[00:01] Nope. [00:02] that'll be another can 'o worms I guess ;) [00:03] Heh. No big harm there. Anyway, late here, g'night all... [00:03] But it basically just depends on the app itself right? [00:03] night alkisg ! [00:03] Night alkisg [00:03] I mean, if you're running FF as a localapp only, it's not like you're not going to be able to connect via vnc..? [00:04] s/vnc/vino [00:09] sbalneav: about to get yer hardy version of sabayon [00:13] ok [00:13] We'll see if it works. [00:13] I'm betting no. [00:17] sbalneav: sabayon: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0) but 2.12.9-3ubuntu5 is to be installed || Depends: python (>= 2.6) but 2.5.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [00:17] bork bork bork [00:19] yeah. I'm gonna have to re-build the package from scratch, somehow. [00:19] not sure how this is going to work. [00:21] sbalneav: no worries, i'll be here once it's ready to test =) [00:22] Well, BUILDING the package is no problem. [00:22] getting it published to my ppa may be. [00:22] Working on it now. [01:07] Anyone know packaging? [01:07] Here's the situation. [01:07] On hardy, In order to get sabayon working, I need to: [01:08] from the base upstream tarball, I need to patch configure.ac, and then rerun autoconf before running configure. [01:08] how do I go about doing that? [03:25] Hi all-- [03:26] I'm trying to completely remove all traces of iTALC from my computer before I reinstall it. [03:27] I "apt-get purge italc" and then libitalc. [03:29] then, I did "locate italc" and got a ton of files with italc in the name still. So... I tried to remove each one (or the specific directories containing just italc stuff) with sudo rm /file/path/name. There were some files [03:29] that were shown on locate, lots of them, that when I tried to remove them, didn't seem to exist! what's going on? [03:35] locate doesn't update immediately [03:38] Ah, Right! I bet there's a command which I'll dig up... [03:42] sudo updatedb [03:57] sbalneav: you've got a PPA, can you answer this? I've got basically it all removed--just the ppa.launchpad.net stuff remains. I've got 4 files in /var/lib/apt/. Here are the ends of the filenames (which distinguish them)... [03:59] jaunty_Release and jaunty_Release.gpg and jaunty_main_binary-i386_Packages and jaunty_main_source_Sources. Do I need all 4? [04:00] yes [04:00] thanks :) [04:00] You should have a lot more in there [04:00] keyrings lists mirrors periodic etc [04:01] got a little happy w/ sudo rm did I? [04:01] Yup [04:01] maybe I get rid of it all, reinstall sources and keys--work? [04:01] And, of course, you SAVED A BACKUP BEFORE YOU STARTED BLINDLY REMOVING THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE, right? :) [04:02] I have no idea, you've probably hosed apt pretty badly. [04:02] Hmmm... wish I had a wider repertoire of smiley faces... [04:02] There's a ton of stuff in there. [04:03] I only removed things that specifically had the name italc in them... [04:03] best you can hope for is to do an apt-get update, see if it works. [04:03] well, if you don't have keyrings, lists, mirrors, etc [04:03] in that dir [04:03] then you removed more than you thought you did. [04:03] OK-- got it, make lots of backups... tonite... [04:04] what does apt-get update do? [04:04] those 4 files (and their duplicates in the /opt/ltsp/i386/ were the only things left in my updated 'locate' list. [04:05] seems to work--got 99% and is [waiting for headers] [04:08] looks like you got your sabayon update in your PPA :) [04:08] It worked :) [04:16] hmmm... at the 9:58 comment I made, should have said "there are only 4 things left in my locate database that have the word italc in them and they are located in /var/lib/apt/" not, "I've only got 4 files left in /var/lib/apt/" So sorry for the confusion! And thanks for reminding me about back ups, I need to do nightly!!! [04:23] I'm a sysadmin by trade. Any system mods I do start out with 1) a backup 2) another backup 3) Yet another backup [05:23] iTALC... sweet success! After weeks of effort, it works! [05:23] The trick was the removing of EVERY trace of iTALC from my system before a fresh reinstall. [05:23] and now to a backup :) [07:20] Good morning [07:36] afternoon [07:48] good {morning,afternoon} alkisg and jamil :) === nubae_ is now known as Nubae [14:47] hi [14:56] hi ace_suares and alkisg! [14:56] ace_suares: we missed you [14:56] Hi highvoltage, hi all [14:58] Morning all [14:59] Morning ace! [14:59] Good to see you back. [15:21] Good morning all [15:21] hey ace_suares [15:22] and to see you back, ace_suares :) [15:22] too [16:43] highvoltage: around? [16:49] Hello fellas [16:50] Hello Ben [16:50] Long Time No See === vorian is now known as OldSchool [18:29] Hi, Is there something like a tutorial or installtion guide for setup a thien client Server for a classroom with edubuntu 9.04? [18:31] Suhadi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall might help [18:32] For thin clients under *buntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ is the wiki with the most information regarding how to "do things" [18:33] ah okay thanks so far [18:33] np [18:33] I just tried to set up a server on a VM [18:33] and wanted to install all the edubuntu stuff [18:34] Suhadi: well Edubuntu != LTSP [18:34] (not anymore) [18:34] yeah i installed LTSP from alternate CD and than Edubuntu [18:34] ah [18:35] but it didnt install all the teacher stuff like student-control-üanel [18:35] is that normal? [18:35] panel not üanel ^^ [18:45] Suhadi: student control panel is VERY old and unstable [18:45] I am actually working with others to bring it to a stable state..should be happening soon. BTW it's now called "Thin Client Manager".. check out http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php#projectthin_client_manager_tcm [18:47] yeah i installed it, but y doesnt edubuntu istalled this stuff? So there is no student controlling [18:47] So this is only a desktop version of edubuntu or am i wrong? [18:48] Suhadi: it wouldn't be of much use because the code is broken [18:48] yeah or an alternative... [18:48] there is no alternative yet :) [18:48] this is not good :D [18:48] but there are 2 major programs being worked on that will be ready soon (within a month or two maybe) [18:48] Suhadi: well you can try iTalc [18:49] I heard some people have gotten that working [18:49] check the wiki link i sent you [18:49] okay i will do because this edubuntu stuff is very interesting [18:52] Suhadi: cool, glad to see you like it =) come back here, there's usually someone here or in #ltsp if you need thin client help to help you out [18:54] Yeah, it makes me a sad panda, when i see that only few school (and companies) use OS like edubuntu === OldSchool is now known as they [19:28] sbalneav: am now [19:28] Cool. [19:29] OK [19:29] So, sabayon [19:29] I'm going to try tonight to get a karmic build in my ppa [19:29] Once it's there, what needs to happen to get it pushed up to main for feature freeze on Thursday? [19:34] just give it to me [19:34] but its important that you use the existing karmic package as a base [19:35] and just replace the tarball, if there are ubuntu specific changes, you need to merge them properly [19:35] so read the changelog [19:36] ok [19:37] sbalneav, looking at the last two uploads that should be straightforward, there were no ubuntu changes [19:38] both packages had -0ubuntu1 versions [19:48] ok, so should I produce a 2.27.91-0ubuntu2~ppa2 based off the 2.27.0-0ubuntu1 in karmic? [19:49] ogra to the rescue =) [20:12] ogra: would you be able to give me a testimonial for my MOTU application? stgraber said I should go for it. [21:19] sbalneav, right, just add your new tarball, if you do additional changes or patches, mention them [21:23] k [21:27] stgraber: ping? Do you have any update for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/+bug/277069 re: hardy sru? [21:27] Launchpad bug 277069 in libxcb "Slow performance with remote X applications (java, firefox/xul, etc.)" [Undecided,In progress] [21:34] Hi [21:35] I *was* reading the irclogs fellows :-) not much happened except for the last week or so, with sabayon and italc stuff. [21:35] I am just dormant till friday [21:35] I want that meeting so badly :-)0 [21:50] Lns: not really, seems to be stuck somewhere in the SRU process [21:50] stgraber: :( [22:00] ace_suares: Well, glad to see you're back. We were thinking you'd floated away :) [22:02] ace_suares: Best is to stay idle in the channel. What irc client do you use? [22:03] ace_suares: ! =) [22:03] stgraber! been looking for u for a while now... I've installed ltsp-cluster under karmic [22:03] but there was a problem with the loadbalancer [22:04] cant remember what it was off the top of my head now though, it was a while ago, I wrote u an email or a couple about it [22:09] I know the loadbalancer is broken [22:09] my goal before FF is to have everything in Ubuntu, I'll fix that soon [22:10] hi all, sbalneav yourself was far away for a long while... but happy to see you back [22:10] thx for all the welcoming words :-) [22:10] Lns hi [22:10] I was away for a few months. But people were notified :) [22:10] Can't stay on IRC all the time, need to reboot the computer every time :-) [22:11] Which IRC client do you uuse? [22:12] sbalneav: whatever thing comes with ubuntu. It's ugly and brown :-) [22:12] Use irssi [22:12] Then you can run it under screen. [22:13] it's text-based, but that's what makes it useful. [22:13] hehe [22:13] sbalneav: lol [22:13] so you can "screen irssi", do your chatting [22:13] control-a d to detach [22:13] yanqui uses erc (emacs irc client) [22:14] then if you're somewhere else, but can ssh into your main box, you can just screen -r to resume. [22:14] screen? isn't that that thing that keeps all your sessions open and then someone hijakcs it and they are in all your servers? [22:14] I like Xchat just because i'm not always on the shell...damn clients have me doing all sorts of normal person stuff all the time [22:14] ace_suares: screen is a beautiful thing :) [22:14] yeah, any text based irc client will work well for that. [22:14] ace_suares: wha? [22:15] just kiddin around [22:15] got stuff to do [22:15] Don't we all. [22:16] will be at the meeting, I calculated that it is 13:00 GMT-4 (EST). I hope that is correct [22:16] I need input on the wiki to do more work, and i have been idling all that time, well, doning other stuff. [22:17] Now off to the beach> Did anyone hear about curacao treasure hunt? [22:17] Someone just won 500.000 USD last night I saw her win it was very interesting. [22:17] bye for now! [22:18] wow [22:18] * Lns would like $500k plsthxkbye [22:56] hey ho, how is edubuntu today? [23:03] Still kicking === they is now known as vorian