[09:21] dashua: hi... is it possible to use 2 engines for 1 widget? [09:22] like for instance i dont like how murrine focusses the buttons , can i use clearlooks only for button focus? while the rest use murrine? [10:04] mac_v: for each entry in the gtkrc you can use a different engine [10:04] kwwii: \o/ hi... back? [10:06] kwwii: hmm... i'm messing up something then! i'm trying to use a pix map for the Focus , but either it uses pixmap engine or the murrine! i'll try to check where it is wrong [10:16] mac_v: nope, still on vacation, you just got lucky ;) [10:16] hrm, it might be the case that within one widget it cannot use more than one engine [10:17] I am working on my mac atm so I can't check [10:17] lol ;) [10:17] yeah thougth so too... but i'll double check [12:36] mac_v, Yes, change notebook engine "clearlooks" {} [12:38] Ah wait you want focus on the outside of the button [12:44] dashua: actually what i want is to use a pixmap for the focus alone , > http://paste.ubuntu.com/259252/ , but which ever is the second engine becomes the one used for everything :( [12:48] dashua: where can i find documentation for murrine engine? [12:49] I don't think you can combine two engines like that within a class. [12:49] yeah :( [12:49] So you want to use the murrine button with a pixmap focus entry [12:50] yup [12:50] http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/ [12:50] Somewhere on his site, I think it's limited [12:51] i went through that but > http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/options was all i found :( [12:55] dashua: let me know if you get any ideas for assigning a pix map for focus alone :) [12:55] Ok np. [13:06] mac_v, Can you send me tarball of your theme? I have an idea. [13:06] sure , just a sec [13:14] dashua: i'm having some problem with archive manager! it keeps crashing , do you want just the gtkrc? [13:15] or the i think you already have my theme , [13:16] I wanted the whole theme, pixmap for the focus and all. [13:17] yeah, someting is messing up my archive manager , i'll try somehow to get it to wirk :) [13:18] Ha alright np. [13:18] You want clearlooks focus on the outside of the button right? [13:18] dashua: i meant to get the archive manager to work , i have no new ideas for the theme ;p [13:19] I can't find the theme. [13:19] dashua: i'll get back in a sec... i'll boot int jaunty :) [13:19] into* [13:20] Ok [13:20] on karmic the archive manager is broken, just use "tar czf theme.tar.gz themefolder" [13:21] lucazade: hm... i'll try that first! too many apps to close ;) [13:21] :D [13:24] Working ok here. Maybe 64 bit is good. [13:30] dashua: its a big mess right now , > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/DSand.tar.gz < needs a lot of cleanup [13:30] Ok [13:31] dashua: does the archive exist properly? i mean any problems extracting? [13:31] lucazade: that didnt work for me either :( , but i fooled archive manager by adding files to an already existing archive and removing the existing files ;) [13:32] Nope. All good. [13:33] phew , that saved me from closing ~20 windows :D [13:40] http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/22874/screenshot_001_9wM2hk.png [13:40] Something like that? [13:41] dashua: yes but you changed the engine to clearlooks for the regular buttons too [13:41] I think it's packaged deal, unless you hack the engine. [13:42] a* [13:43] dashua: ah... then i think i'll have to use pix maps for all , hmm... so i'll have to create a button which looks identical to the murrine one o.0 [13:43] Yep [13:44] why cant life be easy :( [13:44] Hehe [13:44] Check out NewWave for pixmap help. That theme has it all. [13:45] yeah, everything is a pixmap in new wave , he really did a lot of work [13:46] Sure did. [13:47] dashua: the xchat users list... it is what type of widget? [13:47] Hrm, not sure. [14:09] mac_v should be GtkTreeView widget, i suppose [14:11] lucazade: do you use xchat? [14:11] yes [14:13] lucazade: ok , just test this out , any theme with clearlooks will have the user list just display names , but a theme with murrine engine displays dots in front of the names! is that correct or is it a bug in my install? [14:14] yes murrine displays dots [14:15] hmm ... [14:15] seems a bug [14:16] then i think its not treeview , because i have specifically assigned treeview to clearlooks , :( [14:16] * mac_v bangs his head [14:24] mac_v, Add style "treeview" { engine "clearlooks" { hint = "treeview" }} [14:24] and widget_class "*.*" style "treeview" [14:24] The dots will be gone [14:25] hmm! i was using treeview-header! [14:25] dashua: thanx :) [14:25] Np [14:27] \o/ no pox [14:30] dashua: you wanna propose Hanso for the community themes? [14:58] I wnt it there [14:58] and Alvaro too :D [14:59] in blue shades with an xfwm.. :D [15:04] SiDi: i think dashua is shy , we should start the initiative ;p [15:12] * mac_v surprised at mpt's presence in artwork room ;) hmm... maybe software store ;) [15:12] yes indeed [15:13] mpt: when can we actually test it ? [15:13] is is out? [15:13] it* [15:13] mac_v, it's in Karmic now: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store [15:14] I'm here because I've just added to the spec a few things that artists could help out with. [15:14] i noticed ;) [15:14] At the moment we need an icon for the Store itself (!), an animated icon for "In Progress", and an emblem to place over applications that are already installed. [15:14] * mac_v missed the update by 1 hr :( , updating now [15:15] Would it make sense for me to post to the artwork list about those things? [15:15] mpt: mailing list would be the best start [15:15] ok, ta [15:18] mpt, process-working for "In Progress" perhaps? [15:18] andreasn, is there any easy way to see how that icon looks in the various themes I have installed? [15:19] apart from switching between the theme, not that I know of [15:19] does any other theme apart from High Contrast have a spinner icon? [15:19] well, if it's in the same directory path in each theme, "eog /something/*/something.svg" might work :-) [15:22] mpt: you can do as you ^ described , just assign the icons intended for the same item to different menu options [i.e label it differently] [15:23] so if the menu has 5 items you can compare 5 different versions of the icon at once [15:24] but I have no idea where the themes are stored or what their directory structure is [15:26] mpt: most apps have their icons in ~/.themes/themeName/24x24/apps/ , you need to ask mvo or who wrote the app about the icon labels [15:27] mpt: oops! ~/.icons/themeName/24x24/apps/ [15:27] So all themes are installed in every user's home directory? I doubt that :-) [15:28] /usr/share/icons/[theme]/24x24/apps/ [15:28] the custom themes , the main themes are in [15:28] ^ [15:31] ta [15:31] mpt: sometimes apps also have their own directory , like for example gnome-power-manager has icons in /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/icons , these icons can be labelled accordingly and be used from a theme in your home directory, you first have to find out from mvo [15:35] got it [15:36] find /usr/share/icons/ -name process-working.png | xargs eog [15:38] andreasn, not really, though I'm having trouble articulating why. It's something like, process-working is for warning you about impending interface changes (e.g. changes in the layout of a Web page) during a brief task. But the icon I want is more about "yes, I'm doing the stuff you asked me to do". [15:38] andreasn, I guess it's much the same reason as why you wouldn't expect to see process-working in a download manager window. [15:39] ah, yes, I guess it's for more brief processes [15:40] but I have no idea how such a icon would look [15:41] well, I've described a suggested appearance in the spec, complete with extremely-low-resolution mockup :-) [15:41] t.b.h. I don't think it matters much what it looks like, as long as it looks different from, and more solid than, process-working. [15:47] mpt: why is it in the universe repo ? and not as a part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package? [15:48] mac_v, it got into Ubuntu in the past day. It hasn't been through MIR yet. [15:48] hehe... [18:56] mac_v, Do I need to make a wiki page for community theme inclusion? [18:56] Or just have the source code available via Launchpad? [18:56] dashua: i think so , thorwil might be the best person about this [18:56] If so, I'll work on getting them together. I have a lot of things going on here. [18:57] Ok, I'm off to work. If you here anything just ping me. I'll be home later. :) [18:57] hear* [18:58] thorwil: how doe a theme get included in community theme package? ^ [18:58] does* [18:58] I would really like Hanso to make it in. Alvaro as well. [18:58] mac_v, I fixed the OOo bug, if you want to check it out. [18:59] mac_v: well, it should be on the wiki [19:00] dashua: ^ [19:00] mac_v: for all else, better ask Andrew [19:00] Ok. I'll work on it soon. Thx. [19:00] dashua: yeah , i did the same OOo mistake in my theme too ;) ,will check it out in a bit have to reboot [updates] [19:00] thorwil: thanx :) [19:14] thorwil: hi... are you working on the chasing arrows for software store? if not does it have to be done similar to the gnome process-working? [19:14] thorwil i would thank you for mentioning turrican for the community themes [19:15] thorwil: in the sense the number of icons in a single file [19:15] mac_v: no and no idea [19:15] hmm...ok. thanx [19:16] lucazade: np :) [19:16] :) [19:17] mac_v: i will likely start a job tomorrow that might take 3 weeks. so don't expect to see much or anything from me ;) [19:18] thorwil: great :) on the job .... too bad for me :( [19:18] ;p [19:19] heh