hello [15:16] so need to know how to do it for when it is [15:16] see my hard disk was displaying a red light on the bay. so normally means some sort of fault [15:17] I took it out put another in its place system didnt work [15:17] so replaced the faulty disk back in the bay restarted the server [15:17] The the machine continue to run when you pulled the drive? [15:17] No i shut it down first [15:17] garymc, do you know if you are using any kind of raid or LVM [15:17] when i restarted it said press F1 to recover hard disk, i did and now no light showing a fault [15:18] Can someone help me with scanner sharing using sane? I'm using 9.04 and the scanner can already be found in the network, but when I try to access it using xsane or scanimage as a client, I always get the message that the Access has been denied. [15:18] garymc: when you powered it back up, did the RAID controller tell you it was rebuilding the array? [15:18] Im using RAID 5 [15:18] ball: no it never [15:18] Ball: it said recover hard disk data or something [15:18] garymc: when you power on, do you see a message to the effect of "hit F8 for RAID configuration"? [15:18] Zerosan, is the scanner setup to allow remote connections [15:18] (may be some other key than F8) [15:19] yes [15:19] Faust-C: yes it is, .... wait [15:19] i do [15:19] Zerosan, also check the logs and see what they say [15:19] garymc: did you press that key? [15:19] with new hard drive in? [15:19] cat /var/log/syslog | grep sane says that access to my client has been granted [15:19] "cat /var/log/syslog | grep sane" [15:20] i did with new hard drive in and it said there where no configured logical drive did i want to create one [15:20] garymc: yes, power down the system, insert the new hard disk, power the system on and hit that key to enter the RAID Array setup program [15:20] ok i did that and (ABOVE) is what it said [15:20] Faust-C: "cat /var/log/syslog | grep sane" tells me that the access has been granted to my client [15:20] garymc: you may have lost all the data on your array then, unless someone set it up to use software RAID for some reason. [15:20] I then shut down server and put faulty one back in. I thought maybe that would have killed the whole system [15:21]