| sbalneav | Nope. | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| Lns | that'll be another can 'o worms I guess ;) | 00:02 |
| alkisg | Heh. No big harm there. Anyway, late here, g'night all... | 00:03 |
| Lns | But it basically just depends on the app itself right? | 00:03 |
| Lns | night alkisg ! | 00:03 |
| sbalneav | Night alkisg | 00:03 |
| Lns | I mean, if you're running FF as a localapp only, it's not like you're not going to be able to connect via vnc..? | 00:03 |
| Lns | s/vnc/vino | 00:04 |
| Lns | sbalneav: about to get yer hardy version of sabayon | 00:09 |
| sbalneav | ok | 00:13 |
| sbalneav | We'll see if it works. | 00:13 |
| sbalneav | I'm betting no. | 00:13 |
| Lns | sbalneav: sabayon: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0) but 2.12.9-3ubuntu5 is to be installed || Depends: python (>= 2.6) but 2.5.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 00:17 |
| Lns | bork bork bork | 00:17 |
| sbalneav | yeah. I'm gonna have to re-build the package from scratch, somehow. | 00:19 |
| sbalneav | not sure how this is going to work. | 00:19 |
| Lns | sbalneav: no worries, i'll be here once it's ready to test =) | 00:21 |
| sbalneav | Well, BUILDING the package is no problem. | 00:22 |
| sbalneav | getting it published to my ppa may be. | 00:22 |
| sbalneav | Working on it now. | 00:22 |
| sbalneav | Anyone know packaging? | 01:07 |
| sbalneav | Here's the situation. | 01:07 |
| sbalneav | On hardy, In order to get sabayon working, I need to: | 01:07 |
| sbalneav | from the base upstream tarball, I need to patch configure.ac, and then rerun autoconf before running configure. | 01:08 |
| sbalneav | how do I go about doing that? | 01:08 |
| dgroos1 | Hi all-- | 03:25 |
| dgroos1 | I'm trying to completely remove all traces of iTALC from my computer before I reinstall it. | 03:26 |
| dgroos1 | I "apt-get purge italc" and then libitalc. | 03:27 |
| dgroos1 | then, I did "locate italc" and got a ton of files with italc in the name still. So... I tried to remove each one (or the specific directories containing just italc stuff) with sudo rm /file/path/name. There were some files | 03:29 |
| dgroos1 | that were shown on locate, lots of them, that when I tried to remove them, didn't seem to exist! what's going on? | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | locate doesn't update immediately | 03:35 |
| dgroos1 | Ah, Right! I bet there's a command which I'll dig up... | 03:38 |
| dgroos1 | sudo updatedb | 03:42 |
| dgroos1 | sbalneav: you've got a PPA, can you answer this? I've got basically it all removed--just the ppa.launchpad.net stuff remains. I've got 4 files in /var/lib/apt/. Here are the ends of the filenames (which distinguish them)... | 03:57 |
| dgroos1 | jaunty_Release and jaunty_Release.gpg and jaunty_main_binary-i386_Packages and jaunty_main_source_Sources. Do I need all 4? | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | yes | 04:00 |
| dgroos1 | thanks :) | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | You should have a lot more in there | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | keyrings lists mirrors periodic etc | 04:00 |
| dgroos1 | got a little happy w/ sudo rm did I? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | Yup | 04:01 |
| dgroos1 | maybe I get rid of it all, reinstall sources and keys--work? | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | And, of course, you SAVED A BACKUP BEFORE YOU STARTED BLINDLY REMOVING THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE, right? :) | 04:01 |
| sbalneav | I have no idea, you've probably hosed apt pretty badly. | 04:02 |
| dgroos1 | Hmmm... wish I had a wider repertoire of smiley faces... | 04:02 |
| sbalneav | There's a ton of stuff in there. | 04:02 |
| dgroos1 | I only removed things that specifically had the name italc in them... | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | best you can hope for is to do an apt-get update, see if it works. | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | well, if you don't have keyrings, lists, mirrors, etc | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | in that dir | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | then you removed more than you thought you did. | 04:03 |
| dgroos1 | OK-- got it, make lots of backups... tonite... | 04:03 |
| sbalneav | what does apt-get update do? | 04:04 |
| dgroos1 | those 4 files (and their duplicates in the /opt/ltsp/i386/ were the only things left in my updated 'locate' list. | 04:04 |
| dgroos1 | seems to work--got 99% and is [waiting for headers] | 04:05 |
| dgroos1 | looks like you got your sabayon update in your PPA :) | 04:08 |
| dgroos1 | It worked :) | 04:08 |
| dgroos1 | hmmm... at the 9:58 comment I made, should have said "there are only 4 things left in my locate database that have the word italc in them and they are located in /var/lib/apt/" not, "I've only got 4 files left in /var/lib/apt/" So sorry for the confusion! And thanks for reminding me about back ups, I need to do nightly!!! | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | I'm a sysadmin by trade. Any system mods I do start out with 1) a backup 2) another backup 3) Yet another backup | 04:23 |
| dgroos | iTALC... sweet success! After weeks of effort, it works! | 05:23 |
| dgroos | The trick was the removing of EVERY trace of iTALC from my system before a fresh reinstall. | 05:23 |
| dgroos | and now to a backup :) | 05:23 |
| alkisg | Good morning | 07:20 |
| jamil | afternoon | 07:36 |
| highvoltage | good {morning,afternoon} alkisg and jamil :) | 07:48 |
| === nubae_ is now known as Nubae | ||
| ace_suares | hi | 14:47 |
| highvoltage | hi ace_suares and alkisg! | 14:56 |
| highvoltage | ace_suares: we missed you | 14:56 |
| alkisg | Hi highvoltage, hi all | 14:56 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | Morning ace! | 14:59 |
| sbalneav | Good to see you back. | 14:59 |
| dgroos | Good morning all | 15:21 |
| mhall119|work | hey ace_suares | 15:21 |
| dgroos | and to see you back, ace_suares :) | 15:22 |
| dgroos | too | 15:22 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: around? | 16:43 |
| BenCrisford | Hello fellas | 16:49 |
| sbalneav | Hello Ben | 16:50 |
| sbalneav | Long Time No See | 16:50 |
| === vorian is now known as OldSchool | ||
| Suhadi | Hi, Is there something like a tutorial or installtion guide for setup a thien client Server for a classroom with edubuntu 9.04? | 18:29 |
| Lns | Suhadi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall might help | 18:31 |
| Lns | For thin clients under *buntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ is the wiki with the most information regarding how to "do things" | 18:32 |
| Suhadi | ah okay thanks so far | 18:33 |
| Lns | np | 18:33 |
| Suhadi | I just tried to set up a server on a VM | 18:33 |
| Suhadi | and wanted to install all the edubuntu stuff | 18:33 |
| Lns | Suhadi: well Edubuntu != LTSP | 18:34 |
| Lns | (not anymore) | 18:34 |
| Suhadi | yeah i installed LTSP from alternate CD and than Edubuntu | 18:34 |
| Lns | ah | 18:34 |
| Suhadi | but it didnt install all the teacher stuff like student-control-üanel | 18:35 |
| Suhadi | is that normal? | 18:35 |
| Suhadi | panel not üanel ^^ | 18:35 |
| Lns | Suhadi: student control panel is VERY old and unstable | 18:45 |
| Lns | I am actually working with others to bring it to a stable state..should be happening soon. BTW it's now called "Thin Client Manager".. check out http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php#projectthin_client_manager_tcm | 18:45 |
| Suhadi | yeah i installed it, but y doesnt edubuntu istalled this stuff? So there is no student controlling | 18:47 |
| Suhadi | So this is only a desktop version of edubuntu or am i wrong? | 18:47 |
| Lns | Suhadi: it wouldn't be of much use because the code is broken | 18:48 |
| Suhadi | yeah or an alternative... | 18:48 |
| Lns | there is no alternative yet :) | 18:48 |
| Suhadi | this is not good :D | 18:48 |
| Lns | but there are 2 major programs being worked on that will be ready soon (within a month or two maybe) | 18:48 |
| Lns | Suhadi: well you can try iTalc | 18:48 |
| Lns | I heard some people have gotten that working | 18:49 |
| Lns | check the wiki link i sent you | 18:49 |
| Suhadi | okay i will do because this edubuntu stuff is very interesting | 18:49 |
| Lns | Suhadi: cool, glad to see you like it =) come back here, there's usually someone here or in #ltsp if you need thin client help to help you out | 18:52 |
| Suhadi | Yeah, it makes me a sad panda, when i see that only few school (and companies) use OS like edubuntu | 18:54 |
| === OldSchool is now known as they | ||
| highvoltage | sbalneav: am now | 19:28 |
| sbalneav | Cool. | 19:28 |
| sbalneav | OK | 19:29 |
| sbalneav | So, sabayon | 19:29 |
| sbalneav | I'm going to try tonight to get a karmic build in my ppa | 19:29 |
| sbalneav | Once it's there, what needs to happen to get it pushed up to main for feature freeze on Thursday? | 19:29 |
| ogra | just give it to me | 19:34 |
| ogra | but its important that you use the existing karmic package as a base | 19:34 |
| ogra | and just replace the tarball, if there are ubuntu specific changes, you need to merge them properly | 19:35 |
| ogra | so read the changelog | 19:35 |
| sbalneav | ok | 19:36 |
| ogra | sbalneav, looking at the last two uploads that should be straightforward, there were no ubuntu changes | 19:37 |
| ogra | both packages had -0ubuntu1 versions | 19:38 |
| sbalneav | ok, so should I produce a 2.27.91-0ubuntu2~ppa2 based off the 2.27.0-0ubuntu1 in karmic? | 19:48 |
| Lns | ogra to the rescue =) | 19:49 |
| highvoltage | ogra: would you be able to give me a testimonial for my MOTU application? stgraber said I should go for it. | 20:12 |
| ogra | sbalneav, right, just add your new tarball, if you do additional changes or patches, mention them | 21:19 |
| sbalneav | k | 21:23 |
| Lns | stgraber: ping? Do you have any update for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/+bug/277069 re: hardy sru? | 21:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277069 in libxcb "Slow performance with remote X applications (java, firefox/xul, etc.)" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:27 |
| ace_suares | Hi | 21:34 |
| ace_suares | I *was* reading the irclogs fellows :-) not much happened except for the last week or so, with sabayon and italc stuff. | 21:35 |
| ace_suares | I am just dormant till friday | 21:35 |
| ace_suares | I want that meeting so badly :-)0 | 21:35 |
| stgraber | Lns: not really, seems to be stuck somewhere in the SRU process | 21:50 |
| Lns | stgraber: :( | 21:50 |
| sbalneav | ace_suares: Well, glad to see you're back. We were thinking you'd floated away :) | 22:00 |
| sbalneav | ace_suares: Best is to stay idle in the channel. What irc client do you use? | 22:02 |
| Lns | ace_suares: ! =) | 22:03 |
| nubae_ | stgraber! been looking for u for a while now... I've installed ltsp-cluster under karmic | 22:03 |
| nubae_ | but there was a problem with the loadbalancer | 22:03 |
| nubae_ | cant remember what it was off the top of my head now though, it was a while ago, I wrote u an email or a couple about it | 22:04 |
| stgraber | I know the loadbalancer is broken | 22:09 |
| stgraber | my goal before FF is to have everything in Ubuntu, I'll fix that soon | 22:09 |
| ace_suares | hi all, sbalneav yourself was far away for a long while... but happy to see you back | 22:10 |
| ace_suares | thx for all the welcoming words :-) | 22:10 |
| ace_suares | Lns hi | 22:10 |
| sbalneav | I was away for a few months. But people were notified :) | 22:10 |
| ace_suares | Can't stay on IRC all the time, need to reboot the computer every time :-) | 22:10 |
| sbalneav | Which IRC client do you uuse? | 22:11 |
| ace_suares | sbalneav: whatever thing comes with ubuntu. It's ugly and brown :-) | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | Use irssi | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | Then you can run it under screen. | 22:12 |
| sbalneav | it's text-based, but that's what makes it useful. | 22:13 |
| Lns | hehe | 22:13 |
| Lns | sbalneav: lol | 22:13 |
| sbalneav | so you can "screen irssi", do your chatting | 22:13 |
| sbalneav | control-a d to detach | 22:13 |
| Lns | yanqui uses erc (emacs irc client) | 22:13 |
| sbalneav | then if you're somewhere else, but can ssh into your main box, you can just screen -r to resume. | 22:14 |
| ace_suares | screen? isn't that that thing that keeps all your sessions open and then someone hijakcs it and they are in all your servers? | 22:14 |
| Lns | I like Xchat just because i'm not always on the shell...damn clients have me doing all sorts of normal person stuff all the time | 22:14 |
| Lns | ace_suares: screen is a beautiful thing :) | 22:14 |
| sbalneav | yeah, any text based irc client will work well for that. | 22:14 |
| sbalneav | ace_suares: wha? | 22:14 |
| ace_suares | just kiddin around | 22:15 |
| ace_suares | got stuff to do | 22:15 |
| sbalneav | Don't we all. | 22:15 |
| ace_suares | will be at the meeting, I calculated that it is 13:00 GMT-4 (EST). I hope that is correct | 22:16 |
| ace_suares | I need input on the wiki to do more work, and i have been idling all that time, well, doning other stuff. | 22:16 |
| ace_suares | Now off to the beach> Did anyone hear about curacao treasure hunt? | 22:17 |
| ace_suares | Someone just won 500.000 USD last night I saw her win it was very interesting. | 22:17 |
| ace_suares | bye for now! | 22:17 |
| Lns | wow | 22:18 |
| * Lns would like $500k plsthxkbye | 22:18 | |
| Ahmuck-Sr | hey ho, how is edubuntu today? | 22:56 |
| sbalneav | Still kicking | 23:03 |
| === they is now known as vorian | ||
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