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| dholbach | good morning | 06:46 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 15:07 |
| LimCore | hello | 15:16 |
| LimCore | When using alsa or pulse, my computer farts quietly instead playing sound | 15:17 |
| LimCore | since I didnt feed any beans to my computer, but I did upgrade (9.04 amd64) yesterday, I guess this could be related | 15:17 |
| LimCore | is this a known problem? | 15:17 |
| LimCore | only /dev/dsp works | 15:18 |
| LimCore | well, anyway - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/418644 | 15:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 418644 in pulseaudio "Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 ALSA and Pulse stoped working after upgrade " [Undecided,New] | 15:24 |
| LimCore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/418649 this is important, it makes it hard to debug X problems | 15:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 418649 in kdepim "kmail floods .xsession-errors" [Undecided,New] | 15:35 |
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| hggdh | LimCore, please, at least, state what version of kmail and Ubuntu you are running | 15:47 |
| LimCore | hggdh: as in the bug report, 9.04 amd64, fully up to date... this is obvious? | 16:30 |
| hggdh | LimCore, I may be missing something, but I see no '9.04' strings in there | 16:36 |
| hggdh | so, not obvious to me | 16:36 |
| LimCore | ah, the other bug | 16:37 |
| LimCore | updated | 16:37 |
| hggdh | LimCore, thank you | 16:38 |
| hggdh | LimCore, what about kmail? :-) | 16:39 |
| LimCore | hggdh: well, kmail floods my .xsession-errors with some bullshit | 16:55 |
| LimCore | that looks like debug messages | 16:55 |
| LimCore | unfrotunatelly then log stops working, and I can not see there why my session died (other bug) | 16:55 |
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| hggdh | LimCore, what kmail *version*? You should already know the drill: when opening a bug on a package, do give the versions used. | 17:08 |
| LimCore | just refresh ;) | 17:09 |
| LimCore | also, it is the version that is in 9.04 up to date | 17:10 |
| hggdh | LimCore, yes. Still, it has to be stated. Please do not assume everybody will know and expect the same you do. | 17:12 |
| lfaraone | Hey, Ubuntu-bug itself is crashing when I run it. How do I set it to verbose/debug mode so I can see what's going on? | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | lfaraone: are you getting any output when it crashes? | 18:08 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: well, it calls firefox, which then crashes. | 18:09 |
| lfaraone | *firefox then crashes. | 18:09 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: I have firefox running in the background. I can start new firefox windows with the "firefox http://someurl" command. But when apport/ubuntu-bug gets to the part where it hands off to firefox it dies with an X error | 18:10 |
| bdmurray | so, the tab never gets opened by ubuntu-bug? | 18:11 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: correct. | 18:12 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/259380/ | 18:12 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: odd, the problem just went away. | 18:13 |
| bdmurray | why are using sudo? | 18:14 |
| bdmurray | lfaraone: why are you using sudo w/ ubuntu-bug? | 18:17 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: well, I had tested it earlier to see if it crashed when run as root or if it was a problem with my local env vars. (my sudo is aliased to clear local variables other than DISPLAY) | 18:18 |
| lfaraone | bdmurray: it also crashed sans sudo. | 18:18 |
| mac_v | hmm... i have a weird problem, when i try to play sound in my user profile i can *not* get sound to play in 2 apps simultaneously , but when i create a new user , sound works fine and i can play several apps simultaneously! how do i solve this? | 18:46 |
| LimCore | hggdh: can we make kmail quickly to not full xsession-errors, because it stops me from reporting more important errors | 18:46 |
| * LimCore is tired of users complaining, why you upgraded to 9.04, 8.10 was working better... | 18:50 | |
| LimCore | flash, sound, speed, firefox, all seems to be just worse in 9.04 somehow. Most of which I reported in bugs btw. Just observation | 18:51 |
| LimCore | if something was apprently fixed (it works nowdays, didnt work before, but we never traced the exact problem), I set status to fix released or invalid? | 18:53 |
| hggdh | LimCore, it would be Fix Released, unknown fix. | 19:02 |
| hggdh | LimCore, on the kmail: I do not usually deal with KDE (and do not run kmail), so all I can do here is guarantee the minimum data is available for someone to confirm | 19:03 |
| hggdh | for the kmail bug, you may try to present your case to the #kubuntu channel | 19:05 |
| LimCore | thanks | 19:07 |
| hggdh | re. bug 418773 -- should I close it Invalid, or WONTFIX? | 19:25 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 418773 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] virtualbox, proprietary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418773 | 19:25 |
| * micahg was thinking that | 19:26 | |
| hggdh | yeah. I personally think WONTFIX is more to the point, but... | 19:26 |
| micahg | does the sun license prevent redistribution? | 19:26 |
| hggdh | well, the licence starts with "This license applies if you download the full VirtualBox binaries from the Downloads page." | 19:28 |
| hggdh | which can be constructed to mean "you can only download it from us. | 19:28 |
| micahg | yeah | 19:29 |
| hggdh | yes, it does restrict -- paragraph (3) states "any use beyond the provisions of paragraph (2) is prohibited. So, packaging is prohibited | 19:30 |
| * micahg would think won't fix with that quoted | 19:31 | |
| micahg | anyways, sun provides a deb repo | 19:31 |
| hggdh | yes. Closed wontfix | 19:32 |
| hggdh | dammit, closed the wrong bug :-( | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | boas | 21:15 |
| mac_v | pedro_: isnt bug Bug #417824 a medium importance bug? it impacts several core apps [panel,update manager, power manager] | 21:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 417824 in gnome-panel "Gnome-panel loads very late after session start" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417824 | 21:36 |
| mac_v | even session shutdown options are not displayed | 21:36 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, how changing the importance would make a difference there? | 21:37 |
| mac_v | pedro_: not a difference for the bug , but i'm trying to understand :) | 21:38 |
| mac_v | as to the reasons for your choice | 21:38 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, low is ok, you seems to be the only one facing the issue currently there's no confirmation from anybody else, and also i cannot reproduce the issue here locally | 21:38 |
| greg-g | stupid question: is there a performance hit if you have -dbgsym packages installed for an app? | 21:39 |
| greg-g | or performance difference? | 21:39 |
| mac_v | pedro_: hmm... hehe being to lone affectee , nice ;) | 21:39 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, haha yeah :-P | 21:40 |
| pedro_ | greg-g, i don't think so... are you having problems with any of those packages? | 21:40 |
| mac_v | hmm... i have a weird problem, when i try to play sound in my user profile i can *not* get sound to play in 2 apps simultaneously , but when i create a new user , sound works fine and i can play several apps simultaneously! how do i correct this? | 21:40 |
| mac_v | pedro_: if you dont mind me saying , your "thanx for sending upstream" response template is grammatically wrong. i forgot the exact wording , but i noticed it in several bugs | 21:43 |
| greg-g | pedro_: no, just wondering outloud. :) | 21:44 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, there's no template for it | 21:44 |
| pedro_ | greg-g, ah good ;-) | 21:44 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, do you want to make one? ;-) | 21:44 |
| mac_v | i think there is one , already , let me check | 21:45 |
| greg-g | I thought Bryce made one using grease monkey that automatically filled in the bug number, he blogged about it recently, I believe. | 21:47 |
| mac_v | oh , there is no template , thats a different upstreamed one | 21:47 |
| mac_v | pedro_: "Thank you for taking the time to report this bug upstream." how does that sound? | 21:50 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, sounds good to me | 21:55 |
| mac_v | pedro_: should i add it to the responses page then? | 21:56 |
| pedro_ | btw I've seen some reports where the reporter sent it upstream but didn't create an upstream task for it nor link it there | 21:56 |
| pedro_ | would be nice to create an stock response for that case | 21:56 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, sure, feel free to do it | 21:56 |
| mac_v | pedro_: how do we add for that? something that says, thank you but you should add it in the also affects link? | 21:58 |
| pedro_ | we can point them to the nice documentation we currently have for that | 21:58 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches | 21:59 |
| AnAnt_ | Hello, can someone look at LP 390292 | 21:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 390292 in console-setup "undefined kernel key code ( in karmic a2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390292 | 21:59 |
| mac_v | pedro_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/259500/ is this OK? | 22:07 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: hi... ^ for a response to members who have submitted but not linked upstream bug in lp | 22:08 |
| mac_v | hm... i was thinking of using "learn" instead of "read" , would that sound harsh? | 22:10 |
| greg-g | mac_v: this is what I was thinking of: http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/drupal/upstream-cgi | 22:11 |
| greg-g | and this http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/drupal/stock-replies-tips | 22:11 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: http://paste.ubuntu.com/259503/ | 22:13 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: sounds good :) , should i add it or ? | 22:15 |
| mac_v | greg-g: we are actually talking about the same thing ;) | 22:15 |
| bdmurray | mac_v: that'd be great | 22:16 |
| greg-g | mac_v: ahh :) serves me right for not reading the back log completely :) | 22:16 |
| mac_v | bdmurray: http://filebin.ca/zmjt/bugsquad-replies.xml , i have added it to the end | 22:39 |
| bcurtiswx | did that one guys wiki changes go into effect yet | 22:43 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: i think you got this mixed up> Bug #410278 | 23:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 410278 in notify-osd "[Feature request]Allow empathy conversation window to be minimized to notification area" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410278 | 23:00 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: notify-osd has nothing to do with the feature request | 23:00 |
| bcurtiswx | mac_v, i believe notify-osd is what takes care of that, not the applications themselves | 23:00 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: nope , notify-osd is just a notification daemon , just displays the bubbles | 23:01 |
| bcurtiswx | thats indicator applet then.. right? | 23:01 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: that is different too , but works for me ;) | 23:02 |
| bcurtiswx | so it would belong with that | 23:02 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm, i guess i have always thought the goal of indicator applet was to allow apps to be minimized (like empathy,evolution,gwibber) the ones that provide more frequent updates... | 23:03 |
| bcurtiswx | but i might be mistaken that the application has to support it on its own before it would work with the indicator applet | 23:03 |
| mac_v | yup | 23:04 |
| bcurtiswx | lemme see what the ayatana peeps have to say | 23:04 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: empathy does not have support for i-a yet :) | 23:04 |
| bcurtiswx | that i know, and i am gonna go fix the bug depending on my chat with the ayatana peeps | 23:05 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: sure , great \o/ | 23:05 |
| bcurtiswx | unless you already know the answer to my question and im just being dumb here :P | 23:07 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: minimizing is one of the features of messaging menu , but just has not been done by the devs :) , BTW the emapthy Bug #340180 | 23:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 340180 in empathy "Please provide indicator-applet support in empathy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340180 | 23:08 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: lol look who's here ;) > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#Unresolved%20issues | 23:09 |
| mac_v | i think mpt added your name from a question you asked somewhere :) | 23:09 |
| bcurtiswx | mac_v: yeah... and look whats still not done... i asked that a long time ago | 23:10 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: its not done because no dev has cared to do it , but mp wants to implement it | 23:10 |
| bcurtiswx | but it looks like they want to push empathy into the indicator applet... hmm.. makes this a much more complicated bug | 23:10 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: pls fix it :) | 23:11 |
| bcurtiswx | i _could_ keep it open for both empathy and indicator applet.. in hopes one gets to it first | 23:11 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: last i heard from mpt , that was what he said , thats why it has been added to the unresolved issues. | 23:12 |
| bcurtiswx | mac_v, look satisfactory to your liking now? | 23:17 |
| hggdh | dtchen, ping -- do you have a possible schedule? | 23:18 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: just a small fish , anything goes , :) | 23:18 |
| bcurtiswx | mac_v, i just want to make sure i put myself into your mindset well enough to get this to where you want it | 23:19 |
| mac_v | bcurtiswx: BTW , its mirco who gets frustrated when bugs are wrongly assigned to notify-osd | 23:19 |
| bcurtiswx | i will make sure to duck if he throws anything sharp at my head :D | 23:20 |
| mac_v | hehe , ;) | 23:23 |
| dtchen | hggdh: friday evening EST is likely best to work for me | 23:24 |
| dtchen | hggdh: sorry, EDT. let's shoot for 1800 EDT, which is 2200 UTC. | 23:24 |
| Ueland_2 | bloddy timezones :P | 23:25 |
| hggdh | dtchen, thank you. I will be MIA -- traveling back home, but I will try to set it up on -classroom | 23:25 |
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| mac_v | dtchen: hi... which irc room can i contact Eric Hedekar (stochastic) , | 23:30 |
| stochastic | mac_v, I'm here | 23:30 |
| hggdh | so, to answer, #ubuntu-bugs ;-) | 23:31 |
| mac_v | stochastic: hi... i'm really sorry , i just deleted the folders , just 2 mins ago :( | 23:31 |
| stochastic | mac_v, shouldda made backups ;) maybe someone else with the bug will post theirs | 23:32 |
| mac_v | stochastic: i had the folders for nearly a day! but yeah. | 23:32 |
| mac_v | hggdh: ;p | 23:34 |
| mac_v | stochastic: BTW why does the daemon.conf use ";" instead of "#" for commenting? or am i understanding the purpose wrong? | 23:37 |
| stochastic | mac_v either one works for commenting | 23:41 |
| mac_v | hm... | 23:41 |
| hggdh | dtchen, just confirming, we are set for Firday Aug 28, at 1800 EDT, 2200 Z | 23:49 |
| bcurtiswx | a date???? :P | 23:50 |
| hggdh | yes! | 23:51 |
| bcurtiswx | not to sound rude.. hggdh you are M or F ? | 23:52 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, yes :-D | 23:53 |
| bcurtiswx | hahaha | 23:53 |
| bcurtiswx | you got me | 23:53 |
| bcurtiswx | which one? | 23:53 |
| hggdh | the one I was born with... | 23:53 |
| hggdh | ah, ok | 23:54 |
| hggdh | M | 23:54 |
| bcurtiswx | ok | 23:54 |
| micahg1 | so 5PM Friday? | 23:54 |
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| micahg | that looks silly | 23:54 |
| micahg | hggdh: will it be logged? | 23:54 |
| hggdh | micahg, yes, 1700, or 17:00, or 5PM | 23:54 |
| bcurtiswx | what r u talking about? | 23:55 |
| hggdh | I will try to get it logged -- after all, I will be traveling at this time, and would very much get it later | 23:55 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, a training on triaging sound bugs | 23:55 |
| bcurtiswx | ah, where at? | 23:55 |
| hggdh | micahg, of course, CDT time | 23:55 |
| bcurtiswx | the T = time | 23:56 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, this is what I am trying to get. Worst scenario, #ubuntu-bugs, but I would prefer #ubuntu-classroom | 23:56 |
| bcurtiswx | ah ok | 23:58 |
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