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maxbSomething weird seems to have happened to update-manager in karmic01:19
maxbhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.124.801:19
maxbThe i386 build hasn't published01:19
maxbcprov: ^ Don't suppose you're around?01:20
cprovmaxb: I am01:26
wgrantIt doesn't look like it should have landed in NEW, although the queue page erroneously indicates that most of the binaries are NEW.01:26
wgrantIt did for the previous upload as well.01:26
maxbIs something interestingly broken? :-)01:27
cprovthe NEW binaries look weird -> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue?queue_state=2&queue_text=update01:28
wgrantcprov: Yes, but they do in the previous i386 binary upload too.01:29
maxbthat sort of matches with the fact that aptitude is calling update-manager "Obsolete or locally created" here - so I guess their previous publishing has evaporated somehow01:29
wgrantUm.01:30
wgrantIndeed.01:30
wgrantThose binaries are superseded.01:30
wgrantOh.01:30
lifeless\o/ epochs01:30
wgrantI think that's fine, actually.01:31
wgrantOh.01:31
wgrantCrap.01:31
wgrantIt's that bug again.01:31
wgrantcprov: Look how many BPPHs there are...01:31
wgrantThere's a problem in the custom upload.01:31
cprovhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/i386/update-manager-core/01:32
wgrantYep.01:32
wgrantNext question... what is wrong with the dist-upgrader upload?01:33
cprovwgrant: it was already published on disk, during the p-a failures this morning01:34
wgrantcprov: Ah, so p-a was dying for reasons other than this upload?01:35
cprovI will wait the current publisher to finish and remove it from the archive.01:35
cprovwgrant: not really, p-a failed due to a open-fd leak.01:36
lifelessBjornT: around?01:36
* lifeless is wondering whether we could delete bug status 'New'01:36
lifelessit seems unnecessary now01:36
wgrantcprov: Duh. Of course, I should have remembered that.01:36
wgrantlifeless: What do new bugs start as?01:37
wgrant(killing "Confirmed", sure. "New"? Not so much.)01:37
lifelesswgrant: they should start Incomplete ;)01:37
lifelessincomplete + last comment is not a triager-or-developer == triager-or-developer needs to look at it01:38
wgrantMmm. Maybe.01:38
cprovwgrant: fixed, 0.128.4 published, the i386 bin will show up in the next pub cycle01:38
lifelesswhat workflow sets bugs *to* New01:38
lifelessand what workflow takes bugs out of New01:39
lifelessnow, consider the workflow that takes bugs out of Incomplete.01:39
lifelessI assert that the last two are the same01:39
lifelessand the first is the empty set01:39
wgrantlifeless: The first set is not empty.01:41
lifelessThe answer, AFAICT, is that lp doesn't use roleof(last-toucher) at the moment01:41
wgrantIt is useful if the information has been provided, but it is unclear whether the bug should be Won't Fix or Triaged.01:41
lifelesswgrant: its used to reopen bugs in ubuntu (which the submitter just commenting and the bug auto-going-to-incomplete would be sufficient)01:41
wgrantIf I fling the bug back to New, it's clear that it needs looking at.01:42
lifelesswgrant: by whom - you aren't routing it usefully.01:42
wgrantIf I just comment on the Incomplete bug, it will disappear from the radar.01:42
wgrantPerhaps.01:42
lifelessif you can't make the asssesment and it needs a dev to do it, Triaged would be the right state.01:42
lifelessfor Ubuntu at least, cause Ubuntu documents that value as 'ready for a dev to look at'01:43
juju2143Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. <== ...02:28
wgrantjuju2143: Which URL gave you that?02:30
juju2143http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/ubuntu-bots/ubotufr/files02:30
wgrantAh.02:30
wgrantSince it's bazaar.launchpad.net, just try again a couple of times. It will probably work.02:31
juju2143its dont work since someminutes, so...02:31
juju2143it's work now02:44
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daishadari've deleted a package from my ppa, and although i don't see it in my package listing anymore, it appears that files are still there (had an upload rejected recently because of it).  how long does it take for the files to disappear?07:28
wgrantdaishadar: You cannot upload the same version again.07:31
wgrantdaishadar: You must change the version number.07:31
maxbDoes LP let me ask to receive copies of mails I send to a mailing list, like other mailman installations do?07:32
wgrantmaxb: No -- you always get copies.07:33
maxboh, so I do, they just took a loooooong time to appear07:33
wgrant(unless you use GMail, but, well, that's GMail)07:33
maxband one of them still hasn't07:34
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wgrantmaxb: On one of my recent emails, there was 4 minutes of lag between the two forster hops, and 16 minutes inside forster before the first hop out of it.07:35
wgrantI presume one of those was waiting for moderation.07:35
maxbI'm talking days :-/07:35
maxbdespite that fact it shows in mhonarc07:36
wgrantHuh.07:36
wgrantNothing crazy like GMail in the equation?07:36
wgrantWhat does the trace say?07:36
maxbtrace?07:36
wgrantmaxb: The Received headers.07:37
maxbuh... well I haven't received it so it would be challenging to inspect the headers :-)07:37
maxbhttps://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg00561.html <-- I never got a copy of this07:38
wgrantmaxb: You have at least one, though.07:38
wgrantOr were the others not delayed?07:38
* wgrant twitches at the age of the user-agent...07:39
maxbapologies, looks like my email provider being pathetic and sitting on the mail for 3 days07:39
daishadarwgrant: really? even after i completely delete the package?07:40
maxbhaha, that's spectacular. I sent it from Thunderbird in Karmic07:40
daishadarso i can never perform a rebuild?07:40
wgrantdaishadar: It's clearly not the same version of the package, so why would it have the same version number?07:40
daishadarno, see, the package version changed, but the upstream source did not07:41
daishadarthat's what's getting rejected07:41
daishadarthe pristine source07:41
wgrantdaishadar: Oh. Then the source is obviously not pristine.07:42
wgrantif it changes, you have violated the definition of the file.07:42
daishadarit changed because the gzip header changed07:42
wgrantwhy did it change?07:42
daishadari redownloaded it07:42
daishadarbecause i accidentally deleted it07:42
wgrantDownloading it again will not change a single bit in the file, unless upstream uploaded a new tarball.07:43
daishadarbut more fundamentally, i'm confused why files don't disappaer when i delete them07:43
wgrantdaishadar: They do disappear.07:43
wgrantBut you can't upload one with the same name.07:43
daishadarreally? why is this file still here: https://launchpad.net/~nikil.mehta/+archive/emulators/+files/bsnes_0.049.orig.tar.gz07:43
wgrantBecause that confuses clients, confuses index generators, makes no sense, and probably other things.07:43
daishadarit's not listed on my ppa anywhere07:44
wgrantdaishadar: Because you requested that file.07:44
wgrantIt is listed, if you look at superseded packages.07:44
daishadarohhh07:44
daishadarhow do i do that?07:44
wgrantOn the PPA page, change the Published selector to Superseded or Any Status.07:44
maxbdaishadar: Fundamentally, no versioned filename may ever be reused with different content, within an archive.07:44
daishadarit says there are 0 superseded packages07:44
wgrantdaishadar: It shows me one...07:45
daishadari think the gzip header changed somewhere in the packaged process after i downloaded it (via uscan or uupdate or something)07:45
wgranthttps://edge.launchpad.net/~nikil.mehta/+archive/emulators/?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=any07:45
wgrantdaishadar: Why was it being recompressed? Does upstream not provide a .tar.gz?07:45
daishadarit's a tar.bz207:46
wgrantAnyway, the easy fix is to just grab the .orig.tar.gz from Launchpad and use that instead.07:46
daishadaruscan doesn't like that apparently07:46
daishadaror maybe launchpad needs a gz, i dunno07:46
daishadari see07:46
wgrantRight, .tar.bz2 is not a widely supported original tarball format for Debian source packages just yet.07:46
daishadarsorry i was looking the 0 next to superseded in teh build status07:47
daishadari see now07:47
daishadari think i get it07:47
daishadarthanks a lot for your help!07:47
wgrantnp07:47
jmlg'night all07:48
maxbCould someone kick gold? It appears to be sitting permanently idle07:58
* wgrant wonders if the term 'Enablement' was chosen to be deliberately ironic.08:10
wgrantmaxb: Why is your mail client still spoofing an ancient Windows XP Thunderbird?08:11
maxbAn excellent and somewhat amusing question08:12
maxbuser_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050923 Thunderbird/1.0.7");08:12
wgrantI see.08:12
maxbno idea whatsoever where that came from08:12
wgrantI was a bit surprised when I first saw "Windows NT 5.1", but I thought I'd let that slide. Then I saw the rest.08:13
maxbI wonder if that's possibly the first ever version of Thunderbird I used, and it somehow stuck08:31
TNorrisWhen using a shared repo, do you have to be in each individual folder (branch) to push?09:45
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sluimersHi there, I'm trying to upload something to the ppa but I get a failed to build message. I'm pretty sure it's due to a dependency, but I do not know how to handle that. Can someone help me with this?10:47
wgrantsluimers: Sure. Link to the build log?10:47
sluimershttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/30804944/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:49
sluimersIt's obvious to me it needs corona10:49
sluimershttp://corona.sourceforge.net/10:50
wgrantsluimers: I can't see a package for that, so you'll need to package it first.10:51
wgrantsluimers: At this point, #ubuntu-motu might be more help.10:51
sluimersokay thanks10:52
sluimerswgrant, are you suggesting I should put corona in the Ubuntu archive?11:02
wgrantsluimers: Or at least your PPA, yes.11:02
wgrantsluimers: #ubuntu-motu is also useful for general packaging questions.11:03
sluimersOkay, I have the same problem with corona now as it depends on libpng11:53
sluimershttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/30809648/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.corona_1.0.2~0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:53
sluimershow do I tell the PPA to use this dependency?11:54
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maxbsluimers: Looks like you haven't declared the relevant packages in Build-Depends:12:08
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geserhow reliable is the mirroring from Debian packages into LP?13:10
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wgrantgeser: Normally it's good, unless the mirror stops updating. But it doesn't catch removals.13:16
wgrantAnd a package I just looked at has been missed.13:16
wgrantHmmmm.13:16
geserso why is inotifyx (uploaded to Debian on 2009-08-23) already there but e.g. vboxgtk (2009-08-22) not yet. and ssvnc (new in Debian since 2009-08-23) is also missing13:18
geserI planned to use it as a replacement for rmadison13:19
ogrageser, wasnt vboxgtk a manual merge ?13:19
wgrantgeser: lives (NEW) was published in Debian three days ago, and the SPN exists but it's not listed as being in Debian.13:19
wgrantSo something is wrong.13:20
wgrantogra: This is the LP import of Debian. Nothing to do with merges.13:20
ograoh, k13:20
wgrantcprov: Any ideas on what gina is playing at?13:20
wgrantHm.13:21
cprovwgrant: just failed with EmailAddressAlreadyTaken13:21
wgrantI can think of one possibility.13:21
wgrantYepo.13:21
wgrantThat's the one.13:21
wgrantThat is plaguing a few things, now...13:23
addikt1vehi13:30
addikt1vemaybe you folks can help me :)13:31
addikt1vei have a permissions-related problem13:31
addikt1vei'd like to give users the rights to upload things on a bzr branch13:31
spivaddikt1ve: create a team13:32
spivaddikt1ve: and make the branch be owned by that team13:32
addikt1vespiv: how can I do that?13:32
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addikt1vei'm not the projet head, i just own a branch13:32
spivOr you can use an already existing team, of course.13:33
addikt1vepiero_: o/13:33
piero_yo addikt1ve13:33
addikt1veyoyo gangsta geek13:34
spivaddikt1ve: there's a "create a new team" link on the front page of https://launchpad.net/13:34
addikt1vespiv: <313:34
spivbasically, if a branch is owned by a team, then any member of that team can write to it.13:35
addikt1venice spiv, i created the team13:37
addikt1venow how can i give it full control over my branch,13:37
addikt1ve?13:37
spivaddikt1ve: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/TeamBranches13:38
spivaddikt1ve: that's the proper docs on this topic13:38
spivaddikt1ve: anyway, to give the team control over your branch, change the owner by clicking the yellow edit icon next to where it lists the owner on that branch's page.13:39
addikt1vespiv: great, got it13:39
addikt1vethanks!13:39
spivaddikt1ve: next time, if the team already exists, you can just push the branch directly to ~teamname/... rather than ~yourself/... to create it. :)13:41
addikt1vespiv: yeah i just realized :)13:45
epsythere really needs to be a filter fixed bugs option on launchpad :<13:49
epsyand a "milestone" column :<13:52
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addikt1veme again14:28
addikt1vei've got a problem with bzr14:28
addikt1vei want to get a copy of my branch (translation) and start working on it14:28
addikt1veso i bzr branch lp:~inx-translation/inx/translation14:28
addikt1vethen cd translation14:28
addikt1veand when i start creating files in it etc and bzr commit14:28
addikt1veit tells me there are no changes to commit14:28
addikt1vewtf?14:28
beunoaddikt1ve, have you added the new files?14:30
beuno"bzr status" will tell you14:30
beunoif you haven't14:30
beuno"bzr add" will be your friend14:30
addikt1vei need to manually add each file i'm working on?14:31
addikt1velook, i just touched pouet14:31
addikt1ve[addikt1ve@arch translation]$ bzr status14:31
addikt1veunknown:14:31
addikt1ve  pouet14:31
beunothere you go14:31
beunoit hasn't been added14:32
beunoyou need to tell bzr when you want to version new files, yes14:32
addikt1veok...14:32
addikt1vecan i bzr add * ?14:32
wgrantPlain 'bzr add' will add all unknown files.14:33
addikt1vewgrant: thanks :) love you14:33
addikt1veit works14:34
addikt1vethanks :)14:34
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EtienneGhey guys!15:27
EtienneGwho would be responsible for "janitoring" on LP, like deleting projects, etc15:28
intellectronicaEtienneG: any admin. what is this about?15:32
EtienneGintellectronica, a friend of mine poked me about https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/8015215:33
EtienneGintellectronica, he is not super-comfortable in English, hence why he is going through me15:34
EtienneGintellectronica, they are just wondering the status on that on, it's blocking them from migrating their project from SF15:34
intellectronicaEtienneG: iirc project groups need to be approved by kiko or francis. once approved, any of our sysadmins can do it for you15:35
EtienneGintellectronica, ok then, I will poke Francis in time15:36
EtienneGintellectronica, thx a lot, btw!   (I am so rude)15:40
intellectronicaEtienneG: np15:41
happyaronwhy my translation download requests don't send me email?15:48
MagicFabHi all16:46
MagicFabI'd like to know how to create a new FAQ in LP. I can't seem to find an easy link to that.16:46
hunal1Hi there ! I would like to know if it's possible to get help for this: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/8015216:46
MagicFabOr maybe I have to be an answer contact for a given project to do that ?16:47
hunal1We are currently migrating and it would be cool to know if we can do something to speed up the process16:47
hunal1(from sf.net)16:47
MagicFabhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/19146 indicates "it's a bug" without referring to it..16:48
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* kfogel is away: lunch + an errand17:12
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lbieberOn https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-benchmark, I sometimes get email saying i need to approve an email to this list, but don't see anything that shows the mailing list is configured to require approvals.  Any ideas?17:39
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didrockshey LP guys, do you have currently an issue with token authentification in launchpadlib?18:34
rowinggolferLP admin - an apology.18:39
rowinggolferI asked for a package to be removed from my ppa earlier, but hit submit before giving a reason.18:39
rowinggolferbad form, many apologies.18:39
rowinggolfer(package has been removed - ta)18:39
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nxvlhi19:04
nxvli'm writing a script to report bugs to an LP project, and i'm not fully getting the bug_target concept19:05
nxvland i can't find documentation on the topic19:05
salgadonxvl, what is it that you don't understand about bug targets?19:13
nxvlsalgado: how do i create one19:16
nxvlsalgado: i have found a lot of examples for ubuntu specifics, but not for other projects19:16
salgadonxvl, a bug target is what's affected by a given bug. could be a sourcepackage, a distro, a project, etc19:17
nxvlsalgado: so i can use Launchpad.bugs.createBug(target="project") and will work?19:18
salgadoyes19:18
nxvlawesome, thank you!19:18
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kamalnandanyesterday..i created a OpenID on my ubuntu machine...and also registered the fingerprint with lauchpad..today..when i started tha machine i dont see the keys on my machine anymore..19:25
kamalnandanwondering what happened to them..?19:25
kamalnandanany clue folks..what would have happened..?19:26
kamalnandanthis OpenPGP key has been creating problems with me since the last 5 days..19:29
kamalnandansomething or the lese goes wrong and/or gets stuck if I am not having the keys..making me sick..19:30
kamalnandanno takers for my query..19:40
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statik hi launchpad people, i have a questions about stacking. i desperately need to push a 2a format branch to a project where the dev focus branch is in an older format. is there a way I can force a branch not to stack?21:17
james_wstatik: you can push to +junk and then move the branch to the project in its edit page I believe21:17
statikjames_w, thanks! i'll try that21:18
statikjames_w, looks like i can change the owner but not the project on the branch edit page21:22
james_wah21:23
james_wI think that might be indirectly my fault, sorry :-)21:23
statiknp :) mwhudson gave me a way to do it21:24
lbieberTrying again - On https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-benchmark, I sometimes get email saying i need to approve an email to this list, but don't see anything that shows the mailing list is configured to require approvals.  Any ideas?21:26
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lifelesshow does one decline a bug nomination these days?21:41
sluimersHi, I have PPA issue, the program named ika I'm trying to build depends on corona which I succesfully build in PPA, but it cannot find corona21:51
sluimershttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/30830132/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz21:51
sluimersI have an PPA issue21:51
sluimersproblem21:51
kfogeldo merged branches ever disappear or something?  I'm looking in code.launchpad.net/~kfogel for some old branches that I *know* were there once upon a time -- they even had merge proposals (this is to use one of the MPs as an example in the dev wiki).  But even with filter set to "any status" I can't see those branches now.21:58
kfogelnpm21:58
kfogelnm21:58
kfogelignore my question above please; it's because I was somehow logged out of LP, and they were private branches21:58
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cyberixthe milestone visual looks odd at https://edge.launchpad.net/indicator-applet22:44
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