[00:56] <micahg> does anyone know of a smartphone list that can run Ubuntu Mobile?
[01:03] <jmc93739653> micahg: Ubuntu Mobile has, up toward the present, been an x86 only, distribution variant.
[01:03] <jmc93739653> micahg: [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Mobile
[01:04] <micahg> ok, is there a channel for MID?
[01:04] <jmc93739653> micahg: [1] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/mobile/
[01:05]  * micahg wants to run ubuntu on a smartphone
[01:06] <jmc93739653> This is the place  for MIDs and higher-end mobile handsets.  :)  From what bits of information I have,  there are efforts underway to add ARM along-side x86 for the next Ubuntu Mobile release.
[01:07] <micahg> ok, any idea which phones that would work for?
[01:07] <micahg> would it be able to work as a normal handset as well?
[01:08] <micahg> after the Palm Pre phoning home blog post, I'd like to know what's installed on my phone
[01:10] <playya_> which processor is in the palm pre?
[01:10] <micahg> idk
[01:10] <micahg> I don't want to buy it anymore
[01:10] <micahg> I'd rather get a phone that can run Ubuntu
[01:11] <playya_> you need at least a arm5 processor
[01:11] <playya_> but maybe you want to join #ubuntu-arm
[01:16] <jmc93739653> playya_: The Palm Pre uses a TI OMAP3430, if I'm recalling properly.  (The iPhone 3GS does too, I believe)
[01:17] <micahg> thanks, I'm asking in #ubuntu-arm
[01:18] <playya_> ok. jmc93739653 thats the same as the n800?
[01:18] <playya_> btw. nokia gave a preview on n900
[01:20] <jmc93739653> playya_: The N900 uses the TI OMAP3430, the N800 & N810 used up Nokia's excess inventory of OMAP2420's  :)
[01:21] <playya_> ok
[01:21] <playya_> i'll buy a palm pre
[01:21] <playya_> and maybe i should focus on some n800 projects to get one of those cheap n900s
[01:23] <jmc93739653> playya_: I want to see images of the N900's screen.  1024x600?  OLED or AMOLED screen, or a newer spin on the N810's transflective LCD?  And the keyboard with backlighting.
[01:24] <playya_> n900 has one thing I'm missing in my n800: a GSM modem
[01:28] <jmc93739653> playya_: Deutsche Telekom (AKA T-Mobile) is planning on rolling out N900's bundled with data plans.
[01:30] <playya_> grrr. i sign my next contract with o2
[01:30] <playya_> atm its vodafone and i want to leave these bit***
[02:06] <jmc93739653> playya_: You could be rocking a fantastically low-end "pre-pay as you go" Motorola flip-phone like me :)
[02:07] <playya_> no. i want to run ubuntu/openmoko on it
[02:08] <playya_> and i'll keep my n95 or freerunner as primary device jmc93739653 
[02:09] <jmc93739653> playya_: I would too, if I were you :)  Ironically, Nokia paid for 3D acceleration drivers for the N95, but decided not to do so for the N96.
[02:10] <playya_> but the prototypes used the accelerations
[02:28] <jmc93739653> playya_: I'm just an average nerd.  The closest I've been to a mobile handset prototypes have been through FCC RF-emission compliance tests, whispered code-names or leaked photos.  :-/
[02:31] <playya_> i worked for nokia during my practical semester and they already had n96, n86, n810, ...
[02:31] <playya_> and some other cool stuff
[02:40] <jmc93739653> playya_: Very nice.  :)
[02:40] <jmc93739653> playya_: I've had Android running on the N800.  As well as native N800 "Diablo" NAND images running on QEMU.
[02:40] <jmc93739653> playya_: I was impressed by the performance of earlier Android images -- running it natively on a 400 MHz ARMv6 was by _far_ faster than Android via QEMU-0.8.x on a 2000 MHz x86 (Dothan, 90 nm, 2048 KiB L2).
[02:41] <playya_> i had it once on my freerunner
[02:41] <playya_> but i switched back to shr for development jmc93739653 
[02:50] <jmc93739653> playya_: The "N800 vs. Pentium-M 755" boxing-match had TI's OMAP2420 flat-out _embarrassing_ one of the more elegant, and aggressively single-thread/integer-perf. tuned x86 CPUs to hit mass production.
[02:52] <jmc93739653> playya_: I keep waiting for consumer-level, Freescale i.MX51 family devices to get to market. But the schedule keeps slipping.
[13:11] <AD-N770> hello all
[13:12] <AD-N770> there's ubuntu developers involved with belmont on that channel ?