[20:10] <sadmac2> Keybuk: how do you feel about Dracut? Is Ubuntu interested?
[20:26] <Keybuk> yes
[20:31] <sadmac2> Keybuk: ah cool. I haven't done much with it yet myself. Fedora's test day for that feature is Thursday
[20:34] <Stevee> good evening
[20:35] <Stevee> i´ve some problems with upstart and shutting down the system
[20:39] <sadmac2> Stevee: go ahead
[20:40] <Stevee> good evening
[20:40] <Stevee> yes
[20:40] <Stevee> i´m using the current version 0.6.3
[20:40] <Stevee> without compatiblity mode
[20:41] <Stevee> on reboot i´m using reboot with the flag -f
[20:41] <Stevee> and it works correctly
[20:41] <Stevee> but halt with -f doesnt work
[20:41] <Stevee> if i try other flags like -n for now
[20:42] <Stevee> the services are stopping
[20:42] <Stevee> by the shutdown event
[20:42] <Stevee> but the system doesnt power off
[20:42] <Stevee> here is my shutdown script
[20:42] <Stevee> http://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-3.x.git;a=blob;f=src/initscripts/core/shutdown.conf;h=63d04acbb0a1a74b40c79f4c76a02e939b88447c;hb=master
[20:43] <sadmac2> Stevee: your start on stanzas are wrong for one. you can only have one start on stanza now
[20:43] <sadmac2> Stevee: start on shutdown or reboot
[20:45] <Stevee> oh
[20:47] <Stevee> okay, but the system reboot correctly
[20:47] <sadmac2> Stevee: if you have two start on stanzas only the second one works
[20:47] <Stevee> oh okay
[20:49] <Stevee> okay, here is the link to the new file
[20:49] <Stevee> http://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-3.x.git;a=blob;f=src/initscripts/core/shutdown.conf;h=394b2274636e58ed9bef1b58150b87a2b0ad3079;hb=1237e47913328b79e5908d0d2c77f855c054ac04
[20:50] <sadmac2> that looks like it should work
[20:50] <Stevee> do i need the poweroff binary
[20:50] <Stevee> ?
[20:51] <Stevee> and the shutdown binary ?
[20:51] <sadmac2> I don't believe so
[20:51] <Stevee> atm they are deleted, because shutdown is for the compatiblity mode
[20:52] <ion> keybuk: Btw, anything new with the mount daemon?
[20:53] <Stevee> okay, now it wokrs
[20:54] <Stevee> i´ve got a message System halted.
[20:55] <Stevee> thanks for the help sadmac2
[20:56] <sadmac2> np
[21:00] <ion> http://www.microsoft.com/businessproductivity/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/poland/businessproductivity/default.mspx
[21:00] <Stevee> is upstart also going to replace cron ( frcon )
[21:01] <sadmac2> Stevee: it probably will grow cron or cron-like functionality.
[21:02] <Stevee> when is this feature planned ?
[21:02] <Stevee> or is it already implemented ?
[21:04] <sadmac2> Stevee: its kind of in the air
[21:04] <sadmac2> Stevee: maybe Keybuk knows
[21:06] <Stevee> is there a chance for this feature or is it only some kinde in the air ?
[21:07] <_|ms|_> good evening
[21:09] <ion> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Initrdrewrite#Initial_ideas seems against the idea of making initrd as tiny as possible for speed.
[21:09] <ion> ...regarding Dracut
[21:09] <sadmac2> ion: what parts?
[21:09] <ion> “Include all drivers” mainly
[21:10] <sadmac2> ion: well.. dumb question
[21:10] <sadmac2> ion: if you couple it with the "just build everything in" philosophy it could work out.
[21:11] <sadmac2> I haven't pulled it apart yet. I dunno what to expect.
[21:11] <_|ms|_> dracut seems to be a nice idea... but some kind of hard to build in :(
[21:12] <Stevee> sadmac2: do you know if there is a real change to replace cron with upstart or is it just a nice idea ?
[21:13] <sadmac2> Stevee: I'm betting it will happen. When and what it will look like... Scott has the only roadmap in his head (his FOSDEM talk might have some strong hints though).
[21:13] <Stevee> oh, thats fine
[21:13] <Stevee> hopefully it will be soon
[21:13] <_|ms|_> is there a link to the talk?
[21:14] <_|ms|_> may be a video link?!
[21:15] <sadmac2> _|ms|_: yes...
[21:17] <sadmac2> ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/fosdem-video/2009/maintracks/upstart.xvid.avi
[21:17] <sadmac2> whew that was hard to find
[21:18] <_|ms|_> thanks :D
[21:19] <_|ms|_> I have missed some info about the fosdem talks...
[21:29] <_|ms|_> guys, I have to leave now... see you soon... gn8
[21:53] <Stevee> guys, i´ve to go now, see you soon, thanks again for your help sadmac2
[21:53] <Stevee> good night