[06:36] <anom01y> hey guys I am trying to get my hauppauge pvr 150 to work, do I need v4l2 or ivtv ?
[06:41] <foxbuntu> anom01y, its ivtv v3.x in mythtv-setup
[06:41] <foxbuntu> not analog v4l device
[06:44] <anom01y> foxbuntu, v4l2 is analog ?
[06:45] <anom01y> so I need mythtv to watch tv from /dev/video0 ?
[06:45] <anom01y> I can see it with v4l2 but its crappy quality
[06:45] <foxbuntu> anom01y, thats because thats the wrong set of codecs for the pvr-250
[06:45] <foxbuntu> er
[06:45] <foxbuntu> pvr-150
[06:46] <anom01y> ahh ok, so in ubuntu is there a package to install the necessary software ?
[06:46] <anom01y> and, do I need mythtv ? or can I just use ivtv and mplayer ?
[06:46] <foxbuntu> anom01y, you do not need to install anything extra with mythbuntu for that card to work
[06:48] <foxbuntu> anom01y, you just need to reconfigure it in the MythTV Backend Setup
[06:48] <anom01y> foxbuntu, mythbuntu is a whole new ubuntu o/s
[06:48] <anom01y> ?
[06:49] <anom01y> can I just install mythtv ?
[06:49] <foxbuntu> anom01y, Im sorry, I misunderstood your orig. question
[06:49] <foxbuntu> anom01y, there are ways to watch tv from that card without mythtv
[06:50] <foxbuntu> anom01y, but you need a player that can control the tuner
[06:51] <anom01y> ok, xawtv can do that can
[06:51] <foxbuntu> anom01y, if you already have Ubuntu you can add MythTV, or convert to Mythbuntu quite easily
[06:51] <anom01y> can't it ?
[06:51] <anom01y> well I would just like to get mythtv, I have done alot of work to this ubuntu installation
[06:51] <foxbuntu> anom01y, I am not familiar with that app
[06:52] <anom01y> ok well I am going to try it
[06:52] <foxbuntu> anom01y, I suggest just installing Mythbuntu-Control-Centre than using that to add the mythtv roles
[06:52] <foxbuntu> ...if you want MythTV
[06:53] <anom01y> ok
[06:58] <anom01y> what about tvtime ?
[07:00] <foxbuntu> that one shoudl work
[07:00] <foxbuntu> should*
[19:24] <derekS> hey guys. i am looking for a small, low power pc with hdmi to use as a mythubuntu box, do you guys have any reccomendations?
[19:31] <rhpot1991> derekS: I have been looking at this myself lately: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=95
[19:31] <rhpot1991> will need karmic for full potentional though
[20:14] <derekS> rhpot1991: lemme look :)
[20:26] <derekS> rhpot1991: not bad, not too expensive either
[20:28] <rhpot1991> derekS: only thing is that you'll need mythtv .22 to unleash the full power of the graphics with it
[20:28] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Vdpau
[20:29] <derekS> interesting
[20:29] <orificium> I'
[20:30] <orificium> I'm using VDPAU right now with an onboard nForce 750a chipset.
[20:30] <rhpot1991> they just gave me a coupon for meerkat and meerkat ion: mythbuntu-meerkat
[20:30] <rhpot1991> will get you $10 off :)
[20:30] <orificium> For some reason, my CPU utilization is way down, but 720P videos still are jittery
[20:31] <rhpot1991> orificium: I'd assume your chipset is the issue there
[20:31] <orificium> it's supposed to be equivalent to a 9300/9400
[20:31] <rhpot1991> I've heard you want your video card to have access to 512+ of ram as well
[20:31] <orificium> Using 180.xx
[20:32] <orificium> I may try 185 to see if it helps
[20:32] <orificium> or see if there are any xorg options I can add
[20:32] <orificium> I have my bios set to use 512 for video memory.
[20:36] <orificium> I've been meaning to switch back to a different renderer to see if it makes a difference.  This is a new install of 9.04 + the mythbuntu repos.  I set it right to VDPAU.  When I was using the 8.10, I could watch 720P with very few issues.
[20:36] <orificium> weekly build repos
[20:37] <orificium> The graphite theme seems to be more taxing than the terra theme also.
[20:49] <NOT_guru> well hi there everybody,  just playing with myth and hating the card setup (ati HDTV tuner and a pvr-250-b (beyond tv branded MCE )
[20:49] <NOT_guru> I have decided time is worth more to me and was looking at the HDHomerun
[20:50] <NOT_guru> does this device seem to be working decently with mythbuntu?  does it have a strong Tuner?
[20:51] <NOT_guru> has anyone mixed OTA HD and Cable Tuning?
[20:51] <NOT_guru> TIA
[20:55] <rhpot1991> orificium: havne't used VDPAU yet so I can't help much there, I'd open up a forum thread or check the mythtv-users mailing list
[20:55] <rhpot1991> HDHR works very well NOT_guru
[20:56] <rhpot1991> NOT_guru: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels
[20:56] <NOT_guru> awsome rhpot
[20:56] <rhpot1991> you can look up your channels there
[20:57] <orificium> NOT_guru: The biggest problem I have with the HDHomeRun is the the mythbackend starting before my network.  So I'd have to restart the mythbackend after a reboot.
[20:57] <orificium> You'd only have to do it once pre reboot though
[20:57] <NOT_guru> my thats no real problem
[20:57] <orificium> And there are some work-arounds.  Most of them didn't seem to resolve my issue compeltely though
[20:58] <NOT_guru> my server room is in the basement   but I am down there at least once a day anyways
[20:58] <orificium> like re-ordering /etc/init.d/ stuff
[20:58] <NOT_guru> and did you build mythtv on ubuntu or use the distro ( I downloaded mythbuntu 9.04 )
[20:58] <NOT_guru> should I consider using a more mature build? 8.10
[20:59] <orificium> Otherwise, I love the HDHR.  I split my local cable network line and can record all the local HD channels on two signals.
[20:59] <NOT_guru> everything is working fine for me with no tuning currently
[20:59] <NOT_guru> I am seeing the device on the egg for $138  so I am really tempted
[21:00] <NOT_guru> mainly because I am getting older and don't have the time to get my ATI HDTV wonder going
[21:00] <orificium> Yeah, Newegg is where I bought mine.
[21:00] <orificium> Great site
[21:00] <NOT_guru> well  looks like I have to order this today so I can have it by the weekend
[21:00] <orificium> I waited for a deal as well.
[21:00] <NOT_guru> yah  they have the $10 code now
[21:00] <NOT_guru> so seems a good deal to me
[21:01] <NOT_guru> of the none PCI / PCI-e devices
[21:01] <orificium> Unforunately I've misplaced my power adapter and haven't been able to test it on 9.04 + weekly builds (latest trunk build)
[21:01] <NOT_guru> I was thinking this looked the most robust ( HDHOMERUN )
[21:01] <NOT_guru> they have a BR burner on sale for $139 as well
[21:02] <NOT_guru> just dunno if my system will be able to handle it
[21:02] <orificium> 9.04 seems pretty stable though.  Karmic is just around the corner.
[21:02] <NOT_guru> ath64 3000+ with a NV6800 vid card
[21:02] <NOT_guru> karmic will be 9.10?
[21:02] <orificium> Yeah
[21:02] <NOT_guru> and thats when we MAY see .22?
[21:02] <NOT_guru> of myth
[21:02] <orificium> Not sure.  But you can try it out now by installing the weekly builds repos.
[21:03] <orificium> I'm using it
[21:03] <orificium> with the new MythUI and VDPAU
[21:03] <orificium> But VDPAU wouldn't work on your card
[21:03] <orificium> XvMC is the way to go on the 6800 I believe.
[21:03] <rhpot1991> NOT_guru: bluray and linux don't mix very well currently
[21:03] <NOT_guru> I may... I amn just trying to get the whole concept of myth ironed out
[21:03] <rhpot1991> what with drm and all
[21:03] <NOT_guru> no worries
[21:03] <NOT_guru> just saves me money
[21:04] <NOT_guru> I have played a couple MKV files on the system ( UFC's) and they ran just dandy
[21:04] <NOT_guru> MAYBE at most 40% proc load
[21:04] <superm1> NOT_guru, 0.22 will most likely be in 9.10
[21:04] <superm1> it's already in the repos
[21:04] <NOT_guru> now it just needs more storage
[21:04] <NOT_guru> awsome
[21:04] <orificium> I never burn media.  I watch something once and look for something new :)
[21:04] <superm1> so unless something really bad happens,  it will stick
[21:04] <NOT_guru> now to just order the HDhomerun and a couple WDC 1TB green drives  LOL
[21:05] <NOT_guru> oh  I didn't burn them... I just copied the MKV's to the backend
[21:05] <NOT_guru> but that 250 is filling quick
[21:05] <NOT_guru> and I don't even have tuning going
[21:05] <orificium> I was referring to your interest in buying a bluray burner.
[21:05] <NOT_guru> the DVD ripping is wonderful
[21:05] <NOT_guru> ah  yes sir
[21:06] <NOT_guru> just seemed like a decent deal
[21:06] <NOT_guru> but I really want media to some down some more
[21:06] <NOT_guru> well..
[21:06] <NOT_guru> you guys rock
[21:06] <NOT_guru> I appreciate the input
[21:06] <NOT_guru> thank you ALL so much
[21:06] <NOT_guru> OH
[21:06] <NOT_guru> last thing
[21:06] <NOT_guru> flash video on mythbuntu 9.04
[21:07] <NOT_guru> was going to try the flash10.deb from adobe
[21:07] <NOT_guru> any reason not to go that route or do you have a suggested route?
[21:07] <NOT_guru> I have it working on a VM right now
[21:07] <NOT_guru> but as you would assume full screen no worky
[21:09] <NOT_guru> oh  and does the "media Library" imdb poster downloader working in 0.22 of myth
[21:09] <NOT_guru> and director
[21:09] <NOT_guru> I just manually downloaded them for my test system
[21:09] <NOT_guru> =0
[21:15] <orificium> I've been using the new ttvdb script mostly successfully
[21:15] <orificium> for TV Shows
[21:16] <orificium> it's a little quirky, but its pretty easy to add your own poster art for a TV+Season
[21:16] <orificium> er TV show + season
[21:17] <orificium> Honestly, I haven't tried to update metadata for a movie.  I'm assuming it'll scan thetvdb.com and imdb.com both using the same option in MythVideo?
[21:18] <NOT_guru> seems to
[21:18] <NOT_guru> I saw a new script was being developed
[21:18] <NOT_guru> but there was question of whether it would be included with myth because it uses IMDB
[21:19] <NOT_guru> and scraping IMDB is technically against the rules
[21:19] <orificium> That's the issue with Apple Movie Trailers now
[21:19] <NOT_guru> so they were yabbing about using something like movie poster .com or something
[21:20] <NOT_guru> I also have yet to decide if I want to sign up for schedules direct.  I hate siging up for things
[21:20] <NOT_guru> especially when they demand my home address
[21:20] <NOT_guru> I like being an anonymouse
[21:21] <NOT_guru> but I tried mythtv about 4 or 5 years agi
[21:21] <rhpot1991> the imdb one is dead, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl
[21:21] <NOT_guru> and it was just so frustrating
[21:21] <rhpot1991> NOT_guru: sign up, they provide a good service for cheap
[21:21] <NOT_guru> just sent that link hoime   thank you
[21:21] <rhpot1991> also its run by a bunch of open source guys, so no worries
[21:21] <rhpot1991> they give you 2 weeks for free too
[21:22] <NOT_guru> can I not just scrape the EIT that comes on a OTA digital signal?
[21:22] <NOT_guru> 7 days now
[21:22] <rhpot1991> you can try to and see if it works for you
[21:22] <NOT_guru> also  I used to be a FTA say junkie...
[21:22] <orificium> I use Schedules Direct pretty successfully and $20/year is not bad at all.  I used a PO Box when I signed up if that helps with the anonymity issue :)
[21:22] <NOT_guru> 97.1 bird and such
[21:22] <NOT_guru> oh the price is not the issue
[21:23] <NOT_guru> I agree its reasonable
[21:23] <NOT_guru> its just me and my overbering privacey concerns
[21:23] <NOT_guru> has anyone here tried a twinhan DVBs card
[21:23] <NOT_guru> true FTA of course
[21:23] <NOT_guru> I like strange channels
[21:24] <NOT_guru> and I am hoping I can find a good BBC source on a freebird
[21:24] <NOT_guru> need to check lyngsat again
[21:24] <NOT_guru> if I get eit going I may just donate to the cause and not sign up
[21:25] <NOT_guru> give my $20 straight to myth
[21:25] <NOT_guru> =)
[21:25] <orificium> I believe there are some alternative methods to grabbing schedule data, but SD keeps it simple.  Though depending on how your channels come up, you may need to manually edit the channel IDs
[21:25] <NOT_guru> or maybe just make a buddy sign up for me
[21:25] <NOT_guru> LOL
[21:26] <NOT_guru> oh  and of course last night I got sdlmame going on the box itself
[21:26] <NOT_guru> ( god I forgot how much I love galaga
[21:32] <NOT_guru> thatnks again for this link http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl   just readin over it
[21:33] <NOT_guru> looks pretty straight forward
[21:36] <NOT_guru> OH  I know... are you on the latest HDHOMERUN firmware (Release 20090806) or is there a specific FW I should run for Myth?
[21:40] <NOT_guru> ah sweet  hdhomerun has there own channel on irc
[21:40] <NOT_guru> wee\
[22:53] <NOT_guru> thanks again for all the info
[22:53] <NOT_guru> have a great night eveeryone