| mac_v | dashua: hi... is it possible to use 2 engines for 1 widget? | 09:21 |
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| mac_v | like for instance i dont like how murrine focusses the buttons , can i use clearlooks only for button focus? while the rest use murrine? | 09:22 |
| kwwii | mac_v: for each entry in the gtkrc you can use a different engine | 10:04 |
| mac_v | kwwii: \o/ hi... back? | 10:04 |
| mac_v | kwwii: hmm... i'm messing up something then! i'm trying to use a pix map for the Focus , but either it uses pixmap engine or the murrine! i'll try to check where it is wrong | 10:06 |
| kwwii | mac_v: nope, still on vacation, you just got lucky ;) | 10:16 |
| kwwii | hrm, it might be the case that within one widget it cannot use more than one engine | 10:16 |
| kwwii | I am working on my mac atm so I can't check | 10:17 |
| mac_v | lol ;) | 10:17 |
| mac_v | yeah thougth so too... but i'll double check | 10:17 |
| dashua | mac_v, Yes, change notebook engine "clearlooks" {} | 12:36 |
| dashua | Ah wait you want focus on the outside of the button | 12:38 |
| mac_v | dashua: actually what i want is to use a pixmap for the focus alone , > http://paste.ubuntu.com/259252/ , but which ever is the second engine becomes the one used for everything :( | 12:44 |
| mac_v | dashua: where can i find documentation for murrine engine? | 12:48 |
| dashua | I don't think you can combine two engines like that within a class. | 12:49 |
| mac_v | yeah :( | 12:49 |
| dashua | So you want to use the murrine button with a pixmap focus entry | 12:49 |
| mac_v | yup | 12:50 |
| dashua | http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/ | 12:50 |
| dashua | Somewhere on his site, I think it's limited | 12:50 |
| mac_v | i went through that but > http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/options was all i found :( | 12:51 |
| mac_v | dashua: let me know if you get any ideas for assigning a pix map for focus alone :) | 12:55 |
| dashua | Ok np. | 12:55 |
| dashua | mac_v, Can you send me tarball of your theme? I have an idea. | 13:06 |
| mac_v | sure , just a sec | 13:06 |
| mac_v | dashua: i'm having some problem with archive manager! it keeps crashing , do you want just the gtkrc? | 13:14 |
| mac_v | or the i think you already have my theme , | 13:15 |
| dashua | I wanted the whole theme, pixmap for the focus and all. | 13:16 |
| mac_v | yeah, someting is messing up my archive manager , i'll try somehow to get it to wirk :) | 13:17 |
| dashua | Ha alright np. | 13:18 |
| dashua | You want clearlooks focus on the outside of the button right? | 13:18 |
| mac_v | dashua: i meant to get the archive manager to work , i have no new ideas for the theme ;p | 13:18 |
| dashua | I can't find the theme. | 13:19 |
| mac_v | dashua: i'll get back in a sec... i'll boot int jaunty :) | 13:19 |
| mac_v | into* | 13:19 |
| dashua | Ok | 13:20 |
| lucazade | on karmic the archive manager is broken, just use "tar czf theme.tar.gz themefolder" | 13:20 |
| mac_v | lucazade: hm... i'll try that first! too many apps to close ;) | 13:21 |
| lucazade | :D | 13:21 |
| dashua | Working ok here. Maybe 64 bit is good. | 13:24 |
| mac_v | dashua: its a big mess right now , > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/DSand.tar.gz < needs a lot of cleanup | 13:30 |
| dashua | Ok | 13:30 |
| mac_v | dashua: does the archive exist properly? i mean any problems extracting? | 13:31 |
| mac_v | lucazade: that didnt work for me either :( , but i fooled archive manager by adding files to an already existing archive and removing the existing files ;) | 13:31 |
| dashua | Nope. All good. | 13:32 |
| mac_v | phew , that saved me from closing ~20 windows :D | 13:33 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/22874/screenshot_001_9wM2hk.png | 13:40 |
| dashua | Something like that? | 13:40 |
| mac_v | dashua: yes but you changed the engine to clearlooks for the regular buttons too | 13:41 |
| dashua | I think it's packaged deal, unless you hack the engine. | 13:41 |
| dashua | a* | 13:42 |
| mac_v | dashua: ah... then i think i'll have to use pix maps for all , hmm... so i'll have to create a button which looks identical to the murrine one o.0 | 13:43 |
| dashua | Yep | 13:43 |
| mac_v | why cant life be easy :( | 13:44 |
| dashua | Hehe | 13:44 |
| dashua | Check out NewWave for pixmap help. That theme has it all. | 13:44 |
| mac_v | yeah, everything is a pixmap in new wave , he really did a lot of work | 13:45 |
| dashua | Sure did. | 13:46 |
| mac_v | dashua: the xchat users list... it is what type of widget? | 13:47 |
| dashua | Hrm, not sure. | 13:47 |
| lucazade | mac_v should be GtkTreeView widget, i suppose | 14:09 |
| mac_v | lucazade: do you use xchat? | 14:11 |
| lucazade | yes | 14:11 |
| mac_v | lucazade: ok , just test this out , any theme with clearlooks will have the user list just display names , but a theme with murrine engine displays dots in front of the names! is that correct or is it a bug in my install? | 14:13 |
| lucazade | yes murrine displays dots | 14:14 |
| mac_v | hmm ... | 14:15 |
| lucazade | seems a bug | 14:15 |
| mac_v | then i think its not treeview , because i have specifically assigned treeview to clearlooks , :( | 14:16 |
| * mac_v bangs his head | 14:16 | |
| dashua | mac_v, Add style "treeview" {engine "clearlooks" {hint = "treeview"}} | 14:24 |
| dashua | and widget_class "*.<GtkTreeView>*" style "treeview" | 14:24 |
| dashua | The dots will be gone | 14:24 |
| mac_v | hmm! i was using treeview-header! | 14:25 |
| mac_v | dashua: thanx :) | 14:25 |
| dashua | Np | 14:25 |
| mac_v | \o/ no pox | 14:27 |
| mac_v | dashua: you wanna propose Hanso for the community themes? | 14:30 |
| SiDi | I wnt it there | 14:58 |
| SiDi | and Alvaro too :D | 14:58 |
| SiDi | in blue shades with an xfwm.. :D | 14:59 |
| mac_v | SiDi: i think dashua is shy , we should start the initiative ;p | 15:04 |
| * mac_v surprised at mpt's presence in artwork room ;) hmm... maybe software store ;) | 15:12 | |
| mpt | yes indeed | 15:12 |
| mac_v | mpt: when can we actually test it ? | 15:13 |
| mac_v | is is out? | 15:13 |
| mac_v | it* | 15:13 |
| mpt | mac_v, it's in Karmic now: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store | 15:13 |
| mpt | I'm here because I've just added to the spec <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareStore> a few things that artists could help out with. | 15:14 |
| mac_v | i noticed ;) | 15:14 |
| mpt | At the moment we need an icon for the Store itself (!), an animated icon for "In Progress", and an emblem to place over applications that are already installed. | 15:14 |
| * mac_v missed the update by 1 hr :( , updating now | 15:14 | |
| mpt | Would it make sense for me to post to the artwork list about those things? | 15:15 |
| mac_v | mpt: mailing list would be the best start | 15:15 |
| mpt | ok, ta | 15:15 |
| andreasn | mpt, process-working for "In Progress" perhaps? | 15:18 |
| mpt | andreasn, is there any easy way to see how that icon looks in the various themes I have installed? | 15:18 |
| andreasn | apart from switching between the theme, not that I know of | 15:19 |
| andreasn | does any other theme apart from High Contrast have a spinner icon? | 15:19 |
| mpt | well, if it's in the same directory path in each theme, "eog /something/*/something.svg" might work :-) | 15:19 |
| mac_v | mpt: you can do as you ^ described , just assign the icons intended for the same item to different menu options [i.e label it differently] | 15:22 |
| mac_v | so if the menu has 5 items you can compare 5 different versions of the icon at once | 15:23 |
| mpt | but I have no idea where the themes are stored or what their directory structure is | 15:24 |
| mac_v | mpt: most apps have their icons in ~/.themes/themeName/24x24/apps/ , you need to ask mvo or who wrote the app about the icon labels | 15:26 |
| mac_v | mpt: oops! ~/.icons/themeName/24x24/apps/ | 15:27 |
| mpt | So all themes are installed in every user's home directory? I doubt that :-) | 15:27 |
| knome | /usr/share/icons/[theme]/24x24/apps/ | 15:28 |
| mac_v | the custom themes , the main themes are in | 15:28 |
| mac_v | ^ | 15:28 |
| mpt | ta | 15:31 |
| mac_v | mpt: sometimes apps also have their own directory , like for example gnome-power-manager has icons in /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons , these icons can be labelled accordingly and be used from a theme in your home directory, you first have to find out from mvo | 15:31 |
| mpt | got it | 15:35 |
| mpt | find /usr/share/icons/ -name process-working.png | xargs eog | 15:36 |
| mpt | andreasn, not really, though I'm having trouble articulating why. It's something like, process-working is for warning you about impending interface changes (e.g. changes in the layout of a Web page) during a brief task. But the icon I want is more about "yes, I'm doing the stuff you asked me to do". | 15:38 |
| mpt | andreasn, I guess it's much the same reason as why you wouldn't expect to see process-working in a download manager window. | 15:38 |
| andreasn | ah, yes, I guess it's for more brief processes | 15:39 |
| andreasn | but I have no idea how such a icon would look | 15:40 |
| mpt | well, I've described a suggested appearance in the spec, complete with extremely-low-resolution mockup :-) | 15:41 |
| mpt | t.b.h. I don't think it matters much what it looks like, as long as it looks different from, and more solid than, process-working. | 15:41 |
| mac_v | mpt: why is it in the universe repo ? and not as a part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package? | 15:47 |
| mpt | mac_v, it got into Ubuntu in the past day. It hasn't been through MIR yet. | 15:48 |
| mac_v | hehe... | 15:48 |
| dashua | mac_v, Do I need to make a wiki page for community theme inclusion? | 18:56 |
| dashua | Or just have the source code available via Launchpad? | 18:56 |
| mac_v | dashua: i think so , thorwil might be the best person about this | 18:56 |
| dashua | If so, I'll work on getting them together. I have a lot of things going on here. | 18:56 |
| dashua | Ok, I'm off to work. If you here anything just ping me. I'll be home later. :) | 18:57 |
| dashua | hear* | 18:57 |
| mac_v | thorwil: how doe a theme get included in community theme package? ^ | 18:58 |
| mac_v | does* | 18:58 |
| dashua | I would really like Hanso to make it in. Alvaro as well. | 18:58 |
| dashua | mac_v, I fixed the OOo bug, if you want to check it out. | 18:58 |
| thorwil | mac_v: well, it should be on the wiki | 18:59 |
| mac_v | dashua: ^ | 19:00 |
| thorwil | mac_v: for all else, better ask Andrew | 19:00 |
| dashua | Ok. I'll work on it soon. Thx. | 19:00 |
| mac_v | dashua: yeah , i did the same OOo mistake in my theme too ;) ,will check it out in a bit have to reboot [updates] | 19:00 |
| mac_v | thorwil: thanx :) | 19:00 |
| mac_v | thorwil: hi... are you working on the chasing arrows for software store? if not does it have to be done similar to the gnome process-working? | 19:14 |
| lucazade | thorwil i would thank you for mentioning turrican for the community themes | 19:14 |
| mac_v | thorwil: in the sense the number of icons in a single file | 19:15 |
| thorwil | mac_v: no and no idea | 19:15 |
| mac_v | hmm...ok. thanx | 19:15 |
| thorwil | lucazade: np :) | 19:16 |
| lucazade | :) | 19:16 |
| thorwil | mac_v: i will likely start a job tomorrow that might take 3 weeks. so don't expect to see much or anything from me ;) | 19:17 |
| mac_v | thorwil: great :) on the job .... too bad for me :( | 19:18 |
| mac_v | ;p | 19:18 |
| thorwil | heh | 19:19 |
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