[01:45] <N-S> How can I install a more recent (beta/unstable) version of a program?
[10:52] <turtle_> anyone rolling with koffice?
[10:55] <Guest21111> Hello, I need some advice
[10:56] <Besogon> asc
[10:56] <Guest21111> What's the shortcut command to open the application menu?
[10:57] <Besogon> I don't know
[10:59] <Guest21111> Found it. It's /usr/bin/xfce4-popup-menu
[14:04] <alienkid10> how my friends windows SYSTEM registry hive is corrupt or missing and they are me fix it, but they want their data backed-up so I employed Ubuntu for the job. Unfortunately the NTFS partition is "in use" and I am unsure if forcing it to mount would cause more damage. So if I force it would it cause more damage?
[14:07] <TheSheep> you can back up the whole disk with dd
[14:07] <TheSheep> without having to mount it
[14:07] <alienkid10> I can mount the partition
[14:07] <alienkid10> and I don't have storage for 100GB of info
[14:08] <alienkid10> would forcing it cause more damage?
[14:14] <alienkid10> would?
[14:14] <alienkid10> * would it?
[14:18] <alienkid10> gtg
[16:10] <wilsonj> anyone know how I could go about changing my default filemanager?
[21:21] <S0210> Is there a way to figure out the original file name of the pictures in .tumbnails?
[21:27] <Hezy> S0210: that's an interesting qustion
[21:33] <SiDi> S0210, i dont think you can
[21:43] <S0210> Hmmm... are they created by the thunar?
[21:45] <Hezy> S0210: I'm not an expert, but I understand that they can be imported from the camera itself, or get made by any app
[21:47] <Hezy> I think that the xfce thumbnail infrastructure is being rewritten right now, so whatever you find might not be true in the near future
[21:53] <SiDi> S0210, yeah, but there is no way that i know to retrieve an image with the current system
[21:53] <SiDi> XFCE 4.8 will come with a new lib for thumbnail manipulation, with which there will be ways to do this
[21:54] <SiDi> (developers ways, though)
[21:54] <Hezy> you should look for a general way to do it, not in xfce
[21:55] <SiDi> Well, i think the current pictures names are generated by a hash of the location of the original picture
[21:55] <SiDi> so you cant find the original location from the hash
[21:59] <SiDi> Hezy, S0210 i asked an XFCE dev and he said that the image should contain the location of the original file in its metadata
[22:02] <S0210> SiDi: thank you
[22:22] <omniplatform> I got problems with 9.10 Alpha 3 installed via wubi.  When I boot and select xubuntu, the screen goes black and it resets itself
[22:30] <SiDi> omniplatform, this looks like a X crash
[22:30] <SiDi> what if you boot xterm ?
[22:30] <SiDi> And did you try Ubuntu ? Does GNOME boot ?
[22:32] <omniplatform> ahhh, no Gnome isn't installed, just xubuntu with xfce
[22:32] <omniplatform> I don't get the chance to boot xterm, I don't think.  from the windows OS selector, I select xubuntu then it immediately reboots
[22:33] <SiDi> I meant from the login manager
[22:33] <SiDi> So it crashes before login ?
[22:33] <SiDi> (the alpha 4 is out, by the way :P)
[22:34] <omniplatform> yes, long before login (oh I think it is alpha 4 after all)
[22:35] <omniplatform> trying it again (i'm chatting using a different 'puter than the one I'm trying to fix)
[22:36] <omniplatform> OK, I get "Please select the operating system to start:" then the two options, WinXP Home and Xubuntu
[22:37] <SiDi> Okey, this is the windows bootloader, since you installed with Wubi
[22:37] <omniplatform> it displays something really fast, then turns off. I'll try again to pause it at the message
[22:38] <omniplatform> it says "Try hd" something or other before turning off
[22:38] <omniplatform> "Try (hd0,0): NTFS5
[22:38] <SiDi> Ok, i think the bootloader entry is doing something wrong, or it does things right and then grub2 does something wrong :/
[22:38] <SiDi> you should ask for a similar issue in #ubuntu+1
[22:39] <SiDi> if noone can confirm, then i suppose you'll have to get the whole message and report a bug against Ubuntu Karmic in https://bugs.launchpad.net
[22:40] <omniplatform> The message i see very briefly(after the "Try hd...) and cannot seem to pause in time says something about memory
[22:42] <omniplatform> also says something about "type help"
[22:42] <omniplatform> ok, I'll try to take this over if I don't get more info