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msc1     /msg nickserv set hidemail on00:07
msc1sorry :)00:07
pedro3005does xubuntu have an option like ubuntu on the liveCD to create a installable usb drive?00:39
mscit should have00:45
mscwhatever the package makes it bootable on usb drive00:46
mscis usable on xubuntu00:46
pedro3005but maybe because it's not GNOME the tool is not easily available00:46
mscI wish I could give you more info on that but I'm a total noob sorry :D00:54
mikubuntuhey guys, quick question, would the regular 32 bit desktop version run on this computer? http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4776315&sku=M975-10096&SRCCODE=COMEM342MH&cm_mmc=EML-_-Main-_-COMEM342-_-email01:18
SiDimsc, the tool he wanted is unetbootin :)01:20
SiDimikubuntu, it shall run, yes01:21
SiDibut it sells with windows, and acer's computers quality is low.01:22
mikubuntusidi, what do you mean the quality is low?  i thought they were well rated as far as the hardware?01:26
mikubuntuof course i will flush the windows in the toilet01:27
SiDii used to have an acer desktop01:27
SiDithe screen died just after the end of the warranty01:27
mikubuntua laptop?01:27
SiDiand it was more noisy than my hoover when booting01:27
SiDiand still very noisy afterwards01:27
SiDia desktop01:27
mikubuntuhahaha01:27
SiDiand the hw they put isnt really extra01:28
mikubuntuwhat hw?01:28
SiDii'd try to find some local manufacturer if i were you01:28
SiDiit was an amd celeron with an ati radeon 9200se01:28
SiDithat was old times :P01:28
SiDifind a local vendor which can order the hardware and build you a PC. If you want a computer for $300 you can get better than what acer offers, imo01:29
SiDiand you wont pay $100 of windows licence, too01:29
SiDiyou can plan on $220hw and ~$80 for a 2years warranty. This shouldnt be hard to find if you live in a city with more than 5k inhabitants :p01:29
mikubuntuok, well, i take under advisement; thanks01:30
SiDiyou're welcome01:31
SiDiyou're in the USA, right ?01:31
mscI'm at the edge of losing it.. I want to install sound driver for my laptop01:54
mscwhen I try modprobe snd-01:54
mscit says: all config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat, it will be ignored in a future release01:54
mscfatal: module snd_ not found01:55
mscany idea anyone?01:55
mschttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 this thread is completely useless for me01:56
shullatshulpaehi all. . .new to xubuntu and looking to change my mouse sensitivity.  Can anyone help?02:06
mm_202For a 1GHz VIA C3 w/ 1GB RAM, what what be 'faster', Xubuntu 8.10, or 9.04?02:16
bigdaddyneedhelp with a sudo dpkg configure -a error02:25
mscmm_202: 9.0.402:30
msc:)02:30
mscit will be more than enough02:30
mm_202msc: k, and what filesystem would be best?  :)02:30
mscno idea sorry :( I'm running it on celeron 1.6 , 1 gb ram and I'm very happy with the default settings02:31
mm_202Nice!  What are you using yours for?02:32
mscfor the edubuntu add-on for my kid02:32
mm_202ah, okay.  Im using mine for a media-pc in my living room :)02:33
mscit had no problem with flash plug in in websites02:33
mm_202Did you run into any issues at all?02:33
mscyeah I have no sound at all for a week :-/02:34
mscI can't find any solution for my particular sound card02:34
mscI have to compile something something but they are all too weird for me to understand,02:34
msc:P02:34
mscI'm reinstalling for the 4th time cuz I don't know how to undo the messes I made heheh02:35
mscbut I'm very happy with the performance02:37
mm_202msc: lol, I hope I dont have to reinstall it for times, but good to hear that you are happy with it :)03:30
mm_202What size HD do you use?03:30
msc4003:33
mscI believe xubuntu will be enough for your needs03:34
RedeemedHello03:40
mm_202Hola.03:41
RedeemedI've managed to break X or something else by issuing 4 commands to try to get skype working in 9.04.03:41
RedeemedMind if I paste those commands here?03:41
* genii sips03:41
mm_202genii: you scared him.03:43
Redeemedhaha no, been awhile in IRC03:43
mm_202lol03:43
Redeemeder, since I used IRC03:43
RedeemedThe 4 commands: killall pulseaudio | sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio | sudo apt-get install esound | sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio03:43
RedeemedNow when I login my background loads and that's it.03:44
geniiRedeemed: You used the pipe between those commands just like you pasted it?03:44
RedeemedNo, I wanted to keep them on one line in chat.03:44
RedeemedSorry. I followed the directions found: http://www.econowics.com/news-from-the-net/170/skype-problem-with-audio-playback-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/03:45
RedeemedThough I use Jaunty and not intrepid.03:45
geniiMight be some pulseaudio remnants since --purge not used03:46
RedeemedHow do I get into my login and purge?03:47
RedeemedI think I can get into my login on the command line but what command(s) do I then use?03:47
mscYAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY03:47
mm_202Redeemed: hit Ctrl-F2 (or F3, or whatever), login03:48
mscproblem solved03:48
mm_202Redeemed: then tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you see any errors03:48
RedeemedDo that now on this login?03:49
RedeemedYou'd never guess I'm a Linux newbie would you?03:49
mm_202Redeemed: yes and yes :)03:51
mm_202once you login, you should have a prompt, type 'cd /var/log' and then 'tail Xorg.0.log'03:52
mm_202(you may need to do tail -n 40 Xorg.0.log if the log file is too verbose, or just even use vi or vim)03:53
RedeemedNeither Ctrl-f2 nor ctrl-f3 do anything.03:53
RedeemedWell ctrl-f2 changes to the other desktop03:53
* Redeemed smacks his forehead in 5...4...03:54
geniifrom X is ctrl-alt-f1   through f6 for console03:54
geniiconsole-console is ctrl-f# without the alt03:55
RedeemedSo I want to use ctrl-alt-f2?03:55
RedeemedOk that was fun...now I need to remember the commands...03:58
RedeemedThank you so much for your help/patience03:58
RedeemedOk no errors in tail so I viewed the whole log and didn't see any error except core pointing device and keyboard which appeared to be resolved at the end.04:03
RedeemedShould I just try purging pulse audio? If so, how?04:04
Redeemedsudo apt-get purge pulse*?04:05
RedeemedThanks again! Have a great night.04:15
anom01ywhat do I have to do to get ivtv working in xubuntu ?05:27
anom01y!ivtv05:27
ubottuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy05:27
anom01yhow do I get a hauppauge tv tuner card to work in xubuntu 9.04 ?05:37
anom01yhow do I get a hauppauge pvr 150 to work in ubuntu Jaunty ??05:49
BorgKillahsziasztok testverek08:52
dubwighi, can someone help me? im kinda new to xubuntu, and i installed kopete yesterday, and when i turned it of, it said that kopete had crashed, when i started up again the toolbar (taskbar) was gone, someone now how i can solve this or reset my xubuntu?09:50
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BMasiakhowdy folks16:28
knome!hi | BMasiak16:32
ubottuBMasiak: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!16:32
BMasiakthanks :-)16:35
BMasiakxubuntu on a half decent laptop is ridiculously fast, I love it16:35
SiDiGreat to hear that :)16:40
abraI downloaded iso image of Xubuntu 9.10 amd64 alpha-4 two times and two times iso wasn't match md5sum16:57
SiDiDownload it via another source then :]16:59
RolaBladeHi... How do I open serial port in xubuntu. I am trying bluetooth programming with python18:05
SiDiWhat do you mean by serial port / bluetooth programming ?18:12
SiDiUsing python-bluez ?18:13
SiDior python-lightblue ?18:13
SiDiIn both cases i'd advise you to try #python for generic python questions and to try to find the channel of the bluez / lightblue users & developers for bluetooth questions.18:13
RolaBladeSiDi: my problem is, when ever I try to open a serial port using python. It keeps telling me "Not found"18:14
SiDiCan you show me the whole error ?18:15
RolaBladeSiDi: http://pastebin.com/d1f4ae6ce18:23
SiDiserial.serialutil.SerialException: Could not configure port: (5, 'Input/output error') RolaBlade18:24
SiDiyou should definately get in touch with people who know about bluetooth programming ^.^18:24
RolaBladeSiDi: I have been to the python, ubuntu, xubuntu channel and nobody has been able to help... I am frustrated with this stuff :(18:25
RolaBladeSiDi: Thanks... i will keep hoping a solution comes up18:26
SiDialmost noone knows about bluetooth stuff, RolaBlade :)18:27
SiDithis problem you have is either a bluetooth connectivity problem or an error in the way you use the lib18:27
SiDiRolaBlade, if you use python-bluez, try the #bluez channel18:28
knomeSiDi, actually, we have this one guy who has fixed the bluetooth stack several times and sent the patches to ubuntu developers.18:28
knomeSiDi, they just haven't applied the patches. are you willing to work on getting the patches applied?18:28
SiDiknome, i think RolaBlade is not speaking about userside bluetooth issues :P As for the patches applied, i think you need a packager / MOTU for this task. But you can tell me more in #xu-dev if you want (im gonna go cook the food right now)18:29
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ingenioushaxHey i have a few questions about Xubuntu, Just switched over from Ubuntu, and I seem at kind of a loss with this one.18:53
ingenioushaxanyone?18:54
knome!ask | ingenioushax18:54
ubottuingenioushax: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:54
ingenioushaxEverytime I restart the computer I have to run "xfwm4 --replace" to get my windows to work correctly, otherwise I cant readjust them, or move them, or close them. every time I open a terminal window, two pop up, one normal size, one small, and if I close the small one, they both close.18:56
ingenioushaxDoes anyone know how to fix this issue.18:59
ingenioushax?18:59
geniiSounds like Compiz decorator fail19:01
ingenioushaxoh...19:01
ingenioushaxHow should I go abouts fixing that?19:02
geniiingenioushax: gksudo "mousepad /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc" and change Client0_Command=compiz to Client0_Command=xfwm4      ...crap they left19:30
squirrelpimphi, i just ran into an issue with gnome-keyring-daemon in xfce. I want to use the daemon as my ssh-agent, however it does not behave as such.19:47
squirrelpimpi enabled "start gnome session" in session-settings and verified, there are two instances of the daemon (--login and --start), both of which present a "socket" file in their /tmp folder, but no socket.ssh19:48
squirrelpimprunning killall gnome-keyring-daemon; eval `gnome-keyring-daemon`; in a terminal makes agent start and behave correctly in that terminal19:50
squirrelpimphowever i suspect, that gnome-keyring-daemon is not starting correctly19:50
squirrelpimpi already suspected ssh-agent startet by Xsession to prevent the daemon from working, so i disabled that in Xsession.options19:51
squirrelpimpthen came the agent started by xinitrc, which i commented out as well19:51
squirrelpimpstill, gnome-keyring-daemon doesn't start it's ssh-sockt19:51
squirrelpimpwhat else could prevent the daemon from opening this socket?19:53
iliketofrolic666thunar won't let me delete something from a usb MP3 player how do I change permissons for root ?20:38
iliketofrolic666how do i remount the mp3 player as writable?20:43
jiohdiI created a new partition out of part of a harddrive that was used formerly by vista as a recovery drive... but I am having a hard time seeing what is on it or putting things on it21:33
jiohdianyone know how I can see what is on it?21:33
Hezywhat did you use for partitioning?21:34
jiohdigpart21:34
Hezyyou can use it to see its lable, like /dev/sdb2 or something like that21:35
jiohdisda321:35
Hezyall you need to do is mount it somewhere21:37
jiohdiI have it mounted on /home but how do I put stuff into it and know that it went into it21:38
Hezyopen a terminal and write: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/space21:39
Hezyspace = for example21:39
Hezyyou can call however you like21:39
Hezyyou can also mount it directly to /space without /mnt21:39
Hezyor you can mount it to /media/space and than it will be on your desktop automatically21:40
Hezysorry, i didn't see you said it's in home21:44
Hezyjust check what you have in /home/youruser_name21:44
jiohdihome has other things that were already there like my user name21:47
jiohdimy profile folder21:47
jiohdihow do I move it toa nother folder without causing problems21:49
geniiingenioushax: I answered this for you before but you'd left. Let me look it up again22:48
ingenioushaxHow can I have the xfwm4 --replace a permanent operation, everytime I start my computer I have to run it for my windows to work properly.22:48
geniiingenioushax: "[14:30:39] <genii> ingenioushax: gksudo "mousepad /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc" and change Client0_Command=compiz to Client0_Command=xfwm4      ...crap they left"22:49
ingenioushaxit brings up a xfce4-session.rc window with nothing in it...What should I do here?22:51
SiDi(i'd say just remove compiz.. :P)22:53
ingenioushaxI tried that, and it didn't work... :(22:53
geniiSiDi: That of course is the drastic option :)22:53
SiDiingenioushax, after removing compiz xfwm still doesnt spawn ? :/22:54
geniiThat would be very odd. Unless the package manager fails on removal due to postrm or such not finding a right file, etc22:55
ingenioushaxSiDi, This is what I did. When I first installed xubuntu, I wanted to use the CCSM from Ubuntu, so I installed Compiz, when i did that, all my windows went haywire, and than I got the information to do the xfwm4 --replace, which works fine, but I tried to use "sudo apt-get autoremove compiz" and nothing got removed.22:55
geniiMight want to try sudo apt-get remove --purge compiz   (or such)22:56
geniiAlso even purging doesn't remove entries which are in some user's home dir structure22:56
ingenioushaxIt says no directory exists.22:56
ingenioushax"Package compiz is not installed, so not removed"22:57
ingenioushaxor package, my bad.22:57
geniiHm.22:57
SiDiaptitude search compiz22:57
SiDifor each one with a 'i' in front of the name, sudo aptitude purge <name>22:57
SiDiapt-get leaves a lot of stuff behind when removing22:58
SiDithen locate compiz22:58
SiDiand delete all the files in your home related to compiz (locate compiz will list them)22:58
SiDiAnd please show us .config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc22:59
SiDi(/etc/xdg is the config folder for all users, and .config/22:59
SiDiis the one for your custom config22:59
ingenioushaxJust C&P? Sorry you kinda lost me.23:00
genii!paste23:02
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic23:02
geniiUse the above site23:02
ingenioushaxSo use !paste and than paste the output?23:03
ingenioushaxOr just use one of those links?23:03
ingenioushaxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/259530/23:08
ingenioushaxI think that's it?23:08
ingenioushaxIt's the "locate compiz"23:08
geniiYes, that worked for us to see the results23:10
ingenioushaxVery niiiiice.23:10
geniiingenioushax: Everything on that paste could be safely deleted23:16
ingenioushaxAlright, you think it would fix the problem?23:16
geniiI'm not making any wild claims just yet :)23:17
ingenioushaxLoL, Gotta try everything once right?23:17
ingenioushaxTo remove them do i just go through one by one and aptitude remove <file>??23:20
geniiFor just removing files you don't use the package manager, just the builtin rm command23:22
ingenioushaxso rm compiz ?23:23
geniiUm no23:23
geniisudo rm /etc/compiz*      for instance removes all in /etc directory which starts with compiz23:24
SiDiingenioushax, rm -r .cache/compizconfig .config/compiz .gconf/apps/compiz23:24
geniiWhen things are not in /home/your-user-name    you need sudo to rm them.23:24
SiDiAnd pleaase also paste 'aptitude search compiz'23:24
SiDigenii, lets not sudo rm those files :) they belong to a package23:24
geniiSiDi: I'll just sip my coffee and watch for a bit :)23:25
ingenioushaxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/259537/23:26
SiDisudo aptitude purge compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-wrapper compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 python-compizconfig23:27
SiDiingenioushax,23:27
ingenioushaxYes?23:27
SiDisudo aptitude purge compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-wrapper compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 python-compizconfig23:28
SiDiType this in a terminal ;)23:28
SiDiThis will _actually_ get rid of Compiz, and then you can use Xfwm (which has a transparency compositor in Apps -> Parameters -> Window manager tweaks)23:28
ingenioushaxWill this whole endeavor just default use xfwm or is there some kind of special process to do so?23:29
SiDiingenioushax, compiz is still installed. Normally when its uninstalled, session managers will stop trying to use it23:30
SiDiSo this should fix your issue the next time you login23:30
ingenioushaxI have one more question... My sounds doesn't work... :(23:31
SiDiaw23:31
SiDiyou're coming from Ubuntu, right ?23:31
ingenioushaxBut thank you both for all your help with the compiz. Really appreciated. Yeah Ubuntu.23:31
ingenioushaxSuch simpler days, LoL.23:32
SiDiOkey, then you probably still have PulseAudio installed23:32
SiDi(xubuntu is much more simple when you dont come from Ubuntu, actually :p because the gnome apps such as compiz and pulseaudio actually dont work fine with some xfce components we use ^.^)23:32
SiDitype 'aptitude search pulse' please23:32
SiDiDo you use any of PulseAudio's advanced features, before i propose you to remove it ?23:33
ingenioushaxIDK? Probably not, Im mainly going to use Xubuntu what i used Ubuntu for, programming and networking.23:34
SiDi(aptitude search <name> returns, as you can see, a list of packages containing <name> in their name. On the left, you can notice a letter : i, c, p most of the time : i stands for installed, p for not installed, c for uninstalled but some config files remain)23:34
ingenioushaxPost the search for pulse?23:34
SiDiok, then you can fire pulseaudio23:34
SiDiyes please23:34
SiDi(apt-cache search <word> will not search in package names but also in package descriptions - thats useful when you cant find a package with aptitude - at worse there's also synaptic)23:35
ingenioushaxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/259542/23:35
SiDiDamn, it's not PulseAudio :P23:35
SiDiWhat happens when you click on the almightly sound icon in the top right of your screen ?23:35
ingenioushaxBrings up a window that says "(Drop down menu contains: HD Intel ALSA mixer & Realtek ALC268(OSSmixer)") no controls visible23:37
SiDiClick on Preferences please23:37
SiDior 'Controls' or whatever name the bottom left button has23:38
ingenioushaxOk.23:38
SiDiThen, check every checkbox :) Then you should see some controls for your sound cards23:38
ingenioushaxYessum, they came up.23:38
ingenioushaxHooray! Sounds. How nice.23:39
ingenioushax^.^23:39
ingenioushaxOhhhh boy.23:40
ingenioushaxThank you very much!!23:40
ingenioushaxI'm gonna restart my computer right quick and see how everything worked out.23:41
genii!helpersnack | SiDi23:43
ubottuSiDi: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!23:43
genii:)23:44
SiDigenii, :P23:44
geniiSiDi: KDE is my primary DE but I deal to some degree with XFCE and Gnome so sometimes it's good to just sit back and absorb23:45
SiDii see, genii23:45
SiDii must say my kde knowledge is null23:45
SiDiand the funniest is that i used to use it :D23:45
geniiHeh23:46
* genii makes more coffee23:46
ingenioushaxgenii: It still does the same thing...23:46
SiDiingenioushax, is xfwm properly launching now ?23:46
ingenioushaxNo, its still doing the same thing.23:46
ingenioushax:(23:46
SiDiok, can you please paste us ~/.config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc ?23:46
geniiApparently it still wants to use some other DE by default for some reason23:47
SiDiAlso, are you under Xubuntu 9.04 or older ?23:48
ingenioushax9.0423:48
ingenioushaxIt says no such file or directory23:48
SiDiOkies23:48
SiDiCould you open xfce4-settings-editor ?23:49
ingenioushaxYeah.23:49
SiDithen pick xfce4-session on the left23:50
ingenioushaxOk.23:50
SiDiand then on the right, go to sessions -> Failsafe23:50
SiDiWhat is the value of Client0_Command ?23:50
ingenioushaxIt's blank.23:51
ingenioushaxNo value there.23:51
SiDiput xfwm423:51
SiDi(2nd button on the toolbar to edit keys)23:51
SiDiIf this doesn't work then i'll be out of ideas... (but people in #xfce and #compiz may be able to helpyou too)23:52
ingenioushaxIt won't let me click the edit button, well it does, but it won't bring up the edit portion. :(23:52
SiDiGreat :/23:53
ingenioushaxYeah, maybe ill just every so gently place the computer in a deep pool of water and say my farewells23:53
SiDiWhat does this : xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /sessions/Failsafe/Client0_Command                     return ?23:54
SiDi(the settings editor isnt really finished imho :P)23:54
ingenioushax"Value is an array with one items : xfwm423:56
SiDi(btw, not to be mean, but when i switched from ubuntu+compiz to xubuntu i never had this problem ^.^)23:56
SiDiOk, then things are as they should be23:56
ingenioushaxYeah it was working great til I got all dumbed out and apt-get install compiz... Than it all went to shit.23:57
SiDiI'm sorry but i'm really out of ideas. I can only suggest you to join #xfce and ask them if they know where to look at23:57
ingenioushaxExcuse the language...23:57
SiDino problem23:57
ingenioushaxYeah it's alright, I appreciate all the help though.23:57
ingenioushaxHow long have  you been using linux distros?23:58
SiDiYou're welcome.23:58
SiDihm, been on (X)Ubuntu for 1 year and 1123:58
SiDi11 days23:58
ingenioushaxO.O;; wow, you learned a lot real quick.23:58
SiDiBefore, i was on Windows + kubuntu, but not often booting kubuntu, way too messed up :P23:58
SiDiyou learn much faster in linux than in windows :p23:59
SiDiTime to go to bed23:59
SiDiGood luck with xfwm23:59
ingenioushaxAlright, take it easy and once again thanks for the help.23:59

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