[00:06] hey folks, I need some help installing my bootloader. [00:07] I have an arch linu installation on my USB drive, and need to use kubuntu's live cd to install grub, as I forgot to do that during the arch installation. [00:09] oh well, I got to get out of here and find some answers, this has been going on way to long, going elsewhere....Adios [00:09] I agree [00:09] tons of people here, none helping [00:11] ok found a mouse that works through the back plug so lets try this copy paste thing again [00:12] Lynn279: \0/ [00:12] what is the sudo command again [00:12] wait. so the other mouse doesn't work in the same port? [00:12] this is one that plugs in lie the keyboard does [00:12] sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lsusb | pastebinit [00:13] but the usb ports doesn't work [00:13] WACOMalt: you mean grub? [00:13] Ah it's PS2 mouse [00:13] ok [00:14] sudo lsmod | grep usb usbcore 149616 3 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd [00:16] Daskreech: yeah, grub. [00:16] !grub | WACOMalt [00:16] WACOMalt: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [00:16] Lynn279: So USB is loading up === vanRijn_ is now known as vanRijn [00:16] I didnt lose it after installing windows though. The pc it's on has only linux, and OSx86 [00:16] Lynn279: You say none og the ports work [00:16] thank you though, will try that. [00:17] WACOMalt: It'll work just the same you just won't get a Windows entry [00:17] thats right. it shows that it has power butnothing else [00:17] ok cool [00:17] thank you much! [00:17] Lynn279: And this happened out of the blue while using the machine [00:18] Daskreech: will I need to change anything since I am using arch_64 rather than kubuntu? or will the bootloader work either way as long as it's on the right drive? [00:18] WACOMalt: Grub doesn't care about arch That would be the kernel which kicks in after grub [00:19] that what I figured. Cool, thanks very much [00:19] yep my friend was online saturday morning and saturday evening she moved the mouse and then it froze in one place and has been like that ever since. she tried moving it to all the different usb ports and also bought a new mouse thinking it was the mouse [00:20] Lynn279: But getting power from it is strange too. [00:20] yea when i plug in the mouse the light turns red for a moment but doesn't work [00:20] Lynn279: My first test would be to grab a Fedora or OpenSUSE CD as I said and see if USB works there [00:20] If it doesn't then it's quite likely the port or the chipset is done [00:21] and her speakers work which is plugged into a usb for power purposes [00:21] Actually if the chipset is done then that would explain why power coems through [00:22] If those work then I would guess that you need a new kernel but I can't explain why it would stop working without a reboot or any changes. That doesn't make sense [00:22] so how do you fix the chipset issue? [00:22] i tried to usethe cd and it can not seem to read it [00:22] i don't even want tofigure thison out :) [00:22] :) [00:23] Well If the chipset is done it's done. you'd need a new motherboard [00:23] or if you can find one that works (Most motherboards had two chipsets on them) then get a USB hub [00:23] butt the first thing is to find out if it's hardwar or not [00:24] having the computer go down from a power failure originally does make that more likely but again We need to make sure :) [00:25] the reallybadpart is that there are appx 6 usb ports on this computer and none of them are working other that sending power through them [00:26] Ok I'll guess that's Software or some pretty bad power failure I don't think I've ever seen so many ports go bad at the same time [00:26] neither havei [00:26] that what has me stumped [00:27] i mean if one went out i would have told her plug it in another one but none of them are working [00:27] right which is why I'm thinking/hoping it's software [00:28] teh current fedora or openSuse CD are close enough but different enough to test that out [00:29] do i have to try and download it or can i run it from the internet? [00:33] Lynn279: Umm I would guess download. You have a working mouse right now so that's crisis is lessened [00:34] Hey, Super Grub disk doesn't seem to work. It doesn't want to boot my usb drive [00:34] I'm assuming that your computer can boot USB [00:34] yes [00:34] Lynn279: You said that you couldn't boot the CD that you had? [00:34] I boot into SGD correctly [00:35] I mean it won't boot arch [00:35] doesn't seem to find my arch disk [00:36] thinking I'll just reinstall arch :P [00:36] yes but it is on loan so i have to fix this issue quickly === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [00:56] * genii-2 sips [01:11] hi [01:12] I wanto to use the command asoundconf but there is no such file, I would like to know in which package can I find that program? [01:14] can anyone assist with an Xsession error? [01:16] genii: Ever heard of 6 USB pots dyingat the same time? [01:17] Daskreech: Yup. [01:17] nope [01:17] genii: what caused it? [01:18] Daskreech: Plugging the header of the usb cord in backwards to the motherboard pins [01:19] but it only fits in ONE way [01:19] genii: this one died while the computer was running. Mouse stopped working [01:19] Daskreech: Likely USB controller fried then [01:20] dbc254: The one side has no blocked out pin-hole. So it happens when you get only 1 row on and reversed it [01:20] genii: Ok I asked the person to get a Fedora or an openSUSE live CD and try the ports then to check but it sounded very dead to me [01:20] oh the ports still give power [01:20] That was strange too [01:22] can anyone assist with an Xsession error? [01:22] Daskreech: I've also seen but only once... if you are plugging in a usb device and have it backwards but manage to touch the contacts anyhow and it sparks for a sec [01:22] (then it fries the controller) [01:23] ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztt! Add cornmeal. It's FRIED! [01:23] dbc254: Hehe... odds are yes === jscudder is now known as scudder [01:26] dbc254: What is the error message it gives? [01:27] ok so nothing i have tried has worked. i can not play any cds, dvds, can't get usb ports to work nothing [01:29] dbc254: As per my message to you, please use this channel. I do not assist in private message unless sensitive private info is involved which is inappropriate for here [01:29] Lynn: genii agrees with me that it might be a fried controller [01:29] ok so what sort of recommendations do you have for my friend? [01:29] dbc254: The message occurs at what point of loading X? kdm ? [01:30] dbc254: as much as possible try to get help in the right channel. More peopel can see and help you if the person has to leave others can cathc up without having to be retold the entire story and people who had no idea can learn from your situation [01:30] Lynn: Well as I said you need to ensure that it is hardware by using a differnt setup [01:30] Wait you have no optical drive in the machine? [01:31] Lynn: Please use pastebin website to show us dmesg output. If some hardware is borked it might show why there [01:31] ok the only problem is that i can't run any cds or the usbs [01:32] what do i need tosudo in it? [01:32] Lynn: sudo apt-get install pastebinit then: dmesg|pastebinit and give us the URL it reports [01:33] You have a CD but you can't see the CDs? [01:35] http://pastebin.com/f717f63c3 [01:35] Reading [01:39] Lynn: Theres hope. It's seeing your usb controller [01:41] ok so how can i fix the issue? [01:43] Lynn: It is groaning a bit about load order of usb drivers. Try: sudo modprobe -r uhci_hcd ; sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd ;sudo modprobe -r ohci_hcd and then reload them in the order of: ehci_hcd then ohci_hcd then uhci_hcd with: sudo modprobe ehci_hcd ; sudo modprobe ohci_hcd ; sudo modprobe uhci_hcd [01:43] And then see if some usb thing like mouse works [01:43] Door, AFK [01:44] * Daskreech hangs around for support [01:47] Back [01:48] nope that didn't work [01:49] Lynn: What reports back from command: groups [01:49] nothing [01:49] (conceivably not in plugdev and cdrom groups) [01:50] iput it in andit justgoesaround to the @home for the next command [01:50] That sounds borked. Because you should see at least the name of the group which is also your name [01:50] how can you be in no groups? You should be in at least one [01:51] hello [01:51] Hello [01:52] Lynn: That dmesg paste... has the machine been rebooted since the usb/cd stopped working? (eg is it old info from when things worked before or after they stopped) [01:52] eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe -r uhci_hcd eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe -r ohci_hcd eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe ehci_hcd eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe ohci_hcd eboni@home:~$ sudo modprobe uhci_hcd eboni@home:~$ [01:52] yes it has been rebooted like 3differenttimes [01:52] Lynn: THAT set of commands should just return to $ , yes. But what says result of command: groups [01:53] chuis le seul francais snif [01:53] that is what happenedstep by step when i did what you said [01:53] !fr | laurent_ [01:53] laurent_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [01:53] Lynn: Cool that should be what happened but what happens when you type groups [01:54] cool merci and good bye [01:54] eboni adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare [01:54] Ok that's better [01:55] sorrybeen a long days took a min to realise what u were talking about [01:55] So the user is in the correct groups of cdrom and plugdev to use those devices. [01:55] but nothing is working [01:56] Lynn: Please report result of: ls -l /dev/sr0 [01:57] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2005-12-31 19:06 /dev/sr0 -> scd0 [01:58] looks right [02:00] so any other ideeas? [02:01] Does KDE support active x? === BlAcK_BaRbiE is now known as Firefishe [02:01] Itś a symlink. What is the long ls of /dev/scd0 ? [02:01] eg: ls -l /dev/scd0 [02:02] nikitis: No linux supports ActiveX [02:02] genii: what happened to this then? http://www.konqueror.org/announcements/reaktivate.php [02:04] nikitis: There have been some private efforts to reverse-engineer ActiveX but nothing useful as far as i know [02:04] so doyou have any other ideas? [02:04] if not i'm going to give up for the evening [02:05] genii: so was reaktivate dropped? [02:05] Lynn: report: ls -l /dev/scd0 [02:05] i did already [02:05] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2005-12-31 19:06 /dev/sr0 -> scd0 [02:05] Lynn: That was sr0. We want to know scd0 [02:05] oh srry [02:05] Lynn: sr0 just points to scd0 [02:06] brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2005-12-31 19:06 /dev/scd0 [02:06] nikitis: No idea, you have to ask whoevers responsible for that project [02:09] Active X is evil [02:09] Needed for Netflix in Konqueror [02:10] Is there a way to make a window ignore all "outside" commands, such as the alt+click to move command? [02:11] nikitis: I don't wanna start a standards flame war, but there's ways for them to distribute their product witout using a propriatory POS like that [02:11] active X is still evil [02:11] well i agree [02:11] but they aren't going to [02:11] So support is needed [02:11] nikitis: Granted KDE is not linux but if you install KDE on windows and use IE then it does indeed support activeX :-) [02:12] eek [02:13] genii: what were you looking for in /dev/scd0 ? [02:14] Daskreech: To make sure the cdrom hardware device entry had root:cdrom as user:group so it jives with the groups the user belongs to [02:15] any idea as to why the USB would just stop working? [02:18] Daskreech: Conceivable from what I can tell it might be some HAL thing. Hardware is being seen on low-level and udev is making the right /dev nodes with correct permissions, the user is in the correct groups to use the devices. [02:19] HAL should be reset after a reboot no? [02:19] Daskreech: Yes :/ [02:20] grrr [02:21] I'd really like to have an internet connection that would stay connected. [02:21] as I'm booting up. It's semi-verbose, so I can watch text flying by, but there are no errors. Then I get this msg box. Clicking OK gets me by it [02:22] Daskreech: The other possibility is that the BIOS is reporting the hardware to linux as if itś working properly but that in reality some part of the controllers for the usb or cd are fried [02:23] dbc254: touch ~/.Xsession [02:23] just type in that command? [02:24] yes [02:24] I just did it, but nothing happened. Used "sudo" [02:24] dbc254: There is usually no xsession file by default. If you make a blank one by "touching" it then it likely won't wail anymore. I forget if uppercase X is actually required or not [02:24] argh [02:24] not sudo [02:25] what did I do to create this malady [02:25] dbc254: "nothing happened" means command successfully completed [02:26] so I should try restarting and see if I get the error. Why did Daskreech argh that I used sudo [02:26] did I screw this up? [02:26] thanks for all your help i think i am going to call it a night at her hou house. [02:26] Daskreech: With sudo and ~/ in the argument it won put it in his actual home dir luckily [02:26] genii: Sure? [02:26] Lynn: Will you be back? [02:27] i am goingto head home. will u guys be on fora while? [02:27] so I should type that again without SUDO? [02:27] dbc254: Because making root-owned files in a specific users directory causes many problems [02:27] Lynn: Yes [02:27] good i should be home in about an hour if you come up with anything in the mean time. [02:27] thanks [02:27] see u in a bit [02:28] tried typing that in witout SUDO and got permission denied. How do I undo this? [02:28] dbc254: The first time you typed it it worked. It just doesnt say something like "hey I completed OK" it just goes back to command prompt which is what it's supposed to do [02:28] genii: The bash interpeter would grab it before the sudo is run so it should make it in whatever $HOME is for the user he's running it for [02:28] assuming that dbc254 is a he [02:28] Bye Lynn [02:29] then I should try to restart to see if the "touch" worked? [02:29] dbc254: Holdon [02:29] dbc254: sudo rm ~/.Xsession && touch ~/.Xsession [02:29] what's XSession for? [02:29] Do you mean .Xauthority ? [02:30] hello [02:30] I want my wifi-enabled laptop to host internet to my non-wifi laptop with an ethernet cable. But the host computer's wifi connection cuts out once it connects to the other computer, which means no internet. Here is a map of what i'm doing. http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3650/wantschematic.jpg [02:30] !hi | lunahyen [02:30] lunahyen: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [02:30] Daskreech: It's a file you can put something in like: startkde & which would run KDE as default window manager, etc etc [02:30] wow, that diagram is awesome [02:31] OK, just typed in what Daskreech gave me. It completed [no OK or errors] should I try restarting now? [02:31] dbc254: Yes [02:32] ok back in a minute. [02:33] lunahyen, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 [02:33] thanks carpii === promulo1 is now known as promulo [02:59] does anyone know how I can burn multiple avi with a selection menu on a dvd === nchung is now known as yellow [02:59] Just make it a DVD [02:59] yellow, using devede ? [03:00] i am using k3b on a kubuntu box [03:00] yellow, you want to burn a data disc? or one usable on a dvd player [03:01] one usuable on a DVD player [03:01] k3b wont do that yellow [03:01] i just apt-get install devede will give it a shot also [03:01] yellow, try devede for starters, see if that helps [03:01] so devede should do the trick ? [03:01] ok [03:02] thanks man [03:02] really appreciate the help [03:02] no guarantees, but is known to work [03:02] kewl will reply back and let you know [03:10] dd [03:12] yellow: You can make a dvd-compliant iso from avi files with devede. If the iso is too large for a 4.7 dvd then use something like k9copy or dvd95 to shrink it [03:12] thanks a lot [03:12] really appreciate all the help you guys are giving me [03:13] yellow, wait first to see if it works before thanking :) [03:39] ok so have you had any luck in coming up with and answer? [03:40] Lynn706: No sudden epiphany. [03:42] lol [03:43] Lynn706: Will the box still boot from CD? [03:44] Apparently it wont since she can't see CDs [03:46] Assuming that Lynn706 is a she :) [03:48] Daskreech: If its software, should still boot from CD if it was capable before of that. The current idea i have is to boot a livecd and see if usb works from that. Then we know itś software and not hardware fail. [03:49] That was my suggestion from the start [03:49] Though I think Lynn706 either said that CDs couldn't be burned or couldn't be burned from that computer [03:53] Daskreech: I came in sometime after and didn't see your suggestion to that effect. I suppose they need to make a livecd and none handy, etc etc [03:54] genii: Yes I know I gave you a cuppa when you turned up :) [03:57] hi [03:57] I am searching for kubuntu for an LG netbook [03:57] !unr [03:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about unr [03:58] Hm [03:58] :-) [03:58] !netbook [03:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about netbook [03:58] Stupid bo [03:58] t [03:58] :D [03:58] ikbel: What do you mean Kubuntu on a LG netbook ? [03:59] ikbel: You can check the list of models from the link on http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook [03:59] genii: this is ubuntu, not kubuntu [03:59] ikbel: As far as i know no Kubuntu-specific netbook-remix. But you can install it from a regular ubuntu with package kubuntu-desktop [04:00] genii: there is [04:00] Just in KK [04:00] plasma-netbook I think [04:00] Daskreech: Ah good :) I learn something every day [04:00] instead of plasma-desktop :) [04:01] ikbel: Which may be unfortunate for you [04:01] links ? [04:02] ikbel: Since it would be in Karmic (9.10) you may want to enquire in #ubuntu+1 (which is also #kubuntu+1 ) [04:05] Apparently he couldn be bothered, didn go there to ask [04:08] What is with the FloodBot? [04:09] I really don't like that thing [04:10] Daskreech: proxy users like mibbit get screened by the floodbots [04:11] It's still creepy [04:11] Feels like Robo nanny from Futurama [04:26] Any recommended replacement PDF viewers for Okular. Okular has a bug where-in it displays nothing when I zoom-in too close [04:27] 9.04_64 [04:27] KDE 4.3 [04:28] corigo: Serious? [04:28] I've zoomed in over 100% before how close are you zooming in? [04:29] 51.75% [04:29] Which PDF ? [04:29] If it's publically available [04:30] It is an A0 sized OpenOffice Drawing displaying screen shots of my website. [04:32] I read that as Adults Only or a second :) [04:32] for [04:32] No, that's a standard paper size... 4 times larger than A4 [04:33] Theres a java based viewer which i haven tried libpdfrenderer-java [04:33] Yeah Took me a second to put that together === oggb4mp3_ is now known as oggb4mp3 [04:55] Great... Adobe's website crashed my browser [04:56] corigo: try evince [05:01] not sure yet how to launch libpdfrenderer-java... === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [05:23] not sure yet how to launch libpdfrenderer-java... [05:29] corigo: it's a lib [05:29] you don't launch it [05:30] Daskreech... ya ya... ok, then how do I use it over Okular? [05:30] Not sure what you are asking [05:30] what do you want to do [05:31] I want to view my pdf file... sniff. and Okular won't display it properly when I zoom-in [05:33] Where are you getting that lib from? [05:33] what's important about it? [05:33] It was an early recommendation... on this IRC. Installed from repositories [05:35] Hmm interesting [05:35] corigo: do you ahve KDE 4.2 or 4.3 btw ? [05:37] Hola [05:37] HOla [05:38] Es mi debut en un canal IRC... [05:39] !espanol [05:39] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [05:39] 4.3 [05:39] Hmm :-/ [05:40] ask on #KDE if anyone has had a similar experince [05:40] I've not seen that [05:40] Is it just at that zoom or anything above it? [05:40] Anything above it [05:41] It may be different in a smaller document... as opposed to an A0 sized format [05:41] hi , i installed kubuntu on my laptop and it doesnt seem to find my wifi card, intel 3945abg, however i am pretty sure its supposed to have the drivers included in the kernel already [05:41] any ideas? [05:42] !wif [05:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about wif [05:42] !wifi [05:42] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [05:42] ePDFViewer seems to work well [05:42] without the Gnome dependencies === pablo_ is now known as PabliNet [05:43] Mike99: Version of Kubuntu and KDE? [05:45] 9.04 [05:45] kde 4 [05:45] ¿Yo? 4.3 en 9.04. [05:45] PabliNet: es mui bueno [05:47] Mike99: have installed the Neworking widget? [05:47] Sí, tá güeno... es el que más me gusta.... pero también me gustaría probar LXFE. [05:50] Quise decir LXDE. [05:50] PabliNet, english here please [05:54] Es mucho pedir eso... [05:55] I am exit [05:57] PabliNet: escribo /join #kubuntu-es [05:57] corigo, no , how do i install that? [05:59] is there a working version of the network-manager or networkmanagement plasmoids? I had been using the networkmanagement from the kde4.3 extras ppa but it stopped connecting last week and now the network-manager plasmoid won't even work... only the old knetworkmanager [05:59] harolddong: try wicd [06:00] I want exit this channel... [06:02] yeah I guess I could try wicd. I was just hoping for something non-gtk. I mean I could just use nm-applet if I were going to use wicd [06:02] Mike99: in the bottom task bar click on the Cashew swirl and select Add Widgets [06:02] (or top or side where ever you have placed it.) [06:02] harolddong: Wicd connects before logging in :) [06:03] That's an advantage there [06:03] I'll check it out [07:09] -.- [07:11] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490451 [07:14] where is the faq for kubuntu not being able to play audio from more than one source === tj___ is now known as _TJ [08:13] hi === hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh is now known as X_o [08:13] noboby is wake up? === tj___ is now known as _TJ [08:22] hola [08:27] ciao [08:27] ce qualche italiano? === rraphink is now known as raphink [08:33] ciao [08:33] ciao [08:33] ho bisogno di aiuto [08:34] te ne intendi li sto linux???? [08:34] *di [08:34] dimmi [08:34] Ho istallato kubuntu sul mio pc.....tanto per provare e mi piace [08:34] ma........... [08:35] HO PROBLEMI CON LA RISOLUZIONE DELLO SKERMO [08:35] è ferma a 800 per 600 [08:35] e non la posso mettere + su [08:35] puoi darmi una mano? [08:35] portatile o fisso? [08:35] fisso [08:35] hai installato i driver per la scheda video? [08:36] ho istallato il driver NVIDEA da HARDWARE DRIVER [08:36] la cosa è peggiorata sono caduto a 600 per 300 [08:36] e lo succesivamente disistallato [08:37] che scheda video hai? recente? [08:37] no..... [08:37] nvidea mi pare serie 6000e qualcosa [08:37] solo che non so neanche come si vede con linux [08:37] ti consigliava la serie 173.xx dei driver? [08:37] !it [08:37] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [08:38] hai un account messenger? [08:38] ???????? COSA DEVO FARE DEVO CAMBIARE CANALE??? [08:38] STO PARLANDO.............. [08:38] giovanni_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. === eli__ is now known as Elirips [08:39] se hai un account messenger puoi trovarmi come socialinux@hotmail.com === william is now known as Guest26416 === Victor__ is now known as iVictor === neverendingo__ is now known as neverendingo === gradischnig is now known as hackiwolf === william is now known as Guest49881 [10:00] I have a serious kde 4.3 problem [10:00] kded4 is doing mad accessing my external hd mounted under my home folder [10:00] it practically locks the system up [10:01] If I unplug my external usb hd.... delete my .kde folder... restart kde.... KDE runs perfectly [10:01] but as soon as I plug my external hard drive in kded4 goes MAD! [10:01] any bright ideas on debugging? [10:10] wow === william is now known as Guest71131 [10:43] hello [10:44] i don't want any password in my kwallet [10:45] is that possible so my pc connects to wirless network withoput user inputs [10:47] ok, for those who may be having problems with kde 4.3 under jaunty... if you have a slow hard drive or external hard drive... the suse free space notifier service will cause kded4 for run really slow [10:48] it will cause it to run slow anyway... but you will notice huge lag if you have a slow hd [10:48] so disable it! [10:48] and remove it from kubuntu [10:53] Where can I post bug reports against the 4.3 packages? [11:16]