[00:00] <PupE> kaddi: sounds like some kind of database encyclopedia but just taking a wild guess :)
[00:02] <bazhang> http://forums.adobe.com/thread/433896 jaison
[00:02] <jaison> i heard from the forum that design view is not available in linux..
[00:03] <bazhang> kaddi, that is found in app-install-data
[00:03] <jaison> can we install flex using wine...
[00:04] <bazhang> jaison, check the appdb , help in #winehq
[00:04] <bazhang> !appdb | jaison
[00:05] <rav> hello. does anyone know how to change the appearance settings of kde3 apps running under kde4?
[00:07] <PupE> ok so do I have to lable my ntfs partition bootable to install xp, or will xp installation to that on its own? (hate having it but need to :-/)
[00:08] <rav> PupE: xp install does format partitions. not sure about making them bootable
[00:09] <kaddi> bazhang: I see, thanks. Could you tell me what dbpedia does? Google associates it with wikipedia somehow and launching the program just yields an empty window, with no menu
[00:09] <bazhang> !info app-install-data
[00:10] <bazhang> kaddi, pretty barebones description there ^^
[00:10] <PupE> rav: thanks, do you know then if making the partition bootable would affect it?
[00:12] <rav> PupE: i don't know. i've only made dual-boots by resizing the existing xp partition, and installing linux on the free space. the original partition is bootable, but when you install grub, things work differently
[00:12] <kaddi> bazhang: I know, some kpackageki-backend seems to depend on it, that's probably how I got it.. but it still can't figure what it really does :p
[00:12] <bazhang> kaddi, me either :)
[00:13]  * kaddi can not sleep withuot knowing this :/
[00:13] <bazhang> perhaps the mailing lists would help :)
[00:13] <bazhang> !lists
[00:14] <kaddi> lol, when I enter a search term, it seems to crash :p
[00:15] <negnar> il y a quelqu'un ?
[00:15] <PupE> !fr
[00:17] <kaddi> ok, I'm just gonna bug google a bit about this... and then I'll probably delete it :p
[00:17] <kaddi> have fun
[00:17] <PupE> I see,  I did check the disk labels on my other dualboot pc and the ntfs has a boot flag
[00:19] <negnar> thx =)
[00:23] <PupE> Will xp find the free space on my hd if I leave it unallocated?
[00:27] <PupE> ooo I think it will :)
[00:27] <^peter^> If it is unallocated, means it will not be listed for use.
[00:30] <PupE> ^peter^: then how do I make it visible?
[00:34] <BluesKaj> PupE, format it to ntfs
[00:35] <PupE> BluesKaj: do I have to give it a boot flag?
[01:11]  * genii sips
[01:14] <darthanubis> anyone have the link to the not able to play more than two sound sources at one time
[01:17] <Coyotes> Anyone know if the manual partition setup on the Live CD ALWAYS reformats partitions?
[01:17] <Coyotes> I have moved all my old stuff to a directory off the root of the old EXT3 FS
[01:18] <Coyotes> Tried Ubuntu 8.04 and now I wanted to start fresh with a default install of Kubuntu 9.04.
[01:18] <Coyotes> And of course not enough space on other drive :/
[01:19] <Coyotes> Do I have to resize it or can I just reuse the old one like in Mac OSx and Windows?
[01:20] <Coyotes> Ubuntu had a "restore" feature or something?  Would the "recovery" option in Grub do it?
[01:24] <Coyotes> So it is possible to install into an existing partition with all the old system folder moved/renamed and leave them alone?
[01:25] <Coyotes> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/switching/first-steps.html I'm at this step.
[01:26] <kavurt> Coyotes: what do you want to know? how many partitions do you have?
[01:27] <Coyotes> I have 3.
[01:27] <Coyotes> First is 50GB Ext3
[01:27] <Coyotes> "EFS" I think is the other name
[01:27] <kavurt> you had 8.04 on it?
[01:27] <kavurt> on the first partition
[01:27] <Coyotes> 2nd is swap
[01:28] <Coyotes> 3rd is something else (not sure lol)
[01:28] <Coyotes> Yeah with Ubuntu package.
[01:28] <Coyotes> I just moved all files into a folder.
[01:28] <kavurt> in the first partition?
[01:28] <Coyotes> Yeah deleted most things but the home and etc folders
[01:29] <Coyotes> all Lib/lib32/etc.
[01:29] <kavurt> don't you want to remove the etc folder?
[01:30] <Coyotes> It has one called "old home".
[01:30] <Coyotes> That's the entire root directory's contents
[01:30] <Coyotes> Blank except that folder.
[01:30] <Coyotes> Got rid of Sys/bin/etc.
[01:30] <Coyotes> oops I meant "etc." the term
[01:30] <Coyotes> lol not the folder
[01:30] <Coyotes> my bad
[01:31] <Coyotes> etcetera
[01:31] <kavurt> I think you don't need anything except home folder
[01:31] <Coyotes> I meant that I put all but the settings and old files into a folder.
[01:32] <Coyotes> Well I really just wanted to move stuff over manually to entirely new organization of files.
[01:32] <Coyotes> But hard to do it if I can't install without reformat. :(
[01:33] <kavurt> cant you move the folders you need, to the 3rd partition?
[01:33] <Coyotes> It's swap I think...  or blank...  and too small.
[01:33] <Coyotes> I'll go check to see the exact layout.
[01:34] <v6lur> if i enter a hebrew character into filename, the whole filename switches to right-to-left
[01:34] <v6lur> is there a way to get only the hebrew character(s) in RTL direction?
[01:34] <v6lur> (KDE 3.5.10, kubuntu 8.04)
[01:34] <kavurt> I think you can resize the first partition during the install, and won't lose data
[01:34] <v6lur> exact use case: a hebrew song title from a multilingual album
[01:34] <v6lur> is the only way to use romanized title?
[01:35]  * genii sips and ponders multilingual hebrew songs
[01:35] <Coyotes> Sdb1=50GB ext3, 4GB of free space, and sdb5=swap of 2.5GB.
[01:35] <Coyotes> Wait, can I install Kubuntu to only 4GB?  heh
[01:36] <kavurt> yes you can
[01:36] <kavurt> but is it a free space on the first partiton?
[01:36] <Coyotes> ooooh I'll try that.   I just never could get my DVD burning tools working 100% in Gnome.
[01:36] <Coyotes> (8.04 hated my hardware)
[01:36] <Coyotes> crash crash crash
[01:37] <dwidmann_>  /j #qt
[01:37] <dwidmann_> grr
[01:37] <dwidmann_> stupid spaces
[01:38] <Coyotes> It wasn't just CDR or naut that crashed...  I think even the browsers did.  Video card is old PCI-E ATI so not sure if the drivers just were bad.
[01:38] <Coyotes> THanks for help!
[01:38] <Coyotes> BRB
[01:39] <Coyotes> It stunk to have to load UBCD4Win or use an adapter on my laptop to burn...  Oh well it'll work now I hope.  :)
[01:42] <Coyotes> *kicks self*  Oh, didn't notice that tiny button that says "Format:  Yes/No?"
[01:42] <Coyotes> lol
[02:06] <Coyotes> Installing just fine without formatting the partition.  I was only worried because it's a rather dangerous tool to not be 100% sure of.
[02:06] <Coyotes> Only lost 2 partitions in 20 years from that kind of mistake.  lol not wanting a 3rd
[02:07] <Coyotes> Set 50GB as /home
[02:07] <Coyotes> 4GB as /
[02:07] <Coyotes> last as swap
[02:09] <Coyotes> Lost an old 20MB one and a 850MB one many years ago - 20mb on not knowing FDISK.EXE is instant and can't be undone...  Other from not understanding that hd_/sd_ system.  Yeah noticed it was the wrong drive about 5% in and never wanting to go through a recovery again.  :)
[02:10] <Lars_G> hey
[02:10] <Coyotes> I could have rebuilt the partition table on the 20MB but I had all of 1-2 years PC experience at school.
[02:10] <Coyotes> Hi
[02:10] <Lars_G> do you guys think this could someday become a kubuntu netbook remix? I'd love one http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2009072700335OSEMKE
[02:10] <Coyotes> Oh I love the dell 12"
[02:11] <Coyotes> hmm checking url
[02:11] <kris> Hi. Is there a package or program that allows me to interface directly with ALSA and normalize the sound that comes from the ALSA server? Or at least one that allows me to adjust the relative levels of various frequencies of sound (an equalizer)?
[02:12] <Coyotes> Hmm looking at that Dell advertisement, I think there's going to be real laptops that work like that.
[02:12] <Coyotes> You don't touch anything
[02:12] <Coyotes> Just move a ball or something in the air.
[02:12] <Coyotes> Sony is making a neat 2-camera system for that to emulate clay if I remember right.
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Coyotes, were another victim of partition magic ?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> were you
[02:13] <Coyotes> No... lol
[02:13] <Coyotes> That REALLY old Linux tool from RH
[02:13] <Coyotes> Like RH 6/7
[02:13] <Coyotes> 1990s
[02:13] <Coyotes> 1999 or so
[02:13] <Lars_G> Coyotes: I still have a RH 6.2 machine in production
[02:13] <Coyotes> Well not saying it aint stable...
[02:13] <Coyotes> lol
[02:14] <Lars_G> no dude, it haunts me, every day
[02:14] <Coyotes> Just... really old.  I like some new features as well as bug fixes.  Bug fixing and adding features is sometimes a nightmare to 'glue' to old OSes.
[02:14] <Coyotes> It crashes a lot?
[02:14] <Coyotes> Oh, going to go look up that ALSA thing.
[02:15] <Lars_G> Now the one machine that really ruined my life was the SunOS 2.6 (aka solaris 6) one
[02:15] <Lars_G> thankfully got rid of that one, not too long ago
[02:15] <BluesKaj> I really didn't get serious about linux til 2001 ...think I still have the disk around here some where , can't recall the OS tho
[02:15] <Coyotes> Nice hardware at least :)
[02:15] <Lars_G> BluesKaj: I've been linux only since the 90's
[02:15] <Lars_G> My brain works posix like
[02:15] <Coyotes> Like my old 2400+ Athlon Mobile on a desktop board, or my laptop's P-III.
[02:15] <Lars_G> so I can't stand real work on windows
[02:15] <Lars_G> I miss the console
[02:16] <Lars_G> and /dev, /proc, bash scripts, pipes, the works
[02:16] <Coyotes> Console=redirect and filter=can't get that in a GUI!
[02:16] <BluesKaj> long enuff , Lars_G , Linus didn't wite the j=kernel til 91 or 92
[02:16] <Lars_G> BluesKaj: been at it since around 97
[02:16] <Coyotes> That's like saying you didn't get any Nintendo system until 1986.  :P
[02:16] <Lars_G> or 96
[02:17] <BluesKaj> I never had nintendo...my kids did tho :)
[02:17] <Lars_G> Coyotes: and damn, serial consoles have saved my ass on quite a few servers
[02:17] <BluesKaj> the OT cops will be here soon :)
[02:17] <Lars_G> I had nintendo, quite late, don't know exactly when but I did
[02:17] <Coyotes> Actually, a better GUI can do a lot of the stuff using macros and plugins... but it's a lot easier showing someone a text file that's 3KB instead of a video that's 30MB.
[02:17] <Lars_G> answer me then
[02:18] <Lars_G> someobody's gonna integrate that kde ui into a kubuntu netbook remix? :D
[02:18] <Coyotes> Yeah remember old dual-monitor support on VGA+mono screens?
[02:18] <Coyotes> You get SICE or such.
[02:18] <Coyotes> And use a serial port to kill/start/control tasks.
[02:18] <hackerx> anyone here a programmer?
[02:18] <Coyotes> Use the mono monitor for hacking :)
[02:18] <Lars_G> hackerx: pretty vague, but I am
[02:19] <Coyotes> I'd say at least 80% of use program at least a little.
[02:19] <BluesKaj> !hack
[02:19] <Lars_G> Coyotes: nah, my last mono monitor was on my epson qx-10
[02:19] <Coyotes> Maybe 20%+ are good
[02:19] <Lars_G> that was cpm, not linux ;)
[02:19] <BluesKaj> !hacker
[02:19] <Coyotes> No, I meant DOS and Windows...
[02:19] <BluesKaj> !piracy
[02:19] <Coyotes> A hacker is a player of D&D who likes axes.
[02:19] <Coyotes> lol@bot
[02:19] <Lars_G> lol
[02:19] <Lars_G> Coyotes: we had one we used to call moulinex
[02:19] <BluesKaj> !coc
[02:20] <Coyotes> Cut and slice... program and debug... damn it's still as bloody!
[02:20] <Lars_G> Coyotes: ambidextrous trickin.
[02:20] <hackerx> Lars_G : I ask because Im looking into doing that as I job I guess you would say.. Just interested in how other people went about it.. types of classes and such
[02:20] <Coyotes> Lots and lots of C/C++.
[02:20] <Coyotes> VB stuff is useless for making OSes and such.
[02:20] <Coyotes> Make your interface and such in a 'pretty' language.
[02:20] <Coyotes> Implement backend using something like C.
[02:21] <Coyotes> Fast+stable+easy to debug
[02:21] <Lars_G> don't diss pretty languages, I'm a ruby head
[02:21] <Coyotes> PYthon too?
[02:21] <Lars_G> Getting into it
[02:21] <Lars_G> mainly because I can hack quick stuff on my symbian phone
[02:21] <Coyotes> Machine language is beaultiful compared to Asm...  but really hard to even read, yet alone make.  :)
[02:21] <Lars_G> but I still like ruby
[02:21] <Lars_G> better
[02:21] <Coyotes> MAchine code!=CPU instructions
[02:21] <Coyotes> We're talking And/Or/etc.
[02:22] <negnar> erf sensors me dit qu'ils ne trouvent pas de ventilo pwm alors que le radbox l'est x)
[02:22] <Lars_G> machine lang IS cpu instructions.
[02:22] <Coyotes> I hate that junk but it's the only way to make FPGAs useful.
[02:22] <Lars_G> what you mean is basic comp architecture, lower level than a functioning cpu
[02:22] <Coyotes> Someone invented a C compiler for them hehe
[02:22] <Lars_G> VHDL
[02:22] <Coyotes> Ring -1
[02:22] <Lars_G> is what you talking about
[02:22] <Coyotes> Ring -2 etc
[02:22] <Coyotes> lol
[02:22] <kris> Hi. Is there an equalizer or normalizer program for ALSA?
[02:22] <Lars_G> for fpgas it's vhdl
[02:22] <Coyotes> Ultimate debugging is to hack at the analog level...  But no sane will.
[02:23] <Coyotes> Oh sorry Kris
[02:23] <Lars_G> hmmm
[02:23] <Coyotes> Let me look.
[02:23] <kris> Coyotes: Thank you, in advance.
[02:24] <Coyotes> Found one already I think!
[02:24] <Coyotes> Googled "ALSA filter equalizer"
[02:24] <Coyotes> You need the word "filter" I think.
[02:24] <kris> Ah. Thank you!
[02:24] <BluesKaj> interesting article here : http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=874&tag=nl.e011
[02:24] <Coyotes> plugin or filter is normal term.
[02:24] <Coyotes> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/alsa-equalizer-351373/
[02:24] <kris> Got a link, please?
[02:25] <kris> Thanks.
[02:42] <Kirbon> how do you reinstall dpkg
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> Kirbon: apt-get has a --reinstall option.
[02:47] <Kirbon> i tried that and it says invalid command
[02:47] <sub[t]rnl> show me what you typed
[02:50] <Kirbon> apt-get --reinstall
[02:50] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get --reinstall dpkg
[02:51] <Kirbon> i got this apt-get --reinstall dpkg
[02:51] <Kirbon> E: Invalid operation dpkg
[02:52] <sub[t]rnl> use "sudo"
[02:52] <Kirbon> im in terminal as root
[02:53] <Kirbon> ill try it though
[02:53] <aj_44_4> I'm installing ubuntu netbook remix on my asus eee pc 1005ha, and I've hit a road bump. this explains the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1249742 . The tutorial is not in depth enough and this is my first time working with something other than windows.
[02:53] <sub[t]rnl> sorry, sudo apt-get install --reinstall dpkg
[02:55] <Kirbon> it doesnt work because apt-get is what is broke
[02:55] <Kirbon> it didnt fetch the files to reinstall
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> whats the error messages, exactly
[02:56] <Kirbon> lengthy better pvt it
[02:56] <Kirbon> if thats ok
[02:57] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[02:59] <BluesKaj> Kirbon, I've never heard of installing dkpg with apt , it' usually installed by default with the OS
[03:04] <Coyotes> Hmm Linux should be mostly installed by now - brb
[03:13] <Coyotes> What would be a good channel to ask if there's a CPU coming out with just PCI-E 1x, SATA, and USB 2 I/O?  It would be great for making a netbook.
[03:13] <alonsoc> hi
[03:13] <jeremy> Hello.
[03:14] <jeremy> Anyone feel like helping me with a super newbie question?
[03:14] <Coyotes> hi I guess so :)
[03:14] <jeremy> I got rid of the taskbar on the panel and have no idea how to get it back.
[03:15] <jeremy> Just barely installed kubuntu, not used to it yet.
[03:15] <jeremy> ^^
[03:15] <Coyotes> Look in the KDE folder...
[03:16] <Coyotes> .kde*
[03:16] <jeremy> Sorry. I warned that it was super newbie. ^^;
[03:17] <Coyotes> The settings are there.   OK I'll get the exact info in a second.
[03:17] <jeremy> I really appreciate it.
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> jeremy- right-click the desktop and you'll see an option to add a panel
[03:17] <Coyotes> I'm thinking there has to be a text file to edit or a command in the GUI...  lol I just switched to Kubuntu myself from the Gnome desktop (Ubuntu)
[03:18] <jeremy> Ok, I have a panel on the top of the screen, but I don't know how to get it so that applications are displaying on it.
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Coyotes- CPU's aren't really related to any of those features. Do you mean motherboards?
[03:18] <jeremy> If that's a particular widget I don't know what it's called.
[03:18] <alonsoc> hey guys, im using gnome ... i have a lot of troubles with msn client while using kopete, which msn client would u recommend me? or do you think kopete is fine, and there 's  a fix for my proble,?
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> jeremy- add a new Task Manager widget
[03:19] <jeremy> Normally I use pidgen for IM'ing.
[03:19] <Coyotes> I mean why not make a CPU that only interacts over serial busses.
[03:19] <Coyotes> For ultra-cheap, ultra-small machines.
[03:19] <jeremy> Oh my, thanks so much Dragnslcr !
[03:19] <jeremy> I'm used to that being a system moniter.
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Coyotes- because that's not really the job of the CPU? That depends a lot more on the motherboard and chipsets
[03:20] <Coyotes> Cool - now I learned something about the taskbar without extensive reading.  Thanks :)
[03:20] <Coyotes> Well ever here of system on a chip?
[03:20] <Coyotes> We're talking about a machine the size of a pack of playing cards.
[03:21] <Coyotes> Flash drive, RAM, CPU, all really small.
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Anyway, that doesn't have anything to do with Kubuntu
[03:21] <Coyotes> Yeah
[03:21] <Coyotes> I meant to ask in another channel but no one told me which so I stopped... but then you asked.  :)
[03:22] <Coyotes> lol
[03:22] <Coyotes> OK Back in topic
[03:22] <jeremy> Being brand new to Linux, I would like to ask, is there a difference in programming windowed applications in GNOME and KDE?
[03:23] <jeremy> I've only ever done Windows apps before.
[03:25] <digmore> Hi, I just update apache/php on ubuntu. I try http://localhost on firefox. It refuses to connect. I am able to ping localhost, any idea?
[03:29] <rmrfslash> Anyone notice anything funky going on w/ Ctrl key lately?
[03:29] <_TJ> like what?
[03:30] <_TJ> digmore: check ur firewall/port fwd
[03:30] <neomantra82> digmore: i think you can pretty much always ping your own box.  are you sure the apache service is actually running right now?  and are you certain it's running on port 80?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> jeremy- Gnome uses GTK, and KDE uses Qt, but both of them can run both GTK and Qt programs
[03:30] <jeremy> Dragnslcr - Thanks for the answer. I'll do a bit of research on GTK/Qt then. Good to know they can both be used.
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> jeremy- I haven't really worked with them, though, so I couldn't tell you which toolkit is easier to use
[03:31] <rmrfslash> Well, I'm not entirely sure what is going on but if I hit the control key it toggles something on
[03:31] <rmrfslash> I think it causes kubuntu to think I'm continually holding down Ctrl + Shift until I hit the Ctrl key twice to "unstick" it
[03:34] <rmrfslash> Well, right there I was able to cause kubuntu to think I was continually holding down the control key
[03:35] <rmrfslash> happens w/ either control key too.... so I'm pretty much ruling out a hardware problem
[03:36] <neomantra82> rmrfslash: maybe you turned on "sticky keys"?  try going to system settings -> accesibility, and then the 'modifier keys' tab and see if you have sticky keys enabled.  then see if turning it off changes the behavior.
[03:36] <neomantra82> i think holding down shift for a few seconds activates it
[03:36] <neomantra82> and can also turn it off
[03:37] <rmrfslash> neomantra82: I love you
[03:37] <rmrfslash> I was seriously about to die. Honestly, I have no clue how the hell sticky keys became enabled
[03:40] <neomantra82> awesome, glad i could help :)
[03:42] <rmrfslash> So glad that problem is solved.
[03:42] <rmrfslash> Thanks
[03:42] <rmrfslash> I'm sure I'll be back on.... :)
[03:42] <rmrfslash> goin to bed now
[03:54] <digmore> neomantra82: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start --> Starting web server apache2 --> type localhost on firefox, not working
[03:54] <digmore> neomantra82: not sure how to check port 80 or not
[03:57] <Lynn789> a friend of miine is having problems with her computer her usb ports have power running through them but they do not register anything else. any ideas on how to make them work again?
[03:59] <Coyotes> Have you tried a Live CD?
[03:59] <Coyotes> If it suddenly happened, then it could be lightning or a software glitch...  Elimination.
[03:59] <Lynn789> we tried to do that yesterday and her cd and dvd players were not working either.
[03:59] <Coyotes> ...
[03:59] <Coyotes> lol it's the hardware
[04:00] <Coyotes> Sorry
[04:00] <Coyotes> But yes you could try another CD-ROM drive.
[04:01] <Coyotes> Do you have a spare CD-ROM?
[04:01] <Coyotes> It just has to boot.
[04:01] <Coyotes> No burning required.
[04:01] <Lynn789> a couple others were helping me with it. it was registering through the system that it was there and was working. they were booting up in a weird order so they had me -r each one in sudo and the install again in the correct order in terminal box
[04:02] <Coyotes> Is even a mouse not working?
[04:02] <Coyotes> Mice almost never die, but drives can.  :(
[04:03] <Lynn789> well we had to borrow an old mouse that you plug in like the keyboard. otherwise no because her mouse is a usb mouse
[04:03] <Lynn789> it was lighting up to indicate it had power but then not working after that
[04:03] <Coyotes> I would try taking out each piece of hardware and testing seperately.  Like:  Try her CD/DVD on your system.
[04:04] <_TJ> O_O
[04:05] <Coyotes> Tried your USB mouse and keyboard?  IF the keyboard won't let you access the BIOS and you're sure that the BIOS is set to support it...  board will need replacement.
[04:05] <Coyotes> Luckily the board probably is only problem.
[04:06] <Lynn789> keyboard works because it is not plugged into a usb but the mouse was. like i said we borrowed an older mouse that plugs in the same as the keyboard.
[04:06] <Coyotes> Funny story:  My mom's computer did that weird stuff where one or both drives would randomly not be detected... Replaced cables and wow it was like it was fixed or something.  ;)
[04:06] <Coyotes> Got a USB keyboarD?
[04:07] <Coyotes> I think you fried a chip on the board...
[04:07] <Lynn789> well this computer has appx 6 or 7 usb ports and none of them work
[04:07] <Coyotes> Ick...
[04:08] <Coyotes> Normally I'd say it was a software issue but...  you have other stuff broke before the OS is even loaded.
[04:08] <Coyotes> let's take this into private
[04:13] <rcs29us> hi
[04:14] <Coyotes> hello
[04:14] <rcs29us> hola
[04:15] <Campusano> holas
[04:15] <rcs29us> buenas noches
[04:17] <digmore> hi, how do I check apache2 is running
[04:18] <keldin> ps -all in term?
[04:19] <keldin> ps -e   try that
[04:21] <digmore> should i do --> ps -e | grep apache2
[04:21] <Coyotes> OR use Pgrep :)
[04:21] <keldin> sounds good I was just guessing
[04:21] <keldin> newbie too
[04:21] <Coyotes> Yeah either :)
[04:22] <keldin> did you try to go to http://localhost:8080/ and see if a page shows?
[04:23] <digmore> ps -e | grep apache2 ---> output nothing --> assume apache2 is not running
[04:23] <Coyotes> There's a command to list open ports as well...
[04:23] <Coyotes> Been a few months so I can't remember offhand.  :/
[04:24] <Coyotes> Server off=port not trapped
[04:24] <Coyotes> 'unopen'
[04:24] <Coyotes> If you see port 80 then obviously apache is going
[04:25] <Coyotes> netstat
[04:25] <Coyotes> heh
[04:27] <digmore> hmmm.. didn't see port 80
[04:27] <keldin> i just installed tomcat6 package from package manager
[04:27] <keldin> and did "http://localhost:8080/" and the default page comes up with no tweaking
[04:29] <keldin> don't ask me how to change anything on it though
[04:36] <digmore> just wonder, am I supposed to see something like    netstat -->tcp 0 0 localhost:80  localhost:???         ESTABLISHED
[04:37] <Coyotes> localhost or 127.0.0.1 or something
[04:37] <Coyotes> yeah
[04:38] <digmore> I see a few localhost but none of them are with 80
[04:42] <keldin> did you look at the logs in /var/logs/apache2
[04:50] <keldin> digmore
[04:50] <keldin> goto /usr/sbin
[04:51] <keldin> run ./apache2ctl start
[04:54] <keldin> works for me i had to do sudo ./apache2ctl stop         then did again with start
[05:00] <digmore> sudo ./apache2ctl stop
[05:00] <digmore> httpd (no pid file) not running
[05:02] <keldin> did you try start then?
[05:03] <keldin> sudo ./apache2ctl start
[05:04] <keldin> you could install KSystemLog from add/remove and look at the daemons.log for any clues as to why it didn't start or the error logs in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[05:04] <digmore> the error log said --> PHP Warning:  [eAccelerator] This build of "eAccelerator" was compiled for PHP version 5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1.
[05:05] <digmore> Let me fix this first
[05:10] <digmore> thx keldin. I should look at the error log first
[05:10] <Coyotes> eAcceleration?  Isn't that the company that makes Stop-Sign?  ;)
[05:12] <digmore> I don't have a habbit to look at error log XD
[05:15] <keldin> good luck going back to installing kubuntu
[05:15] <digmore> me?
[05:15] <keldin> me
[05:16] <digmore> what did u use before?
[05:16] <keldin> i have vmware fusion on mac osx running 9.04 ubuntu it installed gnome (yuck)
[05:16] <keldin> want to get back to kde
[05:16] <keldin> i am downloading and installing kubuntu package now
[05:16] <keldin> how do i switch once its installed to kde?
[05:17] <dwidmann_> keldin: log out, select kde from the gdm menu, log in
[05:18] <keldin> i didnt see an option to change, but once the package is done does an option show up?
[05:18] <dwidmann_> keldin: should
[05:19] <dwidmann_> keldin: should be a menu that you can get to, probably by clicking something along the bottom
[05:19] <keldin> i started with unix on ibm AIX with CDE so i've always been more partial to KDE than gnome (I am trying to not use windows dont want a copy of it).
[05:21] <keldin> i havent used ubuntu in a while been stuck in osx win world last i used was version 6.something its been a while
[05:22] <keldin> looks good in vmware on mac osx though, if i get this working will install on a netbook
[05:22] <dwidmann_> keldin: things have changed a bit, mostly for the better, but some things are still catching up to what they once were
[05:23] <keldin> thats an interesting statement - btw had to use this to get vmware fusion to work with 9.04 it worked good though
[05:24] <keldin> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/208507
[05:24] <keldin> download finished installing, after is done i will be back going to try to switch to kde
[05:26] <bhabalinux> hello everyone
[05:26] <keldin> hi
[05:27] <bhabalinux> how do I identify unwanted source files
[05:32] <keldin> does it help to add more cores to ubuntu in vmware? i have 8 cores right now only giving 1 core to unbuntu
[05:33] <keldin> should I increase to 2 or 3?
[05:33] <Coyotes> Why limit ourselves?  IF I could get it legally, I'd make a hard drive for Mac OSX just to try... But most of the stuff I want on there is in Linux anyways.  :P
[05:34] <keldin> i already pre-ordered snow leopard its only $24
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> keldin- if the CPU usage is below 50%, I wouldn't bother
[05:34] <keldin> just get the hack to install the disk is only $24
[05:35] <Coyotes> Isn't it illegal though on my Dell or other non-MAc?  I wish Apple would create a version for generic PCs but then it wouldn't be Apple a nymore :)
[05:35] <Coyotes> I aint going that route
[05:36] <keldin> i have a macbook (pre-aluminum) and macpro 8 core tower
[05:36] <keldin> so not did it myself
[05:36] <keldin> this package is taking forever to install still in preconfigure stage
[05:37] <Coyotes> I DO have a dual core G4 just sitting waiting on a $280 power supply ;)
[05:37] <Coyotes> Friend wants me to fix it but only so we could sell it.
[05:37] <keldin> i don't think g4/g5 can run snow leopard they are removing powerpc code
[05:38] <Coyotes> Aww
[05:38] <keldin> i think leopard is the end of the line
[05:38] <Coyotes> Well it's only about the same as a high end P3 anyways...
[05:38] <keldin> i miss classic mode (to run wordperfect)
[05:38] <Coyotes> Figured some collecter wants the thing to run some Apple-Only stuff in a closet somewhere.
[05:39] <keldin> g4/g5 you could still run clasic with panther with os9
[05:39] <Coyotes> My stepmom does that with a machine only used for Air card
[05:39] <Coyotes> Airport*
[05:40] <keldin> yep apples lifecycle is much shorter than most
[05:41] <keldin> i'd order a netbook from dell but why are they still selling ubuntu 8 instead of 9.04?
[05:47] <Coyotes> Until they get the drivers tested I'd imagine...
[05:48] <Coyotes> Heh, I bet there's a guy at Dell that does nothing but look on forums and places like this for bugs.
[05:48] <Coyotes> Then when most bugs are fixed, they upgrade.
[05:49] <keldin> yeah, i was thinking about it its only about $400, but i don't want to figure the problems out if wifi doesnt work or something major
[05:59] <Coyotes> It's too bad that 8.04 on my desktop was like running 98 first edition :(
[05:59] <Coyotes> I heard that 8.10 and 9.04 fixed that issue.
[06:00] <keldin> just configured a 10.1 with my preferred options $818
[06:00] <Coyotes> Mac OS7=crash crash crash as well :)
[06:01] <keldin> i want to get one before they switch netbooks to arm
[06:02] <keldin> i'd rather have intel atom, won't you have to recompile everything you install if dell switches to arm for netbook linux?
[06:03] <keldin> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/08/new-dell-arm-combo-poised-to-take-on-wintel-netbooks.ars
[06:08] <keldin> going to veg with tv while this installs., later
[06:09] <fyan> hi all
[06:09] <fyan> good day
[06:09] <fyan> any one can help me
[06:13] <Coyotes> hmm what with?
[06:20] <keldin> kubuntu/kde finished installing but it seems to have lost the vmware tools settings
[06:20] <keldin> do i have to reinstall vmwaretoools?
[06:22] <Coyotes> Bah about to have to do that myself lol
[06:22] <Coyotes> I guess I can research for both of us
[06:23] <Coyotes> Got to move laptop to living room - brb
[06:25] <fyan> how can i install some addons aplications for kubuntu
[06:25] <fyan> like flashplayer
[06:25] <fyan> or pidgin
[06:30] <nibbles> OK Now I'm checking...  THe big thing is the kernel version!
[06:30] <nibbles> Err
[06:30] <Coyotes> Ok :)
[06:32] <keldin> right click on the desktop and click run command start typeing synaptic package manager
[06:32] <keldin> and run it when it comes up, search for under all flash
[06:32] <keldin> or pidgin
[06:32] <Coyotes> Trying Konquer on my desktop next to me :)
[06:33] <Coyotes> Come to think of it...  I never tried 32-bit 8.04 so it might have been my driver support.  :/
[06:53] <skibur> hello
[06:54] <skibur> ?
[06:59] <skibur> amarok crashes, anybody have this problem?
[07:11] <skibur> hello
[07:12] <jonathan__> Hi everyone
[07:12] <jonathan__> what's going on
[07:13] <jonathan__> anyone here?
[07:17] <skibur> hello
[07:26] <noaXess> good morning
[07:27] <noaXess> my automatic update doesn't work.. it's enabled, but no auto update.. need always check manually wiht sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:27] <noaXess> any idea?
[09:05] <noren> hi
[09:05] <noren> hi all need help in enabling the thesarus in Oo3
[09:16] <larsaa> Hi, anyone know how to use ping with a cidr address?
[09:28] <Coyotes> http://www.ipaddressguide.com/cidr.aspx
[09:29] <Coyotes> http://www.pcredline.com/tools/cidrping.php
[09:29] <Coyotes> THose should help.
[09:32] <rahman> hi, I have compiled kde trunk, how can I make kdm default login manager instead of gdm?
[09:37] <theatro> hi rahman
[09:37] <theatro> first try this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:41] <rahman> theatro: well, I already did this: * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...                                                                * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[09:42] <rahman> Is there some config file some where in /etc to edit?
[09:42] <keith> Is this the channel for 9.10 related issues?
[09:42] <theatro> yes rahman ok
[09:42] <theatro> change gdm to kdm here /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:45] <rahman> theatro: there is no default-display-manager under /etc/X11
[09:45] <theatro> hm?
[09:45] <johnpaul> hello is anyone girl here who can talk I'm depressed now
[09:46] <theatro> johnpaul, stop being depressed
[09:46] <johnpaul> hello theatro
[09:46] <theatro> rahman, well I only have kdm and this file only has one line with this:  /usr/bin/kdm
[09:47] <johnpaul> how  can i avoid my depressed
[09:47] <theatro> rahman, kdm is configured from system settings > Advanced tab > Login Manager
[09:48] <keith> Karmic issues here... yes? no?
[09:48] <rahman> theatro: I have only gdm and there is no such file :) I have kdm installed from svn so dpkg doesnt aware of it
[09:48] <theatro> ah rahman
[09:49] <rahman> keith:  #ubuntu+1 as I know
[09:49] <theatro> thats an important detail to tell in advance
[09:49] <johnpaul> does anyone know
[09:49] <keith> rahman, does that apply to kubuntu karmic issues?
[09:49] <johnpaul> how to install andriod in kubuntu
[09:49] <theatro> johnpaul, excercise and healthy diet
[09:50] <rahman> keith: better ask there if it is not kde related
[09:50] <keith> rahman, it is kde related. :)
[09:52] <yesitisjustme> is there a software that could tell you how much ram your computer can handle?
[09:52] <keith> yesitisjustme, your best bet would be to look for information from the manufacturer of your motherboard
[09:53] <keith> yesitisjustme, or maybe a site/company that sells ram. Sometimes they have that information.
[09:53] <yesitisjustme> is a laptop brand i never heard of before
[09:53] <yesitisjustme> ok
[09:53] <keith> yesitisjustme, some ram sites, like crucial or kingston let you search by brand and model.
[09:54] <yesitisjustme> ok
[09:54] <rahman> Any body know when will knetworkmanager will be feature complete as nm-applet in gnome?
[09:54] <keith> I am using a VM to run Kubuntu, and when I mount a CD in the VM, it doesn't automount in Kubuntu. Which I assume is by design. When I click to open the CD in the "Recently Plugged in Devices" it works fine. But if I first try to open the disc from Computer in the menu, it does not mount, and then will not mount from "Recently Plugged in Devices". Am I doing something wrong? or is this a bug?
[09:54] <yesitisjustme> thanks
[09:54] <rahman> its kde 4.3 and still there is no fully working network manager
[09:55] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[09:56] <rahman> keith: not auto-mounting is by desing
[09:57] <keith> rahman, but what about not mounting from the kicker?
[09:57] <rahman> keith: it seems its a bug
[09:58] <rahman> do you get any error messages
[09:58] <keith> rahman, No... Xorg crashed when I was trying, but I think it is unrelated.
[09:58] <rahman> what version of kde?
[09:59] <rahman> keith: ^
[09:59] <keith> rahman, whatever is in the latest version of Karmic... 4.3? Not sure how to see the version.
[10:00] <rahman> yes 4.3. You can see it in any kde app's about dialog
[10:00] <keith> Yep, 4.3.00. Wasn't sure if there was a micro verson
[10:01] <keith> rahman, it could also be VM related, though I am thinking not.
[10:01] <rahman> if you can reproduce it every time you try, just search bugs.kde.org and fill a bug report
[10:03] <keith> rahman, ok... just wanted to make sure since I am not very familiar with KDE
[10:04] <rahman> btw in 4.4 trunk kiker still doesn't mount cd, but I can then mount it via devices applet
[10:04] <v6lur> if i enter a hebrew character into filename, the whole filename switches to right-to-left
[10:04] <v6lur> is there a way to get only the hebrew character(s) in RTL direction?
[10:04] <v6lur> (KDE 3.5.10, kubuntu 8.04)
[10:04] <v6lur> exact use case: a hebrew song title from a multilingual album
[10:05] <Mamarok> keith and rahman: please take Karmic related stuff to #ubuntu+1, also Karmic related bugs need to go to bugs.launchpad.net, not to bugs.kde.org
[10:05] <v6lur> is the only way to use romanized title?
[10:05] <FloodBotK1> v6lur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <keith> Mamarok, thanks.
[10:06] <Mamarok> keith: you are welcome :)
[10:09] <Mamarok> v6lur: sorry, I haven't uses 8.04 since quite a long time now
[10:15] <devon1> hey all
[10:15] <devon1>  ok my ubuntu crash on me and i couldnt boot it back up so i had to install a new copy on my hard drive i was wondering if there was a way to get back in it and get some of the files off of it using the fresh copy of ubuntu?
[10:15] <Mamarok> v6lur: but maybe setting your locale to UTF-8 or -16 might help, if it's not already done so
[10:16] <Mamarok> devon1: you rarely have to reinstall completely, debugging with a live CD should be your first move when you can't log in again
[10:17] <Mamarok> also you didn't specify the version you are talking about
[10:19] <Mamarok> devon1: please keep the discussion in this channel and answer my question
[10:19] <devon1> 9.4
[10:19] <Mamarok> 9.04 you mean, and you are unsing Kubuntu, right?
[10:19] <Mamarok> using*
[10:19] <devon1> yes sorry
[10:19] <jtheuer> !intel
[10:20] <Mamarok> ok, why exactly can't you log in again, did you get any error messages? and why did it crash?
[10:20] <Mamarok> jtheuer: please ask bot question in a query if those are not related to a support discussion
[10:21] <jtheuer> Mamarok: How do I do this? Or how do I privately ask the bot?
[10:21] <esperegu> anyone an idea why my wired ethernet might not be working? I have a dell studio 13. It worked before then started to get disconnected and now it does not get an IP at all anymore
[10:21] <Mamarok> jtheuer: just type /query ubottu !your question
[10:21] <jtheuer> thanks!
[10:22] <devon1> i log out of it last night and then turn my pc on this morning and it was totally gone i didnt get any error messages from it i couldnt even pick it when i went to boot also i try to boot my vista and it didnt boot to
[10:22] <Mamarok> esperegu: please be a bit more specific about your Kubuntu and KDE version
[10:22] <esperegu> Mamarok: kubuntu 9.04
[10:23] <esperegu> Mamarok: KDE 4.2.2
[10:23] <Mamarok> esperegu: and which KDE version? The default 4.2.2 I guess?
[10:23] <Mamarok> right :)
[10:23] <esperegu> Mamarok: =)
[10:23] <Mamarok> esperegu: you should try wicd instead of the default network manager, there are problems with WiFi connections
[10:23] <esperegu> Mamarok: I just also installed the ubuntu desktop and that also gave the problem
[10:24] <Bou> esperegu tallks about wired connection I think, not wireless?
[10:24] <Mamarok> devon1: did you get any grub login window or nothing at all?
[10:24] <esperegu> Mamarok: Wifi is working properly (using it right now) its abotu wired
[10:24] <esperegu> Bou: yeah indeed
[10:24] <devon1> nothing at all
[10:24] <Mamarok> esperegu: sorry, misread your question
[10:25] <Bou> esperegu: you tried with another wire?
[10:25] <Bou> (or cable, not sure of english word)
[10:25] <Mamarok> devon1: no message, no startup sign, nothing?
[10:25] <esperegu> Bou: yeah. even via my iphone which is connec.ted to another network. made no difference
[10:26] <Mamarok> devon1: sounds like a grub problem, but since you reinstalled it is a tad too late to repair grub :(
[10:27] <Mamarok> devon1: you reinstalled on a different partition, right?
[10:27] <devon1> nope nothing i just turn it on and it wasnt there my vitsa boot to the loading window and did nothing after i intalled my windows again and look at my hard drive i still saw the kbuntu on the hard drive
[10:27] <devon1> yes i did
[10:28] <devon1> its still there
[10:28] <Mamarok> devon1: ok, just to make sure, do you have your /home on a separate partition, too?
[10:28] <devon1> yes
[10:29] <esperegu> anyone a suggestion to get wired nic going?
[10:29] <Mamarok> devon1: ok, so you should be able to mount your old /home on a different location and copy over the content to your actual home
[10:30] <Mamarok> devon1: but  JFYI, installing Windows after Linux breaks grub and one just has to restore grub, no need to reinstall everything...
[10:30] <Mamarok> !grub | devon
[10:31] <devon1> o no i couldnt do anything with the pc it was totally dead windows and ubuntu both were dead
[10:32] <Mamarok> devon1: of course, as grub didn't load, you need to power up with a live CD and then follow the steps given in the link above to restore grub
[10:32] <devon1> no windows was in before grub
[10:33] <Mamarok> devon1: still, as the hard disk works, and you couldn't boot, there must have been a grub problem
[10:33] <devon1> im new to linux
[10:33] <devon1> ok
[10:33] <Mamarok> devon1: grub is the startup manager where you choose what to start, so if it doesn't load you can start nothing
[10:34] <devon1> so if i run that cmd off the live cd i should be able to get in to that 1st setup?
[10:34] <Mamarok> devon1: it should restore grub, but as you did reinstall everything, it is too late for that, what you want now is to get back your old files, right?
[10:35] <devon1> yes just some of them thats in there
[10:35] <Mamarok> devon1: well, mount that old partition in /media and then copy over the files
[10:35] <devon1> hrmmm
[10:36] <devon1> ok
[10:36] <devon1> im going to have to figure out how to do that
[10:36] <Mamarok> devon1: devon1 mount it in /media calling it /media/oldhome or such, as it still is labeled /home from the previous installation
[10:37] <devon1> ok i got ya now
[10:37] <devon1> thank you guys so much
[10:37] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[10:38] <Mamarok> devon1: this might also help:
[10:38] <Mamarok> !mount | devon1
[10:39] <Mamarok> hm, not exactly what I had in mind, second...
[10:39] <Mamarok> devon1: try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[10:39] <nacuwin> salam
[10:40] <nacuwin> i have problem with pidgin..what should i do?please ...
[10:40] <gjulian> nacuwin: what problem?
[10:40] <Guest52711> i have a problem
[10:40] <nacuwin> i run pidgin..but nothing happen..
[10:41] <Guest52711> i need to join undernet's network
[10:41] <Guest52711> who can help me?
[10:41] <devon1> ty again
[10:41] <Mamarok> Guest52711: what IRC client do you use?
[10:41] <Mamarok> devon1: you are welcome :)
[10:41] <Guest52711> Konversation
[10:41] <gjulian> nacuwin: do you have pidgin installed, right?
[10:41] <nacuwin> yeah,,
[10:41] <Mamarok> Guest52711: in KDE 4 I guess?
[10:42] <nacuwin> leat 2 weeks..it was fine
[10:42] <Guest52711> 3.5.10
[10:42] <gjulian> nacuwin: try to run pidgin from console, to see if there are any errors...
[10:42] <nacuwin> but after new installation..i never work
[10:42] <Guest52711> im new in ubuntu s.o.
[10:43] <Mamarok> Guest52711: in the Konversation main window, there is a menu option "file" where you can access a Server list, you need to add the network there
[10:43] <nacuwin> okies..wait.. i try first
[10:44] <Guest52711> yes.. but i dont know how to add the undernet server
[10:45] <nacuwin> erk...running from concole...?does that mean..by double clicking it?
[10:45] <gjulian> nacuwin: you open a console terminal, like Konsole, and then type pidgin
[10:46] <gjulian> nacuwin: then, you can see if there are any errors in there
[10:46] <nacuwin> ooo...
[10:46] <nacuwin> wait a...
[10:46] <nacuwin> heheh sori sori
[10:46] <nacuwin> it says "Exiting because another libpurple client is already running."
[10:47] <Bou> where I am supposed to report bugs affecting Kubuntu (using the experimental PPA) ?
[10:47] <gjulian> nacuwin: I don't know which programs use libpurple...
[10:48] <gjulian> nacuwin: which other IM programs are you running?
[10:48] <alvin> Bou: what's in the experimental PPA?
[10:48] <nacuwin> i am gjulian >> right onow im running..firefox..quaseelIRC..terminal...thats all
[10:49] <Bou> alvin: lastest packages, like more recent KDE for example
[10:49] <Bou> but it's "experimental" , ie: it could break
[10:50] <Guest52711> someone speak spanish?
[10:50] <Bou> !es|Guest52711
[10:50] <alvin> Ah, KDE 4.4 (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental). I would use the KDE bug tracker for that. https://bugs.kde.org
[10:50] <gjulian> nacuwin: It can be QuaseelIRC. Run lsof | grep libpurple and tell the output
[10:50] <Bou> alvin: yep.. except if the bug is related to kubuntu packaging :)
[10:51] <Mamarok> Guest52711: I haven't used the old Konversation since quite some time, but isn't there a "new button when you open the server list? There you can add the undernet server
[10:51] <nacuwin> gjulian>> already work..i shoud use sudo pidgin
[10:51] <nacuwin> but still can;t  double click it
[10:51] <gjulian> nacuwin: It's not very safe to run programs as root...
[10:51] <Mamarok> Bou: you should report Kubuntu bugs to bugs.launchpad.net
[10:51] <alvin> Bou: Launchpad should be ok then. I don't see any warnings about not reporting bugs
[10:52] <Bou> Mamarok, alvin: ok thx
[10:52] <nacuwin> gjulian : what should i do then?
[10:52] <Bou> is someone else around using the experimental PPA?
[10:52] <Mamarok> if it is a bug affecting upstream KDE, they will send it there anyway
[10:52] <Mamarok> Bou: I do, what is your problem?
[10:52] <Bou> first: is nepomuk activated by default on your side?
[10:53] <kimo> helo
[10:53] <gjulian> nacuwin: lsof | grep libpurple will tell you which programs are running the libpurple library. Then you only have to quit them to run pidgin
[10:53] <Mamarok> Bou: yes, but you need to set a symlink for a java library, else it will not work
[10:53] <Bou> i had to activate it in systeme settings > advanced > desktop search
[10:53] <Mamarok> Bou: Nepomuk runs default, Strigi doesn't, as it uses a lot of system power to creat the index
[10:54] <Mamarok> create* even
[10:54] <Bou> in my case nepomul wasn't activated
[10:54] <Bou> *nepomuk
[10:54] <Bou> where do you set the symlink for java library?
[10:54] <Mamarok> Bou: then you had some backends not installed I guess
[10:54] <gjulian> about strigi, I've never got it working...
[10:54] <Bou> well i 've been able to check the checkbox to activate it in settings..
[10:54] <nacuwin> gjulain :it says "pidgin    3411    nacuwin  mem       REG        7,0   889716  730018 /usr/lib/libpurple.so.0.5.5"
[10:54] <Mamarok> Bou: I found that in a forum when I googled for that, can't remember the link right now
[10:55] <Bou> ok i'll look for it
[10:55] <nacuwin> gjulain : only pidgin running ..am i right?
[10:55] <Bou> but it's weird
[10:55] <gjulian> nacuwin: yes...
[10:55] <Bou> because after i activated it in settings, tags navigation was working (more or less) in Gwenview
[10:55] <Bou> but I was not able to launch Dolphin anymore
[10:55] <Mamarok> Bou: and also check if you have the correct backend, should be soprano-backend-sesame
[10:56] <nacuwin> gjulain : i quit and i try "pidgin"..it won't work..
[10:56] <nacuwin> gjulain : i quit and i try "sudo pidgin"..it works..
[10:56] <Bou> Mamarok: ok i will check (not on the good pc right now), thx alot
[10:56] <Mamarok> nacuwin: don't use sudo to run a non system application
[10:56] <nacuwin> mmm....
[10:56] <Mamarok> Bou: you are welcome, a look at the Nepomuk website is also very helpful sometimes :)
[10:57] <Bou> ok
[10:57] <Bou> nepomuk is still mysterious for me, but what i saw briefly in Gwenview looked promising :))
[10:57] <gjulian> nacuwin: Run chmod +r /usr/lib/libpurple.so.0.5.5 and then try to run pidgin
[10:58] <nacuwin> ok..i try
[10:58] <Mamarok> Bou: well, it is still very much work in progress, so one has to tweak a lot, but should be solved in Karmic when it comes out :)
[10:59] <Bou> Mamarok: yep.. i saw some blogpost about a GSoC about it, which looked good too
[10:59]  * Bou thinks he will compile KDE from trunk tonight...
[11:00] <nacuwin> gjullian : it says "changing permissions of `/usr/lib/libpurple.so.0.5.5': Operation not permitted
[11:00] <gjulian> nacuwin: I forgot the sudo. sudo chmod +r /usr/lib/libpurple.so.0.5.5
[11:01] <Mamarok> Bou: or try the Neon KDE build, it takes from trunk
[11:01] <Mamarok> !neon
[11:02] <nacuwin> gjulian : nothin happen..terminal never ask for my password when using sudo command
[11:03] <Bou> Mamarok: yep, but i like to compile KDE, it's always full of surprise :p
[11:03] <Mamarok> Bou: :)
[11:03] <gjulian> nacuwin: you've run sudo before, so it doens't asks your pass for a while. And the GNU commands, if they don't say anything, it's all ok
[11:04] <gjulian> nacuwin: So, try to run pidgin now
[11:04] <nacuwin> gjulain: i doesnt work..
[11:04] <nacuwin> gjulain: it doesnt work..
[11:04] <OxDeadC0de> I don't know why but in 8.04 with the latest pidgin patches i couldn't get it to connect to yahoo im with the ip or scsa.msg.yahoo.com but cn.scs.msg.yahoo.com works for me. (The other does resolve just doesn't work..)
[11:06] <gjulian> nacuwin: well, there must be another program using libpurple...
[11:06] <gjulian> nacuwin: Run again  lsof | grep libpurple and post all the output to pastebin.com, then post here the url.
[11:10] <nacuwin> gjulain: i should select ? C or bash or ..?
[11:11] <gjulian> nacuwin: The format doesn't matters. Select None
[11:11] <gjulian> nacuwin: try to run sudo killall pidgin
[11:11] <nacuwin> gjulain: ii i did it right...the url is http://pastebin.com/m31f3417b
[11:12] <nacuwin> gjulain: okies..i am killing all the pidgin
[11:25] <nacuwin> gjulian..: tq..but still t wont work..
[11:25] <nacuwin> i will try again
[11:25] <nacuwin> tq..really apreciate it.
[11:25] <nacuwin> gtg
[11:55] <nztal> kubuntu
[11:55] <nztal> oops sorry
[12:24] <liquidat> Hi there, does anyone know why ksig is not part of Kubuntu anymore?
[12:40] <bigjools> is anyone using kde with the intel xorg driver on jaunty and seeing swap usage gradually increase?
[12:44] <alvin> bigjools: Yes, eventually your swap will fill and your system will crash.
[12:44] <bigjools> alvin: ah good it's not just me then
[12:45] <bigjools> do we know if it's a bug in xorg-intel or plasma?
[12:45] <alvin> Well, you can try to use UXA. It's an improvement in most cases. Some people just crash faster
[12:46] <bigjools> it's unacceptably slow for me :(
[12:49] <alvin> bigjools: Then this is what you're looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting
[12:52] <bigjools> alvin: I actually tried the karmic kernel + new xorg driver on jaunty, but it broke suspend/resume.  Maybe it's better now.
[12:56] <alvin> I'll try again in a few weeks. Right now I was experimenting with Karmic as kvm host for Kubuntu but so far it has been a disaster. (ssh leaves zombies and ext4 causes panics and data loss)
[13:00] <bigjools> also, has anyone had a problem with being unable to log out after upgrading to 4.3?
[13:02] <Mamarok> bigjools: that is a known problem, yes
[13:03] <bigjools> ah, is there a known fix as well? :)
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:13] <Lincoln_> e ai kambada
[14:13] <Lincoln_> ???
[14:14] <Lincoln_> Linus??? se ta ai mew fio!!! ???
[14:14] <Lincoln_> da raduuuuuuuki RIUUUUUU
[14:14] <Lincoln_> !!!
[14:14] <Bou> !br|Lincoln_
[14:15] <Lincoln_> BLZ!!
[14:27] <NlinuxUsr> hello every body
[14:27] <NlinuxUsr> can anyone tell  me if i must install antivirus or not
[14:27] <NlinuxUsr> because i am new user
[14:28] <NlinuxUsr> i know gnu/linux is free of virus
[14:28] <genii> NlinuxUsr: It's not really needed. But if you transfer files to a Windows box from the Linux box you might want one
[14:28] <NlinuxUsr> i don't do this
[15:19] <shahul> how to find a word in the entire files of a current dir?
[15:20] <shahul> using kdevelop
[15:20] <shahul> what chanhe has to make in settings
[15:22] <carpii> shahul, theres a 'find in files' tab at the bottom
[15:22] <carpii> tho i read kdevelop 4.x doesnt have this feature yet, so you may need to just grep from terminal :/
[15:23] <shahul> ok.. carpii
[15:24] <shahul> there is no other option to find a word?
[15:24] <carpii> not afaik
[15:24] <carpii> is the tab not visible ?
[15:24] <carpii> try ALT+CTRL+F
[15:25] <jim88> hi all ... need to know how to create a new desktop screen in KDE4
[15:29] <BluesKaj> jim88, right click on the desktop , desktop settings ..go from there, , you can choose an image from the web or your pic file , anything you wish
[15:31] <jim88> BluesKaj:  I meant the whole screen ... you know how you can reduce the screen from the top right corner but how do you create another one
[15:38] <matteo_> ciao
[15:38] <zoiss> hey guys. where is the autostart location that is responsible for starting up klipper and kmix ?
[15:38] <matteo_> hello
[15:46] <rahman> hi are there any body that can use amarok from git? I compile it with success but when I try to scan my collection, I get lots os mysql error in console output and amarok doesn't build collection
[15:46] <carpii> i thought amarok used sqllite rather than mysql ?
[15:47] <rahman> ıt uses mysql embedded
[15:47] <carpii> ok, but its optional
[15:47] <carpii> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[15:47] <rahman> runs without a running mysql server
[15:48] <rahman> carpii: no its required. you can't compile without mysql-embedded
[15:48] <carpii> ok, seems im out of date then
[15:48] <rahman> I am talking about 2.x btw
[15:49] <carpii> ok
[15:49] <carpii> have you tried http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Development/MySQL_Embedded ?
[15:54] <rahman> carpii: well, it seems its related with my problem. thanks :)
[15:55] <carpii> np :)
[16:00] <skibur> why does amarok crash when I a start it?
[16:01] <gjulian> skibur: any error message?
[16:02] <apparle> skibur: open konsole and the type amarok and press enter.........you will see all the what error you are getting
[16:04] <skibur> I see the error, but don't know will fix it
[16:05] <gjulian> skibur: post the error here
[16:06] <skibur> http://pastebin.com/m20591dae
[16:08] <gjulian> skibur: Looks like a bad installation of amarok...
[16:08] <gjulian> try reinstalling
[16:09] <skibur> I did  sudo apt-get remove amarok and remove the folder from my user account.
[16:09] <skibur> I reinstalled it and I got the same thing
[16:10] <skibur> let me try it again
[16:14] <apparle> skibur: Try 'sudo apt-get purge amarok' it will also remove all the configuration file of amarok
[16:15] <skibur> ok
[16:15] <skibur> reinstalling
[16:15] <skibur> ....
[16:18] <skibur> same outcome
[16:18] <skibur> :(
[16:20] <apparle> skibur: try restarting........may be
[16:20] <skibur> brb
[16:21] <apparle> what
[16:47] <skibur> completely remove and purge amarok.  I restarted, but nothing.
[16:47] <skibur> :(
[16:47] <gjulian> skibur: Try to compile from trunk
[16:47] <skibur> yeah
[16:47] <skibur> will do
[16:59] <nitin_> hi
[17:00] <nitin_> i just installed kubuntu 9.04, i'd like to know what packages do i have to install to play mp3s and watch videos and movies? please help me.
[17:05] <gjulian> nitin_: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:05] <nitin_> thanks a lot.
[17:12] <bhabalinux> hi
[17:12] <dedi> gg
[17:14] <qelqoth> hi ppl
[17:14] <makdaknife> hi
[17:15] <qelqoth> got a problem with xserver-xorg
[17:15] <apparle> help me with this guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/259927/
[17:16] <qelqoth> anyone able to help?
[17:16] <gjulian> qelqoth: what problem?
[17:16] <qelqoth> got a problem with xserver-xorg
[17:16] <qelqoth> resolution issue - already tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh but getting nowhere
[17:17] <deitarion> Somewhere in the upgrade from Hardy through Intrepid to Jaunty, my mother's Kubuntu setup started ignoring its paper settings, causing the HP LaserJet 4M to say "PC LOAD A4" and require manual override for each page. (We're Canadian) Solution?
[17:17] <gjulian> qelqoth: but, what error? it doesn't start? it start but you can't see anything?
[17:17] <qelqoth> yeah, i have a display lol
[17:18] <qelqoth> i'm just not able to change the resolution
[17:18] <qelqoth> which is weird because it was fine prior to updating
[17:19] <gjulian> qelqoth: I think this is a drivers problem. Have you installed them?
[17:19] <qelqoth> brand new pc - seems to pick up the drivers
[17:19] <qelqoth> just want to figure out how to configure the resolution
[17:23] <bhabalinux> did you try system settings>display?
[17:24] <qelqoth> tried that
[17:24] <bhabalinux> didn't work?
[17:24] <qelqoth> then i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[17:24] <qelqoth> but changing the resolution that way doesn't work either
[17:25] <bhabalinux> I have no idea what else to do
[17:25] <BluesKaj> editing xorg.conf is extremely limited now
[17:25] <bhabalinux> i think its just to do with the graphic drivers then..
[17:26] <qelqoth> aye but that's odd
[17:26] <qelqoth> cuz the resolution was fine when i used the live CD
[17:26] <qelqoth> and was also fine before i updated
[17:27] <qelqoth> btw, using ubuntu 7.0.4
[17:27] <BluesKaj> 7.04 is not LTS
[17:28] <genii> 7.04 is also way past it's End Of Life
[17:28] <BluesKaj> qelqoth, ubuntu as in gnome
[17:28] <qelqoth> Aye but there are still repositories for it
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:28] <qelqoth> This is what i'm saying - it worked fine earlier
[17:29] <BluesKaj> graphics card ?
[17:29] <qelqoth> i'm guessing it's got something to do with the updates - no problems prior to that so it would make sense
[17:29] <qelqoth> i just wanted to know if anyone was able to help??
[17:30] <qelqoth> graphics card is fine mate
[17:31] <qelqoth> like i said, it worked perfectly on the live cd and after install, prior to update
[17:32] <qelqoth> so the only thing i can think of is that the problem is a result of the update
[17:32] <qelqoth> anyhow - i tried -sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and that doesn't let me adjust the resolution either
[17:41] <Pavel__> hey, I'm trying to fix some coworkers macs.  I know nothing of osx.  Anyone know of any irc support channels for it?
[17:43] <carpii> #mac ?
[17:44] <Mamarok> carpii: what are you doing?
[17:44] <carpii> hm?
[17:44] <Mamarok> oh, sorry, didn't see the earlier question :(
[17:45] <carpii> :)
[18:14]  * genii makes more coffee
[18:15] <anbe> hi
[18:15] <NlinuxUsr> hi everybody
[18:15] <NlinuxUsr> anyone here use lazarus
[18:15] <NlinuxUsr> hi anbe
[18:16] <genii> NlinuxUsr: I am using another program called Falcon
[18:17] <NlinuxUsr> dose it the same work like kylix or lazarus
[18:21] <genii> NlinuxUsr: It is a simple way to host a repository, doesn't need to use server keys etc etc. You just put the .deb files ina specific dir and then it figures out all the md5 stuff etc etc
[18:21] <NlinuxUsr> ok
[18:22] <NlinuxUsr> i want to learn lazarus because mybe next year i will study delphi in colage
[18:22] <NlinuxUsr> as you know i don't like windows
[18:22] <genii> Hm. It looks like seveas stopped updating it after Hardy :(
[18:23] <NlinuxUsr> no pb
[18:24] <NlinuxUsr> after i will imigrate to C++ with QT or GTK+
[18:24] <genii> NlinuxUsr: There seems a very good article on how to set up and use Lazarus at this site: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/How_to_setup_a_FPC_and_Lazarus_Ubuntu_repository
[18:25] <NlinuxUsr> thx
[18:26] <NlinuxUsr> this is an article how to install it
[18:27] <noren_> hi all
[18:27] <noren_> need help in setting up kubuntu keyboard bindings
[18:28] <noren_> !binding
[18:28] <noren_> !keyboard
[18:38] <ubuntu> I already partitioned my hd as ext3 and was wondering do I have to check 'format' in the manual installation phase?
[18:54] <bhabalinux> my kde mix does not work
[18:58] <gjulian> bhabalinux: do you mean kmix? there is any error message?
[18:59] <bhabalinux> sorry I got it
[18:59] <bhabalinux> I wanted to record sound with audacity
[19:00] <bhabalinux> I can't get stereo mix
[19:00] <bhabalinux> there is no option for stereo mix in kmix
[19:01] <bhabalinux> is there any way I can get stereo mix in input source ?
[19:02] <gjulian> bhabalinux: Don't know, try in #kde
[19:03] <bhabalinux> ok
[19:04] <bhabalinux> thanks anyway
[19:27] <saeed> i has problem with dsl connection
[19:28] <saeed> it has disable
[19:28] <saeed> if possible help me
[19:30] <genii> saeed: Please show us the results of command: ifconfig                     ...use the !pastebin
[19:30] <genii> !pastebin
[19:30] <genii> ifconfig      is a command you enter into Konsole application
[19:31] <bond> gparted for gnome, ... for kde?
[19:31] <ErreurDeSegmenta> bond: qparted
[19:31] <bond> thx
[19:31] <bond> bb
[19:32] <genii> !info qparted jaunty
[19:32] <genii> Hm
[19:34] <pumba> qtparted
[19:34] <pumba> ?
[19:34] <pumba> !info qtparted jaunty
[19:34] <pumba> doesn't make it better ;) was worth trying anyway
[19:34] <ErreurDeSegmenta> oh, you are right ubottu, I  am reading an article about it
[19:34] <ErreurDeSegmenta> I didn't know it
[19:50] <Riobe> Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having installing the Java Runtime Environment? I'm new to Linux/kubuntu so it might be newbie. When I run the following command: "rpm -iv jre-6u15-linux-i586.rpm" (No quotes) I get a failed dependencies error.
[19:50] <bazhang> Riobe, you dont use rpm in Kubuntu
[19:50] <bazhang> !java | Riobe
[19:51] <Riobe> Ah, I didn't know that.
[19:52] <Riobe> I'm looking for both a compiler and the runtime. Never heard of the !Multiverse repository.
[19:52] <Riobe> And is there a special meaning to the ! before a term?
[19:52] <Riobe> Apologies for any newbyness. ^^
[19:52] <bazhang> Riobe, that is a factoid, the bot then gives out the info related to that command; best to try with /msg ubottu !factoid
[19:53] <gjulian> Riobe: Go to KPackageKit -> Configuration -> Edit Software sources and then enable the multiverse repository
[19:53] <gjulian> then search for jre, and install the lastes sun java environment
[19:54] <Riobe> Thank you all very much. I'll see what I can't figure out with that new informatoin. ^^
[19:54] <Riobe> Should be enough.
[19:54] <bazhang> Riobe, as far as the compiler, you mean  sun-java5-jdk ?
[19:54] <Riobe> *nods*
[19:54] <senorpedro> hola
[19:55] <Riobe> Whatever the latest version is.
[19:55] <Riobe> I'm new to Java. C++ is what I normally play around in.
[19:55] <Riobe> ^^
[19:55] <senorpedro> how can i make konqueror my default file manager instead of delphin?
[19:55] <bazhang> Riobe, if you prefer, you can open the console and type sudo apt-get install packagename followed by your sudo password
[19:55] <bazhang> err Konsole
[19:56] <Riobe> So I'm guessing if you know the package name Konsole might be easier, and otherwise KPackageKit.
[19:56] <Riobe> What is the difference between KPackageKit and Synaptic Package Manager?
[19:56] <kkern> hi there
[19:56] <Riobe> Hello.
[19:57] <bazhang> Riobe, you can also do an apt-cache search term and find the name ; synaptic is for gnome but can be installed on Kubuntu
[19:57] <Riobe> Ah, they were both on my installation. Didn't realize what the difference was. Thanks.
[19:57] <bazhang> You're welcome :)
[19:57] <kkern> I want to install the latest kernel updates (Kubuntu 9.04), but they are blocked
[19:57] <Riobe> Seems like almost everything has a twin between GTK and Qt.
[19:58] <kkern> how can I unblock these updates?
[19:59] <teiwaz> hi
[19:59] <bazhang> kkern, is the term 'held back' or 'blocked'
[19:59] <Riobe> I'm on kubuntu 9.04 as well, and the term is "blocked"
[19:59] <teiwaz> никто не поможет установить intelliji idea?
[19:59] <kkern> it's blocked (I use the German localization)#
[19:59] <bazhang> teiwaz, #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[20:01] <Planetary> where and who could i suggest to have driver 185 instead of 180 in the hardware installer. i want driver 185 and its a pain to do it manually, plus it should e updated
[20:03] <teiwaz> sorry, i cant install intelliji idea. can someone help?
[20:03] <kkern> ok, I did the apt-get dist-upgrade, and he is running
[20:04] <bazhang> teiwaz, what is intelliji idea
[20:04] <teiwaz> java dev
[20:05] <bazhang> teiwaz, got a link?
[20:05] <Riobe> Hmm...Is there a way to to make Quassel open a link in Firefox instead of Konquerer?
[20:06] <teiwaz> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html?top
[20:06] <gjulian> Riobe: System Settings -> Preferred applications (or something like that) -> Web browser, and select firefox
[20:07] <bazhang> teiwaz, the instructions are right on the page
[20:07] <Riobe> gjulian: Worked like a charm, Thanks!
[20:08] <teiwaz> i see... but i do it all and havnt any result
[20:08] <bazhang> teiwaz, do you have the proper version of java installed?
[20:09] <teiwaz> i think yes
[20:12] <teiwaz> bazhang, what can be a ploblem?
[20:12] <teiwaz> bazhang, yeah, i know, in my brain is all problem. but i really need it..
[20:14] <bazhang> teiwaz, you have proper version of jdk? you ran the instructions on the site? not familiar with that, so a quick look at ubuntuforums might help you  something like ubuntu jaunty intelliji idea as search terms
[20:18] <Riobe> >.< Konsole is kicking my butt.  The JRE contract is up right now, which makes it look like a DOS window. I can scroll up and down on it,and see "<Ok>" at the bottom, but I can't click on it/press enter to get through it. Is there some other functionality that I could use to accept? All I can do is press Esc, in which case it goes back to Konsole and immediately reopens the contract.
[20:18] <bazhang> Riobe, tab and enter
[20:18] <Riobe> Oh man...the one button I didn't press. Thank you again bazhang!!!
[20:19] <bazhang> :)
[20:19] <Riobe> Slowly getting acquainted with kubuntu/KDE. It's pretty nice once you understand how to work whatever particular feature.
[20:20] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ Riobe pretty nice guide here free legal pdf (and Kubuntu and Ubuntu are close under the hood so alot is useful)
[20:25] <tdik> hi all!
[20:25] <tdik> I've got a stupid problem - skype has no sound, event if it does not say something is wrong
[20:26] <tdik> the same settings sometimes work, some times don't (starting skype or the system)
[20:26] <gjulian> tdik: have you installed alsa-oss?
[20:28] <tdik> gjulian: I'll try reinstalling it
[20:38] <nico___> hallo
[21:01] <ubuntu> All hi
[21:03] <emily_> hello
[21:06] <bujji> hi
[21:06] <bujji> i m facing a problem with my laptop
[21:07] <bujji> when i am connecting sony lcd projector its is not detecting can anyone help it out
[21:34] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[21:34] <kaddi> hmm.. I was going to ask a question, but if everybody leaves, noone is going to see it ... :p
[21:35] <kaddi> anyhow: How can I assign an existing activity to a desktop in kde 4.3?
[21:35] <kaddi> I just enabled "one activity per desktop", but instead of matching the two existing activities to the two desktop it created a third virgin activity
[21:36] <tazz> ping Riddell
[21:39] <slow-motion> hi
[21:39] <kaddi> hi :)
[21:44] <Riobe> kaddi: I think if you mouse to the top right of the desktop and click the icon there, then zoom out, you should be able to see both desktops. Are you talking about a widgit? You can drag them from one desktop to another.
[21:45] <kaddi> Riobe: no, I was talking about activities, you can set up a collection of widgets and desktop settings for each different activity
[21:45] <kaddi> this is only available for 4.3 and up as a gui option
[21:46] <Riobe> Ah, I see. I'm new to Linux/kubuntu/KDE so I didn't know if those were the same thing.
[21:46] <Riobe> Do you know how you'd check your KDE version?
[21:46] <Riobe> I just installed kubuntu 9.04 yesterday, so I'd imagine I could use those.
[21:47] <kaddi> you can open any kde program (eg konqueror, dolphin, etc) and check under help ->about kde
[21:47] <kaddi> if you just installed jaunty, you should have kde 4.2.2
[21:47] <Riobe> And you're right on.
[21:47] <kaddi> hehe :)
[21:47] <Riobe> ^^
[21:47] <Riobe> What is jaunty?
[21:48] <kaddi> !jaunty
[21:48] <kaddi> ubuntu 9.04 is also known as jaunty jackalope, or in short jaunty
[21:48] <Riobe> I'm going to need to use that bot more often.
[21:48] <Riobe> Pretty neat tool.
[21:48] <kaddi> it's a great bot :)
[21:48] <Riobe> :P
[21:48] <Riobe> Ah, that makes sense now.
[21:49] <kaddi> if you want to check the possible commands, you can start a private session with ubottu using "/query ubottu" and then type !ubottu ino it :D
[21:49] <Riobe> Quite a lot to learn, switching from Windows to Linux. ^^ It's awesome to have this IRC.
[21:49] <kaddi> yeah, it can help a lot :)
[21:49] <Riobe> Very cool. *tries*
[21:51] <Riobe> Sorry I can't be more help with the activity question. I'm guessing not many users have KDE 3+?
[21:51] <Riobe> 4.3*
[21:51] <Riobe> >.>
[21:53] <genii> Riobe: The Hardy Heron version of Kubuntu from April 2008 (8.04) was the last version which shipped with KDE3
[21:53] <kaddi> hehe, yeah, I figured it out, I think, I can simply select the activity I want for each desktop...
[21:53] <Riobe> Very interesting.
[21:54] <kaddi> I don't know if they are going to be kept, the next reboot will tell :p
[21:57] <Riobe> Best of luck. ^^
[22:15] <krubuntu> im having trouble importing a key trying to install mudlet from mudlet.org
[22:15] <krubuntu> nm i guess i had to type the name in
[22:16] <krubuntu> my other limited linux experience is in gnome
[22:22] <Quintasan> hmm, I want to somehow  help with ext4 bug in jaunty, how can I get a very,very detailed kernel log?
[22:22] <Walzmyn> Anybody use Kdenlive?
[22:25] <Walzmyn> Ahh. Kdenlive and Kino !work, how can I join two mpegs together?
[22:45] <kaddi> is anyone else noticing a regression in intel compatability with the new 28-15 kernel? My CPU is back to 100% all the time .. I have to kill plasma to be able to switch tabs in FF smoothly :(
[22:45] <goshawk> kaddi: not here
[22:45] <kaddi> must be just my luck then :/
[22:50] <Virus69> Saludos a todos esta salaes es en español (spanish)?
[22:50] <kaddi> no ;)
[22:50] <kaddi> !es
[22:51] <Virus69> tanks my friends!
[23:14] <neptunepink> Help, I can't get sound from flash video
[23:20] <BluesKaj> !flash | neptunepink