| bdrung_ | (need one night to grab all) :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| bdrung_ | xnox: + 1,2 GiB from my ppas | 00:00 |
| * stochastic throws his hands up in a moment of "I give up" frustration, but thanks bdrung_ for all his help thus far. | 00:03 | |
| bdrung_ | yw | 00:03 |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: the problem is that the patch is already applied to this file | 00:05 |
| * stochastic is new to dpatch and doesn't understand what he's done wrong | 00:06 | |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: you could use quilt instead | 00:09 |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: or if you want a very simple patch system, you could use cdbs + simple-patchsys | 00:09 |
| stochastic | I don't know quilt and the docs said it's much more difficult to setup | 00:09 |
| stochastic | is there something wrong with dpatch? | 00:09 |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: i don't know if it is dpatch's fault or caused by something else. | 00:10 |
| stochastic | bdrung_ well I guess i have no other option than to give up on this package | 00:15 |
| stochastic | bdrung_ thanks anyway | 00:15 |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: if you ask me tomorrow i may digg into this issue | 00:16 |
| stochastic | dtchen, thanks for adding ubuntu-devel to the Jack in Main discussion | 00:17 |
| dtchen | stochastic: np | 00:17 |
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| stochastic | bdrung, could you test out the latest upload? | 00:29 |
| bdrung | yes | 00:29 |
| bdrung | stochastic: same issue | 00:32 |
| bdrung | stochastic: remove the autogen.sh call. it is not necessary (the configure file exists) | 00:35 |
| stochastic | bdrung, removed and uploaded | 00:39 |
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| bdrung | stochastic: i have fixed the rebuild bug (i broke the butterfly on the wheel) | 00:48 |
| bdrung | Zhenech: got my mail? | 01:11 |
| sbalneav | Hello. I'm having a problem working on a package for a backport to hardy. The upstream tarball requires that I patch up some build requirements in configure.ac and rerun autoconf before the package will build. Does anyone know the correct debian/rules magic for that? | 01:28 |
| bdrung | sbalneav: you have to run autoreconf before you run ./configure | 01:39 |
| bdrung | sbalneav: you may want to use a patch system for the patch | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | The package itself uses cdbs | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | have you got an example you could point me at? | 01:41 |
| bdrung | sbalneav: for autoconf there are some variables, you could set | 01:42 |
| sbalneav | the configure.ac basically defines a couple of "minimum" package levels. The package works fine with older versions, so I just need to bump them down. | 01:44 |
| bdrung | sbalneav: you can set DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_AUTOCONF to the version you want | 01:44 |
| bdrung | sbalneav: which package? | 01:45 |
| sbalneav | sabayon. | 01:45 |
| sbalneav | I've been working getting a version going for karmic, but many people would like a version for hardy. | 01:46 |
| sbalneav | I'd like to create a backport in my ppa. | 01:46 |
| bdrung_ | sbalneav: try to add "DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_AUTOCONF := 2.61" to your rules file | 01:51 |
| sbalneav | ok | 01:51 |
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| stochastic | would any motu with a spare minute please glance through http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo | 06:08 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:47 |
| fabrice_sp | good morning dholbach :-) | 07:26 |
| dholbach | hiya fabrice_sp! | 07:26 |
| iulian | Morning dholbach, fabrice_sp. | 07:26 |
| dholbach | hey iulian | 07:26 |
| fabrice_sp | good morning iulian | 07:26 |
| dholbach | looks like we could do a bit of sponsoring before feature freeze :) | 07:26 |
| iulian | Indeed. | 07:27 |
| fabrice_sp | speaking about sponsoring :-) | 07:27 |
| dholbach | yes? :) | 07:27 |
| fabrice_sp | about bug #416262 : I don't think aptoncd will make his path to Debian before FF, so I propose to update the package in Ubuntu | 07:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416262 in aptoncd "Please update aptoncd to version 0.1.98+bzr112" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416262 | 07:27 |
| fabrice_sp | it's the same content as the Debian upload, but the package has not being sponsored yet, and I'm travelling this morning, until 3rd of Sptember (Holidays! :-) ) | 07:29 |
| dholbach | fabrice_sp: nice! enjoy your holidays! | 07:30 |
| dholbach | where are you going? | 07:30 |
| dholbach | brb | 07:33 |
| warner | hey, quick question. dput reported a successful upload of my four packages (foolscap, zfec, pycryptopp, tahoe) to revu.ubuntuwire.com several hours ago, but I'm not seeing them on the REVU "New Packages" list. Is there anywhere I should look to find out about upload errors? | 07:35 |
| fabrice_sp | dholbach, thanks :-) I'm going to Canary's Island ;-) | 07:39 |
| dholbach | nice :) | 07:41 |
| warner | iulian: zooko said I should ping you once the Tahoe packages were uploaded, but I'm not sure if you'll be able to see them yet | 07:41 |
| iulian | warner: Have you uploaded them to REVU? | 07:43 |
| warner | yes, in theory, although I'm not seeing them on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com | 07:44 |
| warner | (dput reported success, to the right server) | 07:44 |
| iulian | jpds: ^^ | 07:44 |
| iulian | Or any other REVU admin. | 07:45 |
| warner | the only thing I can think of is that my launchpad email address is slightly different than the package's debian/changelog's top-most address | 07:46 |
| warner | but they're all signed by the same GPG key that I registered with launchpad this afternoon | 07:46 |
| iulian | warner: Have you logged in to REVU? | 07:47 |
| warner | yup, the page says "Logged in as warner." at the top right now | 07:48 |
| iulian | Hmm, no idea. You'll have to talk to a REVU admin (already pinged one). | 07:49 |
| warner | thanks | 07:49 |
| warner | iulian: do you know offhand if you or zooko filed ITPs for these packages? I don't know how to search launchpad for them (being more familiar with debian, myself). I don't have proper Closes:/LP: entries in the package changelogs yet. | 07:50 |
| iulian | warner: I cannot remember, sorry. | 07:51 |
| warner | s'ok, thanks | 07:51 |
| warner | is there a launchpad ITP page? | 07:51 |
| lifeless | no | 07:52 |
| lifeless | its not structurally different to other bugs | 07:52 |
| lifeless | also ITP is a bit of a buggy concept | 07:52 |
| lifeless | RFP is sensible, as is REVU, but declaring intent... may as well JFDI | 07:53 |
| * warner nods | 07:53 | |
| warner | so the "LP:" entry in the changelog is defined as closing an RFP bug as opposed to an "ITP" bug? | 07:53 |
| warner | and such RFP bugs are to be found.. filed under the submitter's proposed package name? | 07:54 |
| lifeless | personally, I don't bother having an initial bug to close. | 07:54 |
| lifeless | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 07:55 |
| warner | great! I'll ignore that lintian warning then :) | 07:55 |
| lifeless | it says to file one, but like I say.. meh. | 07:55 |
| * lifeless waits for the flames | 07:56 | |
| warner | I'll quote you when the REVU comments start coming in, then :) | 07:56 |
| warner | ah, tahoe has a needs-packaging bug filed already, #417136 | 07:57 |
| * warner updates the changelog | 07:57 | |
| lifeless | right, if there is one definitely close it. | 07:58 |
| warner | and zfec has #289430 .. | 07:58 |
| lifeless | But creating a bug saying I'm doing X, only to close it a few minutes later is well... nuts. | 07:58 |
| lifeless | its like writing a note while you do the dishes saying "I'm doing the dishes" | 07:59 |
| warner | huh, sounds like twitter :) | 07:59 |
| lifeless | shudder | 07:59 |
| lifeless | so buildbot. Unit tests. | 07:59 |
| lifeless | (I do have the right person don't I?) | 07:59 |
| warner | um | 08:00 |
| * warner looks shifty | 08:00 | |
| warner | sure, shoot | 08:00 |
| lifeless | so, have you seen subunit? | 08:00 |
| warner | nope | 08:01 |
| lifeless | https://launchpad.net/subunit/ | 08:01 |
| lifeless | project of mine. | 08:01 |
| warner | cool. should we take this to #buildbot ? | 08:01 |
| warner | huh, weird that the two needs-packaging bugs have numbers that are so far apart | 08:06 |
| siretart | any emacs fans around? | 08:17 |
| lifeless | hahaha | 08:17 |
| lifeless | oops, did I type that out loud? | 08:18 |
| siretart | if yes, please package emacs23, using the package from debian before thursday | 08:18 |
| siretart | lifeless: I bet you did :) | 08:18 |
| StevenK | siretart: Uh huh, did you even read the sync request bug about emacs23 from Debian? | 08:34 |
| siretart | StevenK: ups? no. do you have the bug no at hand? | 08:51 |
| StevenK | siretart: Bug 408085 | 08:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408085 in ubuntu "Sync emacs23 23.1+1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408085 | 08:52 |
| siretart | thanks | 08:53 |
| siretart | StevenK: ah, ok. best would probably be not a plain sync, but a hard dependency on the non-dfsg-free docs (they are fsf-free) | 08:54 |
| StevenK | siretart: Then say so, and deal with the bug | 08:55 |
| * SiDi is looking for an Ubuntu maintainer for Exaile, please pm me if you want to help. Thanks in advance. | 09:32 | |
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| sluimers | I know it's a stupid question but, what does MOTU stand for? | 10:55 |
| \sh | sluimers: Masters Of The Universe | 10:56 |
| sluimers | cool, and do they package stuff and put it in the Ubuntu archive? Because that's what it looks like to me. | 10:57 |
| sluimers | Anyway, I have a little problem and I got sent here. | 10:58 |
| \sh | sluimers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU <- all you need to know about MOTU | 10:59 |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: i have fixed the rebuild bug (i broke the butterfly on the wheel) | 11:02 |
| * sluimers reads some more from MOTU | 11:02 | |
| bdrung_ | stochastic: here is what i did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/259208/ | 11:03 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, what happened to python-xml package ? | 11:38 |
| iulian | It got removed a long time ago IIRC. | 11:41 |
| geser | Deleted on 2009-06-08: obsolete and broken; reverse-deps must be migrated to core python modules. LP: #343242 | 11:42 |
| AnAnt | geser: thanks | 11:45 |
| AnAnt | ah, the bug is still open | 11:47 |
| AnAnt | reopened rather | 11:48 |
| AnAnt | oh, won't fix | 11:48 |
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| AnAnt | ok, python2.6 would do ! | 12:01 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 12:01 |
| Q-FUNK | hi! I'd be interested in feedback on MartinEricRacine/UploadRightsApplication especially on how it's supposed to differ from my previous (succesful) application as ubuntu member. | 12:06 |
| gnomefreak | is there a reason we dont support lexmark hardware? | 12:11 |
| directhex | lack of drivers, at a guess? | 12:12 |
| gnomefreak | thier site doesnt have linux drivers that i can see nor tarball so i am pretty much out of luck? | 12:14 |
| directhex | very likely. how's the printer db on openprinting look? | 12:15 |
| directhex | some companies are more pro-linux than others with their printers. lexmark stuggle to be pro-windows, let alone anything else | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | maybe ill try nspluginwrapper | 12:17 |
| directhex | nspluginwrapper? i'm not sure how loading 32-bit flash in 64-bit firefox will help | 12:20 |
| directhex | which model? http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Lexmark suggests about 50% should work | 12:21 |
| gnomefreak | x6150 | 12:23 |
| gnomefreak | directhex: thanks for the link looking at it atm | 12:24 |
| gnomefreak | no known scanner drivers :( | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | directhex: its not nspluginwrapper sorry wrong thing. i cant recall the name of the package im looking for that will run .exe drivers | 12:31 |
| directhex | gnomefreak, ndiswrapper. note that "ndis" means "Network Driver Interface Specification" | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | directhex: yeah i saw that and i remember that is what i used to set up wifi | 12:34 |
| james_w | error: plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/buil | 12:39 |
| james_w | der/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder/plugins/builder: Too many levels of symbolic links | 12:39 |
| james_w | oops | 12:39 |
| soren | Oh, dear :) | 12:42 |
| soren | directhex: Lexmark used to be /very/ Windows-only, but at some point they started writing and releasing Linux drivers themselves. | 12:43 |
| soren | directhex: This must have been in 2001-ish. | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | soren: sort of | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | atleast i cant find the scanner drivers for it i already have too many printers | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | i guess im going to use it on wmy win box and just email it to myself | 12:47 |
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| james_w | anybody have a minute for a review of http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/lazr.restfulclient ? | 13:13 |
| james_w | needed for the new launchpadlib | 13:13 |
| ttx | james_w: about bug 416420 | 13:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416420 in backport-util-concurrent "Sync backport-util-concurrent 3.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416420 | 13:14 |
| james_w | hey ttx | 13:15 |
| ttx | james_w: hey :) | 13:15 |
| ttx | james_w: that sounds like a bad idea because it brings all the new maven-repo-helper infra into main, through eucalyptus | 13:15 |
| ttx | furthermore version 3 is untested | 13:15 |
| james_w | feel free to back it out | 13:15 |
| ttx | james_w: how should I proceed to do that ? | 13:16 |
| james_w | it was ACKed my a MOTU and looked sane, I don't invest any further than that in sync requests | 13:16 |
| james_w | depends how much you want to revert | 13:16 |
| ttx | well, going back to where it was 24 hours ago, is it possible ? | 13:16 |
| james_w | if you just want to go back to the previous package then you can grab that from lp, increment the version with some sort of "really" version number and upload it | 13:16 |
| ttx | hmmm | 13:17 |
| james_w | source package is on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backport-util-concurrent/2.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1 | 13:17 |
| ttx | I'll try the middle way, try to see if we can work with the new version and just revert the new maven-repo stuff | 13:18 |
| ttx | if we can't, I'll play the "really" trick | 13:18 |
| ttx | james_w: thanks | 13:18 |
| james_w | np | 13:21 |
| iulian | james_w: The information from README.txt is already included in HACKING.txt. Do you want this? | 13:21 |
| james_w | iulian: you mean the license text? | 13:23 |
| iulian | james_w: Yup. | 13:24 |
| james_w | dropped README.txt | 13:24 |
| iulian | james_w: Go ahead and upload. | 13:26 |
| james_w | thanks iulian | 13:26 |
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| iulian | Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. | 13:43 |
| iulian | Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager | 13:43 |
| iulian | Weird. | 13:43 |
| iulian | Theme changed automatically and when I tried to set it back I got this message. | 13:44 |
| geser | james_w: you seems to be missing XS-Python-Version and XB-Python-Version in lazr.restfulclient so it only gets available for python2.6 (see also the depends on python; and the lintian warning) | 13:51 |
| james_w | thanks geser | 14:02 |
| geser | james_w: and the \ in "python setup.py install --root=\$(CURDIR)..." looks also misplaced | 14:03 |
| geser | james_w: and I see now that python is twice in Build-Depends | 14:04 |
| * hyperair grumbles about liferea being unresponsive and slow | 14:13 | |
| james_w | thanks geser | 14:14 |
| pochu | hyperair: :( | 14:14 |
| hyperair | pochu: :( | 14:14 |
| hyperair | pochu: it seems to like churning up my hard disk and hanging. | 14:14 |
| pochu | hyperair: 1.6? | 14:17 |
| hyperair | pochu: ye, 1.6 | 14:19 |
| zooko | iulian: hello! My partner Brian Warner built Debian packages for Tahoe-LAFS and uploded them to REVU. :-) | 14:39 |
| zooko | Time for me to walk my children to school... | 14:42 |
| === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung | ||
| jtimberman | Chef and other packages it depends on look to be going into Karmic (uploaded to NEW or already in). Is there a document that describes how to get universe packages backported (I'm willing to do the packaging of course) to LTS and other releases? | 15:00 |
| ghostcube | fta: when does youre daily build repo get updated normally for songbird | 15:01 |
| === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks | ||
| ScottK | !backports | jtimberman | 15:06 |
| ubottu | jtimberman: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 15:06 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:07 |
| ScottK | Heya bddebian. | 15:08 |
| bddebian | Hi ScottK | 15:08 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 15:09 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty|work | 15:11 |
| lfaraone | Hey, if a MOTU acks a sync request, why does it still need to be manually reviewed by a Archive Admin? | 15:26 |
| james_w | what do you mean? | 15:27 |
| geser | lfaraone: not reviewed, but processed | 15:27 |
| james_w | it's a manual process of processing them | 15:27 |
| james_w | and that involves checking that it has an ACK etc. | 15:27 |
| lfaraone | james_w: would it be difficult to create criteria that would make it automagic? | 15:27 |
| james_w | and sometimes you spot something, and surely it's better to comment then? | 15:27 |
| james_w | yeah | 15:27 |
| james_w | the fact that LP doesn't support syncing entirely within LP yet | 15:28 |
| jtimberman | manual process of uploading i recall is deliberate. | 15:28 |
| jtimberman | at least from the debian side. | 15:28 |
| lfaraone | james_w: Well, "if reporter is in MOTU and report is assigned to AA, and is set by member of MOTU to "confirmed""... | 15:28 |
| james_w | you could cron it, but as we are using bugs there are too many corner cases... | 15:28 |
| james_w | lfaraone: what about the process bothers you? | 15:30 |
| SiDi | Noob question : if i'm packaging an plugin from an app X that is python based, should i add python to the plugin's deps, knowing that it already depends on X ? | 15:30 |
| RoAkSoAx | ivoks, you busy? | 15:30 |
| lfaraone | james_w: well, it seems to be inefficient, and I suffer from impatience. (such mundane tasks should, imho, be automated) | 15:31 |
| lfaraone | SiDi: Yes. | 15:31 |
| james_w | lfaraone: yes, they should, and there is work underway to do so | 15:31 |
| ivoks | RoAkSoAx: yes | 15:36 |
| SiDi | lfaraone, okey, thanks | 15:40 |
| lfaraone | james_w: Okay. | 15:40 |
| JontheEchidna | POX_: ping | 15:43 |
| POX_ | JontheEchidna: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around. | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | POX_: Hey, seems kadu ftbfs with the latest gcc. I found a patch here that should fix it: http://starowa.one.pl/~uzi/kadu/kadu-gcc44.patch | 15:44 |
| JontheEchidna | google-translated forum post: http://tinyurl.com/lkthqq | 15:44 |
| mpt | Hi folks. Is there a bug tag already being used for packages that have unhelpful summaries or descriptions? | 15:50 |
| mpt | And if not, what would be a good name for this tag? :-) | 15:50 |
| james_w | mpt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags | 15:51 |
| james_w | so no, apparently not | 15:51 |
| mpt | apart from 'string-fix', tangentially | 15:52 |
| james_w | that would work | 15:52 |
| mpt | and 'desktop-file', for applications | 15:52 |
| james_w | though it may be more of "rewrite the description" rather than "it should be theirs and not there's" | 15:53 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: 'unhelpful' would be a good name, but i'm sure that's not PC ;) | 15:53 |
| james_w | why not? | 15:53 |
| james_w | "unhelpful-description" if you want to avoid every bug being tagged that :-) | 15:53 |
| mpt | Actually I was thinking of spelling/grammar/layout errors as well | 15:54 |
| Hobbsee | james_w: something about not being positive enough | 15:54 |
| james_w | mpt: string-fix would seem to be appropriate then | 15:55 |
| mpt | "description" would be a bit too specific, but "metadata" would be too vague | 15:55 |
| james_w | I thought you were looking more specifically | 15:55 |
| sistpoty|work | huhu siretart, I already found a sponsor, DktrKranz will make use of his new DD powers :) | 15:55 |
| siretart | DktrKranz: congrats :-) | 15:56 |
| siretart | sistpoty|work: :-) | 15:56 |
| DktrKranz | siretart: thanks :) | 15:58 |
| DktrKranz | I'm not the only MOTU to cheer ;) | 15:58 |
| DktrKranz | sistpoty|work: btw, if you're in a hurry, please go ahead :) | 15:59 |
| sistpoty|work | DktrKranz: no, I'm not in a hurry :) | 15:59 |
| POX_ | JontheEchidna: kadu should work fine with GCC 4.4 since 0.6.5.2-2 (dunno what version Ubuntu has). BTW: patryk is now a DD so I no longer sponsor kadu | 16:01 |
| Laney | what are we congratulating DktrKranz for? | 16:01 |
| POX_ | please ask for a sync with Debian | 16:01 |
| POX_ | Laney: he's a DD now | 16:01 |
| porthose | DktrKranz, congrats! :) | 16:02 |
| DktrKranz | do not forget pochu, he's DD too | 16:02 |
| Laney | oh, nice! | 16:02 |
| sistpoty|work | congrats, pochu! | 16:02 |
| directhex | and direc, no, wait :( | 16:02 |
| Laney | sponsor stuff plz | 16:03 |
| directhex | yeah, DktrKranz is the new debian mono & haskell sponsor! | 16:03 |
| pochu | sistpoty|work, Laney: ty! | 16:03 |
| sistpoty|work | directhex: maybe mono gets you penalties in NM :P | 16:03 |
| slytherin | for person in motu_list if DD=yes then congratulations. :-) | 16:03 |
| DktrKranz | directhex: haha | 16:04 |
| directhex | sistpoty|work, i'd need to check the list of current front desk people to know how much reality matches that | 16:04 |
| sistpoty|work | heh | 16:04 |
| Laney | schestow...oh crap | 16:04 |
| slytherin | dholbach: ping | 16:04 |
| DktrKranz | porthose: thanks | 16:05 |
| DktrKranz | :) | 16:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | congrats DktrKranz | 16:05 |
| DktrKranz | hey RoAkSoAx, thanks | 16:06 |
| dholbach | slytherin: pong | 16:06 |
| jbernard__ | does anyone have some time to revu libcgroup (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libcgroup)? | 16:06 |
| DktrKranz | RoAkSoAx: btw, advocated lekhonee | 16:06 |
| === sebner changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Jaunty is released | Time for SRUs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru/ | Development of Karmic Koala has started -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ . Luca Falavigna (DktrKranz) is now officially Debian Developer! HUG HIM! | ||
| slytherin | dholbach: ttf-indic-fonts needs a merge. One of the fonts have been deemed non-free and removed from the package. I would do it myself but I do not have good understanding of package structure. | 16:07 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: congratulations! mauahahahaha | 16:07 |
| RoAkSoAx | DktrKranz, yeah I saw it, thanks a lot!! I'm on my search for another advocator :) | 16:07 |
| dholbach | slytherin: hum... can you have a chat with ArneGoetje about that? | 16:07 |
| slytherin | Via email? | 16:07 |
| dholbach | as he's based in Taiwan he might be off the internet now | 16:08 |
| slytherin | DktrKranz: Congrats. | 16:08 |
| slytherin | dholbach: I will try the merge on weekend then. | 16:08 |
| DktrKranz | sebner: thanks, but no need a topic for that (and you forgot emilio, btw) | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | POX_: We synced -4, still fails | 16:08 |
| dholbach | slytherin: super, thanks | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | POX_: thanks for the heads up about maintainership, tho | 16:09 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: your idea, your fault :P emilio? | 16:10 |
| Laney | so yeah | 16:10 |
| Laney | about goocanvasmm in pkg-gnome svn... ;) | 16:11 |
| DktrKranz | sebner: my idea? :P... pochu is DD too | 16:11 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: Oh really? I have to send new emails too to the dev-lists :P | 16:11 |
| DktrKranz | LOL | 16:11 |
| dholbach | congrats DktrKranz | 16:13 |
| pochu | sebner: no need for it :) | 16:13 |
| sebner | pochu: upps, just sent the mails :P Congrats also from me | 16:14 |
| pochu | thanks :) hope to see you in the queue at som epoint ;) | 16:15 |
| === sebner changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Jaunty is released | Time for SRUs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru/ | Development of Karmic Koala has started -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ . Luca Falavigna (DktrKranz) and Jaunty is released | Time for SRUs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru/ | Development of Karmic Koala has started -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved | ||
| sebner | pochu: too late :P | 16:15 |
| pochu | DktrKranz: you're released! \o/ | 16:15 |
| * cody-somerville hugs pochu and DktrKranz. | 16:15 | |
| DktrKranz | sebner: I have to find a good hideout now :) | 16:16 |
| sebner | pochu: DM at some point this year | 16:16 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: yeah, mail replies are starting \o/ | 16:16 |
| pochu | sebner: party, yohoo! | 16:16 |
| RoAkSoAx | congrats pochu | 16:16 |
| Laney | I never saw the mail on debian-newmaint | 16:17 |
| Laney | where was it announced? | 16:17 |
| pochu | topic> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ . Luca Falavigna (DktrKranz) and Jaunty is released | 16:17 |
| pochu | maybe it's not yet | 16:17 |
| Laney | alreet | 16:17 |
| DktrKranz | Laney: you got a welcome mail once your account is created | 16:17 |
| DktrKranz | *get | 16:17 |
| Laney | ah | 16:18 |
| DktrKranz | s/welcome/2_pages_long_here_what_you_have_do_to/ | 16:18 |
| iulian | DktrKranz, pochu: Congratulations. | 16:18 |
| DktrKranz | thanks dholbach iulian! | 16:19 |
| pochu | thanks guys | 16:19 |
| DktrKranz | pochu: they probably mean s/thanks/sponsor me something/ :) | 16:20 |
| pochu | =) | 16:21 |
| Laney | thanks, now get to work reviewing my packages! | 16:21 |
| * Laney cracks the whip | 16:22 | |
| * sebner asks himself if he should change the topic to: New Debian Sponsors: pochu and DktrKranz :O | 16:22 | |
| sistpoty|work | sebner: can you sanitize and clean up the topic a little bit, now that you're the last one you touched it? (e.g. you could mention that we're all doomed, err that FF starts on Thursday) | 16:30 |
| sebner | sistpoty|work: haha! uiuiui, really doomed. I'm sorry | 16:31 |
| sistpoty|work | sebner: just guessing on the rate of "just before feature freeze" breakage :P | 16:31 |
| Laney | topic is a bit of a mess isn't it | 16:32 |
| === sebner changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Jaunty is released | Time for SRUs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru/ | We are nearing Feature Freeze for Karmic (27th August) | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | ||
| sistpoty|work | excellent! | 16:32 |
| sistpoty|work | thanks sebner | 16:32 |
| sebner | sistpoty|work: thanks for the hint. /me was just too excited xD | 16:33 |
| * DktrKranz can now hide | 16:33 | |
| sistpoty|work | sebner: sure, no problem, I just thought that also the old topic could need cleanup :) | 16:33 |
| Laney | Jaunty is released? | 16:34 |
| sebner | sistpoty|work: 2 Fliegen mit einer Klappe ^^ | 16:34 |
| Laney | old news int it? | 16:34 |
| sebner | Laney: still the actual release though | 16:34 |
| sebner | and we want SRU'S | 16:34 |
| Laney | don't think it's topic worthy | 16:35 |
| === sebner changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Jaunty SRUs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/sru/ | We are nearing Feature Freeze for Karmic (27th August) | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | ||
| * sebner hides now | 16:36 | |
| * Laney wonders why that links is in the topic at all | 16:37 | |
| Laney | seems only motu-sru would want to use it | 16:37 |
| * sebner didn't set it :) | 16:37 | |
| Laney | infact both of the main links go to a blank page | 16:37 |
| * Laney would link to sponsor queue, debcheck, uehs | 16:38 | |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| sistpoty|work | Laney: just do it :P | 16:38 |
| Laney | I somehow broke my irssi | 16:38 |
| Laney | so I can't tab complete the topic | 16:38 |
| === Laney changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Karmic Feature Freeze this Thursday (27th August) | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | ||
| Laney | rawr | 16:41 |
| iulian | Looks better now. | 16:43 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: ping | 16:48 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: you uploaded a SRU for zabbix? there's no patch on the bug report and no motu-sru approval | 16:49 |
| dholbach | mok0: bug 271260 :) | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271260 in ubuntu "Sahana - disaster management application - for inclusion to repos - help reqd" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271260 | 16:49 |
| dholbach | mok0: didn't know there was somebody interested in packaging sahana as well | 16:49 |
| kklimonda | riddell: hmm.. there were two similar bugs and I think I have prepared a single debdiff that fixed both of them. | 16:54 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: the only thing in the changelog is " * debian/zabbix-server-{mysql,pgsql}.zabbix-server.init: - Create pid directory in /var/run on start (LP: #172775)" | 16:55 |
| Riddell | and indeed that's the only change in the debdiff | 16:56 |
| kklimonda | riddel: oh, wait - i have no upload rights so i havent uploaded it. ;) | 16:56 |
| kklimonda | i don't know what got uploade to be honest as I'm out of town for the last week or so. I remember getting an email from LP about it and that's it. if you could say what's wrong I'd appreciate it. :) | 16:59 |
| james_w | is there a special procedure for transferring a conffile from one package to another? | 17:02 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: what's wrong is the lack of patch or motu-sru approval on bug 172775 | 17:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 172775 in zabbix "/var/run/zabbix-server deleted after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172775 | 17:07 |
| james_w | no, not any more apparently | 17:09 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: looks like Devid Antonio Filoni <d.filoni@ubuntu.com> uploaded it | 17:09 |
| kklimonda | riddel: i agree that i should probably attach patch to both bugs, i thoght that as they are similar it would be easier to work on both of them in one bug. | 17:10 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: I have no idea what the other bug is | 17:11 |
| kklimonda | as for the lack of sru ack I kow about it, I was talking with on of motu-sru guys about it but hwe had some concerns and then had to go before i've managed to explain them. But I haven't uploaded them myself, actually I wouldn't do it without a sru ack. | 17:12 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: so what is this other bug which is so similar? | 17:14 |
| kklimonda | bug 96644 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 96644 in zabbix "zabbix_agentd will not start after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96644 | 17:14 |
| Riddell | kklimonda: right, that's what I need to know. I'll accept the package | 17:16 |
| geser | kklimonda: according to the signature it was "Devid Antonio Filoni" who uploaded your changes | 17:16 |
| prefrontal | is there any chance that i can get my package into karmic? | 17:17 |
| prefrontal | or should i not even try getting into the game this late | 17:17 |
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| === hanska is now known as Guest70049 | ||
| bdrung | how can i set the default key for signing debian packages? | 17:29 |
| === Guest70049 is now known as hanska | ||
| slytherin | prefrontal: it depends on the state of package. feature freeze is on 27th August. | 17:31 |
| slytherin | bdrung: set environment variable DEBEMAIL to the email address of your key. | 17:31 |
| bdrung | slytherin: i have two key that fit the DEBEMAIL | 17:32 |
| slytherin | then I don't know the solution. | 17:32 |
| jmarsden | bdrung: /etc/devscripts.conf I think | 17:32 |
| jmarsden | DEBSIGN_KEYID=whatever | 17:33 |
| slytherin | bdrung: DEBSIGN_KEYID | 17:33 |
| prefrontal | slytherin, alright i will give it a shot.. and try to make it perfect ;) | 17:34 |
| bdrung | jmarsden: thanks, that works. | 17:37 |
| jmarsden | bdrung: No problem. | 17:37 |
| jbernard__ | i uploaded libcgroup (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libcgroup) to REVU, if anyone has some cycles to review it I'd be very grateful | 17:45 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| Riddell | jtimberman: chef should point to /usr/share/common-licenses/Apache-2.0 in its copyright file | 18:04 |
| jtimberman | Riddell: is that blocking? | 18:06 |
| Riddell | jtimberman: no I've accepted it | 18:06 |
| Riddell | but fix it for next upload | 18:06 |
| jtimberman | Riddell: Definitely! Thank you. | 18:06 |
| jtimberman | Riddell: Won't be long, we're preparing to release 0.7.10 "soon" :-) | 18:07 |
| fta | ghostcube, daily :) | 18:46 |
| fta | ghostcube, ... about 5pm UTC | 18:47 |
| ghostcube | fta, last update is from saturday | 18:48 |
| ghostcube | thats why i asked about :) | 18:49 |
| ghostcube | cause ff anbd tb are pushing dailies into my apt but not songbird heh maybe anything changed ? | 18:50 |
| fta | ghostcube, probably | 18:55 |
| fta | songbird 1.4.0~a~svn20090822r14624 vs songbird 1.4.0~a~svn20090822r14624 | 18:55 |
| fta | No new src snapshot. Skip | 18:55 |
| fta | so yes, no upstream change | 18:55 |
| === OldSchool is now known as they | ||
| fta | ghostcube, but i will probably stop & orphan it. i'm no longer using it and i don't have time to properly maintain it | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | fta, ok no prob just wanted to mention :) | 18:58 |
| fta | debian was supposed to take over, they didn't | 19:00 |
| fta | bug 94494 | 19:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 94494 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Songbird" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94494 | 19:00 |
| fta | hm, debian 412437 | 19:00 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 412437 in wnpp "ITP: songbird -- desktop Web player, a digital jukebox and Web browser" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/412437 | 19:00 |
| ghostcube | oo | 19:02 |
| ghostcube | not possible to get it to experimental ppa from the devel guys ? | 19:03 |
| ghostcube | i mean you have the build up so they could take it | 19:03 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, would thgis be possible | 19:03 |
| stochastic | bdrung, changes pushed to revu | 19:22 |
| stochastic | can any motu with a spare minute and a kind heart look over http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo (I'd love to make feature freeze) | 19:23 |
| josephpiche | not sure where to ask this, but I would like to use launchpad for a stale gpl'd project I will be taking over and co-maintaining with someone, but I'm wondering if launchpad has mailing-lists? | 20:09 |
| xnox | josephpiche: wrong chanell =) try #launchpad. And yes it does. It is part of teams feature - that is a team can have a mailing list =) | 20:12 |
| josephpiche | oh, sorry, thanks | 20:12 |
| zooko | Hey folks, is there something else that I need to do to get Tahoe-LAFS reviewable on REVU? https://bugs.launchpad.net/allmydata.org/+bug/417136/comments/3 | 20:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417136 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] please include Tahoe-LAFS in Karmic Koala" [Wishlist,New] | 20:26 |
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| bdrung | stochastic: you have to add cdbs as build dependency and you can drop autoconf (because we do not run autogen any more) | 20:41 |
| stochastic | bdrung, fixing that now. Thanks. | 20:41 |
| bdrung | stochastic: and you should apply this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/259463/ | 20:42 |
| bdrung | (wrong patch direction) | 20:42 |
| stochastic | bdrung, but the licenses are for version 2 or at your option, any later version | 20:42 |
| stochastic | we discussed this and you said the lintian warning can be ignored | 20:43 |
| bdrung | stochastic: one file is v2 only and therefore is the complete package v2 only | 20:44 |
| bdrung | stochastic: in http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ they use the lowest allowed version | 20:46 |
| stochastic | bdrung, debuild is giving me this lintian warning now: E: xjadeo source: no-architecture-field | 20:46 |
| bdrung | e.g. | 20:46 |
| bdrung | License: GPL-2+ | 20:46 |
| bdrung | On Debian systems the full text of the GNU General Public | 20:46 |
| bdrung | License can be found in the `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2' | 20:46 |
| bdrung | file. | 20:46 |
| james_w | zooko: did they first log in to REVU? | 20:46 |
| stochastic | bdrung, okay, I've changed the GPL line | 20:46 |
| james_w | zooko: doing that makes it import the key so that uploads can be checked against it | 20:46 |
| RainCT | Hey | 20:46 |
| james_w | zooko: if yes, then the usual issue is a mistake in signing | 20:47 |
| bdrung | stochastic: aha, that was the problem. you need a empty line in the control file after the build-depends | 20:47 |
| RainCT | Can sb remind me whether FF starts *the* 27th or *after* the 27th? | 20:47 |
| bdrung | (to seperate the source part from the binary part) | 20:47 |
| james_w | RainCT: at the start of IIRC | 20:47 |
| james_w | i.e. ~28 hours from now | 20:48 |
| RainCT | Oh, so only one day remaining | 20:48 |
| RainCT | ok thanks | 20:48 |
| === warner_sleep is now known as warner | ||
| sebner | james_w: I thought at the end. As long as somewhere on earth is 27th August. Or was is 26th? Anyways, something with somewhere on earth ^^ | 20:48 |
| bdrung | stochastic: i prefer having one build-dependency per line (so it is easier if you have patches), but thats up to you | 20:49 |
| james_w | sebner: that's the release :-) | 20:49 |
| sebner | james_w: right, but I'm sure we did that for FF at some point in the past | 20:49 |
| RainCT | btw, how do I set a spec as postponed? | 20:49 |
| stochastic | bdrung, is there any chance this is going to make Feature Freeze? | 20:49 |
| sebner | james_w: as long as it's before FF somewhere on earth new upstream releases can swim in | 20:49 |
| bdrung | stochastic: if you find a motu, then yes. | 20:50 |
| warner | james_w: I'm the tahoe uploader.. yes, I'm pretty sure that I first logged into REVU. I know I'm logged in now. It there any way to check that REVU picked up my GPG key from launchpad? | 20:50 |
| james_w | hi warner | 20:50 |
| james_w | a revu admin could perhaps do it | 20:50 |
| james_w | warner: try the upload again now | 20:50 |
| warner | ok | 20:50 |
| stochastic | james_w do you have time to do a revu of a package? | 20:50 |
| james_w | "dput -f revu whatever_source.changes" | 20:51 |
| warner | -f, right | 20:51 |
| james_w | stochastic: maybe later | 20:51 |
| RainCT | warner: what's the problem? /me is a REVU admin | 20:51 |
| james_w | stochastic: what does the package do? | 20:51 |
| james_w | the more interesting the more likely :-) | 20:51 |
| warner | RainCT: four packages I uploaded (successfully, it appeared) yesterday didn't show up on the REVU web page | 20:51 |
| stochastic | james_w, it's a video player that syncs with the Jack audio server to allow soundtrack editors to watch their music in sync with the video | 20:51 |
| bdrung | stochastic: here you have the lintian warning: | 20:52 |
| bdrung | N: For example, if the package says something like "you may redistribute it | 20:52 |
| bdrung | N: and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as | 20:52 |
| bdrung | N: published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your | 20:52 |
| bdrung | N: option) any later version", the debian/copyright file should refer to | 20:52 |
| bdrung | N: /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2, not /GPL. | 20:52 |
| warner | re-uploading "tahoe-lafs" now | 20:52 |
| RainCT | warner: which ones? | 20:52 |
| warner | tahoe-lafs, python-foolscap, python-zfec, python-pycryptopp | 20:52 |
| stochastic | bdrung, already fixed it and uploaded | 20:52 |
| james_w | stochastic: ok, I'll see if I have time | 20:52 |
| POX_ | warner: why didn't you ask me to check them? | 20:52 |
| warner | POX_: I didn't see you around :) | 20:52 |
| stochastic | james_w, thanks. | 20:53 |
| bdrung | stochastic: do you want to maintain this package in debian, too? | 20:53 |
| warner | POX_: I've got a git-buildpackage archive for all four if you'd like a copy | 20:53 |
| POX_ | warner: just send me RFS mail (as described on the ~piotr/sponsor page) | 20:53 |
| stochastic | bdrung, maybe, I'm not too familiar with debian maintenance though | 20:53 |
| RainCT | bdrung: Er.. Isn't it /GPL-2 when it's "version 2" (without "or later") and either GPL-X or just /GPL at your option when it's "or later"? (that's how I do it) | 20:53 |
| warner | POX_: ok, will do. Is that for inclusion in debian or ubuntu? (zooko told me about the upcoming ubunbtu freeze, so I've been focussing on that) | 20:54 |
| POX_ | warner: about python-pycryptopp - ping zooko (he's the Debian maintainer, no? :) | 20:54 |
| warner | :) | 20:54 |
| bdrung | RainCT: not any more. the current lintian want versioned gpl links in both cases | 20:54 |
| POX_ | that's about Debian only (but then I know who to ask to have it in Ubuntu) | 20:54 |
| RainCT | warner: no error for any of those here | 20:54 |
| warner | tahoe-lafs reuploaded, now doing foolscap/zfec/pycryptopp | 20:54 |
| RainCT | bdrung: grr, I'll file a bug against it then! :P | 20:55 |
| bdrung | :) | 20:55 |
| warner | RainCT: huh, I don't see "tahoe" on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ , nor on my profile page http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/warner | 20:55 |
| bdrung | RainCT: this is the statement from lintian: | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: The copyright file refers to the versionless symlink in | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: /usr/share/common-licenses for the full text of the GPL, LGPL, or GFDL | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: license. This symlink is updated to point to the latest version of the | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: license when a new one is released. The package appears to allow | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: relicensing under later versions of its license, so this is legally | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: consistent, but it implies that Debian will relicense the package under | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: later versions of those licenses as they're released. It is normally | 20:55 |
| bdrung | N: better to point to the version of the license the package references in | 20:56 |
| bdrung | N: its license statement. | 20:56 |
| Laney | pastebin please | 20:56 |
| bdrung | ok, next time | 20:56 |
| RainCT | warner: are you sure you uploaded to REVU? | 20:56 |
| warner | Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.ubuntuwire.com): | 20:57 |
| warner | Uploading zfec_1.4.5-1.dsc: done. | 20:57 |
| warner | .. | 20:57 |
| warner | Successfully uploaded packages. | 20:57 |
| warner | looks like it :) | 20:57 |
| RainCT | bdrung: so why isn't that an informational warning? they may prefer to do it their way but it's not the lintian maintainer's choice how I'm going to distribute packages :P | 20:57 |
| warner | I am doing this from a sid box, however. But I added the recommended stanza to my ~/.dput.cf | 20:58 |
| * RainCT adds to his todo-when-i'm-back-home: "be angry with the lintian guys" :P | 20:59 | |
| RainCT | warner: ah, you've uploaded the _i386.source | 20:59 |
| warner | I built the packages on a (remote) karmic box, copied them back to my (home) sid system, debsign'ed them, then dput'ed them | 20:59 |
| bdrung | RainCT: it's pedantic | 20:59 |
| RainCT | bdrung: Ah, thought I'd be I: then. No complaints then :) | 21:00 |
| RainCT | warner: instead of _source.changes | 21:00 |
| warner | RainCT: zfec and pycryptopp are arch-specific, tahoe and foolscap are not. I *was* wondering why I wound up with "_i386.changes" for everything.. seemed weird. | 21:00 |
| RainCT | warner: you need to debuild -S -sa, then you'll get a _source.changes files | 21:00 |
| warner | RainCT: does that imply something funny in the way I'm building these files? It didn't create a _source.changes file | 21:01 |
| warner | ah, ok | 21:01 |
| stochastic | bdrung, is that last comment on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo valid? I thought the new way of doing things was to say Ubuntu-Developers not Ubuntu-MOTU? | 21:01 |
| RainCT | you get a _<arch>.source when you build the .deb | 21:01 |
| bdrung | stochastic: it's invalid / outdated. so ignore it :) | 21:01 |
| RainCT | and I should really change REVU to long an error when someone uploads that (or maybe even fix it to work with such updates) | 21:01 |
| warner | RainCT: ah, I see, so I don't need to build .debs at all (for REVU's purpose), just the source package | 21:02 |
| RainCT | warner: right | 21:02 |
| warner | ok, I'll spin up my karmic box and rebuild.. should be re-uploaded within the hour | 21:02 |
| warner | thanks! | 21:02 |
| RainCT | warner: wait, don't worry | 21:02 |
| warner | ok | 21:02 |
| RainCT | I've just seen that renaming the file to _source it works fine :) | 21:03 |
| RainCT | so I'll just do that for you ;) | 21:03 |
| warner | cool :) | 21:03 |
| warner | two of the packages have ITP bugnumbers that should be added, and they all have -1 version numbers (instead of the -0ubuntu1 that I see elsewhere) | 21:06 |
| warner | sometime this afternoon I'll update those | 21:06 |
| RainCT | even better: 508 Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals 2009-08-25 Process any .changes file instead of only _source ones. TODO: Remove the leftover .deb files. | 21:09 |
| RainCT | _<arch>.source uploads to REVU work now :) | 21:09 |
| Laney | pre-ff sponsor queue review anyone? | 21:15 |
| ghostcube | hi folks https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bug/152487 | 21:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 152487 in xine-lib "Jack output for xine apps " [Low,Triaged] | 21:16 |
| ghostcube | is there any news about this | 21:16 |
| RainCT | (ok and .deb files are removed now.. hope I didn't break anything :)) | 21:21 |
| stochastic | ghostcube, wrong channel, ask in #ubuntu-bugs, but yes, there is a movement to get Jack into main (and thus allow xine to compile against it). see bug #416778 and add your comments to the listed discussions | 21:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416778 in libffado "main inclusion request for libffado" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416778 | 21:23 |
| ghostcube | stochastic, thx | 21:25 |
| zooko | What's the question for the Debian pycryptopp maintainer? | 21:27 |
| warner | uploading new tahoe-lafs and zfec packages now (added ITP, changed version to -0ubuntu1, upload _source.changes instead of _i386.changes) | 21:27 |
| zooko | warner: :-) :-) :-) | 21:28 |
| ghostcube | stochastic, i posted this not beacuse of the bug only because i thought motus may know what changes in the main and universe repo :) | 21:31 |
| ghostcube | but thx for th elinks i read them and all i would say in my bad english is already written there in a very good english :) | 21:31 |
| james_w | Laney: how about a REVU instead? | 21:33 |
| warner | RainCT: so, if I'm doing 'debuild -S -sa', does that mean that I won't get lintian reports on problems in the .deb (because it didn't build one)? | 21:34 |
| * Laney whines | 21:34 | |
| Laney | which package? | 21:34 |
| james_w | bzr-builder | 21:34 |
| james_w | small bzr plugin written by me | 21:34 |
| james_w | I can find someone else if you would rather not | 21:34 |
| Laney | nah I'll do it | 21:35 |
| james_w | ah, helps if I actually dput | 21:37 |
| stochastic | if Laney is doing REVUs I want in! | 21:37 |
| stochastic | ;) | 21:37 |
| Laney | I owe james_w lots of favours! | 21:38 |
| RainCT | warner: right | 21:38 |
| warner | RainCT: so I should probably build without -S, separately, to learn about lintian problems with the .deb, right? | 21:42 |
| james_w | stochastic, jbernard__: done | 21:42 |
| stochastic | james_w, thanks, making that change now. | 21:43 |
| RainCT | warner: Yeah. Well, actually you should build the .deb using some chroot (pbuilder/cowbuilder/whatever. I recommend checking out pbuilder-dist/cowbuilder-dist from ubuntu-dev-tools) to see whether the build dependencies et all are correct | 21:44 |
| Laney | man | 21:45 |
| Laney | I kind of wish I went to Forest | 21:45 |
| stochastic | james_w, changes uploaded | 21:45 |
| warner | RainCT: yeah, I'm slowly working on a pbuilder setup (I'm using an EC2 host, since I don't have a karmic box at home, so the process is moving somewhat slowly) | 21:48 |
| Laney | :O | 21:48 |
| RainCT | warner: You don't need a Karmic box for a Karmic pbuilder. That's what's so cool about chroots! | 21:49 |
| RainCT | warner: "pbuilder-dist karmic create" - (wait up to a couple hours depending on connection speed) - there you go | 21:49 |
| warner | does sid know how to do that? | 21:50 |
| james_w | I believe so | 21:51 |
| RainCT | warner: Yeah I think I got pbuilder-dist working there. You'll just have to pull it yourself from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/files | 21:51 |
| warner | ok, I'll give it a try | 21:51 |
| Laney | james_w: do you mean to have that setup.py change in the diff? | 21:51 |
| james_w | yeah, brown paper bag :-) | 21:52 |
| james_w | I made the tarball from the revision before I committed the version number change | 21:52 |
| Laney | fun | 21:52 |
| james_w | I can release a 0.1.1 if you really want | 21:52 |
| Laney | no it's not a problem at all | 21:53 |
| Laney | just checking you meant it | 21:53 |
| warner | what do I do to pull that, 'bzr clone http://../ubuntu-dev-tools' ? | 21:54 |
| zooko | warner, POX: did you have a question for me as the Debian maintainer of pycryptopp? | 21:54 |
| Laney | warner: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-dev-tools | 21:54 |
| warner | Laney: thanks | 21:54 |
| POX_ | zooko: yes, your package is outdated in Debian | 21:54 |
| POX_ | new upstream release is available, didn't upstream tell you? ;) | 21:55 |
| zooko | :-) | 21:55 |
| POX_ | zooko: I think you (as upstream) should slap yourself (as Debian maintainer)! ;) | 21:56 |
| zooko | Heh heh heh. | 21:56 |
| zooko | So, I'm letting myself off easy, because the only changes to upstream are irrelevant to Debian, as they have to do with the "included bundled convenience copy" of Crypto++, which Debian of course doesn't use. | 21:57 |
| zooko | Hm, but there actually is a serious issue here. | 21:57 |
| warner | tahoe-1.5.0 requires a newer version | 21:57 |
| zooko | The Crypto++ library in Debian has a bad bug if used on ARM architecture. | 21:57 |
| * zooko looks for a bug report about that. | 21:57 | |
| zooko | Right, so the reason that Tahoe-1.5.0 requires the new version is in case someone is using the build of pycryptopp which uses its own bundled copy of Crypto++ (and they are on ARM architecture). | 21:58 |
| zooko | I can see that it would be nice if I uploaded a new pycryptopp to Debian. | 21:58 |
| zooko | I would need a big of hand-holding from POX or warner to accomplish that... | 21:59 |
| zooko | At the same time, perhaps we could patch Tahoe-LAFS itself to accept pycryptopp-0.5.14 in Debian? | 21:59 |
| POX_ | zooko: I will help you tomorrow (you can start with "dch -v 0.5.15-1 -m 'New upstream release'") as I'm working on phatch right now (with stani) | 21:59 |
| stani | sorry zooko ;-) | 22:00 |
| zooko | POX: thanks! I'm available around 5:30 UTC-6 until around 7:00 UTC-6 and then around 17:30 UTC-6 to around 21:00 UTC-6 on weekdays. | 22:00 |
| warner | hm, you mean make the debian patch for tahoe-1.5.0 downgrade the dependency? Not sure if the debian/ubuntu world considers that reasonable or not. | 22:00 |
| zooko | warner: what do you think of relaxing the requirement? | 22:00 |
| zooko | It seems reasonable to me in this case because the only reason for "pycryptopp >= 0.5.15" is the bug in the included convenience copy of Crypto++. | 22:01 |
| warner | zooko: I've got an updated pycryptopp package for jaunty and karmic, and I can have a good one for sid by the end of the day (using the "rip out most of setup.py/setup.cfg" technique I wrote about yesterday) | 22:01 |
| zooko | Although I guess this should really be fixed by specifying Crypto++ >= 5.6.0 as a *build* dependency for pycryptopp! | 22:01 |
| zooko | warner: that would be great! Also I would love to get some more education from you on how that is done. | 22:01 |
| warner | zooko: I wouldn't object to relaxing the requirement, but it feels slightly weird to have the dependencies be non-monotonically increasing. But yeah, the "right way" is to bump the build dependency. I believe it's possible to specify different required versions for different architectures, which might capture the requirement better. | 22:02 |
| warner | I'll send you mail about the process once I figure it out for myself :) | 22:02 |
| zooko | That would be interesting -- if on ARM or other CPU without non-aligned load-store, we require Crypto++ >= 5.6.0 as a build-dep. | 22:03 |
| zooko | Else, we require Crypto++ >= 5.5.2 or so. | 22:03 |
| warner | might make it easier to build for some folks, or on older releases, or something | 22:03 |
| warner | might just be noisy | 22:03 |
| zooko | And, once that build-dep is specified for pycryptopp, then in my opinion Tahoe-LAFS on *Debian/Ubuntu* should require pycryptopp >= 0.5.14. | 22:03 |
| POX_ | Debian has libcrypto++ 5.6.0-3 so if you need it, just add versioned build dependency | 22:04 |
| stochastic | james_w you wouldn't be able to take another look on revu now that the changes you requested have been made, would you? (let me know if I'm pestering too much) | 22:04 |
| Laney | james_w: Looks good. Newer standards-version and maybe consider team maintenance/packaging if you want | 22:07 |
| Laney | and I can't find anything about pycompat but that might be me | 22:07 |
| Laney | happy for you to go ahead | 22:08 |
| warner | I guess I should set Maintainer: to ubuntu-motu@lists.u.c, and add myself as an XSBC-Original-Maintainer, yeah? | 22:09 |
| Laney | ubuntu-devel-discuss now, I think | 22:10 |
| warner | ok, thanks | 22:10 |
| c_korn | is there a way to execute the config file of debconf if a package is updated ? | 22:40 |
| c_korn | or removed and reinstalled (not purged) | 22:40 |
| james_w | thanks Laney | 22:40 |
| Laney | no worries | 22:41 |
| LLStarks | hi | 23:15 |
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| stochastic | james_w, thanks. | 23:47 |
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