[00:10] <seg|ars> I'm trying to figure out the relation between a series and milestone. Are there any docs that provide guidance on general best practices for launchpad release management?
[00:11] <james_w> seg|ars: a series can have several milestones
[00:11] <james_w> so you could have a "1.0" series that is your stable branch, and a "trunk" series that is your development releases
[00:12] <seg|ars> ok
[00:12] <james_w> "1.0.1" would be a milestone on your "1.0" series
[00:12] <james_w> https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases
[00:12] <seg|ars> thanks
[00:13] <seg|ars> that's exactly what I was looking for
[00:13] <lifeless> how does one decline a bug nomination these days?
[00:13] <james_w> lifeless: decline one that is proposed, or reject one that was previously accepted?
[00:14] <lifeless> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/305006
[00:14] <lifeless> the 1.18 nomination
[00:15] <wgrant> lifeless: Click the '(approve)' green link, and then the [Approve] button.
[00:15] <james_w> nope
[00:15] <james_w> it's gone!
[00:16] <james_w> do you see one on that page wgrant?
[00:16] <wgrant> james_w: Of course not; I've no relationship to /bzr.
[00:16] <james_w> just checking, because I don't see one
[00:16] <wgrant> I was deep in this code a couple of days ago, and the permission calculation is somewhat obscure.
[00:16]  * wgrant looks again.
[00:17] <james_w> we are both members of the "Maintainer" of bzr, but we aren't the driver
[00:17] <wgrant> lifeless, james_w: Do you get the buttons for the other series?
[00:17] <james_w> there is no "Release manager" for that series
[00:18] <james_w> no button for 1.18 or 2.0
[00:18] <lifeless> james_w: no buttons
[00:19] <james_w> I see it on Ubuntu still
[00:19] <james_w> so it's a permissions thing rather than a bug with it not being drawn at all I guess
[00:21] <wgrant> Aha.
[00:21] <wgrant> It looks deliberate.
[00:21] <wgrant> Sort of.
[00:22] <wgrant> You need to be a driver of the nomination target. For permission purposes, the drivers of a project series are the owner of the series, drivers of the series, and the drivers of the project.
[00:22] <wgrant> The project drivers are the assigned driver, or the owner if there is no assigned driver.
[00:23] <james_w> the assigned driver is poolie by the look of it
[00:23] <wgrant> Right.
[00:23] <james_w> I'm not sure who owns the series?
[00:23] <wgrant> Which is crackful.
[00:23] <wgrant> Whoever created it, I suspect.
[00:23] <james_w> probably
[00:23] <wgrant> But it's probably a bug that the owner can unconditionally do it.
[00:23] <lifeless> I've mailed the bzr list
[00:24] <lifeless> wgrant: I don't think thats a bug
[00:24] <james_w> I think it's a bug that Rob is unable to do something with the bzr project :-)
[00:24] <lifeless> owning something should mean something
[00:24] <james_w> but that's perhaps just a structure thing
[00:24] <wgrant> Hm.
[00:24] <wgrant> Actually.
[00:24] <wgrant> lifeless, you're an ~admin, aren't you?
[00:24] <lifeless> not any more
[00:24] <wgrant> Ahhh.
[00:25] <lifeless> I was, but one day there was no duck.
[00:25] <lifeless> And as its not part of my job description I haven't made any effort to get it back.
[00:26] <wgrant> I just thought something was rather broken when I realised you should have launchpad.Driver privileges anyway.
[00:28]  * wgrant vanishes.
[05:35] <poolie> how do i change the driver of an existing project?
[05:39] <josephpiche> poolie: I believe you can only change the driver if you are the project maintainer
[05:40] <poolie> i am the project maintainer :)
[05:40] <poolie> the confusing thing is that the other people have edit icons next to them on the project profile, but not the driver
[05:40] <poolie> but i found it
[05:40] <josephpiche> then go to the +edit-people page of the project
[05:48] <poolie> yep
[05:48] <poolie> thanks
[09:28] <sluimers> Hi, I have PPA issue, the program named ika I'm trying to build depends on corona which I succesfully build in PPA, but it cannot find corona
[09:28] <sluimers> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30830132/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:29] <bigjools> sluimers: I can take a look
[09:31] <bigjools> sluimers: you have not specified the corona package in your build-depends
[09:32] <bigjools> so it's not being installed in the build chroot
[09:32] <wgrant> corona is also packaged in a way that is certainly in enormous breach of policy, and might not work.
[09:33] <bigjools> policy? PPA? :)
[09:33] <wgrant> sluimers: I see you've specified the corona *PPA* in your PPA's build dependencies. But you need to specify the corona *package* as a build-dependency in your package's debian/control file.
[09:33] <wgrant> bigjools: Policy exists for a reason.
[09:33] <bigjools> wgrant: PPA is the wild west of packaging
[09:34] <wgrant> bigjools: But we should still try to police the wild west.
[09:34] <wgrant> Or users will suffer.
[09:34] <bigjools> I disagree with the word "police"
[09:34] <wgrant> Guide, perhaps.
[09:34] <bigjools> it implies some Stasi style
[09:34] <sluimers> Thanks bigjools and wgrant,  I made an error trying to get that in
[09:35] <sluimers> automatically
[09:35] <bigjools> sluimers: you're welcome
[09:42] <alonswartz> Hey guys, I have just created a firefox extension and am contemplating whether to use launchpad for translations. From what I understand, LP only supports gettext (po, pot). I know there are translate-tools (moz2po & po2moz) which would be useful. Has anyone done this before? Is it recommended?
[09:59] <thumper> danilos, jtv, henninge: perhaps one of you could answer alonswartz?
[10:00] <jtv> thumper, alonswartz: sorry for the delay.
[10:01] <jtv> alonswartz: we support XPI import but not export; you could ask asac on #ubuntu-mozillateam how he does this for firefox & xulrunner.
[10:01] <alonswartz> thumper: thanks for the "dump", jtv: no problem
[10:02] <alonswartz> jtv: i'll talk to asax, thanks.
[10:02] <jtv> alonswartz: asac, not asax :)
[10:02] <alonswartz> jtv: typo - thanks
[10:03] <jtv> alonswartz: what I can tell you right now is we have a customized gettext format for this that you can export native-XPI translations to from Launchpad, and he converts those back to XPI on his end.  It's not perfect.
[10:04] <alonswartz> jtv: I've been experimenting with the translate-tools and they seem to work. I'm considering writting  a couple of wrapper scripts to convert dtd to po, upload to LP, and do the opposite when downloading... not sure how that will work, but it seems a little clunky
[10:06] <jtv> alonswartz: yes.  Have you considered importing from bzr?  It's a bit of a pain with the roundtrip of course; you don't want to override any changes.
[10:06] <jtv> And export to bzr as well.  It'll save you a load of manual labour.
[10:07] <alonswartz> i actually use git, which LP added support (haven't tested it yet though)
[10:07] <thumper> the git imports sync up pretty well
[10:09] <alonswartz> thumper: i'll have to give it go...
[10:10] <alonswartz> thumper: are branches supported ?
[10:10] <alonswartz> thumper: nm, i'll read the docs, no point in asking stupid questions
[10:11] <thumper> alonswartz: only the master is imported right now
[10:13] <alonswartz> thanks for the help guys!
[10:14] <thumper> np
[10:38] <lfaraone> If there's a project, say https://edge.launchpad.net/rainbow , that has no activity for 2+ years, can I ursurp its name with a question against LP itself?
[10:47] <lfaraone> and can a package under the three-clause BSD license be hosted on launchpad? (from what I can tell the "simplified bsd" is a two-clause license omitting the final "no endorsement" clause, and the three-clause isn't listed as a supported LP license)
[10:48] <wgrant> lfaraone: There was discussion months ago about that confusion.
[10:48] <wgrant> I believe it covers the 2- and 3-clause versions.
[10:50] <wgrant> Hm. That's interesting.
[10:50] <wgrant> The link does say that the 2-clause variant is named Simplified.
[10:52] <Fauli> Hi
[10:53] <Fauli> Anybody responsible for the translations part available?
[10:53] <bigjools> danilos: ^
[10:54] <bigjools> or henninge
[11:01] <Fauli> bigjools: Thanks
[11:02] <bigjools> or jtv
[11:04] <Fauli> danilos, henninge_, jtv: Translating package descriptions for Gentoo would be a great way to get our users to collaborate.  Yesterday I just translated some strings for programs I use and was just flattened how nice the interface is.  Anyway, our package descriptions are inside a file called metadata.xml for every package/category, surrounded by the tag <description>, which is a language property (lang="de" for example).  Is there a way to import t
[11:05] <wgrant> Fauli: You were cut off after 'Is there a way to import t'
[11:05] <Fauli> danilos, henninge_, jtv: Is there a way to import the data into Launchpad Translations?
[11:08] <sluimers> Hello, I've got another PPA compiling problem -> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2_gl-2.8
[11:08] <sluimers> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30847804/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.ika_0.62~7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:08] <sluimers> I put libwxgtk2.8-dev in the build-depedencies
[11:08] <bigjools> sluimers: it will be because you're missing build-depends
[11:08] <bigjools> the right build depends
[11:08] <sluimers> Which one am I missing then?
[11:08] <bigjools> you have to work that out
[11:09] <bigjools> but you're asking in the wrong channel really
[11:09] <sluimers> What would be the right channel then?
[11:09] <wgrant> As I suggested a couple of days back, #ubuntu-motu is a much much better place for this sort of question.
[11:09] <sluimers> okay
[11:10] <sluimers> thanks guys
[11:10] <wgrant> You also want to look at pbuilder, which will let you verify that you've got everything, without uploading to your PPA.
[11:10] <sluimers> okay
[11:27] <Fauli> henninge: Now available?
[11:31] <jtv> Fauli: you'd have to convert to gettext.
[11:32] <Fauli> jtv: Any experiences or suggestions on tools?
[11:33] <jtv> Fauli: no, sorry... only a note: LP assumes that the original strings are in English, not e.g. a symbolic identifier.
[11:33] <lfaraone> Hey, cam someone approve https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk ?
[11:34] <lfaraone> wgrant: so you see my confusion. Shouldn't both licenses be listed in the chooser?
[11:34] <jtv> Fauli: So if this is a format that uses keys to identify messages, and then includes a translation to English, you'll have to make sure that the conversion turns the English string into the msgid.  (And the key can become a msgctxt so it's not lost).
[11:35] <danilos> Fauli: you can use intltool or xml2po to do the conversion (both should be available on any reasonably GNOME-equipped system :)
[11:35] <wgrant> lfaraone: Possibly.
[11:36] <danilos> Fauli: for intltool, you might need to change the markup slightly, but might be more suited for the job
[11:36] <wgrant> lfaraone: The relevant people won't be around for a couple of hours.
[11:36] <lfaraone> wgrant: understood.
[11:40] <Fauli> danilos, jtv: Thanks, maybe I can create a workflow.
[11:42] <danilos> Fauli: look at different gnome packages using intltool-extract for this, like GOK and similar
[12:04] <bronger> I get perpetual build failures in my PPA because the documentation of the package is made with DocBook, and the sources try to get the stylesheets directly from the DocBook homepage.  Are the virtual machines on Launchpad not allowed to download via HTTP?
[12:05] <jtv> bronger: they're fairly locked-down, so probably.
[12:05] <wgrant> bronger: They have no Internet access.
[12:05] <jtv> Have to be, for security.
[12:05] <bronger> Okay, thank you!
[14:17] <lfaraone> Would it be a reasonable feature to add "voting" to features and specs, a la ideastorm?
[14:45] <bakkdoor> hi. i'm getting an error, when logging in @ http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ -> "MOD_PYTHON ERROR [...]"  --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/259838/
[14:47] <maxb> bakkdoor: REVU is not a Launchpad system, #ubuntu-motu is more likely to have the people you need for that
[14:49] <RainCT> maxb: I've sent him here. The problem is that Launchpad isn't including the "nickname" in the OpenID answer
[14:49] <maxb> that's a bit special :-/
[14:49] <bakkdoor> maxb: I was asking there, but they redirected me to here. i was logging in via openid from launchpad
[14:50] <bakkdoor> maxb: thats where the error occured
[15:11] <lfaraone> Is it planned to add commenting to specs to replace whiteboards, as that'd make it easier for us to get feedback on our features.
[15:11] <lfaraone> *?
[15:22] <bakkdoor> does anyone have an idea, what is causing the login error?
[15:26] <intellectronica> lfaraone: yes indeed. you have andrea-bs to thank for that :)
[15:26] <lfaraone> intellectronica: ?
[15:26] <lfaraone> intellectronica:  aha. is there a blueprint on that? :P
[15:27] <intellectronica> lfaraone: no, but i think there's a bug somewhere
[15:27] <lfaraone> found it.
[15:27] <intellectronica> lfaraone: if you want, you can maybe help andrea-bs with the work. i'm happy to sponsor a branch or two ;)
[15:28] <lfaraone> intellectronica: heh, thanks. I'm completely new to zope, but am familiar with Django and other web frameworks.
[15:28] <beuno> mpt, your last change to bug 386647 made me laugh
[15:29] <mpt> beuno, my high-school science classes got the better of me :-)
[15:29] <intellectronica> lfaraone: you don't really need to know zope in its entirety to be able to do this stuff. if you know django and other python web frameworks, and with a bit of help from me or other developers on #launchpad-dev, you should be able to get stuff going fairly quickly
[15:29] <bigjools> did they teach you pedantry as well? :)
[15:30] <intellectronica> in fact, i doubt that there are many people (other than, perhaps, gary_poster) who really know zope in its entirety
[15:31] <lfaraone> intellectronica: hehe. well, right now I'm on vacation. But once school starts up for me on September 8th, I'll probably have more of a chance to work on it.
[15:31] <mpt> beuno, actually Empathy has a similar problem -- it has a checkbox for "Reduce location accuracy", which is not really what you want, you really want to reduce the precision.
[15:31]  * lfaraone *should* learn zope anyway.
[15:31] <intellectronica> lfaraone: cool. give us a shout if and when
[15:31] <intellectronica> yeah, it's a religious experience. everyone should learn a bit of zope
[15:31] <lfaraone> mpt: that's a critical bug impacting empathy's comprehensibility.
[15:35] <mpt> lfaraone, yes, so critical I haven't bothered to report it yet
[15:35] <bakkdoor> alright, login worked now.
[15:49] <lfaraone> hey, do we still need admin approval for superprojects?
[15:52] <lfaraone> ... and can superprojects themselves have superprojects?
[15:56] <intellectronica> lfaraone: yes and no
[15:57] <lfaraone> Hm. Is *this* planned, or reasonable even?
[15:58] <bac> lfaraone: which question are you asking about?
[16:01] <lfaraone> bac: being able to have a superproject of a superproject.
[16:02] <lfaraone> bac: example: Sugar contains Sucrose and Fructose. Sucrose contains "sugar-base", "hulahop", etc. Fructose contains "sugar-web-activity", and all the other "sugar-*-activity"s.
[16:06] <kiko> lfaraone, it's reasonable and something we want, but not planned in terms of concrete timing
[16:06] <lfaraone> kiko: okay.
[16:57] <lfaraone> Hey, my git import failed with a traceback. Is this a bug? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30852208/rainbow-olpc-mstone-trunk-log.txt
[17:32] <bdmurray> Is there a reason Feisty source packages are Obsolete but Gutsy's are Published?
[17:32] <cody-somerville> feisty is no longer in the archive I think
[17:33] <bdmurray> Right I'd think gutsy wouldn't be either
[17:48] <fta> too bad i can't use a ppa as a try-server. would be nice to bisect a regression
[17:58] <bigjools> bdmurray: nobody removed it yet, that's all, it's a manual thing
[18:00] <bdmurray> bigjools: that seems to make the published status less useful for filtering
[18:01] <bigjools> bdmurray: you need to use the distroseries status for that, the published status isn't meant for that
[18:12] <mrevell> See you tomorrow guys.
[19:10] <kamalnandan> Is it possible to de-register my Open PGP fingerprint from Ubuntu and Launchpad..?
[19:13] <cprov> kamalnandan: your gpg key is only registered in Launchpad, I don't know exactly what you mean about the 'Ubuntu' aspect.
[19:13] <cprov> kamalnandan: and, sure, you can deactivate it in LP.
[19:14] <kamalnandan> cprov: thanks for reply..
[19:14] <cprov> kamalnandan: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys
[19:15] <kamalnandan> but i registered/published my keys using this command..
[19:15] <kamalnandan> gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 12345678
[19:15] <kamalnandan> so, i want to unpublish that as well..
[19:15] <MTeck> kamalnandan: you can't
[19:16] <MTeck> if it's removed from ubuntu servers it will be brought back from other servers during a sync
[19:16] <kamalnandan> infact..i want to publish new keys..because the keys that i had generated on my machine is not available on my machine anymore..
[19:17] <MTeck> Then just forget about the old key and make a new one
[19:17] <kamalnandan> Mteck: so in that case, i will have to use new email id..isnt it..?
[19:18] <cprov> kamalnandan: in this case you can't even revoke it. No worries, deactivate them in LP, make a new one and register it in LP.
[19:19] <kamalnandan> cprov: but then I will have to use another email id..isnt it?
[19:19] <martin1980> i'm not sure I'm in the right place but it's a lots of "Time Out" errors on Launchpad. Tried to submit bug reports.
[19:19] <MTeck> kamalnandan: nope - just a new key for the same email
[19:20] <cprov> kamalnandan: I don't think it's mandatory, you *can* use the same email
[19:20] <kamalnandan> ok..so will i be able to publish that with keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[19:20] <cprov> some people might be confused by seeing 2 valid keys for the same UID, but there is nothing you can do about it if you've lost the old key.
[19:21] <cprov> kamalnandan: yes, same procedure you used before.
[19:22] <MTeck> cprov: I do with there was an easy way to get rid of them :(
[19:22] <kamalnandan> cprov: ok..let me try doing that once again..but BTW..why would my keys have vanished from my machine on its own..?
[19:22] <MTeck> curse gpg server syncronization
[19:24] <cprov> MTeck: it's a complex problem, I have no idea what we (people using gpg) should do regarding lost keys.
[19:25] <kamalnandan> and is there a command to generate the keys (apart from going via the GUI Applications->Accessories->PAssword and Encryption keys)?
[19:26] <kamalnandan> cprov, Mteck: any clue about my other questions..?...:-)
[19:31] <MTeck> cprov: I talked to an jpds about it once and he basically said that he could remove it from canonical servers but it would come back from sync with other servers. I think there should be an option to mark gpg keys to be removed from trusted servers....
[19:32] <MTeck> kamalnandan: what was the other one?
[19:32] <LarstiQ> MTeck: that is not how the keyserver infrastructure works
[19:33] <LarstiQ> MTeck: anyone can reupload your key. Who do you trust to state that a certain key may not be synced/uploaded anymore?
[19:33] <cprov> MTeck: I don't think removing keys is a good thing to do, they could somehow be marked as 'lost'
[19:33] <MTeck> that idea sounds pretty good too
[19:34] <LarstiQ> cprov: same trust problem, unless you have a revocation certificate
[19:34] <kamalnandan> the other question: I created the keys on my machine and then upoaded on Ubuntu keyserver and then registered the fingerprint with launchpad. But I dont see those keys on my machine anymore when i started the machine the next day....why would my keys have vanished from my machine on its own..?
[19:34] <cprov> LarstiQ: yes, I realize
[19:36] <LarstiQ> MTeck: so, generating a revocation certificate upfront (which is wise anyway) would be the way to go about this imo
[19:36] <LarstiQ> MTeck: the need/advise to do so may need to be stressed more
[19:37] <MTeck> LarstiQ: and the need for it to be separated from the system
[19:37] <LarstiQ> MTeck: what do you mean?
[19:38] <kamalnandan> I agree..there is a need to separate the keys from a particular system...who knows better than me about this problem..:-)
[19:39] <LarstiQ> you mean your computer where you store the private key? yes, certainly
[19:39]  * LarstiQ considers it part of the procedure to print several copies and keep them somewhere safe
[19:39] <MTeck> in case of data loss, you lose the revocation cert. I had one made for each of a few keys (before I knew one key could cover them all). Lost the keys and the certs
[19:39] <LarstiQ> but then again, I might be less of a casual user
[19:40] <LarstiQ> MTeck: I see
[19:41] <kamalnandan> BTW...why does it take so much time to generate the pgp keys???
[19:41] <kamalnandan> i am just curious to know abt it..
[19:42] <LarstiQ> kamalnandan: gathering entropy usually
[19:44] <kamalnandan> LarstiQ: whats that?
[19:47] <ramvi> I'm getting "bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~studentersamfundet-web/studentersamfundet-web/bookingskjema/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()" on my mac. What can I do?
[19:47] <ramvi> I've created rsa key and uploaded it and run bzr launchpad-login ramvi
[19:47] <LarstiQ> kamalnandan: the public/private key infrastructure relies on you having a secret, we don't want everyone to have the same secret
[19:47] <LarstiQ> kamalnandan: so one is chosen random out of a very large space
[19:48] <LarstiQ> (or well, there are multiple factors involved, but)
[19:48] <LarstiQ> ramvi: have you told bzr about your launcpad login?
[19:48] <ramvi> LarstiQ: I've run bzr launchpad-login ramvi
[19:49] <LarstiQ> ramvi: oh doh, you did mention that, sorry
[19:49] <LarstiQ> ramvi: ok, how did you acquire that branch? It is pointing at http:// which is not writeable
[19:49] <kamalnandan> LarstiQ: ok..thanks for responding to my query..
[19:49] <LarstiQ> ramvi: you want bzr+ssh://, which is expanded to from lp: after you have set the login
[19:50] <ramvi> LarstiQ: bzr checkout lp:~studentersamfundet-web/studentersamfundet-web/bookingskjema
[19:50] <LarstiQ> kamalnandan: not clear enough?
[19:50] <LarstiQ> ramvi: are you part of that team?
[19:50] <ramvi> yes
[19:51] <LarstiQ> ramvi: try bzr unbind; bzr bind lp::~studentersamfundet-web/studentersamfundet-web/bookingskjema ?
[19:51] <ramvi> I'm trying to do a new checkout, after I've put in the launchpad login
[19:51] <MTeck> LarstiQ: it could pull from /dev/mustbetruelyrandom instead? :P
[19:52] <LarstiQ> ramvi: that should work too
[19:52] <LarstiQ> MTeck: it needs a lot of entropy still though
[19:52] <LarstiQ> MTeck: but yeah, if you could guarantee a truely random source, that is nice
[19:53] <MTeck> LarstiQ: I'm pretty random..... 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110
[19:53] <MTeck> offtopic - I'll be quiet
[19:53] <ramvi> LarstiQ: that worked. thanks for your time!
[19:54] <notlistening> Hi I started well at least registed a project about a year ago and wanted to make somes changes, well relaly delete and restart as i have been hostin on google code and just want to mirror on launchpad but i am unsure how to even start administering the project let alone deleting it could someone point me in the right directions please
[19:56] <kamalnandan> LarstiQ..thanks a lot..i am logging off now..i need to getup early in the morning..
[19:56] <kamalnandan> good night..
[20:02] <lfaraone> gmb, hey, I'm experiencing bug 412032 on Ubuntu 9.04 with Firefox 3.5 as well. Screenshot:http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7344/screenshot1diw.png
[20:02] <lfaraone> Can somebody else confirm that for me?
[20:02] <lfaraone> (that it's happening on Ubuntu 3.5)
[20:05] <lfaraone> notlistening: do you have access to your LP account?
[20:05] <lfaraone> notlistening: if so, file a question agaisnt LP asking for the project to be deleted. http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad )
[20:07] <notlistening> thanks i will do that now lfaraone
[20:10] <thekorn> leonardr, hi, what is the status/what are the plans for this trusted-client branch for launchpadlib?
[20:10] <leonardr> thekorn: it's become a low priority for me, because i am now working on simplifying lazr.restful so other people can use it
[20:13] <thekorn> leonardr, ok, so we cannot expect anything like this in the near future; no problem, I will go on with a more hackish solution ;)
[20:13] <leonardr> all right
[20:49] <MTeck> What's up with the messed up tabs menu?
[20:49] <MTeck> Or is everything moving to the new layout?
[20:53] <intellectronica> MTeck: everything is moving gradually to the new layout, so edge is a bit mixed at the moment. it will all be completed quite soon, though
[20:53] <intellectronica> MTeck: if you can and feel like, you are of course very welcome to jump in and help. converting pages to the new layout is quite easy and usually lots of fun. anyone on #launchpad-dev will be happy to help you get started
[20:54] <MTeck> I'd be happy to if I had time
[20:54] <MTeck> I need to learn CVS this week - that should take up all my time
[20:54] <intellectronica> MTeck: ouch! :)
[20:55] <intellectronica> at least it will help you appreciate how awesome bazaar is ;)
[20:55] <MTeck> CVS = SlittingWrists
[20:55] <MTeck> ya
[20:55] <intellectronica> lol
[20:57] <MTeck> When I get Ubuntu-Drupal finished up and some other big things rolling, I'll be trying to work on LP
[20:57] <MTeck> I'm excited for that time to be available
[21:23] <lfaraone> intellectronica: Hey, my git import failed with a traceback. Is this a bug? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30852208/rainbow-olpc-mstone-trunk-log.txt
[21:28] <intellectronica> lfaraone: could be, but i don't know for sure
[21:28] <lfaraone> intellectronica: okay. it imports fine in git.
[21:28] <intellectronica> thumper: in da house?
[21:29] <thumper> intellectronica: kinda
[21:29] <thumper> intellectronica: although I've not really started yet
[21:29] <thumper> lfaraone: url of the branch?
[21:30] <lfaraone> thumper: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/rainbow-olpc/mstone-trunk
[21:31] <thumper> lfaraone: hmm, not sure
[21:32] <thumper> lfaraone: the main person that understands the guts of this is jelmer on #bzr, but I think he is not around until the end of the week
[21:33] <lfaraone> thumper: okay. should I file a bug, leave it as "new", and subscribe him?
[21:34] <thumper> lfaraone: a bug on bzr-git
[21:34] <thumper> lfaraone: he is the maintainer, so he'll get the bug report
[21:40] <lfaraone> thumper: done, thanks.\
[21:40] <thumper> lfaraone: np
[21:43] <lfaraone> intellectronica, thumper, uh, I'm getting an odd bug in launchpad when I reported that LP bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/419478
[21:44] <intellectronica> lfaraone: what is it?
[21:44] <lfaraone> intellectronica, thumper, even though I reported the bug 5 minutes ago, there's a "  class= changed 4 hours ago:" listed.
[21:44] <lfaraone> intellectronica: "class=" links to https://bugs.launchpad.net/~https://bugs.launchpad.netlfaraone
[21:45] <intellectronica> lfaraone: what? that doesn't make much sense to me
[21:45] <thumper> lfaraone: where?
[21:45] <lfaraone> thumper: on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/419478
[21:45] <thumper> lfaraone: where on the page?  I don't see it
[21:46] <lfaraone> thumper: disable edge and go to normal launchpad.
[21:46] <thumper> ah
[21:47] <lfaraone> screenshot: http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7329/screenshot2c.png
[21:48] <thumper> lfaraone: I don't see that on non-edge either
[21:48] <thumper> lfaraone: try refreshing and see if it goes away for you?
[21:48] <thumper> lfaraone: good screen capture though
[21:49] <lfaraone> thumper: heh, it's a launchpad greasemonkey script. at least I have *some* bug to report :)
[21:50] <thumper> ok
[22:11] <rowinggolfer> I've started a wee project to help get a python app to a deb.
[22:11] <rowinggolfer> https://launchpad.net/pyapptemplate
[22:11] <rowinggolfer> here's a screencast of where i am at with it...
[22:11] <rowinggolfer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jklX-IlXL9Y
[22:31] <lamalex> bzr launchpad translations import from a pot file in bzr?
[22:32] <lamalex> that first bzr should be 'can'
[22:56] <mkanat> Oy, I can't mirror a bzr:// branch? :-)
[22:56] <mkanat> Seems like it'd be more efficient to allow it....
[22:59] <poolie> mkanat: mm why not?
[23:00] <poolie> mirror it to launchpad?
[23:00] <mkanat> poolie: I can't set it as a Remote Branch.
[23:00] <mkanat> poolie: It says there are only certain URL schemes allowed, and bzr: isn't one of them.
[23:00] <poolie> file a bug please? i'm surprised
[23:01] <mkanat> poolie: Okay.
[23:04] <mkanat> poolie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/419524